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Apple's "iPad" Out In the Open

Reader oxide7 is one of the many to note that the heaviest speculation is mostly over (still waiting on the price, though) about Apple's anticipated new device (though there are surely plenty of questions about the device's hardware capabilities and the scope of its software and content marketplace): "At an event in San Francisco Apple released its anticipated iPad.'[It's] Way better than a laptop, way better then a phone. You can turn it any way you want. To see the whole page is phenomenal,' said Jobs." The (0.5") skinny: 1.5 lbs, multitouch, up to 64GB of flash, 9.7" screen, and a 1Ghz "Apple A4" chip (more about the A4 in Engadget's developing story). The iPad is closer in concept to an expanded iPhone (OS and all) than a miniaturized laptop, though it doesn't have quite as much connectivity as you might expect, with no 3G connection built in. (You'll have to make do with 802.11n, Bluetooth, and tethering.) Live coverage is ongoing at gdgt live, Engadget, and Gizmodo, as well as various others. Update by timothy, 19:58 GMT: Got the 3G part wrong; 3G is indeed an option. Prices run from $499 (16GB flash, WiFi but no 3G) to $829 (WiFi and 3G, 64GB flash). Should start shipping in 60 days (WiFi only), in 90 days for 3G. Surprsingly, no built-in camera.

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  1. Re:No flash support by mdm-adph · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yep, this picture (http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0128-rm-eng.jpg) pretty much spells it out.

    The fact that they didn't even try to hide this during their usually precise demo of the product is surprising.

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  2. Re:Is that an OLED screen? by MoonBuggy · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's LCD. IPS, to be specific.

  3. Re:No WCMDA/HSPA or even CDMA/EVDO is a huge miss by mdm-adph · · Score: 3, Informative

    Just buy a Verizon mifi and tape the fucking thing to the back, jesus christ. It's big enough.

    Problem solved.

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  4. Re:No flash support by LaminatorX · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think it likely has as much to do with the impact of Flash's unquenchable thirst for CPU cycles on battery life.

  5. Re:No WCMDA/HSPA or even CDMA/EVDO is a huge miss by slimjim8094 · · Score: 3, Informative

    they do have 3g. just announced

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  6. Error in the article by garg0yle · · Score: 5, Informative

    "There will be models with 3G support" according to Steve Jobs, so saying that it doesn't support 3G is just a bit, um, wrong.

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    1. Re:Error in the article by SwabTheDeck · · Score: 5, Informative

      Details:

      AT&T (per usual)
      $15/mo for 250 MB or$30/mo for unlimited
      Free use of AT&T Wi-Fi hotspots
      Uses GSM Micro SIMs and will work with any GSM provider that has these cards, all models are "unlocked" and not bound to a carrier

  7. 3G Data Plans by rotide · · Score: 3, Informative

    Notes from watching streaming event.

    3G Wireless w/AT&T

    $14.99 for up to 250 MB per month

    $29.99 for unlimited per month

    Discuss?

  8. Re:Extra things you'll need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    But it doesn't.

    I use a 1.2ghz Pentium M tablet PC running XP tablet edition (Less than $350 with a new battery). Why? because I can annotate PDF files, take notes with one note (PLEASE we need a OSS version of that app) and then at the end of the meeting I can simply email all of it via my corperate email. Those two apps are the killer apps most people that use a tablet professionally need. I can annotate the customers blueprints and send them and engineering a copy, Plus my notes in one note are easy to organize. All on something that costs less than this thing will even in it's el-cheapo form.

  9. Re:price? by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Informative

    Nope.

    Wi-fi versions are $499, $599, $699 for 16/32/64GB versions, respectively.

    3G versions are $629, $729, $829, respectively.

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  10. Re:No flash support by jo_ham · · Score: 5, Informative

    Youtube serves up an H.264 version of the video to your iPhone. Not all videos are converted yet (google is massively numbercrunching behind the scenes to convert older ones). If the phone meets a video with no H.264 version it just says "cannot display movie at this time" or something like that.

    You can use ClickToFlash on Safari in 10.6 to tell the Youtube site to serve the H.264 iPhone version to your browser instead of the flash version too - much nicer.

  11. Re:Extra things you'll need by sopssa · · Score: 3, Informative

    Exactly. Apparently this one costs $499. And it doesn't even have 3G (afraid of Nokia's patents?). Thats a major letdown for me, as I have cheap unlimited 3g and it would be perfect with a thing like this.

    And the device is completely closed down like iPhone - if you want apps, you need to buy them from App Store.

    I was waiting for the announcement, but meh. Not for me. I'll just wait for Courier.

  12. Re:What is the point? by Piquan · · Score: 3, Informative

    I wonder if it could work with a Bluetooth keyboard

    There's a dockable keyboard.

  13. http://www.apple.com/ipad/ by Singularity42 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not seeing it on the front page, but it's all up here.

  14. multiple SIM cards by pydev · · Score: 5, Informative

    I know this comes as a surprise to US users, but in many countries, you get multiple SIM cards on the same contract for no or little extra money. Put one in your phone, one in your reader, one in your laptop, etc. Nice, eh?

  15. Re:price? by Man+On+Pink+Corner · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's unlocked, which means it's unsubsidized. The 3G data plan is pretty cheap.

  16. Re:price? by cabjf · · Score: 3, Informative

    I bet AT&T is getting a cut from every 3G unit sold in exchange for the availability of a cheap, non-contract data plan. Plus, I get the wifi-only version doesn't have a sim card, so it's not just the 3G antenna being added for 130 dollars; it's also the sim card and associated hardware.

  17. Re:No flash support by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 4, Informative

    I highly doubt Hulu or anyone else will ever support H264.

    You mean except for the fact that Hulu currently does use H.264? Same with youtube?

    From Hulu's about page:

    Leveraging the H.264 capability of the new Flash Player

  18. Re:Doesn't Create a Need by prockcore · · Score: 3, Informative

    I think this may be a shot across the bough of netbooks rather than smartphones or laptops.

    My wife's netbook is half the price of the cheapest iPad, and it can play Hulu and Netflix Instant View.

  19. Re:Is that an OLED screen? by DJRumpy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here are the full specs: http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/

  20. Re:Multi-tasking by prockcore · · Score: 5, Informative

    It doesn't.

  21. With that weak processor? by Overzeetop · · Score: 3, Informative

    No, Jobs won't allow his new baby to stutter, and multi-tasking is just asking for a less brilliant user experience. 1GHz on an ARM is going to be necessarily limited in horsepower, and dividing that between several apps is going to lead to poor input response. Besides, he doesn't want to hear you complaining that your 10 hour iPad only lasts for 2 hours because you left your folding-at-home app running in the background. :-)

    I'm kind of amazed it doesn't have a gps. Google maps is going to suck.

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  22. Re:True by proslack · · Score: 4, Informative

    Where Apple spent it's money last year: Operating expenses: Research and development 1,333,000,000 Selling, general and administrative 4,149,000,000 Notice that they spent about three times as much convincing you to buy stuff as they did designing it...

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  23. Re:gay by cheesybagel · · Score: 5, Informative
    Minuses:
    • no camera
    • no USB ports, I/O is done via the same horrible iPhone connector you have know and hate
    • VGA out requires using an adapter
    • card reader requires an adapter
    • no Ethernet port
    • no Adobe Flash
    • more expensive than a $399 netbook or CULV which has all the above, not to mention more memory and storage space
    • need to use Apple store

    Pluses:

    • Apple Office suite
    • light
    • not horribly expensive
  24. Re:No flash support by DangerFace · · Score: 4, Informative

    Dude, H.264 is proprietary, and that's what Apple want as part of the HTML5 specs. Also, it's what the Youtube et al HTML5 betas are running.

  25. Re:What is the point? by exomondo · · Score: 4, Informative

    better resolution that iPhone

    Actually it has a WORSE resolution than the iPhone (132ppi Vs 163ppi), the screen is just bigger, but not as sharp.

  26. Re:What is the point? by joost · · Score: 3, Informative

    The problem is, iTunes on the iPhone OS really, really sucks for listening to podcasts. You can only download podcasts that happen to be in the iTunes store. There's no way to just enter an RSS feed.

    Advanced > Subscribe to podcast... > enter RSS url.

    Next question?

  27. Re:True by PAKnightPA · · Score: 4, Informative

    Your comment is very misleading: Sales, General and Administrative is not merely marketing expenses. It includes, among other things, the salaries of everyone at the company (thus the word general) and numerous other expenses. Therefore it is not accurate to use SG&A as a substitute for marketing costs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SG%26A

  28. You're kidding, right? by Overzeetop · · Score: 3, Informative

    $130 is the standard price for just about any 3G add on to a netbook/laptop (at least that's what Dell charges, and I think that may be only with a plan purchase). $4/GB for a reliable SSD seems to be about retail, about $3/GB at discount, Dell charges $5.10/GB for an SSD in their laptops. This is closer to $6.75/GB. Not really a huge premium over another integrator, given that this is a "hot" product.

    You should be. indeed, be modded down as troll. I'm about the last person you'd find defending Apple, but the pricing really isn't far off from what should be expected. Feel free to argue about how annoying it is that you can't add the memory yourself, or change he battery, or that they didn't bother to include 3G/GPS out of the box. You could say they did, and for less than the rumored $999. They just offered a cheap, stripped down version like Dell does. You know, for the metrosexuals who are out of a job right now.

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  29. Re:What is the point? by fsiefken · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hi Joost, you confuse the iTunes for iPhone with iTunes for OSX or Windows. Subscribe to rss url is not possible in iTunes for iPhone or iPod.