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Antarctica Needs a Network Engineer

littlekorea writes "It's a little underpaid, but network engineers with a fetish for very cold weather might be interested to know that the Australian Government's Antarctic Division is seeking network engineers to manage its telephony, satellite and radio comms in Antarctica. According to the job FAQ, summer temperatures aren't a lot colder than your average data centre. But winters of -30 degrees celsius (-22 Fahrenheit) might make the morning jog a little challenging."

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  1. One plus about the cold: by base3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    It should be an overclocker's paradise there! Of course, better get the best rig you can get starting out, because I'm pretty sure Newegg's shipping isn't as cheap to there.

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    1. Re:One plus about the cold: by idontgno · · Score: 3, Informative

      Personal effects transportation limit is 1 cubic meter and 250 kg. I hope your OCable gaming rig is pretty compact. (Yes, even a tower system with all accouterments would fit, but that would be pretty close to all you could take.)

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    2. Re:One plus about the cold: by maino82 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm pretty sure they don't have a distribution center there, though, so no tax! Bonus!

    3. Re:One plus about the cold: by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Funny

      What else do you need? Clothing? Simply put on what you'll wear. It's not like changing clothes is mandatory, is it?

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    4. Re:One plus about the cold: by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

      Personal effects transportation limit is 1 cubic meter and 250 kg. I hope your OCable gaming rig is pretty compact. (Yes, even a tower system with all accouterments would fit, but that would be pretty close to all you could take.)

      1 cubic meter is pretty large, actually. It's 1000L of volume, and should be adequate for all but the largest cases (which will probably bust one of the dimensional limits. Of course, since it's mostly empty space, you could just bring the parts themselves and assemble it over there and use the space inside the case for other materials you'll need.

      The only real downside is that internet access isn't 24/7 there - you have to rely on satellites (and they aren't geosync), so your pings will be crappy. On the plus side, as network admin, you'll probably have full access to the internet... and won't be having to fight for access...

    5. Re:One plus about the cold: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I heard the temperature could get as low as -40 degrees down there. But I don't know if that is Celsius or Fahrenheit.

    6. Re:One plus about the cold: by idontgno · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have to respond to this.

      Did I say "tower" (by itself)? I said "rig". Unless you have direct HDMI or DVI access to your visual cortex, you'll need a monitor. If this is a decent gaming rig, it's not going to be small, even if it's thin (LCD), so that's several cc more.

      And your keyboard, mouse, and software CDs? (or did you crack the game, you insidious polar pirate?)

      No, it won't be a cubic meter. As long as you use no packing material. I'm sure the cargo ships carrying your less-than-cubic-meter of computing goodness will have a smooth, waveless, undisturbed trip. And all loading/offloading activities will be as gentle as a mother cradling her child.

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  2. Extra job perk by garg0yle · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The ATMs there don't charge any fees!

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    1. Re:Extra job perk by xaxa · · Score: 2, Informative

      ATMs in the UK don't charge fees (at least, they don't charge people with UK bank accounts) and the climate is much, much better.

    2. Re:Extra job perk by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Funny

      the climate is much, much better.

      That's debatable. I prefer my water in solid form it's less... well, ya know, wet.

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    3. Re:Extra job perk by gmack · · Score: 2, Funny

      You don't have to shovel rain.

  3. From "The Big Bang Theory" by Yuioup · · Score: 4, Funny

    "We need to talk to you about something
    that happened at the North Pole."

    "If this is about the night
    the heat went out,
    there's nothing to be
    embarrassed about."

    - "It's not about that."
    - "We agreed to never speak of it again."

    "So we slept together naked."

    "It was only to keep our core body
    temperatures from plummeting."

    "He's speaking about it."

    "For me, it was a bonding moment."

  4. Personal Insulation by Bicx · · Score: 3, Funny

    Morning jog? This is a job for a flabby individual with lots of personal insulation, and jogging is out of the question!

    1. Re:Personal Insulation by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually from my extensive winter hiking experience staying warm when you are moving is easy, in fact not getting too hot is the problem. The problem with getting cold is only when you stop to camp. Breakfast time is the worst. You have to get out of that nice comfy sleeping bag at the coldest part of the day, put on your frozen outer clothes and fiddle with an ice cold stove with half frozen fingers or gloves on. Just keep moving and you'd be fine. :)

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    2. Re:Personal Insulation by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The cold and wind in places like Antarctica are not quite the same as the cold and wind in any place you have been winter camping. I work at the northern equivalent, and it would take one hell of a sleeping bag to keep you warm out in the open over night. There is no good protection when the wind chill makes it -70+F out there (which is what it was here just last week).

      It's also a really, really bad idea to go out anywhere by yourself, especially on foot. When the wind picks up and you get white-out conditions (which can happen in minutes), you often can't see a building even if it's 50 feet in front of you.

      It's certainly doable, it's just a really really bad idea. Death at these temperatures can happen in minutes under the right cicumstances. Chances are you're going to have an accident at some point and then that's it, you'll be dead long before anybody finds you. It would be a much better idea to just use the indoor treadmill they almost certainly have.

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  5. Obligatory by cashman73 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Milt, we're gonna need to go ahead and move you down into storage B. We have some new people coming in, and we need all the space we can get. So if you could just go ahead and pack up your stuff and move it down there, that would be terrific, OK?"

    1. Re:Obligatory by nitehawk214 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Where's my red stapler?

      I assume you would have some difficulty burning this building down.

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  6. Raytheon by rindeee · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For anyone who's interested, Raytheon Polar Services is almost always hiring for positions at the US South Pole research facilities.

    1. Re:Raytheon by idontgno · · Score: 3, Funny

      Bad testing environment for that. A few minutes exposure to Winter ambient conditions and you'll welcome the warming glow of the Active Denial System (AKA open-air microwave oven).

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    2. Re:Raytheon by Nadaka · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Funny but true. My father was "tech support" for the Airforce in the 70s and 80s at Malmstrom AFB in Montana. He serviced remote nuclear silo's and early warning radar. It was cold enough that there was a chance you would die on the drive out if you had to service some of the equipment at night, and thats if you didn't get stuck in a 30ft snow drift. And yes, he did step in front of the radar to warm himself up.

    3. Re:Raytheon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think it'd be pretty cool to be able to walk around the polar base doing work outside, in t-shirt and jeans while being warmed from a microwave device. That's called progress =)

      If it's cool that just means you aren't doing it right. =]

    4. Re:Raytheon by Nadaka · · Score: 2, Funny

      no.

  7. thats one by ionix5891 · · Score: 5, Funny

    cool job

  8. -30C? That's hot! by Cyberax · · Score: 4, Interesting

    /me looks at the thermometer outside my window. It shows -49C (I'm in Yakutsk).

    Hm. I think, it might be a good idea to move somewhere where it's a bit warmer.

    PS: and no, it's not a good idea to put a computer outside at this weather. HDDs freeze to death quickly.

    1. Re:-30C? That's hot! by hitmark · · Score: 2, Interesting

      SSD ftw?

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    2. Re:-30C? That's hot! by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 5, Funny

      What are you doing in Yakutsk?

      Getting ready to attack Kamchatka... [rolls dice]

    3. Re:-30C? That's hot! by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 3, Funny

      It was cold a few years ago when it was -45C but all that happened was they closed the elementary schools.

      We had a similar situation in the UK recently. We had 5cm of snow and the whole country shut down for two days.

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    4. Re:-30C? That's hot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      SSD ftw?

      For the Winter?

    5. Re:-30C? That's hot! by tehcyder · · Score: 3, Funny

      We had a similar situation in the UK recently. We had 5cm of snow and the whole country shut down for two days.

      To be fair, it was more like 10 cm, in some places...

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    6. Re:-30C? That's hot! by Abstrackt · · Score: 3, Funny

      SSD ftw?

      For the Winter?

      I just finished winterizing my SSD and let me tell you, it's surprisingly difficult to wrap chains around a hard drive and still have it fit in your case.

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  9. HR is pissed now by NevarMore · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was going to scold Slashdot for posting a job ad on the front page. Imagine all the crap resumes that'll wind up in the HR inbox now.

    Then I realized I despise HR, especially those in the hiring/recruiting section.

    I'm imagining some choice resume snippets from this crowd -
      - I live in my moms basement and never leave, so I won't go stir crazy
      - I've seen that John Carpenter movie about monsters in Antarctica like 9 times
      - I could totally do a rad experiment where I overclock an old PDP-11 processor to 9ghz since its so cold
      - UHF? VHF? Fah! I can replace that with a hacked WRT router running linux for like $5
      - Penguin/Linux jokes galore

  10. Cooling is actually problematic there. by the_other_chewey · · Score: 5, Informative

    I read a very intersting article about IT at the south pole a while ago. One of the most surprising facts:
    They need extra large fans to cool their servers. The Amundsen-Scott station is alomst 3000m above sea level,
    which means rather thin air - so they need a higher throughput to achieve the same cooling capacity than a
    data center at more usal elevations.

    The cold outside temperature means no real need for AC, but doesn't help too much in terms of cooling power:
    The difference between 295K and 250K isn't that big and outweighed by the lower air density.

  11. Re:Don't need to move to be cold by smitty777 · · Score: 3, Informative

    So, just to put it in perspective, the average winter is between -112 to -130 F. The coldest naturally occurring temperature on the face of the earth was recorded there, which was actually colder than dry ice.

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  12. brings a whole new meaning.... by foolserrend1975 · · Score: 5, Funny

    .....to "Hiring Freeze"

  13. Re:No monsters for me today! by grub · · Score: 3, Insightful


    And come home with the Thing? No thank you...

    You wouldn't come home with it. It'd come home looking and acting just like you.

    .

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  14. Read "Big Dead Place" before going by Required+Snark · · Score: 5, Informative
    Check out the blog http://www.bigdeadplace.com/ before you go. The book of the same name is also a must read.

    It's not just that being on the ice leads to crazy behavior, it's that the management is back in the US and they treat the workers like dirt. While they have picnics back in Kansas City. The NSF, which pays for it all, is equally brain dead. Here are some some "uncomfortable questions" from the blog.

    The Supreme Court has ruled that Antarctica is "a foreign country". The IRS has emphasized recently that Antarctica is "not a foreign country". Does NSF consider Antarctica to be "a foreign country" or "not a foreign country"? Do American citizens legally have Constitutional rights in Antarctica? Does NSF voluntarily support the Constitutional rights of American citizens in Antarctica? What legal model is used by NSF to determine the rights of American citizens in Antarctica? Since NSF manages all facilities at the stations, which areas or facilities are considered "public" areas (guaranteed Constitutional protection)? If there are no "public" areas, then what policies does NSF have to ensure protection of "free speech" and "free press"? What policies does NSF have to keep its contractors from undermining these protections, if any? If there are no civil protections granted to Americans in Antarctica, are employees explicitly told this by NSF and its contractors?

    Having pointed this all out, it also sounds like fun in a weird way, if you enjoy hanging with funny disfunctional drunks in a potentially lethal environment.

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  15. Re:Don't need to move to be cold by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Oh, you'd drop it on a forest somewhere. Mountains, something with lots and lots of trees and thus lots of oxygen. The displacement would result in more sugar production by the trees.

  16. Re:Don't need to move to be cold by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    There is not enough atomospheric pressure for it to turn into a liquid. It would go straight into a solid if it were cold enough. It would probably look like regular snow, which would make it a bit difficult to spot.

  17. finally your chance to join the 300 club by Luyseyal · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is your chance to join the 300 club!

    -l

    /act now!

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  18. Re:Don't need to move to be cold by ae1294 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sources on google. /C

    This is /. you need to site sources using Wikipedia and only Wikipedia...

  19. What if this was Mars? by odin84gk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Does anyone really want to go to Antarctica? It is a cold, harsh environment that will isolate you from your family, friends, and civilized comforts. It had its novelty factor back in the day, just like Mars does now.

    How is Mars / The moon more exciting/pleasant than Antarctica? Can we really expect people to want to populate the Moon or Mars without a large financial/spiritual/political motivation? Sure, there is the novelty factor of "OMG I'm on the moon!!!" but that can only last for a few years.

    1. Re:What if this was Mars? by ztransform · · Score: 2, Informative

      Does anyone really want to go to Antarctica? It is a cold, harsh environment that will isolate you from your family, friends, and civilized comforts.

      You're asking the wrong crowd. A number of slashdotters would be quite happy in isolation from family, friends, bars, pubs, or any social interaction.

  20. Re:Seen the movie? by smooth+wombat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The idea of being trapped with Kate Beckinsale, for any length of time, while highly appealing, is immediately dashed when one realizes she smokes.

    Yeah, yeah, blah, blah, smokers. Sorry, if I'm going to have any sense of enjoyment being in close proximity to someone like Kate, I don't want them or me to be horfing up a lung or smelling like shit all the time.

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  21. One Big Catch by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 2, Informative

    Before anyone from the US gets too excited about going out on an exotic job:

    Only Australian citizens, Australian residents with proof of eligibilty to work in Australia and New Zealand residents are eligble to apply.

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  22. Did They Mention? by Comatose51 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They did also mention that the base get 16,500 condoms a year. It gets cold and lonely there in Antarctica with nothing else to do except for each other.

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    1. Re:Did They Mention? by Hatta · · Score: 3, Informative

      125 people, that's 62.5 couples. With 16,500 condoms, that's 264 condoms per couple per year. 264/365*7~= 3x per week. That's about right, maybe a little on the low side. Certainly not indicative of any captivity induced orgies.

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    2. Re:Did They Mention? by twosat · · Score: 2

      Ha, maybe it will be a chance for a Slashdotter to get a girlfriend and to get lucky!!. Doing a Google search on Antarctica and "ice wives" brings up this site as well as a few others ;-). bigdeadplace.com/frontierwatch/?p=123

  23. You need to be an AU or NZ citizen by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2, Informative

    Aussies and Kiwis only :-\

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  24. My father has held this position. by Jacques+Chester · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's very hard to qualify for. My father served two winter tours for the Antarctic Division in exactly this role. He loved it to bits -- he's a bit of a hermit, so only having to deal with the same dozen people for months at a time was his idea of heaven.

    However, a lot of people apply. A lot of them are very smart and qualified. My father has decades of experience radio, satellite, microwave, land line and LAN communications. You may need the same.

    Next you need to pass the rigorous screening process. You need to be in good physical condition. Dad spent months sweating away in a gym to meet the weight, blood pressure and cardio requirements. You will be checked for a large number of medical conditions, and if any of them turn up, you will not be accepted.

    Finally, there's the psych review. If you're going to be a winterer, you'll be living in isolated darkness for months with a small group of people with a pitiful satellite uplink to the internet (no youtube or games for you). Not everyone is suited to that.

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