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Apple Tablet Rumor Wrap Up

Since the Apple event is this afternoon, and the submission bin overflows with Apple Tablet rumor stories, I'm putting up a few of the more choice links here so we can all speculate for the next few hours. A McGraw Hill CEO confirmed the tablet on CNBC last night, basically saying it is a big iPhone that has content agreements with publishers. Another blogger wrote in with a expectation list for the event, and technologizer had a nice history of fail in the world of tablet computing. Feel free to add your own rumor, speculation, and exhausted eye rolling below.

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  1. i'm waiting for: by madddddddddd · · Score: 2, Funny

    iphone nano

  2. Apple's strategy by schmidt349 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sure it could be the next G4 Cube, but I think Apple's approach to emerging new computing niches gives them a fighting chance. Microsoft just throws Windows on the device complete with all the crappy desktop metaphors and UI widgets that are completely irrelevant to the new form factor -- witness Windows Mobile and all the Windows tablets. Apple at least rethinks usability.

    1. Re:Apple's strategy by Finallyjoined!!! · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Correction: Apple at least rethinks usability properly.

      Microsoft bungs hundreds of millions at "usability" & we end up with the stupid ribbon... Pah!

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    2. Re:Apple's strategy by Wingsy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "I don't mind Apple trying new things, but I fail to see what this device has going for it that is essentially "New"."

      Ya think that may be because you haven't even seen it yet?

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    3. Re:Apple's strategy by Low+Ranked+Craig · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Depends on what you want. If this device is essentially a big iPod touch, and has a good online store for e-books, this is exactly what I want. A device that will let me read a book, listen to music, watch a movie, and browse the internet. I really wanted a kindle but the thing is a unitasker with an e-ink screen and that doesn't work for me. I don't want this to do coding or write documents. This will be much more convenient to carry than my MacBook.

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    4. Re:Apple's strategy by digitig · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Correction: Apple at least rethinks usability properly. Microsoft bungs hundreds of millions at "usability" & we end up with the stupid ribbon... Pah!

      Do you really think the ribbon was anything to do with usability? As far as I can see, it was about having a patentable UI element that OO.o and its ilk couldn't copy.

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    5. Re:Apple's strategy by Tom · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Microsoft just throws Windows on the device complete with all the crappy desktop metaphors and UI widgets that are completely irrelevant to the new form factor -- witness Windows Mobile and all the Windows tablets. Apple at least rethinks usability.

      Apple at least thinks about usability. When's the last time that MS did that? I can tell you: Just prior to the launch of Win95, after even the final user testing showed that this "start button" concept is stupid, dumb, user-unfriendly and counterintuitive. They finally put the "Start" label on it (it was just the windos logo before that, yes a straight copy from the Apple logo on the Apple menu bar, except that that's always been on the menu bar where users expect menu things to be) and then added the "click here to start" animation when you first launch the OS, because even the label wasn't enough.

      That's how MS thinks about "usability". Explains a lot about the trainwreck that every new windos edition adds to, doesn't it?

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    6. Re:Apple's strategy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I fail to see what this device has going for it that is essentially "New".

      Lock-in. Ten years ago, would anyone have predicted that products like the iPhone or the Kindle could possibly have any success at all? Back then, it looked like there was a trend toward more freedom, and new products would be competing to be more open and usable than one another.

      Somehow, in the last decade, the personal computer market has accepted (in the sense of people actually spend money on some of the products) that personal computers don't need to be totally open to developers; that personal computers can use the same development model as video game consoles, and some people (maybe a minority, but a big enough niche to make a profit and get a SHITLOAD of publicity) will actually buy them.

      So what's new here? Well, look at the tablets of the past: they were programmable by the Little People. They were personal computers in the old sense, where when you bought one, you totally owned it, and you could even start a software business on one if you wanted to, with no limits to what you could do. Not this time. This time it's going to be closed up, have a centralized app store that only sells approved products, and yet people are considering it newsworthy and even predict some success.

      This isn't some obscure wackjob company that you can safely laugh at by default when they try to commit atrocities against hackers; it's Apple. The atrocities are there, but not the laughter. The mockery will be there, but tinged with a very real feeling of fear and bitterness. This fucking piece of shit just might still be in the news the day after tomorrow. And that's sobering. We're nearing the end of the personal computer revolution that took off about 3 decades ago. We're seeing Apple destroy something that they played such an important part in creating. That's news. First it was the handheld, now it's something bigger. In a few years: the desktop?

    7. Re:Apple's strategy by lastchance_000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why would anyone want to?

    8. Re:Apple's strategy by kevinmenzel · · Score: 2, Informative

      Having played around with several of the old Chicago builds, I'm pretty sure you'll find that it was labeled "start" fairly early on, at least by the first beta build. See screen-shots at http://toastytech.com/guis/chicago.html.

    9. Re:Apple's strategy by digitig · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Lock-in. MS Office is pervasive in schools and in business, and a drastically different interface makes it harder for users to shift. True, for a short term the Ribbon is pushing some users who have the choice away from MS Office, but I think that MS are planning to ride that out and by agressive deals with schools, colleges, governments, etc get people locked in.

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    10. Re:Apple's strategy by ID000001 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think using a LED / LCD screen for book reading is going to put a little more strain on the eyes then e-ink display. Which might make it not suitable for a good amount of people. If being doubled as e-reader is the major selling point, this is likely to be too expensive to count. Of course, Apple have a few years to let this go. We will see.

    11. Re:Apple's strategy by trickyD1ck · · Score: 2, Informative

      Please, watch this presentation. I was actually impressed by the amount of usability research they put into the Ribbon. Also, data show, that users like it, so enough of these horse laugh comments already.

    12. Re:Apple's strategy by Man+On+Pink+Corner · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If the tablet solves the e-reader problem, I'll be happy with it. Right now there are no e-readers that make me want to use them to read newspapers, books, and technical documents. All of them have one gaping flaw or another.

      Think of whatever gadget Apple is announcing as if it were just another household appliance. I don't care if my e-reader is "open" any more than I care if my dishwasher is. I just want it not to suck. It will live on my kitchen table where there used to be a two-week-thick pile of newspapers, and that's basically all I ask of it.

    13. Re:Apple's strategy by andereandre · · Score: 4, Informative

      can't watch it, it needs silverlight.

    14. Re:Apple's strategy by lastchance_000 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Great point. See here for an example.

    15. Re:Apple's strategy by Shining+Celebi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This time it's going to be closed up, have a centralized app store that only sells approved products, and yet people are considering it newsworthy and even predict some success.

      Predict some success? The Apple tablet has been a huge story even in the mainstream press for months and it's been nothing but fawning, salivating coverage about how this is the Next Big Thing. With all that advertising, I'm sure it's safe to say those predictions are right -- it's going to be a huge success, regardless of the factors you mention and regardless of whether it's actually good. I can't imagine any other company getting such adulatory coverage everywhere from the New York Times to Reuters to PC World for months about a product nobody even actually knows anything about.

    16. Re:Apple's strategy by cgenman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Do you really think the ribbon was anything to do with usability?

      Maybe patents had something to do with it, but it is classic Microsoft usability. It takes a cohesive, existing system, and layers on top an additional UI element that they hope will make all of the other UI elements make sense. Microsoft rarely removes elements.

      It's like Windows 7 filesharing. Not only did they keep the old Samba based filesharing, but they added an additional type of filesharing on top. Now you have the joys of setting all of the permissions twice, only now you don't really know which goes to which.

      Or the godawful and inconsistent side panels. Why you'd want a system-level UI element taking up that much room just to offer to print photos for you is anybody's guess. But the side panels simply replicate functionality that can be achieved by right-clicking, double clicking, going to the menus, option clicking, or sometimes multiples of the above.

      Or for that matter, Word: where each separate program module has its own interface elements. This is true whether those interface elements would make sense elsewhere, or replicate other functions / settings within the application. Or are just legacy and don't really matter anymore.

      Apple, on the other hand, actually streamlines. They removed the disk drive, removed the com and serial ports. When spotlight became the way to search in OSX, they removed the other ways to search. Instead of just trying to add, so as not to upset old users, they actively redesign the whole system to be usable as a whole. While I have low hopes for the tablet as a piece of hardware, I'm excited to see the interface conventions it comes up with.

    17. Re:Apple's strategy by Azureflare · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This ties in to exactly what Apple is doing. McGraw Hill releases their textbooks for iPad -> Schools adopt iPad -> Locked in!

      It worked for Microsoft, why not Apple?

    18. Re:Apple's strategy by Asclepius99 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I disagree here. I'm always amazed by people that are, shall we say, less tech savvy and their inability to find things in menus that aren't set up exactly like the program they usually use. I'm not even talking about renaming things, just putting them under a different tab. The amount of people that can't do this is staggering.

    19. Re:Apple's strategy by Azureflare · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Usually eyestrain is a result of glare/backlighting on LED/LCDs. It wears down the eyes.

      If the iPad is using a PixelQi screen or something similar, then there won't be backlighting most of the time (it uses ambient lighting and reflective display to enhance the pixels), and there won't be eyestrain. In fact, it is almost exactly the same as eInk, but extremely cheap AND capable of color.

      If this catches on, the Kindle won't stand a chance. Sorry.

    20. Re:Apple's strategy by Azureflare · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Battery life and use in sunlight, however, go to the e-ink machines.

      Clearly, you have never heard of PixelQi or mirasol. eInk doesn't win in usage under direct sunlight anymore. Perhaps battery life, but that remains to be seen.

    21. Re:Apple's strategy by geektweaked.com · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think all companies have their innovative products alongside the products that just sorta get phoned in. Sure, there's a couple lazy product managers within Microsoft that are willing to ship the same boring crap over and over again. Then there's the people working on Surface that are doing serious R&D into multitouch interfaces. Even the Zune/ZuneHD are pretty innovative products that really had a lot of thought put into the interface.

    22. Re:Apple's strategy by dilvish_the_damned · · Score: 2, Interesting

      When you claim "meh" on my iTablet thingy, this will only increase my smugness because we both know you secretly want one. Even if you really don't. the more you deny it, the more the rest of us will know you really really do.

      Go ahead.

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  3. Early Prediction by pete-wilko · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My prediction: that the massive amount of hype built up for this will mean a spectacular write-up of the device regardless of the quality - or else there will be a lot of egg on various 'tech reporters' faces. Also I loved the penny-arcade comic on this: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/1/22/

    1. Re:Early Prediction by itsdapead · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My prediction: that the massive amount of hype built up for this will mean a spectacular write-up of the device regardless of the quality

      My counter-prediction: when Jobs stands up and announces a larger version of the iPod Touch and the availability of ebooks on iTunes, lots of people will start publicly whinging about the fact that its not powered by zero-point energy, doesn't come with free, unlimited mobile broadband, the books still cost as much as paper books, has less space than a Nomad and is generally lame. Meanwhile, all the media bods who hyped it up will start scouring the land for pundits who now want to knock it down.

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  4. My toilet by digitalsushi · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm excited, cause this is going to really shrink down the pile of magazines on my toilet tank! I love how Apple can always class up everything I do in life.

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    1. Re:My toilet by DarthVain · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ya, like anyone is gonna want to touch that thing. Seriously.

  5. Touch screen apps has come of age by Twillerror · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Looking at the history of the tablet it always seems to be a PC with a touch screen. MS Word or Excel and a tablet don't go together.

    The start menu, task bar, and general navigation of a full blown PC (win or mac) doesn't directly translate.

    It is very likely that this tablet will just be a big ole iPhone. I think everyone who has used their smart phone on their couch has gone "God I wish the screen was just a few more inches".

    The "content" portion of the web will translate very well to the new tablets.

    Any app that requires but load of editing...especially with text won't work. Imagine writing a book, some C++ code, or fill in a form with 20 inputs on one of these things. Even with a slide out keyboard these sort of tasks suck. People will make simple music and video editors...but real work just has to be done on a full pc.

    That said the tablet could be put in a doc and instead of translating the pc to a tablet...it'll be the other way around. This is where MS might have some advantage for some folks...especially in business.

    A Chrome OS tablet has to follow with what is essentially an Android phone with a slightly bigger screen. MS will come out with something like Windows with a simple interface...or Zune(just rebrand the thing already MS).

    Wouldn't it be great if you could get one tablet with all three OSs....

    1. Re:Touch screen apps has come of age by delinear · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, with a dock for the office I can think of a bunch of niche areas this could fill nicely. I can't see how it could fully replace a significant portion of the desktop or laptop markets, but maybe that's the idea (since Apple already sell into both markes, it's likely just an attempt to close down on anyone else capturing that niche in the middle and a few stragglers from either market). Of course, a bunch of people will also buy it because of who made it, and a few more to use for couch surfing / as a remote interface for other devices in their home. I've seen dozens of articles saying it will revolutionise the e-book market, that claim I'm quite dubious about. Having tried to read books on big screen PDAs and laptops, it just doesn't feel right - some combination of e-ink and transparent OLED seems to be the right answer there, and if this was that I'm sure we'd already know about it.

    2. Re:Touch screen apps has come of age by larry+bagina · · Score: 2, Funny

      no shit. I mean, you're the kind of guy who won't even pay for an apostraphe.

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    3. Re:Touch screen apps has come of age by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But Im not willing to pay $800-$1500 or whatever the tablet costs for the privilege of casual couch surfing.

      Then don't. This product isn't for you. Why is it when ever Apple does *anything* Slashdot takes it as a personal affront? The iPod (lame), the iPhone (better Smartphones exist), the newest MacBook Pros (No Express Card slot), The built in batteries, etc. Apple, or any other company, isn't forcing you to do anything.

      When McLaren or Maybach come out with new cars do you all complain that they're over priced and don't appeal to you? Why do you do it with computers?

      Sort of reminds me of this xkcd. Fine, the Apple tablet doesn't appeal to you, why even bother making a comment?

    4. Re:Touch screen apps has come of age by NatasRevol · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I read the first two sentences of your comment and went:

      Dock + Tablet = desktop AND laptop replacement, if all you do is basic computing.

      Not sure why you didn't. Seems logical. Though I seriously doubt there will be a keyboard+mouse+charger+monitor dock for a few years, if ever. It's just not Apple's style.

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    5. Re:Touch screen apps has come of age by Rockoon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Translation:

      Apple fanboy sees all negative observations as complaints, and ends his post with a question where he is wondering why anyone would ever publicly make negative observations about Apple or Apple Products.

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    6. Re:Touch screen apps has come of age by Steauengeglase · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wow, comparing an Apple tablet to a McLaren. And some wonder why Apple's fans are so often labeled elitist.

    7. Re:Touch screen apps has come of age by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Better translation: Apple products are for idiots.

    8. Re:Touch screen apps has come of age by vadim_t · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because the 10 articles that get posted every time Steve Jobs scratches his butt are getting very tiresome.

      Slashdot doesn't have an article about every new product Sony or HP make, and I don't see why Apple is any more noteworthy.

    9. Re:Touch screen apps has come of age by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      you two should have a blind date, considering you won't even pay for a spellchecker.

    10. Re:Touch screen apps has come of age by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2, Interesting

      >When McLaren or Maybach come out with new cars do you all complain that they're over priced and don't appeal to you? Why do you do it with computers?

      I already own a macbook and an iphone, so I am part of the demographic they are targeting. I see the tablet as potentially like the Macbook Air. An expensive concept thats targets a niche. I dont see why pointing that out along with Apple's horrible app store policies is such an affront to you.

    11. Re:Touch screen apps has come of age by Darth+Snowshoe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What you mean to say is "Apple is good, but through a lot of research and investigation, I can usually find a product that is (somewhat, in some aspects) better, at a somewhat lesser cost." Some people don't want to make a sport out of finding the very best bargain in, say, a cellphone. How many cellphones were on the market this year? Some people are willing to pay a premium for a product that is known to be good, without all the uncertainty and the shopping around, etc. My time is valuable and already has a lot of constraints on it. I just want to use the phone, and not have to answer to a lot of (annoying) arguments like "Why didn't you buy a StirrupoPhone T2100? It has higher camera resolution and is $50 cheaper." Also there is a critical mass around Apple products now that ensures they will be supported in the future. I can put my Zune right next to my HP2100 printer and my MS "virtual locker" in the pile of "cool, fairly expensive products that are now no longer supported because they made their money and then discarded their customers, over my protests"

    12. Re:Touch screen apps has come of age by Lodragandraoidh · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You forget their trump card - the Apple Newton's handwriting recognition software; Newton lovers for years have been calling for Apple to release the Newton OS (including the handwriting recognition embedded in it) into the wild to keep their beloved Newtons running on new hardware as the old machines expire. Apple continued to refuse on this issue.

      Enter the new tablet. As a result I am hoping and praying that the handwriting recognition on the thing will be a juiced up version of the auto-learning handwriting recognition software from the ancient Newton. Processing power and memory availability would make that work even better than it did ~20 years ago (when even given the limits of available processing power/memory it did an amazing job to learn/decode MOST people's scrawls).

      If that were the case, then it could very well serve as a writing instrument that could decode my scribbles. Add Iphone capability (accessed through a bluetooth headset), and I would pay for that - and use the hell out of it.

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    13. Re:Touch screen apps has come of age by bonch · · Score: 2, Informative

      Uh, complaints are negative observations.

      I like how you didn't refute his point about Slashdot's need to bash things as if it's some personal insult that the things exist in the first place. Remember the initial reaction around here to the iPod and iPod mini?

  6. I was considering one to replace my macbook by antifoidulus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    but if the rumors of it running the iPhone OS are true, I will pass. Not being able to easily load whatever software I want on to the thing is a big turnoff. Not to mention the class of programs that can run on the iPhone OS are pretty limited(I doubt Apple will release XCode for the tablet....)

    1. Re:I was considering one to replace my macbook by BodhiCat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ya, two things about the iphone that limit its usability: 1. small keyboard 2. lack of a good text editing program. The tablet could solve the keyboard problem by having a bigger screen, but if it doesn't have a good text editing program, then its just an iphone/ipod-touch that's too big to put in your pocket.

    2. Re:I was considering one to replace my macbook by antifoidulus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That and lack of flash support, love it or hate it, a lot of sites have yet to upgrade to html5 for video, so we are stuck with flash. Unless Apple has struck a deal with Adobe to allow flash on the tablet, there are going to be a lot of web sites that aren't accessible from the tablet.

    3. Re:I was considering one to replace my macbook by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Informative

      iPhone OS can mean a variety of things. It definitely means an ARM CPU, possibly from Apple's in-house team (I've not head much from PA Semi since Apple bought them). It doesn't necessarily mean UIKit-only. There's no technical reason why you can't run AppKit apps on an iPhone, Apple just chose not to include the framework. This was done for a couple of reasons, but the most important one was to force developers to redesign their UI for the small screen, not just recompile Mac apps and call them iPhone apps. With a tablet, this reason goes away, because the screen is larger, and it could easily handle full ports of Mac apps and iPhone apps. If they do include AppKit, then it becomes a third CPU to support for Mac developers, but if your code already runs on PowerPC and x86, then it's going to work on ARM with a straight recompile unless you use any inline assembly. Just tick the 'Tablet' box in the targets inspector in XCode and recompile.

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    4. Re:I was considering one to replace my macbook by SquirrelCrack · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Man up and learn Objective C

    5. Re:I was considering one to replace my macbook by egomaniac · · Score: 3, Informative

      It doesn't "definitely" mean an ARM processor any more than OS X "definitely" meant a PowerPC processor. OS X already runs on three different kinds of CPUs (ARM, PowerPC, and Intel), and it's certainly not impossible to imagine a fourth.

      Even most of the iPhone OS itself already runs just fine on Intel chips, as any developer with access to the iPhone Simulator knows. I run iPhone apps on Intel all the time (though admittedly it requires a recompile).

      Now, the new tablet will almost certainly run existing iPhone apps without modification, which either means an ARM CPU or a Rosetta-like technology to handle the emulation. I agree that the thing most likely has an ARM chip and will run existing apps natively. But we won't know for sure what chip it uses for a few more hours.

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  7. So... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Was the McGraw-Hill guy one of Apple's planned leaks, or is he going to start waking up, sweating bullets, to 3AM phone calls from Steve Jobs?

    "Terry, you have shown all the subtlety and restraint of somebody who sells dead trees for a living. Know that your pain shall be equalled only by my serenity."

    At this point the line goes dead. Terry will never know if this is because Steve is fucking with him, or if it is just AT&T's shitty service disconnecting Steve's iPhone.

    1. Re:So... by BitwizeGHC · · Score: 2, Funny

      You know how Obama got a special BlackBerry?

      Well, Steve gets a special iPhone.

      Talks to his own personal comms satellite. You can always hear him now.

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  8. overgrown iPhone / iPod Touch by WillAdams · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Givens:

      - upgraded iPhone OS
      - ARM or custom CPU
      - purchase content through iTunes
      - ebooks will be extensions of Apple's ``LP'' format so will be multi-media w/ HTML, CSS, and nice cover graphics / icons in the interface

    Possibilities:

      - handwriting recognition
      - stylus

    Not going to happen:

      - Intel chip
      - run Mac OS X apps

    William
    (who will be getting an Axiotron Modbook instead)

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    1. Re:overgrown iPhone / iPod Touch by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Apple is earning too much from the App Store

      I take it you missed yesterday where Apple disclosed in their financials that they don't make a profit from the app store directly, only through increased hardware sales?

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    2. Re:overgrown iPhone / iPod Touch by lordholm · · Score: 2, Informative

      The handwriting classifier tests I have seen (included a number of variants such as ANNs and SVM kernel machines), in general faired better than human beings on handwriting recognition.

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    3. Re:overgrown iPhone / iPod Touch by witherstaff · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I read that article and I took it to be a sort of hollywood accounting trick. I wonder if in the AT&T agreement they had to share a percentage of App store profits or something along that line?

  9. Call me a Cynic by COMON$ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    While I am excited about this device I theorize it will be just good enough to sell and give some ooo's and aaaahhh's but largely it will fall short of the mark so we can buy the next models. This is by design for good profitability. However I think that if Apple releases a less than complete product now, they risk the google netbook or another slate device stealing the market from them.

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  10. TV and Kindle Competitor by PackMan97 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My predictions: 1. TV Replacement - Built in HDTV antenna , will work with Apple TV or another wireless TV spec to stream TV directly to the tablet. Sure, we know about internet TV and hulu, but I'm talking over the air TV and live TV. Killer feature for something this size. 2. Kindle Competitor - My bet is a new display type that has a very low power ambient light setting that allows the screen to be as easy on the eyes as a Kindle or other eInk reader. So, while this will be a laptop/phone hybrid, it's really going to go after the TV/Paper publishing angle for it to have mass appeal. While it can surf the web and do general laptoppy/phone things...I see it as really something that's looking to create a new market and kill netbooks and eReaders all in one swoop.

  11. Best rumor source yet... by rayharris · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Jason Calacanis got his tablet 10 days ago

    http://twitter.com/jason

    Highlights:

    - $599, $699, $799 depending on size and memory
    - iPhone OS with multitasking
    - OLED screen (no size given)
    - Verizon and ATT for 3G, WiFi
    - Front and back cameras for video conferencing
    - Thumbpad on each side for mouse gestures
    - Fingerprint scanner for login with up to five profiles
    - TV/Monitor output and wireless keyboard
    - HDTV Tuner with PVR
    - Solar panel for recharging (more a gimmick)
    - Battery life is "great" in ebook mode, 2-3 hours otherwise
    - No word on name

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    1. Re:Best rumor source yet... by Low+Ranked+Craig · · Score: 3, Funny

      Bio: "I'm a cereal entrepreneur: Founder of Weblogs, Inc., TechCrunch50, Silicon Alley Reporter, Engadget & Mahalo.com"

      Mmmm. cereal.

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  12. Rumors? Bah by darjen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I just don't care much for all this speculation and rumors. Waste of time in my book. Wait for the device to come out and judge it on its merits.

  13. Re:Staying with Paper by Cronock · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Paper books can be great for many things. I'm not a fiction reader at all, but I have tons of educational/instructional books for my certifications and hobbies. These books get outdated quickly and have overflowed my bookshelf. I really hate the idea of throwing away $50+ books. I would love to get these electronically and be able to archive them and mostly forget about them, but still have them in the event that I'd have to go back and relearn something from years ago. Doing that without having 125lb boxes in storage in the garage would be a nice advantage. And anyone who moves a lot knows the feeling of dread you get when you reach the "Books Very Heavy!" box.

  14. Major Scoop by GraZZ · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apple will today announce a partnership with Taco Bell to deliver tacos wirelessly through the new iTablet. This will prove to be the final nail in OLPC's coffin as the west moves to end world hunger via electronic food distribution.

    Also it will wash the dishes.

    1. Re:Major Scoop by JakeD409 · · Score: 5, Funny

      The folks modding this "Informative" are in for a major disappointment.

  15. Re:Staying with Paper by genghisjahn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I love books. I love the old books smell. I love (or loved) going through used books stores and finding good stuff. After having a Kindle, I wish all of my content was on the Kindle. Having it all sync from the Kindle, to the PC, to the iPhone is freakin' great. Yes, I know some of you have DRM concerns. Yes they are valid, but I'm talking about the eReader vs. paper as a medium. I don't care about the medium anymore. There is nothing sacred about the pages of a bound book. It's the story or information that I want and the Kindle environment provides it better. When my Kindle was stolen a few weeks back, I didn't lose all my content. All my notes, highlights and books were available on my iPhone and through the PC. When I replaced the Kindle, everything came right back. It's not a perfect device, but it's a damn good one. I'm eager to see what the arms race in eReaders provides in the future.

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  16. Re:Patience by Eponymous+Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why hurry? For some people, it's fun.

    How about a bad analogy? Compare it to the superbowl. Why speculate on how the game will go or even bother watching it? It will be over soon and you can just find out the score.

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  18. Re:I'll wait for a clone by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    An Apple tablet would certainly be bad news for them; but they might have a future among people who want OSX in tablet form.

    Unless Steve Jobs accidentally mind-melds with Richard Stallman in the next hour or so, the tablet is almost certainly going to be a hard-locked app-store only product. Further, the odds that it is x86 are somewhere between slim and none, and slim is bleeding to death.

    If most of Axiotron's customers were more or less casual users who just had to have an Apple tablet for some reason, they are completely fucked. If, though, they are substantially people who want to be able to draw directly on the screen in photoshop, or otherwise do full OSX stuff in tablet form, they might survive.

  19. Ribbon might be a bad example by tepples · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Microsoft bungs hundreds of millions at "usability" & we end up with the stupid ribbon

    I'm not convinced that "the stupid ribbon" is the best example of your thesis. Perhaps it is easier for novices to learn a program's tabbed toolbar than a program's menu bar. For one thing, recasting a pull-down menu as a toolbar keeps a class of actions on the screen where the user can see them rather than overlapping the document and disappearing once the user chooses an action. As I understand it, most of the whining about Ribbon came from 1. people who rely on muscle memory from previous versions of the product, the same sort of people who would get confused between Microsoft Office and OpenOffice.org anyway, and 2. people concerned about the legal fees of putting up prior art from 2002 to invalidate the patents that Microsoft engineers were applying for over tabbed toolbars. Sure, Ribbon has room for improvement, but it took a couple iterations for Apple to get pull-down menus right too.

    1. Re:Ribbon might be a bad example by oji-sama · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It definitely is not stupid. I've used the old version too much and can't really say I like it, but my mother (very much non-tech) got a new(ish) laptop and was very happy that 'the new Windows had this toolbar that makes things easy'. Took a while to understand that she was talking about the ribbon in Office...

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    2. Re:Ribbon might be a bad example by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Microsoft bungs hundreds of millions at "usability" & we end up with the stupid ribbon

      I'm not convinced that "the stupid ribbon" is the best example of your thesis. Perhaps it is easier for novices to learn a program's tabbed toolbar than a program's menu bar. For one thing, recasting a pull-down menu as a toolbar keeps a class of actions on the screen where the user can see them rather than overlapping the document and disappearing once the user chooses an action. As I understand it, most of the whining about Ribbon came from 1. people who rely on muscle memory from previous versions of the product, the same sort of people who would get confused between Microsoft Office and OpenOffice.org anyway, and 2. people concerned about the legal fees of putting up prior art from 2002 to invalidate the patents that Microsoft engineers were applying for over tabbed toolbars. Sure, Ribbon has room for improvement, but it took a couple iterations for Apple to get pull-down menus right too.

      To be honest I think the problem Microsoft has is that if it doesn't actively look different, people won't see it as a new version, so they won't pay for it again. I know this from programs I've written - if you make changes customers can't see, they're very unwilling to pay for them, even if they make significant improvements to speed, usability, stability or something else important to the customer. Word 2007 really isn't any better than the previous version - it isn't more reliable, it doesn't have any useful new features. Why should anyone who has the existing version pay for the new one?

      Because it looks different. They can see it has changed. It doesn't matter that this burdens them with new training costs for no actual benefit: they can see it's new, and, therefore, must be improved.

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  20. iJust by Jhon · · Score: 3, Funny

    iWish iCould iFford iOne.

  21. My prediction by ScottForbes · · Score: 4, Funny

    It'll have a stylus and handwriting recognition, and they're calling it the "Newton."

  22. Tablet PCs by MaWeiTao · · Score: 2, Interesting

    One thing that we can be sure of is that Apple is going to tout this tablet like they've invented this type device. The people at Apple are smart in that they aren't early adopters of new technologies. Others do it first and run into the issues anyone will face with technology in it's infancy. The segments of the market generally starts petering out as those guys move onto devices and that's when Apple jumps in.

    It helps immensely that developing both hardware and software Apple has the huge advantage of good integration. With every other hardware maker they have to go with whatever is available at the time. The software developers, mainly Microsoft and Google have to partner with a hardware company. That almost always consists of an existing product being customized to their needs. Unfortunately this always results in a compromised product. There's nothing like being able to do everything in-house with teams working back and forth.

    I have a Sony tablet PC, which I got second-hand. It's the U70 if I'm not mistaken. It came out back in 04 or so, when PC makers were eager to push the technology. It runs Windows XP and performs reasonably well actually. Unfortunately, these things were mainly hindered by the OS. Instead of developing a customized OS to enhance usability they were basically making them full-fledged PCs but more compact. This generally made them a pain to operate. I suppose it was just a sign of the times, because although Sony offered various on-screen input methods the keyboard was generally not given much on-screen real estate. They were still expecting users to interact with the device using a stylus. The touchscreen itself was good but certainly doesn't compare with what is possible with the technology today. The upside was that I could connect a monitor and keyboard to the thing and use it like a regular PC.

    The device was a novelty, as a tablet today is for most people. Mine sits around collecting dust most of the time. However, for a couple of weeks I used it when I was traveling and it was great. That's where the compact size is a real asset. Being able to pull that thing out and start browsing the web is excellent. And the good thing is that because it's a PC, basically, I get a proper browsing experience and can do anything I might need to do at home or in the office. It's not a compromised experience like Smartphones provide. However, the lack of a physical keyboard is a problem if you expect to do a lot of typing with the device. I'm sure touchscreen technology has improved to the point where typing on-screen is a bit better than it used to be, but it probably still won't be great. Some of the newer Sony tablets use integrated physical keyboards, but I'm not sure if those are any good.

    The fact is, if you've got an iPhone, which most people interested in this tablet likely do, there's little need for this device. If this thing is running a version of the iPhone's OS then there's even less use for it. In my opinion a tablet should be a more portable alternative to a laptop, not a big brother to a mobile phone. Otherwise I expect these things to collect a lot of dust. I don't use my tablet PC for much of anything nowadays; I've installed automotive diagnostics software on it and even that doesn't get much use.

  23. Confirmed! by LeonPierre · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have it on the authority of no less than 5 people closely related to the project that the new device will do no less than end world hunger, rebuild 3rd world nations, fix the energy crisis and the economy, and help those poor drowning polar bears whose homes have melted away....

    But this next piece of information you will not hear from any reputable website, as they are too afraid to publish it:

    It will do no less than make unicorns shit rainbows

    You can quote me on that.

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