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Blizzard Adds Timestamps To WoW Armory

Kharny writes "In a move that could cause serious privacy problems for players of World of Warcraft, Blizzard has added timestamps and an RSS feed to the game's online armory site. This new feature will mean that anyone can follow 'real-time' developments in a World of Warcraft character, which display the exact time and date, so that others can see that person's playing habits. Many players have already complained about the fact that there is no opt-out setting, and this opens very big possibilities for online stalking."

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  1. Already possible by sopssa · · Score: 4, Informative

    This just makes it a little bit easier. One could easily write a LUA script that /who's the player in-game between some intervals and save the info. Or the more geeky ones could write a program that uses WoW's protocol and logins to do the same (and relogins if disconnected).

    So it's not like it wouldn't already be possible to gather those playing habits.

    1. Re:Already possible by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There are a lot of things that are "already possible", that are made "easier". It is known as the difficulty of a problem. I don't want to build a terrorism strawman so here is another analogy: It is already possible to perform voting fraud without electronic voting machines. All you need to do is gather your closest 100,000 conspirators and rig the counting process. Introducing a centralized software that you conveniently and mostly undetectably can modify just makes it easier.

      The fact is, making some things easier make things more probable and skews "cost - benefit" comparisons towards actually doing the thing. The example you use would require a WoW account and would be limited to a few people tops. The new changes can easily allow monitoring of tens of thousands of accounts from a single ip, with a few lines of Perl.

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    2. Re:Already possible by ubrgeek · · Score: 4, Funny

      > Writing a LUA [lua.org] script is extremely simple

      Oh I don't know. Coordinating all of those grass skirts and getting the roast pig out in time can be a challenge. Plus, there's the whole fire-stick thing...

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  2. You were supposed to be at nana's funeral by assemblerex · · Score: 5, Funny

    but instead I see you got new epic shoulders. gratz.

    1. Re:You were supposed to be at nana's funeral by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      What did Nana drop?

    2. Re:You were supposed to be at nana's funeral by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 5, Funny

      [1983 Rover Metro]
      "One Lady Owner, 30k on clock, used for shopping once a week."
      + 300% carrying capacity
      Use: +100% speed increase until it breaks down at the end of the road
      - 100% Chance to score with Nelfs, Humans, and Draenei. Gnomes and Dwarves take what they can get.

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  3. There is no privacy in WOW by MrRTFM · · Score: 5, Informative

    unlike most other online communities there is no way to show your status as 'Offline' (which makes it very annoying sometimes) In fact all this data is obtainable anyway - just makes it a bit easier for mom to see that johnny got that epic sword last night at 10:30PM - THAT'S PAST YOUR BEDTIME JOHNNY!!!!

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  4. Cyber Stalking - Really an issue? by Poobar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Situation: I am being "cyber-stalked".

    Solution: Log off WOW.

    Solution 2 (If you really need your MMORPG fix): Switch to a different character.

    Why would a person knowing where you are in a fictional landscape ever be a problem anyway? Surely there's some kind of ignore button in WOW (correct me if I'm wrong, I only played the free trial before getting bored), so even if they knew where you were, they could... what?

    1. Re:Cyber Stalking - Really an issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      then... err. do your job? care for your kids?

    2. Re:Cyber Stalking - Really an issue? by thesandtiger · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As someone who has seen a number of nasty divorces go down, let me explain something to you:

      Has 1 drink with dinner => massive alcoholic in divorce speak
      Spanked a child for running into the street => beats the children
      Hugs a child => probably molesting the children
      Has had lunch with co-worker of the opposite sex => has had a torrid affair
      Has had lunch with co-worker of the same sex => almost certainly having a homosexual affair

      So...

      Spent 3 hours over a weekend late at night raiding => neglects children, wasn't ever there for us, probably having an affair with someone online

      I agree, people probably shouldn't be playing or logging in from work unless their workplace allows it during breaks, but the point is that anyone who has an agenda and an axe to grind and would use this tool to support it will certainly also be more than happy to spin things in the worst possible way. Divorce lawyers are fucking NASTY creatures, and people going through a hostile divorce can be psychotic.

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  5. It seems by goldaryn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think there will be two SHOCKING REVELATIONS!

    1) Most people play waaay more WoW than they admit
    2) There's a lot of botting going on

    There, you're shocked now. aren't you! Hello?

    1. Re:It seems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I used to bot three toons at once. A couple made it to 80, and a dozen or so to 60. Mmoglider getting shut down is why I quit the game.

      Good riddance.

    2. Re:It seems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You "quit the game" that your bots were playing for you?

    3. Re:It seems by MistrBlank · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Someone please mod the above AC up for me.

      How can you quit a game you weren't playing to begin with. And I'm sorry but Bot players are the lowest life forms in the game. It's cheating and they need to get over themselves if they think it's anything but that.

    4. Re:It seems by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Funny

      How can you quit a game you weren't playing to begin with.

      The funniest part is that they quit the game because they were going to be forced to actually play it themselves. :)

      "What, PLAY the game? Fuck that shit, I'm out!"

      Clearly, they should be playing progress quest. :)

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  6. Stalking a WoW player? by mykos · · Score: 5, Funny

    I do believe that stalking a home-bound loser would make the stalker collapse into an infinitely dense (and sad) singularity of loserdom.

    1. Re:Stalking a WoW player? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I understand that that's the popular perception of WoW players... but you do realize it's about as accurate, and kind, as 'lazy niggers', right? That my guild (of 100ish people) has only 3 or 4 players who kinda fit the geeky shut-in mold, and the rest are normal men and women leading ordinary lives? My mother plays WoW, and she's nearly 60. I can list off 10 couples right off the top of my head in our guild. Some players are casual, some are hardcore raiders. It's all a matter of what percentage of someone's leisure time they choose to spend playing WoW.

      Sitting on a couch watching TV is a less worthy pursuit, in my mind, than killing undead minions in WoW. But the stigma of watching TV is notably less.

  7. Valve does the same thing with Steam and TF2 by Ailure · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Steam shows how much you have played a certain game in total: http://steamcommunity.com/id/robinwalker/ and you can view the inventories of TF2 players ( http://www.tf2items.com/ ).

    However unlike WoW, you can opt out as player info can't be obtained from private player profiles. When someone asked Valve why you can't grab "information" from a player who marked their profile as private, they said it was a recommendation from their lawyers. Interesting...

  8. beyond stupid. by unity100 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    are these people aware that it takes ages to upgrade even a tiny piece of your gear, if you already have reached a certain item level ?

    unless you go changing your items for show or for leisure like a monkey, and just leave your top tier items where they are, noone will be able to make out anything about your 'habits'.

    and if you are a raider who also does rp or does pvp and you routinely change armor sets, all they will be doing is knowing at what hour you raid. but then again after all there are a lot of guildies knowing that, and you people probably arrange those times on a forum which is probably open to public anyway.

    then whats the ruckus ...

  9. What's next? by gaelfx · · Score: 4, Funny

    Timestamps on Slashdot comments? /stalk function on every profile page? I don't think I could handle slashdot stalking, later folks

  10. Re:Great time to stop playing WoW by GaryPatterson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've never understood the draw and allure that WoW provides, and why people get addicted to the point that they drop out of schools. Maybe I am one of the few people that is lucky and doesn't require simulation from an online fake environment to further foster my own mind.

    Most of us WoW players are casuals, dropping in for an hour or two each day that would otherwise be spent on television. The rest of the time we work, spend time with our wife/husband/squid/mollusc and lead normal lives. My wife and I are having a child soon, we're moving house, I work too many hours in the office and still I find time for reading books, sleeping relatively normal amounts and playing WoW.

    It's just a game. Most of us find balance in our lives.

  11. Re:Job absentism by Tim+C · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's a huge difference between staying at home ill, sat at my desk within easy reach of my bed if I need it (or even in bed if I game on a laptop), staying in the warm, and not having to struggle through a 90 minute commute, and going in to the office, being unproductive as I infect my co-workers with whatever nasty little germ I have.

    Just because you're not too ill to sit at one desk, doesn't mean you're well enough to sit at another.

  12. Re:Great time to stop playing WoW by Tim+C · · Score: 4, Insightful

    turning down social interactions to instead go raiding with their groups

    That certainly can be a social interaction - just because people aren't sat in the same room talking face to face doesn't mean they're not talking.

    an online fake environment

    What's fake about it, in entertainment terms? In what ways are other forms of entertainment more real?

  13. I Blame the Twitter Mentality by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just glancing at this cursorily (it's slashdot, after all...), this seems like a WoW character's twitter feed. Blizzard prolly thought that was a cool feature: I mean, who doesn't want to communicate their every activity throughout the day in real time to a thousand of their closest friends, and via a website to a billion more complete strangers? Blizzard has watched a generation replace their privacy with "oooh, shiny" and figures they are just giving customers what they want.

    Congrats to Blizzard. Shame on the rest of us.

  14. I see by PePe242 · · Score: 4, Funny

    You haven't changed your epic underwear for 3 days!

  15. Re:checking WoW logs is easier than by fractoid · · Score: 4, Funny

    10 min after her bedtime, she is sleeping, every night. She is 20 month old.

    You should have trained her to farm you gold by now.

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  16. Re:It seems like you have been living 2 lives by david_thornley · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Then here's a message for management: Sick leave. What's common in US companies nowadays is "leave" or "paid time off", or whatever. It is used for both vacation and sick time, and in the US there's a whole lot less than a European would expect.

    What it means is that every day you spend home sick is a day you don't spend up at the cabin in summer, or downhill skiing in the winter, or pitching in on a school project for your child, or whatever you might want to do when you're away from work and well.

    If I'm hurting the company by coming in sick, then don't make me give up vacation time to help the company. Make provisions for me to get paid by doing what's best for the company.

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