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VLC Team Announces Video Editor In the Works

eldavojohn writes "Despite news that VLC might not have anyone to work on the Mac release, Lifehacker brings word of a video editor that the VLC team is working on dubbed VideoLAN Media Creator. It hasn't been released yet (git clone git://github.com/VLMC/vlmc.git) but a pre-release is due out soon."

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  1. Great! by hairyfeet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can't go wrong with VLC, runs on every OS, opens even the PITA formats. Can't wait! Go VLC Team!

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    1. Re:Great! by clone53421 · · Score: 4, Informative

      VLC is great when it comes to playing media. I really can’t find fault with it on that front.

      When it comes to encoding media... well, it’s good enough... usually... if you don’t mind playing with it a bit. (Admittedly it does seem better than it used to be. I used to find that more often than not the encoder would crash with some odd error in the message log.) It doesn’t seem to always create portable files – I’ve had output files that only played in VLC, or wouldn’t seek properly, etc. It can’t simultaneously capture the screen and the stereo mix (I have a .js that launches two copies – one to capture the screen, one to capture the stereo mix – and must recombine the separate video/audio tracks in an external video editing suite). Minor details like that...

      I’m going to approach this with a considerable amount of skepticism until I find out how well this video editing feature works, unfortunately.

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    2. Re:Great! by mweather · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can still run the Linux version on OSX.

  2. Sounds exciting by Ironchew · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If it has the same quality and compatibility as VLC Media Player, then it would be a welcome beacon here in Penguin Land.

    1. Re:Sounds exciting by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 2, Informative

      To be fair, while I have tried every video editor that runs on Linux and found every single one lacking, it isn't entirely their fault. They can't import, or see the camera at all, and I assume that's a problem in the system, not the application.

      Well, something is screwed up somewhere, because "seeing" and controlling a DV camera over a Firewire connection is a pretty trivial and well-understood affair.

      Indeed, it is simple. But allowing user level program access to firewire is actually a significant security risk, so most distros restrict access to /dev/raw1394, /dev/dv1394, /dev/video1394, or whatever the local device names are. This is probably the issue that GP is encountering. I make a shell script with the requisite "sudo chmod a+rwx /dev/dv1394" type commands to be run before invoking the program which is to control the dv camera and grab the video. These privileges should be revoked afterwards (and will be revoked on the next system boot, anyway).

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    2. Re:Sounds exciting by kbielefe · · Score: 2, Informative

      Definitely a driver problem. Kino especially is pretty good at importing from a DV camera. You'd have to fix it for VLC too. Try
      # modprobe raw1394
      # modprobe ohci1394
      # modprobe video1394

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    3. Re:Sounds exciting by V!NCENT · · Score: 2, Informative

      A beacon? Never heared of Kdenlive (http://www.kdenlive.org/) ?

      The 'Penguin Land' already has a Sony Vegas killer. It's the AmaroK of video editing. It's Qt4.x and because of that cross platform.

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  3. Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've been waiting for this for a long time. I find it frustrating that I can play basically any video format at any resolution, while not being able to transcode. My computer obviously understands the video files, so why can't I take an .mpeg file and easily save it to quicktime format? All the open source video editing/transcoding tools are trash right now. A VLC video editor is going to be really awesome.

    1. Re:Finally by clone53421 · · Score: 4, Informative

      VLC is already able to transcode media.

      That said, I haven’t been overly impressed with its performance. Strange crashes, glitchy files, etc.

      For instance, when transcoding a .flv, the first keyframe is always dropped – resulting in only a smear of black/gray for the first second or two of the output file.

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    2. Re:Finally by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That said, I haven't been overly impressed with its performance. Strange crashes, glitchy files, etc.

      Yup, it uses more CPU than it needs to, but at least it provides the support for various video formats that my files are in. Some of these issues are to blame on ffmpeg and others are purely on VLC. What would really be nice is if someone could implement some codecs using blocks, even if it is at this point purely to find out if this a) makes a notable difference in performance and b) provides code that is still cross-platform.

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  4. Avisynth by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hopefully it wraps Avisynth -- it's got some incredible community-made scripts and plugins that are unmatched by anything else, but isn't newbie-friendly when it comes to what most people think of as "video editing".

    1. Re:Avisynth by MobyDisk · · Score: 3, Informative

      No way. Avisynth is a Windows-only product that is tied to Microsoft's APIs. VLC is a cross-platform application.

    2. Re:Avisynth by ZERO1ZERO · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Anything equivelant in Penguin Land? Avisynth is extremely powerful.

  5. oh no! by clone53421 · · Score: 3, Funny

    It hasn't been released yet (git clone git://github.com/VLMC/vlmc.git)

    They’re out to get me!

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  6. Yeah yeah! Oh, yeah! by ichthus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Could this mean we finally get a decent video editor in Linux? Apologies to the Cinelerra, Kino, etc. people, but (and I really hate to say this) many of the simplest and cheapest Windows offerings put these projects to shame.

    I know it makes me seem like a total douche to put down projects that many people put a lot of time and effort into, but come on! The sound editor front is even worse! Audacity is today what Cool Edit was in 1998.

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  7. Can it Edit MKV files etc.... by jameskojiro · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would like something that can open anything and then edit it.

    It would be nice to have a good video editor, One that was free back in the day was DDClip it worked pretty good back in 00' . Anythign is better than the abortion that is Windows Movie Maker....

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  8. Vegas by soundguy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm hoping it take after Vegas, which leaves all other editors in the dust (even Avid) when it comes to ease of use. I especially like being able to drag the end of one clip over another on the time line for instant crossfades without having to deal with creating a transition. Fade in/out is a simple matter of dragging the upper corner of the clip one way or the other. Timelines are a series of thumbnails that change in real-time when you expand or contract, cut, stretch etc. (stretch/contract is a simple ctrl+drag). I rarely use more than 8 tracks, but the ability to do 16-32 would be nice, if not unlimited like Vegas.

    Vegas and Photoshop are the only things keeping my workstations running Windows. (XP - not interested in Vista/7)

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  9. Re:Yeah yeah! Oh, yeah! by supersloshy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ever hear of Kdenlive? I use it all the time. Uses FFMPEG, has lots of nice effects, and the most recent release has been very stable for me so far ;)

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  10. What aboout Avidemux? by FromellaSlob · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Avidemux always seemed like a natural partner to VLC to me. Based off the same FFMPEG code, QT or GTK interfaces, straightforward design, and despite the name it can do many file types. It's excellent for simple cut and paste editing, very much a Linux equivalent of Virtualdub. Why do so many free software projects try to reinvent the wheel rather reuse and improve on the code that is out there? I always thought that was the point of free software.

    1. Re:What aboout Avidemux? by jps25 · · Score: 3, Informative

      This has to do with errors in the broadcast you don't notice when watching.

      To fix it you have to first clean the stream.

      1. projectx to clean it. It's a nice little java program. Just start the GUI, open your file and choose quickstart. You can use the CLI as well
      2. mplex -f 8 -o output.mpeg2 input.m2v input.mp2
      3. manipulate output.mpeg2 with avidemux.

      I've recorded hundreds of documentaries and shows (DVB-S mpeg2-ts), never had sync issues after doing this.

  11. Truly an enlightened age... by ewg · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...when news articles contain revision control commands.

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  12. Re:Yeah yeah! Oh, yeah! by adpe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm not OP and I'm love and use linux exclusively, but I have to agree with him. I've used about every video editor there is and (compared to other OSes standards) even kdenlive is a piece of shit. It has most basic features, and even some advanced ones, but at least on my three machines, its crashing left and right.

    I personally think it's because of the sad state that linux multimedia subsystems are in (oss/alsa/pulseaudio/whatever kde comes with up next), but whatever it is, linux video editing is nowhere near windows or mac counterparts.

  13. What is wrong with people by RedK · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Despite news that VLC might not have anyone to work on the Mac release

    You mean despite the news that was clarified and proven false by the VLC project the day after everyone in the blogsphere and on tech forums went nuts : http://www.osnews.com/story/22629/VLC_for_Mac_Death_Greatly_Exaggerated_

    Why repeat it if it never was true ? It didn't need to be part of the summary at all for that matter, the true story here has nothing at all to do with the Mac port.

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  14. Re:AVCHD Please by Wescotte · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's not just a linux problem. AVCHD is a piss poor format to edit with and is slow in most NLEs unless you have a monster machine. Anything that isn't an iframe codec is just bad for editing with.

  15. Re:Yeah yeah! Oh, yeah! by roju · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Kdenlive was unusable for me in Ubuntu (Hardy and Intrepid). It crashed within a minute, every time.

  16. Re:Yeah yeah! Oh, yeah! by DittoBox · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you want a multi-track recording suite, check out Ardour.

    http://ardour.org/

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  17. KDEnlive works for us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ive been using KDEnlive for the past few months and it does the job for us.
    We basically want to take a few pictures and videos from our digital camera, join them with a few transition effects and put our fave mp3 in the background.
    It does the job the way Windows Moviemaker does the job, its not a 25,000$ program but for the youtube generation's needs, its fine.

    Ive tried all the different Linux programs and both my 8yr old and nieces prefer KDEnlive, so its the one we use.

  18. No need for it by alienunknown · · Score: 2, Informative

    VLC for Mac death is "greatly exaggerated" / What is Lunettes?

    VLC for Mac is being maintained. However the old Cocoa graphical interface of VLC, is not being maintained at this time.

    The reason is that we are in the process of rewriting a new interface for VLC. Its codename is Lunettes.

    Why a rewrite? This is something really easy to see. VLC for Mac is just not "Mac" enough.

    Taken from here.

  19. Re:Yeah yeah! Oh, yeah! by thomst · · Score: 3, Informative
    Ichthus commented:

    "I know it makes me seem like a total douche to put down projects that many people put a lot of time and effort into, but come on! The sound editor front is even worse! Audacity is today what Cool Edit was in 1998."

    Actually, it's not even as capable as Cool Edit was more than a decade ago. Specifically, Audacity does not support MIDI, whereas, AIR, Cool Edit Pro did. And that's the main reason why Audacity is utterly worthless for music production: because it can't sync to MIDI. So, no drum machine, or outboard sequencer loops.

    That's why, when the Linux fanboys point their lofty sneers at lowly Windoze, I just shrug. My old Windows 98SE box allows me to sync my drum droid to Cakewalk 9 to lay down kick, hi-hat, and ride tracks. So I use that, instead of a Linux box, because it actually works. And, in turn, I use Windows 98, because the audio interface hardware I use (the original 16-bit Layla by Echo Audio) doesn't have drivers that work with XP SP3. (Nor, I should point out, does it have Linux drivers.) Since I can't afford new hardware, I use a Windows box that allows me to do stuff like this, which Audacity would not.

    And it's sad that that's the case, because I would like to be able to use Audacity on Linux, rather than Cakewalk on Windows.

    But I can't.

    So I don't.

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