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Typing With Your Brain

destinyland writes "This article asks, 'Why bother to type a document using a keyboard when you can write it by simply thinking about the letters?' A brain wave study presented at the 2009 annual meeting of the American Epilepsy Society shows that people with electrodes in their brains can 'type' using just their minds. The study involved electrocorticography — a sheet of electrodes laid directly on the surface of the brain after a surgical incision into the skull. ('We were able to consistently predict the desired letters for our patients at or near 100 percent accuracy,' explains one Mayo clinic neurologist.) And besides typing, there's new brain wave applications that can now turn brain waves into music and even Twitter status updates — by thought alone."

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  1. Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but by Jeian · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but I can think of a whole lot of ways where broadcasting what I'm thinking could be highly, ah, embarrassing.

    1. Re:Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but by pixelpusher220 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I really boobies don't know boobies what you are boobies talking about. boobies

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    2. Re:Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but by girlintraining · · Score: 2, Funny

      I really boobies don't know boobies what you are boobies talking about. boobies

      Dude, press pause on the Slayers episode before posting. :P

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    3. Re:Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Funny

      I wouldn't be embarrassed, but the sexual harassment lawsuits would be unrelenting.

      Why? Everytime you think of something sexual in that e-mail to your boss, you'll have to hit backspace. It's a positive feedback system. And I fail to see why this is a problem only for men -- if you knew half the stuff that went through the average woman's brain you'd probably crap a few bricks. Women make up for in detail what men do in quantity in that regard. ^___^ I'm not afraid my boss will find out... I'm worried my mother will.

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    4. Re:Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but by girlintraining · · Score: 2, Funny

      Until you automatically think CTRL+Enter in your mind, then you're screwed!

      Control. Enter. hmmmmmmmmmm.... (smiles sweetly) I think that when I'm around my girlfriend all the time.

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    5. Re:Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but by clone53421 · · Score: 2, Funny

      And I fail to see why this is a problem only for men -- if you knew half the stuff that went through the average woman's brain you'd probably crap a few bricks

      Sure, but the double standard would still ensure that the sexual harassment lawsuits against men would vastly outnumber those against women.

      The typical man who opens a “whoopsie” e-mail from a female coworker would have several paragraphs worth of questionable material to delete before he had even finished reading her e-mail. The typical woman who received a similar e-mail from a male coworker would have the letter to her lawyer halfway completed...

      ;p

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    6. Re:Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but by fyngyrz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Women make up for in detail what men do in quantity in that regard.

      Cite? Where's your data? As far as you go, I'd be perfectly willing to accept that's how you roll, but women in general... the indirect evidence doesn't seem to support this.

      In my experience, men are far more visual than women are. I think one obvious chunk of evidence for this was the pre-Internet era proliferation of men's picture magazines while one or two comparable woman's magazines (e.g. Playgirl) addressed what they thought might be a similar market. Also that the two leading magazines, Playboy and Penthouse, both specialized in visually rich pictures, including the surroundings, environment, etc., while the less successful ones kept it simple, not to say gynecological.

      Another tick in this column is the huge market for makeup, sexy clothes, etc., for women; not so much for men. It would seem that men are looking specifically for visual stimulation on a level that women are not. And that women know it, because they certainly buy this stuff in large enough quantities without demanding comparable "peacock" performance from the male population.

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    7. Re:Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but by clone53421 · · Score: 2, Funny

      See colon, then enter?

      That sounds dirty.

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    8. Re:Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but by gzearfoss · · Score: 3, Informative

      From the article, the rate is up to 8 characters per minute.

    9. Re:Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but by clone53421 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, but the next one will go to 11.

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    10. Re:Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but by Verdatum · · Score: 4, Funny

      Of all the boobie-laden media out there you go with an oldschool anime reference? I commend you.

    11. Re:Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but by Unordained · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Rating Attractiveness: Consensus Among Men, Not Women, Study Finds

      Men's judgments of women's attractiveness were based primarily around physical features and they rated highly those who looked thin and seductive. Most of the men in the study also rated photographs of women who looked confident as more attractive.

      As a group, the women rating men showed some preference for thin, muscular subjects, but disagreed on how attractive many men in the study were. Some women gave high attractiveness ratings to the men other women said were not attractive at all.

    12. Re:Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but by mcgrew · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And I fail to see why this is a problem only for men

      The media tell us that men are sex-starved pigs and women are little angels. Since the first part is true, they assume the second is as well. Until, of course, you run across a (usually drunk) woman who doesn't care that you know she's a sex-starved pig, too, and that she's no different from the other women she knows.

      There's a double standard here that has stood since antiquity (with the exception of the 1970s) that says that women who like sex are sluts, while men who don't are woosies or in some way definitely wierd.

      That changed in the seventies when abortion was legal, birth control was cheap and effective, and there were no incurable deadly STDs. The word "slut" lost all meaning, I'm sure a lot of prostitutes went broke, and a woman would walk up to a strange man in a bar with a casual "wanna fuck?"

      Alas, it ended when AIDS came around and women who like sex are once again considered "sluts". Personally, I like so-called "sluts".

  2. For slashdotters... by hey! · · Score: 2, Funny

    typing *without* your brain might be more convenient.

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  3. oh god by darkitecture · · Score: 4, Insightful

    yes, because what we need is more twitter.

    whenever i hear about groundbreaking advancements in the neurosciences, i for one automatically think about how it can improve my twitter feed.

    sigh.

    1. Re:oh god by girlintraining · · Score: 4, Insightful

      whenever i hear about groundbreaking advancements in the neurosciences, i for one automatically think about how it can improve my twitter feed.

      Well, the internet was a groundbreaking advance in information technology that has allowed both advanced physics research and 4chan posts to exist in the same medium. But that's the case with any technology -- it will be used for both really intelligent, and really stupid, purposes. A car is a wonderful advancement that allows people to get to and from work, and then get drunk and turn livingrooms into garages.

      *shrug*

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  4. Brilliant by MBCook · · Score: 4, Funny

    Amazing. Why there are no(*) downsides at all! This will sweep the world!

    Soon we will all use this, and the keyboard will be dead. Imagine what computers could look like without the needing keyboard. Almost like... tablets of some kind. We'll call them "portable blackboard computers".

    (*) Only known downsides:

    • Slow
    • Needs craniotomy
    • Needs lame wool cap to keep shaved head warm
    • Slow
    • Only handles 36 characters
    • Doesn't zap you for using texting shorthand
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  5. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. by Tekfactory · · Score: 2, Funny

    It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains. The stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.

    And Electrodes in the brain.

    Right...

    It is by will and electrodes in my brain I set my mind in motion.

  6. Because... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can't think 120WPM, but I can sure type it.

    1. Re:Because... by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 2, Funny

      I can't think 120WPM, but I can sure type it.

      Then, at your fastest, you must be typing things that you haven't put any thought into. Thus - your post.

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  7. Very interesting by jocabergs · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm curious as to whether or not this will be able to help patients with locked in disorder. Recently in the news there was an story about a man who had been "locked-in", unable to communicate with others for nearly 20 years. The Science-Based Medicine blog did a big write up of this story (http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=3122) and some of the inherent problems with the way in which they made contact with the patient "facilitated communication". If the accuracy rate is truly as good as claimed this could really be a huge help for individuals who are otherwise unable to communicate with the outside world, a considerably step up from the blink once for yes, twice for no based communication standard. (though if you knew binary code you could be a much more effective blinker)

  8. Thinking about letters? by SpeedyDX · · Score: 4, Informative

    I only speak for myself here, but it seems like thinking about letters is actually harder than typing on a keyboard. I don't really think about what letters I'm pressing when I type, I just think of the words and the vast majority of the time, it's just muscle memory doing its thing. Perhaps for novel words or words that I don't quite remember how to spell, I'll think of the letters individually. Sounds like more trouble than it's worth.

    Further, it's not entirely clear that our cognitive capacities reside solely in our brain. The rest of our body could have a role to play in cognition. It could be the case that when we're typing, a big part of our typing cognitive process actually depends on our body executing typing actions. For more info, see Embodied Embedded Cognition, Enactivism, and other related philosophy of mind or AI theories.

    1. Re:Thinking about letters? by Aladrin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      On the other hand, the first time you tried to type was a lot of work, too. There's nothing saying that there isn't a way to get good at typing like this... Nobody has even tried yet.

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    2. Re:Thinking about letters? by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That's a good point that I think a lot of people miss when it comes to new interfacing technology. Sure, it takes some getting used to, and at first, it's probably going to suck and you are going to want to go back to the old, 'better' way of doing things. However, given consistent use and a bit of patience our minds and bodies are remarkable at learning new interfaces. Think about the the first time you drove a stick shift. You probably popped the clutch a few times and squealed some tires and killed the engine once or twice. However, after a month or two getting a feel for the clutch everyday while driving, you begin to master the motions and, eventually, working the clutch becomes an art form in and of itself.

      This is one of the underlying principles of Kung-Fu. Through disciplined, consistent repetition, our bodies develop habits all of our own. Martial arts mastery comes when your body has ritualized so many action-reaction combinations that you can start combining them in new, more inventive, more powerful ways. The same thing goes for an editor like vi. Eventually, you master enough key strokes that you don't even need a mouse anymore. The same thing happened with typing when the keyboard first came about and, now, it is happening again with mobile platform keyboards (I can text with two thumbs as fast as I could type with two hands three years ago).

      My bet would be that, as these neuroscience interfaces develop with the future, our 'mental-fu' will start to develop just like the Kung-Fu we practice to learn any number of physical interfaces and actions. Before you know it, we may be living in a world where our very wills could be pitted against one another in mental show downs. I, for one, welcome the idea of interfaces that force humanity to start mastering and disciplining its own mental habits on a wide-scale.

  9. Re:I think it would be too slow by clone53421 · · Score: 2, Funny

    if I had to think of each letter, I would probably forget what I was thinking in the first place

    You could write it down so you won’t forget it...

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  10. Yeah... by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is there such a thing as a sticky key when you are thinking about it?
    Youuuuuuuuu do know what I am talking abouuuuuuuuuuut, right?

  11. Re:This is good? by John+Hasler · · Score: 4, Funny

    > I already thought Twitter required more filtering between brain and
    > keyboard, but now this?

    It's Twitter. No need to involve the brain at all.

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  12. Dasher by orgelspieler · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wonder why they didn't try something like Dasher. This uses simple two-axis control to choose letters as they fly by. I would think this kind of method would be better than having to train for each individual letter.