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Google Nexus Rumored To Cost $530 Or $180 w/Plan

wkurzius writes "The new Google phone, the Nexus One, is rumored to cost $530 unlocked and will work on any GSM network. A subsidized version is also available for $180 and will get you a T-Mobile Even More Individual 500 Plan for 2-years with a $350 termination fee. Access to the phone is supposed to be invite only at first, with January 5th being the supposed release date."

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  1. Invite only? by MBGMorden · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously? Since when the hell is the ability to buy a phone "invite only"? I swear the social aspect of phone ownership is getting ridiculous.

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    1. Re:Invite only? by CyberLord+Seven · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Consider yourself fortunate that you are not on the invite list. Remember the dorks who bought the iPhone when it first came out? Remember those same dorks just a few months later when Apple dropped the price? :)

      I suspect this invite only thing is just to drum up interest in the phone. Soon, everyone and his brother will be able to buy one just like Gmail.

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    2. Re:Invite only? by alecto · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Just a marketing gimmick to make people feel elite. Invites will be about as scarce as Gmail invites.

    3. Re:Invite only? by xch13fx · · Score: 4, Insightful

      umm, the razr was a status symbol, as soon as the price dropped and att stopped having exclusivity people began to hate theirs. Blackberrys, and treos then became the phones to have. The iphone is now the phone people want to be seen talking on and I imagine those who like that aspect best are getting tired of seeing other people with iphones. I guess your right that the mere fact that you had a cell in the 90s was a big deal, but now the type of phone you have is indeed a status symbol.

    4. Re:Invite only? by MBGMorden · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You clearly haven't been hanging out with the same people I have. It seems that every person between 14 and 30 is caught up in phones - what theirs can do, what yours can't, and new/shiny. Hell from what I've seen in the last 3 years or so teenage and early 20's girls get as geeky over their phones as geeks do over their computers.

      A friend of my sisters was out with us a while back - overall a pretty superficial girl. Not bright about most things, and works in one of those trendy shops where they sell bath oils and the like. Somebody said something about their phone and my God she took off. Whipping out her phone showing what it could do - and not just "OMG it can do interwebs!" talk. Discussing various input methods, which phones did what better and how, connectivity, the works. It would be what you would expect if some clueless noob said something in passing about the GPL around a Linux geek - just about phones. She has been the most extreme of this I found, but certainly not the only one. The nation as a whole (well, the younger crowd anyways) is in love with the smartphone right now.

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    5. Re:Invite only? by thePsychologist · · Score: 5, Informative

      The _buying_ of the phone is not invite only. That's just the special event to unveil it. It's in the article.

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    6. Re:Invite only? by Red+Flayer · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That's a very interesting point I hadn't considered until now.

      The invite system may be yet another way that Google collects information useful to them in selling advertising, etc... they can identify "power brokers" in tech marketing, which would be valuable information to advertisers (and to their internal marketing).

      Yech.

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  2. So by jimbobborg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Who got invited? Whoopi Goldberg? Or one of the celebs on the T-Mobile Android ads?

    And $530 for an unlocked phone that will last about three years? Really?

    1. Re:So by b0bby · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, it seems T-mobile is doing just that now - "Even More" is their standard subsidized phones + 2 year contract deal, "Even More Plus" is the same plans but no "free" phones or contracts & $10/month less. Maybe the other carriers will follow if T-mobile starts getting people to switch because of this.

      OTOH, if you want T-mobile & a Google phone, it makes more sense to pay the extra $10/month to get the subsidized phone, because the amount of subsidy (($530-$180)/24) is almost $15/month.

    2. Re:So by Undead+Waffle · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Last I heard all of the US carriers were requiring the data plan if you had a smart phone. Any word on whether the "Even More Plus" plan does this? Again, last time I looked into it AT&T would detect the smart phone on their network regardless of whether it was bought separately and add the $30/month data plan to your bill for you. Any carrier that lets me bring my own smart phone without requiring me to pay $30 for an internet connection I'll barely ever use has a good chance of getting my business next time my contract expires.

  3. A little more competition is a good thing by DJRumpy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I can only hope this brings down the cost of these phones. The prices are already greater than the cost of netbooks and bargain laptops/desktops. I realize that miniaturization is a factor, but we really need more strong competitors in this area. I would much prefer a non-subsidized phone except the price is a little daunting all in one lump sum.

    1. Re:A little more competition is a good thing by Seor+Jojoba · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Just buy it with a credit card. And pay the debt off at $20/month or whatever is convenient. You'll be better off in the long run, because we'll get the carriers to start competing as big dumb pipes. The emphasis will be on coverage/speed for the buck, instead of some wacky chase after the latest "It" phone. We should all stop being scared off by upfront costs and letting phone carriers handle our financing through subsidies.

    2. Re:A little more competition is a good thing by DJRumpy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think these smart phones have gone far beyond being an 'It' phone. This isn't some hot item that one quickly loses interest in within a few weeks. I bought my first smart phone (an iPhone) a few years ago. I still use it heavily. Having the internet in your pocket is a huge convenience for all sorts of circumstances. The apps are just icing. I use mine 5 times a week at the gym, I look up prices, I check release dates for movies, music, and media, all while I'm out and about. These have real purpose far beyond just being an accessory to one's clothes.

      They are essentially a mini-pc in your pocket, and I hardly need to extol the benefits of a PC to this crowd ;)

  4. No thanks by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Informative

    Those wanting to buy the handset subsidized will pay $180 and have to sign up for a two year contract. There appears to be only one plan available for these customers, and that is the T-Mobile Even More Individual 500 Plan, which gives you 500 minutes, free weekend and in-network calls and unlimited SMS, MMS and data. That bring the total cost over two years to $2,100.

    The unsubsidized price + a data plan is vastly cheaper

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    1. Re:No thanks by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My whole family gets unlimited messages, data, and 700 minutes with myfaves (two blackberries and a generic nokia) for a little less than twice that.

      Then again they are targeting the young male "I have less sense than money" demographic.

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  5. Subsidy lock? by alecto · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If someone buys the phone with the subsidy then subsequently leaves T-mo and pays the ETF, will T-mo unlock the phone? Also, is the ETF prorated? In any case, it seems that the combination of a cheap phone for voice and a netbook/laptop + WiFi or if ubiquitous access is necessary a data stick are a better deal for the money.

  6. whining about prices by Ritz_Just_Ritz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Like all the other smartphones in recent memory, they cost a fortune if you're an early adopter. If you don't want to get mugged then just wait a couple of months for the hoopla to die down. Your old phone won't stop working in the interim if you don't have the latest whizbang handset the day after its release.

  7. Re:This is just FUD by signingis · · Score: 5, Informative

    "just plain old FUD."

    You keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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  8. Re:Smart move by beeverteeth · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yeah, there will be an SDK... Android SDK :rolleyes:

  9. GSM + Google by ground.zero.612 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sweet! A decrypted protocol with an OS by a company that doesn't care about your privacy... Where do I sign up???

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  10. Re:prices? by Seor+Jojoba · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The funny thing is that T-Mobile offers a pretty decent plan with 3G data for $50/month which would be my first choice. But if you buy the subsidized phone, you get the spendy $80/month plan which doesn't really have good value to warrant the extra cost, IMO. Difference seems to be just more minutes and unlimited SMSs. So I could see buying the unsubsidized phone, and just getting the cheaper T-Mobile data plan separately.

    Also, T-Mobile is one of the major carriers that refused to turn over customer information to US officials without a warrant. And they got KZJ, who is much sexier than the "Can You Hear Me Now" guy.

  11. Nokia N900 by kurt555gs · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can buy an N900 for $569.00. As long as you are going to drop that kind of change, why would you limit yourself to an Android fone?

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  12. Re:CDMA? by caladine · · Score: 4, Informative

    Like another poster says in reply to this, there's a lot you've gotten wrong here. You seem to have your technologies confused.

    • AMPS (the original analog cell) is first gen.
    • Next came GSM, a 2G technology
    • CDMA rolled around first in the IS-95 standard, also 2G.
    • GSM folks upgraded with GPRS (and later EDGE) making 2.5G networks
    • CDMA2000 is a family of 3-3.5G technologies (1x, 1xEVDO/revA/revB)
    • GSM people realized that CDMA > TDMA when they got together to make WCDMA (also called UMTS). From a simple view, UMTS is CDMA, but using a 5 MHz frequency band, rather than the ~1.25 MHz band that CMDA uses. There's more to it, of course.
    • 3.5G networks use UMTS + HSPA/HSPA+. Not that there are really many networks that use anything more than the 3.6Mbps HSPA. (which, incidentally isn't much faster than EVDOrA @ 3.1 Mbps)
    • 4G is LTE and WiMax (sort of).

    The only reason that smartphones make more sense at the moment on GSM/UMTS networks has nothing to do with the technology involved, but the economics. There are a lot more people on GSM/UMTS networks than CDMA, mostly due to the fact that CDMA was a late comer to the cell phone game. My guess is that the CDMA follow-on will come later in the year.

  13. Re:No keyboard = do not want by natehoy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dial? What is this dial of which you speak?

    Oh, you mean "dial" as in "push buttons". How quaint.

    I use a bluetooth headset, and just press the button and read off the numbers I want to call (assuming it's for someone not in my phone book).

    I get three benefits out of this:

    1. Everyone around me sees what an Important Person I am, and thinks, "wow, someone that technologically forward and yet tastelessly rude must be important." Many of the females obviously think "and I must mate with him immediately!" but sadly I live in a prudish area, so they just look at me with longing, pass into a slight faint where their eyes roll back in their head, then glare because they are angry they can't have sex with me right away.

    2. I get to announce to everyone in earshot what number I am trying to call. I just know everyone wants to know that. It's important.

    3. When the phone misunderstands the number I meant to dial, complete strangers have the pleasure of speaking to me, albeit briefly. Most of them understand the value of my time and, once they realize it's me, they remind me that I have important things to do and end the call.

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  14. Re:Very disappointing by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I do not understand. You're complaining that Google doesn't have some magic fairy dust to sprinkle over the phone so that it costs half as much all of a sudden?

    From what I can see, the prices are competitive, and match the established level for smartphones of this caliber. What else do you want?

  15. Re:In what way is an Android phone more limiting? by Microlith · · Score: 3, Insightful

    anything with a dead-end OS

    So a Linux-based device using X that supports both Qt and GTK2 toolkits is somehow a dead-end OS?

    a fully programmable Android device

    If and only if you root the thing. I would be surprised, seeing as how it is (optionally) subsidized by T-Mobile, if the Nexus One did not also require being rooted.

    buy a lot more applications

    All the applications I really need are available under the GPL already, and can be ported to the N900 with far less effort than it would take to port them to the iPhone or Android. Unless you are suggesting that only software you have to pay for is worthwhile.

  16. If apostrophe's were status symbol's ... by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    rich guys still like to flaunt their Porsche's, Maserati's and Aston Martin's

    ... you'd be flaunting your's like there's no tomorrow.