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Nexus One Update Fixes 3G, Adds Multitouch

snydeq writes "Google is pushing out an update for the Nexus One that will fix a 3G connectivity problem and add limited support for multitouch. After receiving over 1,500 messages in a support forum from people complaining about trouble connecting to 3G, Google said it has identified the problem and has started delivering the fix. In addition to fixing 3G, the update adds the first applications to support multitouch. While the recent versions of the Android OS include multitouch capability, no phone in the US has supported it."

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  1. Come on Google by goldaryn · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm still waiting for the port of IE6..

    1. Re:Come on Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
      Parent is making a joke guys. They are actually stepping up the IE6 hunt at the moment, look at this email I got yesterday

      Dear Google Apps admin,​

      In order to continue to improve our products and deliver more sophisticated features and performance, we are harnessing some of the latest improvements in web browser technology. This includes faster JavaScript processing and new standards like HTML5. As a result, over the course of 2010, we will be phasing out support for Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0 as well as other older browsers that are not supported by their own manufacturers.

      We plan to begin phasing out support of these older browsers on the Google Docs suite and the Google Sites editor on March 1, 2010. After that point, certain functionality within these applications may have higher latency and may not work correctly in these older browsers. Later in 2010, we will start to phase out support for these browsers for Google Mail and Google Calendar.

      Google Apps will continue to support Internet Explorer 7.0 and above, Firefox 3.0 and above, Google Chrome 4.0 and above, and Safari 3.0 and above.

      Starting this week, users on these older browsers will see a message in Google Docs and the Google Sites editor explaining this change and asking them to upgrade their browser. We will also alert you again closer to March 1 to remind you of this change.

      In 2009, the Google Apps team delivered more than 100 improvements to enhance your product experience. We are aiming to beat that in 2010 and continue to deliver the best and most innovative collaboration products for businesses.

      Thank you for your continued support!

  2. multitouch and Apple by sourcerror · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've heard rumors, that the zooming gesture won't be officially supported, because it would violate Apple patents. Does anyone know anything about that?

    1. Re:multitouch and Apple by ViViDboarder · · Score: 3, Informative

      Rumors only so far. Apple hasn't sued Palm for it.

    2. Re:multitouch and Apple by tacroy · · Score: 5, Informative

      Mainly because Apple is violating tons of Palms patents and they don't want to wake that (IP) giant. http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/28/apple-vs-palm-the-in-depth-analysis/

    3. Re:multitouch and Apple by Senjutsu · · Score: 2, Funny

      Perhaps, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they aren't infringing

      Yeah, I'm sure Apple's notoriously aggressive legal division is just being nice to Palm /sarcasm

    4. Re:multitouch and Apple by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe they're using Palm as a decoy. "C'mon Google. Dive on in. The water's fine...!" "Can we shoot them now?" "Wait for it. Waaaaait for it..."

    5. Re:multitouch and Apple by unix1 · · Score: 5, Informative

      That's because they know they'll lose.

      Here's Apple's "multi-touch" patent.
      Date filed: July 3, 2006

      Here's Jeff Han demonstrating multi-touch interface in Feb. 2006 that he had been working on. Pinch and zoom? Gestures? Multiple fingers/hands? It's all there. You can tell he didn't come up with that overnight.

      Looks like someone at Apple noticed his or similar technology/research and said - hey, this hasn't been patented yet!

      Give props to the USPTO and the patent system, as usual.

    6. Re:multitouch and Apple by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Let's see...

      Palm has US Patent #7,268,775 for dymanic screen brightness and #7,231,208 for managing a phone call. Those are from the article that tacroy mentioned.

      But also, remember that Palm has been making mobile devices since 1992. I'm sure they've got patents on quite a few things that Apple is using.

    7. Re:multitouch and Apple by Meski · · Score: 5, Funny

      They're using this gesture, in response to Apple patents. http://media.photobucket.com/image/middle%20finger/munbk/middle_finger.jpg?o=1

    8. Re:multitouch and Apple by sleeping143 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If Palm believes their patents are so strong, why didn't they just go ahead and sue?

      Because mutually assured destruction is only an acceptable business strategy if neither company fires the first shot.

  3. Whoops! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    All the iPhone fanboys based all their criticism on the lack of multitouch. Now they've got nothing to stand on.

  4. 3G by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 4, Funny

    The good news is, Google has fixed the 3G problems. The bad news is, the fix is going out via the 3G network.

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    1. Re:3G by geekoid · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I worked at a place that had an automated system that sent out an email when the email went down.
      I shit you not. They paid 50K for that system.
      When the email system ent down, as they alld o from time to time, the executive called me out on the rug in front of his peers and asked me:

      "Why shouldn't I fire you for the system alert failure?"
      To which I said:
      "You were the person that bought a system to alert us via email when the email system failed. Maybe you should be fired?"
      Later he came to my office and fired me. After he smugly said I was fired, I asked him to wait a minute. I picked up the phone, made one phone call, and had a new job. I got up, took my check and left. Everyone else in the office was just laughing.
      I later heard that the executive was released to look into other opportunities.

      1999 was a good year.
      Crazy days

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  5. HTC Hero by Kotoku · · Score: 2, Informative

    My Sprint HTC Hero phone uses multi-touch in the browser. Same pinch gestures the iPod Touch had me accustomed to. :)

  6. Re:3G Fix? by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, those geniuses at google, wrote a piece of software that rerouted power form the rear deflectors to modulate the refresh rate of the lcd screen to emit an interference signal that modifies the TMobile compatible 3G signal from 1700 MHz for download and 2100 MHz for upload to the A&TT frequency of 1900 MHz. I'm just not sure what they're going to do to handle the excess tachyon radiation pressure on the the glass.

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  7. Re:OLD News by geekoid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Shut. Up.

    No one cares, and not everyone is on top of every single tech story ever single day. /. is no exception. In fact the whole concept is to talk abouit event in the news, so naturally you read about it after it has been in the news.
    This has always been the case....except for spoiling TV shows, THAT they put on the front page immediately after it showing regardless of time zones.

    Bastards.

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  8. So my droid that does multitouch by Liquidrage · · Score: 4, Funny

    doesn't support multitouch? Should I stop doing it then?

    1. Re:So my droid that does multitouch by diamondsw · · Score: 3, Informative

      Your Droid doesn't do multitouch in any of the Google-provided applications. This is especially evident in the web browser, maps, and keyboard. Third party apps have been able to provide multitouch for some time.

      I thought the whole thing was silly. Patenting pinch-to-zoom and similar gestures fails the "non-obvious" requirement for a patent. Multitouch enhancing a keyboard I could perhaps see as valid.

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    2. Re:So my droid that does multitouch by Liquidrage · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I know very well what it does. The problem is when poorly written summaries or articles that imply that the phone doesn't support it. Saying, "the default browser will now support it" is a much better, and accurate, way to phrase it.

  9. It really did help. by Mark19960 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't care for the multitouch thing..... I liked the old way and will use the old way..
    As far as 3G it's much more stable on 3G and on EDGE as well.
    I only get EDGE at home because I am at the end of 3G coverage and EDGE is actually much faster than it was.
    So, whatever they changed in the radio firmware improved both.
    Everything seems to move a little faster as well, so no complaints.
    I got my OTA update last night.

  10. Re:LOL. Or you could just buy an iPhone! by Liquidrage · · Score: 4, Interesting

    FYI

    The voice searching is better integrated with android. The free turn by turn navigation is better then the $100 version on the iPhone. It can do multitasking. It doesn't lock you out of basic system functionality.

    And the android market is booming and going to pass apple's in total apps pretty soon. Not that I really care. There's already an "app for that' on both marketplaces. The once difference is there's things android will let you do that apple won't. So really, there's an "app for that" applies better to android.

    Not sure where you opinion came from, but it's not reality.

  11. Summary is Wrong About Multitouch by MBoffin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No surprise, but the summary is wrong. True, there has been multitouch capability in recent versions of Android, but not true that no phones in the US support it. Even my HTC Hero (running Android 1.5) has multitouch built into the basic system apps like the browser and the gallery. Additionally there are apps on the marketplace that make use of multitouch, such as the Dolphin browser.

    The summary should indicate that no other phones have previously had multitouch built into the system apps that Google ships with the stock OS.

  12. Re:LOL. Or you could just buy an iPhone! by Lifyre · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Just out of curiostiy have you managed to put you iPhone down long enough to USE an Android phone? I bought my Eris less than a month ago and fail to see any validity to your position that isn't caused by the App not the OS. Of course I have a faster CPU than the iPhone 3GS, a replaceable battery, and can switch back and forth between 3G and 1x seemlessly (something the iPhone fails at consistently with Edge and 3G). Does the iPhone have an SD (or other) slot yet?

    Of course Google now owns a little bit more of my soul but at least they don't force me to put blinders on.

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  13. Re:3G Fix? by CaptKeen · · Score: 5, Informative

    It does make me wonder if it would just be cost prohibitively expensive to put in a radio that supports ALL used frequency band ranges. That way, you have a phone that will truly work on any network, with any provider, without having to buy a new handset.

    I've heard rumor of a Qualcomm chip due out this summer that is supposed to support GSM, HSPA, HSPA+ and some CDMA stuff. A quick google turned up the following:

    Qualcomm today updated its MDM family of cellular chipsets with some of the first anywhere to support dual, advanced 3G and 4G formats. The MSM7630 supports GSM, HSPA and HSPA+ standards but will also work on CDMA phone networks and support up to EVDO Revision B for 3G on those services. The addition would let a phone work on a CDMA carrier like Sprint or Verizon but still work with AT&T or T-Mobile and roam at speeds of up to 21Mbps on networks from Rogers, other international carriers, and eventually T-Mobile USA.

    From http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/11/12/possible.verizon.iphone.candidates/

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  14. Re:LOL. Or you could just buy an iPhone! by Wyvern2005 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not sure if it's PURE 2.1 android..but the Cyanogenmod has at least some healthy chunks of it. Wonderful ROM..works like a Dre...well, you get the picture:) He's also got a ROM out for the Nexus. You do have to root, and you do have to be able to READ all the info FIRST. If you can do that, and follow directions, it's easy. I love my G1..and I'm on AT&T..so I'm taking a speed hit (2G, not 3G). When do we get a faster processer AND a physical keyboard?

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