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A Hyper-Velocity Impact In the Asteroid Belt?
astroengine writes "Astronomers have spotted something rather odd in the asteroid belt. It looks like a comet, but it's got a circular orbit, similar to an asteroid. Whether it's an asteroid or a comet, it has a long, comet-like tail, suggesting something is being vented into space. Some experts think it could be a very rare comet/asteroid hybrid being heated by the sun, but there's an even more exciting possibility: It could be the first ever observation of two asteroids colliding in the asteroid belt."
A collision between asteroids? Who wants to bet a woman was driving one of them?
For the love of god... somebody kick these nerds asses!
They don't generally collide!? What about when the Millenium Falcon hid in one? Does that mean the Empire Strikes Back was all made up? Next thing you're going to tell me that there aren't giant space eels living in the bigger rocks. (Places fingers in ears and sings loudly Star Wars theme song)
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They just should have slammed down the 'Hyperspace' button...sigh...
What way did the other one go? Time to call Bruce Willis, methinks.
Silly spaceballs and their ludacris speed foiling our scientists and their methods.
So... did this collision send anything in our direction?
Seems to me that an asteroid collision would most likely produce lateral debris spray that would be more tangential to the orbit than perpendicular to it.
It could also be that a spaceship has arrived in our solar system and they are using the asteroid belt to decelerate...
Maybe they've got some sort of exchange program running?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
There's a reason you don't normally see icy bodies in circular orbits in the asteroid belt: they'd be blown clean of the ice within a fairly short period of time, astronomically speaking. that's what the tail consists of, dust embedded in the ice being released as the ice sublimes. Which means that the ice here has to have been exposed fairly recently.
It is well known that when rebels jump into hyperspace to escape the pursuing imperial battle cruisers, they might pop out in an asteroid belt. But most people think it is always possible to negotiate the craft around it and escape. Such false notions are strengthened by reports of more manuevrable craft deliberately entering asteroid belts to escape pursuit. But they don't always succeed and they might actually collide with an asteroid. The danger has always been there.
Also there is an even more exciting possibility of cave dwelling gigantic worms that live in these asteroids might once in a while actually close their mouths well in time to trap the unwary spacecraft and digest the contents. The by products of such digestion are usually ejected with high velocity and can be seen for millions of miles. True Story.
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can you possibly understand what grave implications this has in store for superman? the kryptonite is coming!
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Their asteroid belt is dynamic and exciting, and filled with hungry, hungarian space eels in hovercrafts!
It's exponentially more than extreme velocity.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
What?! Someone was going to do this sooner or later... Don't kill the messenger!
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How is an asteroid collision more exciting than some kind of funky, very rare asteroid/comet hybrid?
Seriously...not anything big but something Tunguska sized would do, especially over a moderately populated area.
We spend peanuts on detecting potential collisions that could be the cause of the next extinction event. Mark my words, there'll be more money spent on earthquake analysis for Haiti and other "sensational" causes than will be spent on detecting PHOs (potentially hazardous objects) in the next 10 years. I am not denigrating the need to spend money on Haiti - that's a tragedy for sure - but when you look at how reactive we are with public money (New Orleans, anyone? Despite warnings, no one saw this coming?) when a much smaller amount spent up-front would potentially save not just a lot more lives but a lot more money....if better building codes had been in force in Haiti - how many more people would have survived? How much money would have been saved?
I despair for our race. If we saw a dinosaur killer coming and had a program in place already we could probably survive it. Asteroids move slowly but are heavy and require a lot of time/energy to deflect so we would see them early and be able to react...comets move much, much faster but are lighter so presumably if we had the detection gear and a few mass drivers in space already, we could deal with it in a safe time frame.
So give us our Haiti or Katrina from space, please. Make it hurt but not too much - just enough to wake up the people handing out government cash.
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Everyone knows the asteroids pass right through each other. It's either been shot or it has collided with a ship.
Honestly, what kind of education are scientists getting these days?
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Scenario 1: Asteroid strike. I defer to NASA JPL, the Tunguska event (100-meter class = ~ 15 mil tons TNT) asteroid occurs once or twice / 1000 years. A 1000-meter class is 1 in 15 million years. An 8000-meter class (dinosaur killer) is 1 in 50-100 million years.
Scenario 2: Earthquake. San Francisco has an annual forecast of earthquake probabilities, and they predict a 68% probability of a 6.7 Magnitude or greater in the next 30 years. Wikipedia gives a probability scale for earthquakes, where a Magnitude 7 (similar to what struke Haiti) occurs 18 / year. A single 6.7 earthquake (P = 120/year) is equivalent to 16 kilotons of energy, or about 1 Tungaska event (P = 0.004/year).
Given the disparity in the probability of asteroid strikes (on populated areas, no less) vs earthquakes, it should be no surprise that the world governments believe money is better spent on earthquake prediction and evacuation relief, not on asteroid strike detection. The "bang for the buck" is clearly higher in earthquake spending.
Well, where do you think baby asteroids come from?
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Only in Newtonian mechanics. However, if the objects' velocities are so fast that they would sum to more than the speed of light, then you need to use relativity. In no reference frame does the velocity of one relative to the other exceed c. I'm afraid I'm too lazy to look up the formula. The shelf with all my physics books on it must be 10 feet away from me (although at 0.8c it's only 6 feet).
Humans are good at context recognition. We can often gather information when data is missing or incomplete as much of human speech is effectively redundant. Thus, we can often complete a . In this case, the incomplete sentence made the headline shorter and made it very clear what was being communicated. The headline communicated that there may have been an asteroid collision but that scientists were very unsure. Headlines frequently use sentence fragments so we can quickly scan over them and see if we are interested. Newspapers have been doing this for some time. Indeed, many famous headlines are only one or two words.
(Wouldn't Spock be a fun character on Dexter turning into a homicidal vulcan psychopath? )
Well, considering the new Spock is played by the guy who plays Sylar... not much of a stretch of the imagination at all.
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Someone achieved to capture it on video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZfsnA7dAHI
Unbelievable. I wonder what that thing in the middle is...
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You're close, this is exactly how the movie Armageddon starts
A comet roaring through the asteroid belt knocks loose a chunk the size of texas and sends it hurdling towards earth
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I wonder if it's something braking before it gets into the inner planets...
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>>However, if the objects' velocities are so fast that they would sum to more than the speed of light, then you need to use relativity.
Mr. Pedantic: You always have to use relativity, not just when combined vectors exceed c. Realistically, of course, you only have to start worrying about it when velocity starts exceeding some sizeable fraction of c (but still well before > c in Newtonian physics).
Nonsense, we've been at peace with the Centari since 1947. They wouldn't dare invade now.
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Is this a rhetorical question?
Eg. one coming in from the left at 3/4c and one coming in from the left at 3/4c.
If they're both coming from the left at 0.75c, then their relative velocity will be zero....
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