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Correlation Found Between Brain Structure and Video Game Success
kghapa writes "Still want to argue that video games shrink your brain? While video games have been previously shown to stimulate brain activity and improve coordination skills, a recently published study has directly linked structures in the human brain with video game aptitude. And yes, apparently size does matter in this case. Quoting: '... each subject received 20 hours of training to play a video game specifically created for research purposes, called Space Fortress. It's basically an Asteroids-type arcade game, in which the object is to knock down and destroy an enemy fortress while dodging space mines. However, the game has lots of extra twists that require close attention. Some of the players were told to focus exclusively on running up a high score, while others were told to shift their priorities between several goals. The result? The subjects who had more volume in an area called the nucleus accumbens did significantly better in the early stages of training. Meanwhile, those who were well-endowed in different areas of the striatum, known as the caudate nucleus and putamen, handled the shifting strategies better.'"
...contributing to statistically greater success in tasks which might benefit from its function.
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That corporate video game companies will hire monkeys to test video games and pay them in peanuts to save the money for their annual bonuses. Most gamers won't notice the quality difference.
That might have less to do with video games than it does with robotics. (I imagine Mr. Universe would agree.)
"What's the use in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes?" --Fourth Doctor, "Robot"
"Hey baby, let me show you how well endowed my caudate nucleus is."
Obligatory PvP reference: "My brain is hung like a horse!"
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This is the correlation you were looking for: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OzWIFX8M-Y
Look at all those girls...
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Expect a long wait
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I'm waiting for the correlation between video game success and getting laid.
Sadly the correlation is an inverse one. It's why jocks get laid more.
Asteroids-type arcade game, in which the object is to knock down and destroy an enemy fortress while dodging space mines.
It sounds more like Star Castle, which *is* an Asteroids type game, but why not just come out and say Star Castle?
Somehow, the motherboard is a significant factor. And sometimes a joystick is just a joystick.
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Sounds good - where is the download?
I'm waiting for a correlation between those who 'get laid' with the implication that that means "sex is all I care about" to those who actually have dynamic lives above the reptilian brain stem...
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That's what *she* said!
There was a Murphy Brown episode where Murphy was barking instructions at a person running a video editing machine.
Murphy: "Faster... slower... go back!"
Guy: "You sound just like my wife."
Murphy: "Oh, just hurry up and get it over with!"
Guy: "Uncanny..."
The study is interesting enough, but they need to work on their visuals. The game's graphics barely compete with Stellar Fortress for the Atari 2600...
Take off every Sig. For great justice.
It's 2010, jocks play games too. Sports and FPS games in particular.
I thought the game sounded like fun so I looked it up. You can find it here: http://cogworks.cogsci.rpi.edu/?view=modules.research.spec&id=74 The page is down, so you may need to check the Google Cache. It does not appear to be available to the general public.
or else!
I guess.. if one drops expectations low enough..tbh though, I think fucking cows shouldn't count.
size does matter
those who were well-endowed
What an incredibly phallic story.
In other news, the area of the brain linked to violent behavior found. Subjects with larger brain structures more successful at violence, more prone to murder.
And here I thought my fast reflexes and hand-eye coordination were due to my abnormally large midi-chlorian count. With this article, I'll never convince my brother that I'm a jedi knight! Buzzkilled by science once again. "This is not the article you're looking for."
Correlation is not causation!!!!!
Wait, that doesn't even make sense here.
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Student: Is it true that the foundation of the universe is paradox?
Master: Well, yes and no.
This is fantastic information to have. You know, because of all the times in everyday life where you need to either gets lots of points or do different things rapidly. Let's see, there's sports and... sports? People good at video games are good at sports?
Uh huh. *rolls eyes*
I live in constant fear of the Coming of the Red Spiders.
It's like the Alphabet Game for nerds.
Yes, but if you don't count sheep or cows, you rule out 95% of Americans!
What are the implications for that deaf, dumb and blind kid then?
I read that as Dwarf Fortress, not Space Fortress. Just when I thought all those hours of DF might actually mean something...
A study which actually states its correlation and not causation! With the gross misinterpretation of studies and statistics, I am surprised the headline didn't read "Study Finds Brain Structure is the Cause of Video Game Success!"
"There ought to be limits to freedom." -George W. Bush
Where can I get my brain size measured, and what can I take to make it bigger! Coming soon. Enzyte for gamers.
Watch me stroll through the arcades, as I intimidate you with my BIG head!!
more true than you realize. I assume you're not from the US? When I was 14 back in the early 90s I'd see the occasional fat person on the street or in a mall. Today every other person is obese. It's gross.
Team Fortress will work much better.
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No, I am from the US.
I'm just a pessimist.
It's not clear from TFA or the abstract whether the volumes measured were absolute or in proportion to overall brain volume. A bigger brain will have bigger parts usually, but it may need them all bigger to run the thing. A smaller brain with a larger part might have more of that function than it requires, lending to greater ability. Anyone got access to the PDF to see how they define volume?
Size itself can be a contributor to greater or lesser processing according to what and where. We found that the larger the cross section of the foremost part of the corpus callosum (larger taken as a fraction of overall volume) had greater attentional abilities, particularly disattention. We also found that the smaller the portion of Broca's area that became engaged, the greater the ability to read something cold and make themselves sound natural rather than stilted as though they were reading aloud. They both make sense in different ways -- the former is a collection connections between hemispheres, essentially a cable trunk, so greater volume = more neurons or bigger/more efficient/effective neurons, or something similar. In the latter, the smaller area is likely a function of greater interconnection allowing for more processing, more complex processing, faster processing due to less distance, or something like these.
In any case, all the parts examined in TFA are controlled in large part by the dopamine system, meaning they're involved in reward. That's reward in the Skinnerian sense -- reinforcement -- not in the sense of causing a good feeling. They're all involved in learning. The tasks measured were scored according to how well/fast someone learned the task or strategies/tactics that worked. So it all makes good plain old sense, as does much of the more nuts and bolts stuff in neuroscience.
A point of clarification vs. the Cosmic Log write up: they failed to find an interaction with the hippocampus, as opposed to finding none. Absence of evidence, etc. That doesn't mean it's not there, just that they failed to detect it if it was.
"I may be synthetic, but I'm not stupid." -- Bishop 341-B
Yeah, seriously. It was probably about the year 2000, maybe a bit before, when *not* playing video games became uncool and nerdy (at least for males, this particular stereotype lags for females but it's getting there).
dynamic lives above the reptilian brain stem...
There is not much dynamism in a life without hormones, breathing, regulated heart beat and consciousness.
true, but irrelevant. I was saying that there's MORE to life than that... most people are too busy thinking with their genitals rather than their brains to realize this.
Lack of impulse control do tend cause some reckless and criminal behaviours, but then again, it might help an artist to create "in the stream" or "by divine assistance". Viewing brains and behaviour by extension as interdependent systems helps to deal with the sometimes painful reality of taking "good" with the "bad" and the problem of suffering in general. I'm not saying people shouldn't be kept accountable for their choices, quite the opposite, in fact.
I'm waiting for a correlation between those who 'get laid' with the implication that that means "sex is all I care about" to those who actually have dynamic lives above the reptilian brain stem...
This is slashdot, nobody here have dynamic lives above or below the reptilian brain stem assuming that by dynamic you mean (or include) some sort of social interaction not involving a keyboard.
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Meanwhile, those who were well-endowed in different areas...
Knowledge = Power
P= W/t
t=Money
Money = Work/Knowledge so the less you know the more you make
With regards to the article title ("Correlation Found Between Brain Structure and Video Game Success"), after seeing that this article seems to be missing posts with the adequate meme, in the interest of completness and as per Slashdot tradition I would like to remind everybody that:
Correlation is not Causation
Thank you for your time.
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