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The FBI's Newest Tool — Google Images
lee317 writes "The FBI recently used a photograph of Spanish politician Gaspar Llamazares as an example of what Osama Bin Laden might look like today. According to Reuters, Special Agent Jason Pack said a forensic artist had been unable to find suitable features from the FBI's database of photographs and used a picture from the Internet instead. That photo turned out to be one of Llamazares, who apparently looks strikingly similar to what the FBI thinks Bin Laden would look like with a few extra years on him. 'I am stupefied the FBI has used my photo — but it could have been anyone's — to compose a picture of a terrorist. It affects my honor, my own image and also the security of all us,' Llamazares said."
We should constantly live in fear of tribal men in caves 8000 miles away at all times. It's the new American way.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaspar_Llamazares
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Come on, the FBI agent simply went to images.google.com and entered "osama bin laden now" and hit "I am feeling lucky". How could he know that he should not have been feeling lucky that day? Blame google, not the agent.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
Yeah right, Osama wearing a turtleneck; Where are his nice white robes?
My question is, what did they search for to get this result? And shouldn't they have checked who it was before they used it?
Taxation is legalized theft, no more, no less.
But, Señor Llamazares is a Commie
Fortunately for him he lives in a society where you can formulate political opinion from a variety of sources and not resort to a childish game of name calling and vague nonsensical grandstanding. In many parts of the world, you can call yourself a communist or a marxist or a socialist and then have a discussion about what that means.
Stateside, I bet many people would consider calling the police. But such is the state of our populace: hysterical cowards and uneducated drones, ready to plead fealty to whatever entity promises them the most convenience and security.
A few years back the FBI created a wanted poster for Philly Mobster Frankie "No lips chin balls" DeCicco from a cropped goatsex image.
Sounds like a fucking great combination with biometric data. How are they coming along with facial recognition?
-Why are we giving this guy a seconds notoriety? He has had a little augmentation done but still plain the see it's him. http://www.losingtouch.co.uk/gallery/d/18122-2/Freak.jpg
"Computers are a lot like Air Conditioners" "They both work great until you start opening Windows"
The FBI's Newest Tool "Is the guy updating Osama Bin Laden's picture!" - There. fixed that for you.
"Computers are a lot like Air Conditioners" "They both work great until you start opening Windows"
You must be American.
Because he's the individual in question.
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First the CIA jails and interrogates people when it is no part of their charter to do so and they have no training at it, producing an unmitigated diplomatic disaster for the USA and no valuable information. Now the FBI assembles "wanted" photos using Google images.
Where does the incompetence in the American security apparatus end?
I piss off bigots.
Does the FBI own the rights to the image they're showing around? Aren't they violating copyright? Can't they be sued for millions in made up damages?
Something must be quite wrong when a forensic artist uses google images to find suitable features.
But it is even more worrying that they used Llamazare's features for another picture!
They took the Spanish PM's eyes and hair again for an image of a _different_ wanted terrorist:
http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2010/01/16/internacional/1263662696.html
http://www.rewardsforjustice.net/index.cfm?page=atiyah_abd&language=english
One wonders about the reliability of such wanted pictures, when it seems they serial produce them, cutting and pasting from the same image...
How long till Gaspar Llamazares ends up on the no fly lst because of this?
You know I've never seen Bin Laden and this Gaspar Llamazares fellow in the same place at the same time. Just saying...
as in, special Olympics?
air travel until Osama bin Laden is caught, identified, confesses, is executed. God knows Llamazares is thinking one day an air marshall is going to put a slug in his chest after finding Osama bin Laden in an airport because of that picture.
And I know all of you are saddened at the fact that his fears are perfectly reasonable.
You would suspect that after thousands of years we would have a better solution then killing and war....
What the fuck! Llamazares shouldn't go ever to the US, the best thing that can happen to him is a shot in the forehead, if airport police has watched for a while this photos, he will really seem to them like a terrorist...
In other news, Ben Affleck apparently died in pakistan
Don't have a good picture of your target?
Don't have enough description to draw a picture of your target?
Don't worry, just use someone else's photo from the internet, it's not like they'll notice...
After all, actually having a picture of the correct target is less important than being able to tell your boss, "um, yeah, we did a forensics pic of the terrorist...".
It's a precipitated generalization.
Have you heard about SoylentNews?
Finally the proof I have been waiting for, Llamas really are EVIL! Sure they may look cute standing there chewing cud, but the FBI is on to their secret plot to hijack airliners and crash them into alpaca farms. Keep up the good work boys!
Monstar L
Ignorance and stupidity aren't exclusive American traits.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
Ben Franklin said any government is fine if it is well administered. He is correct.
All governments fall to despotism eventually as history has shown to be the case; Franklin basically stated this at the end of the constitutional convention.
No, not exact quotes, I can think beyond those; having found them before. If you want it the source quotes go find them like I did (well, I didn't have internet back then...)
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Grandparent is spot on. Americans don't know jack - its like brave new world; we need a term to describe this lack of civic duty.
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It's not the tribal man I fear. It's the crazies who listen to him, strap a suicide belt on and go blow innocents up.
Wow, that is some light grey text. The color of the date between the title and the main text is #999999, or 60% white (with 0% white being black). That text is more white than black, on a white background. The main text of the article isn't as bad, with the color #666666, or 40% white. But still, that is really uncomfortable to read, especially if you have a display with small pixels. The 11px font size and normal font weight doesn't help.
Has anyone else noticed the trend for news sites to make their text whiter and whiter, while maintaining a pure white background? I'm not a web designer, but as a user, this is getting really annoying.
Oh, and strangely enough, the title of the article is actually the same exact color as the main text: #666666.
That guy doesn't represent what bin Laden would look like now. You can tell because:
But, Señor Llamazares is a Commie
Fortunately for him he lives in a society where you can formulate political opinion from a variety of sources and not resort to a childish game of name calling and vague nonsensical grandstanding. In many parts of the world, you can call yourself a communist or a marxist or a socialist and then have a discussion about what that means.
Stateside, I bet many people would consider calling the police. But such is the state of our populace: hysterical cowards and uneducated drones, ready to plead fealty to whatever entity promises them the most convenience and security.
And yet for those who clicked on a Reuters story we didn't see this calling of the police by uneducated drones, and hysterical cowards. Of course we didn't have an intellectual discussion of what it means to be communist, but then the story was basically "we goofed" and an apology.
Sounds like some of you have too many axes to grind.
Shai Schticks:"You don't make peace with friends, you make peace with enemies"
I would argue it is an inherent flaw in humans.
Males are aggressive and their whole purpose biologically is to spread their seed and they have some traits to make sure it goes beyond reproduction which is arguably a little weaker. So the ones who succeed in the pursuit of power likely will spread those traits on at least as well as normal. Anyhow, I think biology encourages the traits that pushes males to hurt the system and in a more obscure way, society.
Women I've not seen or read about behaviors that add to the problem; however, I have seen plenty of promotion for their offspring over others for those who strongly associate their child's success with their own or at least make it extremely important their kids get above the others. In this sense, they are every bit as bad as the men with the same mentality (other than the two act it out differently.)
Many legit religious figures such as nuns who live a communist lifestyle do not procreate- so unfortunately, the trait most desirable they may have is not spread. Perhaps they should... and the rest of us should just adopt their babies. Seriously think about this concept. So--- why is it ok for 100s of years to fool with animals for traits but not with humans? (keep in mind "race" is more about simplistic appearances than actual genetic backing.) Ok... now you thought about that--- what about the stupid people breeding so much? genetically diseased people? should we draw a line?
Ok-- so-- we don't draw a line right? Well, then what about the big elephant in the room: overpopulation is the biggest problem in the world today. Limit reproduction, regulate it-- and we bring up similar issues again or at least the prospect that they influence the decision on who is allowed to reproduce. think about it.
"For my part, I just hope Brad Pitt never does anything to piss off the Department of Homeland Security."
And now you wonder why people hate the USA?
Ignorance and stupidity aren't exclusive American traits.
When it takes the form of McCarthyism, it invariably is.
GAAH! MY PRINTER IS ON FIRE!!! PUT IT OUT! PUT IT OUT!
Is your skin anything but the purist of whites? Do you speak with an accent (from MY frame of reference)? Do you have a beard? Wear funny-looking clothes (again, from MY frame of reference)?
Then congratulations! YOU can be our next international terrorist! But, don't count yourself out just because you look like a white American. If you've ever visited one of the countries on our list and especially if you happened to be photographed while wearing the local fashions (we really like turbans), then you can join in too!
The eternal struggle of good vs. evil begins within one's self.
This makes sharing your name with someone on the no-fly list sound like a lucky break!
If you take a look here, you can compare both photographies. Note that the hair is the same...
I used to have a spot on the 2th page of Google Images' query "los 10 mas buscados de la pgr" (the top ten wanted of the PGR (mexican federal police)), after a quick google, it seems that the photo was removed from the query (it is still on my flickr stream anyway).
It used to be a great conversation topic, something like "oh yeah, and I'm one of the top ten wanted of the PGR" "naw, you're joking" "you don't beleive me? google it yourself" "oh shit, you really are".
DON'T PANIC.
What exactly does that have to do with the question I posed? Communism has been directly responsible for the deaths of 100 million people, yet this communist is worried about individual rights?
Instead of making a comment to defend communism or correct my misunderstanding, you make a snide comment on my nationality. Kinda sad really.
Follow the money.
Weird tax laws, weird drug laws, weird terrorist threats...
The bigger the central government the worse it is. The government that governs the least governs the best.
First of all, I don't think Gaspar has much to worry about. The primary facial features of bin Laden appear to have been pasted over his photo. Other then the hair, they don't loo alike at all.
What does bother me is that; it takes quite a bit more than cut and paste (and throwing some gray into the hair) to properly 'age' a photograph. Changes to the nose, ears, winkles, creases, and bags under the eyes all have to be calculated and incorporated into the new photo. Was that actually done? Or did someone just put this together after taking the You Suck at Photoshop online course?
Have gnu, will travel.
you can call yourself a National-Socialist and then have a discussion about what that means, too. In Germany, where people actually remember very well what this means, the discussion would be with the police.
As a Russian whose family members have been killed and whose country was seriously screwed up by Communists (who were also, of course, Marxists) I wish those societies where grandstanding as a Communist is acceptable would wake up before they get screwed up in their turn.
ready to plead fealty to whatever entity promises them the most convenience and security"
this is true of every society on this planet, and every society that ever existed, and any society that ever will exist. its the trailing end of the bell curve, what can you do? so you don't have to like the usa, but don't single out the usa for the crimes of humanity itself
i'm an american, and i can have an open rational discussion of the benefits/ failures of communism, socialism, capitalism, libertarianism, marxism, authoritarianism, bring it on
oh, there's one more problem with humanity you should know about, that is not unique to the usa: the kind of person who over-generalizes and prejudicially judges an entire race or country, just because of the sins of a few loud few
you wouldn't perchance know an example of such a person's words, would you? ;-)
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Are you aware that you shot down your opening statement by linking to those stories?
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
No, but they are primary ones.
What do monkeys have to do with war, oppression, crime, racism and even e-mail spam? You'll see that all of the random ass-headed cruelty of the world will suddenly make perfect sense once we go Inside the Monkeysphere.
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
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This is nothing. The DOD has a space based submillimeter laser com system at about 850GHz that can lock onto your teeth. It is in fact being used right now in the San Fransisco Bay Area as a demo. Full video, sound, and body control. It can be used for com spy use, "war", and putting voices into your head as words (analog signals.) Who has a bolo meter, you are going to need one? Google directed energy weapons, submillimeter laser, radar.
He claims the news is erased from the MIND, not the internet (archives). He then backs up his claim by linking to past news stories that he says conflict with this one but apparently have been forgotten.
Sadly he does make another mistake, people may assume Bin Laden is death, but they have no evidence so they keep looking until they are 100% sure.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
The free market, how does it stand with the US economy in tatters, the banks going on as if nothing has happened, 10% unemployment, a national debt that can never be paid off.
What is most amazing about your kind is that you never can admit that your system has been failing rather badly as well. Americans are like the british, still proud of their empire, long after it crumbled. Nero playing emperor while Rome burns.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
The embassy's Councilor for Public Affairs William Ostic told Reuters that he telephoned LLamazares Saturday to apologize for the error.
Calling this an error, while clearly occurred on intention, is again a defamation. Calling it an error because he's a politician is not better at all.
Really? Thought it got patented.
Good point. However, if you have abundance in your heart, then there is no need to extend power out in the world for your own personal gain.
Instead power becomes becomes a tool, to further the collective good.
If you have peace in your heart, then there is no need to bring peace out in the world by means of force and violence.
Instead peace becomes a platform for understanding and education.
Spirituality and humanism can pretty much guarantee a peaceful, prosperous and developing world. Just too bad so few people treasure it yet.
We are still like small children, kicking and yelling and throwing tantrums.
Sharing is not communism. In the past we've shared alot more than now. From my neighbours lawnmower (today we buy our own), to sharing carts, land, etc.
Open source is just more economically viable by sharing labour into one project, reduces complexities and cost, and also closer to natural effectiveness (more eyeballs vieweing the source).
It is not communism to share. Communism is a political ideology, usually a failed one, and usually taking over with violence.
You can use two definitions "communism" and "Communism", however, countries like Nepal and India are still having problems with Communism. So we should refrain to support it, because these people are ignorant, and plays on the ignorant to win votes or revolutionaries. Nepal became Communist, and is now having huge problems, while India is almost in a state of civilian war because of Communism.
In my view, Communism and communism is a failed ideology. We should instead turn to spirituality and humanism. Find a new word, don't bring up the failed ideologies, because human deaths are very real consequences of that!
There are better pictures for comparison in the BBC article
I'm sorry Big Brother, it seems the slashdot ministry of truth didn't approve my post but there's no need to tie a rat to my face, I will correct my misprinted copy of 1984 immediately. /doublethink
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
"the stable state for governments is a tyranny with a ruling class, peasants, and groaning slavery. Every other form of government is just a transition to that state."
Might I add:
"Hot on the left, cold on the right, and the shit flows downhill."
In my quest to grok geologic time, one lesson keeps repeating itself, and that is that acquiescence to physics is correct.
The cost of that cleanup, of course, will be borne by taxpayers, not industry.
"He's a Communist. Why is he worrying about the rights of an individual?"
Pretty funny how the political theorists of Slashdot can blithely ignore Communist practice and mod your post Flamebait, but will gleefully attack _religious_ outcomes in contrast to religious theory. (Che Guevara looks hawt from Mom's basement. Mmm, so beardy and macho...)
Religion and politics should be judged by the results they produce, not by theories have shit to do with facts on the ground.
"This post is an artistic work of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."
Maybe the Founders should have included a clause in the Constitution that it was null and void after 100 years and would have to be rewritten by a new constitutional convention. :)
"Destroy science and religion. Science would re-emerge exactly the same; but not religion." - Penn Jillette, paraphrased
Could we enhance that?
A photo of Beyoncè could have had an even better effect.
But to find that picture, what did the FBI search for?
"pictures man looks like older osama bin laden lookalike" ?
What is the search strategy for finding a picture of the future Barak Obama?
blog.idigitall.com
And when exactly did you give women the right to vote? Oh yeah, right: 1971
10 ?"Hello World" life was simple then
Count DeMonet: your majesty! You look like the piss boy!
King Louis: ... and you look like a bucket of shit!
Where is McCarthy? Beyond that, Communists aren't actually a nice alternative to Corporatist Fascism. It's just a different was to organize a dictatorship. The problem is any form of Dictatorship, whether it's a Monarchy, Fascist State, Corporatist Monopolistic Oligarchy, Feudal Society, Communist State, Military Dictatorship, Un-Elected International Treaty Governing Body, etc. . .
Those are the only two choices. Individual rights and liberty, or authoritarian control by illegitimate despots who simply must know what you're up to at all times. I don't know how anyone in their right mind could choose the latter. What, do you hate yourself or something?
http://www.exguides.org/photoshop-tutorials/age-progression.html
(as much as I hate replying to oneself) Using Katie Holmes as an example:
Find older people who resemble the person, copy and paste. But they forgot this part, which might have helped:
Hmm, actually based on the results they didn't use this tutorial at all. They assigned a task to someone without the skills or knowledge, and he bluffed his way through it.