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Nexus One Update Fixes 3G, Adds Multitouch
snydeq writes "Google is pushing out an update for the Nexus One that will fix a 3G connectivity problem and add limited support for multitouch. After receiving over 1,500 messages in a support forum from people complaining about trouble connecting to 3G, Google said it has identified the problem and has started delivering the fix. In addition to fixing 3G, the update adds the first applications to support multitouch. While the recent versions of the Android OS include multitouch capability, no phone in the US has supported it."
I'm still waiting for the port of IE6..
I've heard rumors, that the zooming gesture won't be officially supported, because it would violate Apple patents. Does anyone know anything about that?
The radio doesn't support AT&T's 3G range. So, nope.
All the iPhone fanboys based all their criticism on the lack of multitouch. Now they've got nothing to stand on.
The good news is, Google has fixed the 3G problems. The bad news is, the fix is going out via the 3G network.
Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
Sorry, forgot /sarcasm on that post.
Why is it so hot? Where am I going? What am I doing in this handbasket?
My Sprint HTC Hero phone uses multi-touch in the browser. Same pinch gestures the iPod Touch had me accustomed to. :)
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Yes, those geniuses at google, wrote a piece of software that rerouted power form the rear deflectors to modulate the refresh rate of the lcd screen to emit an interference signal that modifies the TMobile compatible 3G signal from 1700 MHz for download and 2100 MHz for upload to the A&TT frequency of 1900 MHz. I'm just not sure what they're going to do to handle the excess tachyon radiation pressure on the the glass.
Well.. maybe. Or Maybe not. But Definitely not sort of.
Shut. Up.
No one cares, and not everyone is on top of every single tech story ever single day. /. is no exception. In fact the whole concept is to talk abouit event in the news, so naturally you read about it after it has been in the news.
This has always been the case....except for spoiling TV shows, THAT they put on the front page immediately after it showing regardless of time zones.
Bastards.
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doesn't support multitouch? Should I stop doing it then?
I don't care for the multitouch thing..... I liked the old way and will use the old way..
As far as 3G it's much more stable on 3G and on EDGE as well.
I only get EDGE at home because I am at the end of 3G coverage and EDGE is actually much faster than it was.
So, whatever they changed in the radio firmware improved both.
Everything seems to move a little faster as well, so no complaints.
I got my OTA update last night.
FYI
The voice searching is better integrated with android. The free turn by turn navigation is better then the $100 version on the iPhone. It can do multitasking. It doesn't lock you out of basic system functionality.
And the android market is booming and going to pass apple's in total apps pretty soon. Not that I really care. There's already an "app for that' on both marketplaces. The once difference is there's things android will let you do that apple won't. So really, there's an "app for that" applies better to android.
Not sure where you opinion came from, but it's not reality.
I'm really pleased with my Acer Liquid, it has almost the same hardware (some processor) as the Nexus One and costed half, of what it would have costed me, to import the Nexus One in my country. But perhaps I underestimated the value of the phone not being a Google Experience phone. Acer has just released the kernel for the Liquid, but they have not given any good configs and have generelly done everything they can, to make it difficult to put custom roms on the Liquid. I would really want to have Android 2.1 on the Liquid, it has 1.6 now. I was sure that it would be no problem getting newer versions of Android on this phone, but with Acer trying to limit the community efforts, perhaps it will never happen. :(
The phone is still nice though, but the uninstallable programs that Acer has put on the phone are redicules and annoying! You can root it and remove some of them, but I would really like just having the stock Android instead!
Next time, Im gonna go for a Google Experience phone!
Just curious, what do they mean when saying that other US phones don't support the multitouch?
I own an HTC Droid Eris, and it seems to have a bunch of apps that support multitouch, and I actively utilize it. Is there something more that I am missing out here when they say that no other phones support the Android OS multitouch?
Troll much?
There are 500 apps on the apple store that do the same thing.
It's not as bad on the android market but anything you can find on the apple store I can probably find something that does the same thing on the android market.
Oh.. let's see I already did this with someone I know, matching apps on the apple store with the android market.... aww shucks.
For all of his paid for apps I found free ones to boot....
No surprise, but the summary is wrong. True, there has been multitouch capability in recent versions of Android, but not true that no phones in the US support it. Even my HTC Hero (running Android 1.5) has multitouch built into the basic system apps like the browser and the gallery. Additionally there are apps on the marketplace that make use of multitouch, such as the Dolphin browser.
The summary should indicate that no other phones have previously had multitouch built into the system apps that Google ships with the stock OS.
You do realise that the Iphone is a niche phone too?</Nokia user>
And yes, Nokia and everyone else were doing those features long before Apple joined the party late.
Just out of curiostiy have you managed to put you iPhone down long enough to USE an Android phone? I bought my Eris less than a month ago and fail to see any validity to your position that isn't caused by the App not the OS. Of course I have a faster CPU than the iPhone 3GS, a replaceable battery, and can switch back and forth between 3G and 1x seemlessly (something the iPhone fails at consistently with Edge and 3G). Does the iPhone have an SD (or other) slot yet?
Of course Google now owns a little bit more of my soul but at least they don't force me to put blinders on.
I'll meet you at the intersection of "Should be" and "Reality"
It does make me wonder if it would just be cost prohibitively expensive to put in a radio that supports ALL used frequency band ranges. That way, you have a phone that will truly work on any network, with any provider, without having to buy a new handset.
I've heard rumor of a Qualcomm chip due out this summer that is supposed to support GSM, HSPA, HSPA+ and some CDMA stuff. A quick google turned up the following:
Qualcomm today updated its MDM family of cellular chipsets with some of the first anywhere to support dual, advanced 3G and 4G formats. The MSM7630 supports GSM, HSPA and HSPA+ standards but will also work on CDMA phone networks and support up to EVDO Revision B for 3G on those services. The addition would let a phone work on a CDMA carrier like Sprint or Verizon but still work with AT&T or T-Mobile and roam at speeds of up to 21Mbps on networks from Rogers, other international carriers, and eventually T-Mobile USA.
From http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/11/12/possible.verizon.iphone.candidates/
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It's only the same as all the flip side arguments about blatantly false or pure opinion-posted-as-fact from people who hate the iPhone.
The truth is, of course, somewhere in the middle.
I'm amused that it took them so long to fix problems with Google's Flagship, but I can't say I'm suprised.
Bought a G1 last March. Couldn't have been happier with it, until the 1.6 update. Afterward everything got slower, I would not recieve calls despite having full signal, be unable to place calls either. Rebooting the phone would fix the problem, but only very temporarily.
2 Replacement Phones with the same problem later they were still insisting the problem wasn't with the firmware. I wound up having to file an FCC and BBB Complaint to get released without an ETF, T-Mobile's 'solution' was to charge me the contract price on a new phone.
This is all relavant, because, well, As soon as I saw the first story on the Nexus one problems, I was not one bit suprised. Call it a matter of opinion but based on what I've seen I get the feeling something got whacked somewhere in the baseband package's firmware/drivers.
This problem gets difficult to detect, however, when the end users are so incompetent that they don't understand that their phone shouldn't be freezing up the way it is. I'm still waiting to see if Samsung screws up the moment yet. (It still seems to be functional, albiet running on 1.5. If it survives the 2.x update I'll trust it.) But as it stands my experience with Android led me to hope for the best as far as WinMo 7. If there's one feeling I got from Android, it was that it was 'beta,' and to be blunt you shouln't play beta with phones you're selling to people.
excess tachyon radiation pressure on the the glass.
You know, it's hard to take you seriously when you make such obvious grammatical errors.
How can I believe you when you tell me what I don't want to hear?
Multitouch enhancing a keyboard I could perhaps see as valid.
That's where Apple got the technology from.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FingerWorks
I would have loved to have bought one, but IIRC, the cost was around US$370, and that was well out of my price range.
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I was almost buying this until I saw "A&TT". At least you spelled the unit MHz correctly unlike my local utility that spells kWh as "KwH".
Sorry, but gray text on gray background is making my eyes bleed.
The only issue hardware wise I have with the Nexus One, is that it doesn't have a physical keypad. I got the G1 when it came out because I was already on T-Mobile, and the software platform is much more open. When the followup to the Droid or N1 come out available on T-Mobile with a Physical keypad, I'm planning on getting one. As to the iPhone, I have the same issues that stopped me from getting an N1, or a Droid. 1. no physical keypad. 2. I have no intention of switching carriers. Add to that the fact that I don't want an app store, or platform that says I can't install what *I* want.
Then again I'm not most people. Also, I wouldn't even compare any Windows Mobile phone to a Droid or N1 in terms of usability. I haven't used an N900, but have used/played with iPhone and iPod Touch devices.
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I have an iphone. I live in a major city. Its using Edge 50% of the time and about 20% of the time I use 3G, I get a long pause, then it drops to EDGE. If you think only tmobile and Nexus have reception issues then youre pretty ignorant of how smartphones work and shouldnt be giving advice to anyone.
Not interested.
I can't stand Telstra but they do unfortunately have the best network. I believe this is due to some kind of lack of 850mhz or something option on the phone.
The vast majority of business's use Telstra in this country too.
Right. There's a thing called a droid. And a thing called a Nexus one. You should try either of them before writing that. Oh, they happen to be the only phones (as of now) running 2.0+
A droid and an iPhone have similar hardware except the droid screen blows the iPhone screen out of the water. It isn't in close. And the Nexus one has superior hardware in almost every way.
I disagree; I think its hard to take me seriously, period.
Well.. maybe. Or Maybe not. But Definitely not sort of.
The Droid does have a physical keyboard. The Motorola Milestone is a GSM version of the Droid, but I doubt it'll work with T-Mobile's 3G.
I switched to T-Mobile to get a G1, and as soon as my contract is up, I'm switching elsewhere. Their coverage is acceptable where I live (3G is spotty but covers most of the city), but they have zero coverage at my mom's house.
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Is the new 4g an actual standard that all of these carriers will use or will 4g be another mismash of frequencies and formats?
No surprise here, but a mismash of frequencies and formats.
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Plus the resolution of the Droid is astounding. The horizontal resolution is the same as the vertical resolution of the iphone. You literally can display 2 iphone screens side-by-side on the Droid.
It's easy to lie as AC, isn't it?
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G1 is running 2.0+
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I really love my N900. Give it a try.
FYI - you do NOT have to install apps from the Market on an android phone, you can turn on a setting to allow installation of packages from other-than-Market sources. Any .APK file can be downloaded and installed then... of course, at your own risk.
I have a plain old phone that does not do anything other than make a call and take crappy pictures. Since I am in the market, I have played with all the new model phones. Hands down the iPhone seems the smoothest and easiest to use (to me). I could care less about SD cards or replaceable batteries. (Seems silly unless you need talk 20 hours straight). The Droid stuff just seems non-intuitive to me. The only reason I do not have an iPhone is it runs AT&T and they have no coverage here... not even cell. But if the iPhone 4 comes out on Verizion, I am so there.
Only by rooting and loading a custom ROM.
So when's 2.1 and this multitouch goodness going to trickle down to my Moto Droid?
Reverse the polarity to the deflector screen shield. Duh.
What happened to extensive testing and user feedback periods of electronic equipment? You would expect stuff like this from Microsoft, but now Google too?
Is that true?
I know parts of it are backported, but a quick google search is not finding me links to any stories about a funtional Android 2.x on the G1
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They may have to eject the core.
At the very least, a monitor in Google's NOC is going to kill the operator in a less then spectacular explosion.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
The free turn by turn navigation is better then the $100 version on the iPhone.
That is not possible as long as it requires a network connection to operate.
The time you need a GPS nav most is when you are where the networks are failing you...
And the android market is booming and going to pass apple's in total apps pretty soon.
Ok man! Whatever you say! It's only an order of magnitude or so behind, I'm sure it will catch up any day.
There's already an "app for that' on both marketplaces.
Yes but there are several "apps for that" for any given value of "that" in the Apple store, each better than the Android versions. Twitter clients are but the most obvious example.
The once difference is there's things android will let you do that apple won't.
Come up with a task you think the iPhone cannot perform and Android can . The iPhone does multitasking for the user, just not in ways you realize.
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Not sure if it's PURE 2.1 android..but the Cyanogenmod has at least some healthy chunks of it. Wonderful ROM..works like a Dre...well, you get the picture:) He's also got a ROM out for the Nexus. You do have to root, and you do have to be able to READ all the info FIRST. If you can do that, and follow directions, it's easy. I love my G1..and I'm on AT&T..so I'm taking a speed hit (2G, not 3G). When do we get a faster processer AND a physical keyboard?
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Question 1:
Your phone can do "multitasking" -- explain to me what the advantage to this is? I mean, the advantage over the iPhone, that is - since the iPhone is obviously multitasking as it will play music, check your email, run a phone conversation, and allow you to launch any 3rd-party app, all at the same time. I suppose my question is, what real-world advantages have you seen with this "multitasking"?
Question 2:
Android's total apps will surpass Apple's "pretty soon"? I'm reading 100 thousand versus twenty thousand. What the hell do you mean by "pretty soon"?
Come up with a task you think the iPhone cannot perform and Android can.
Skype over 3G, running in the background so it doesn't interfere with the main operation of the phone. You're welcome.
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Come up with a task you think the iPhone cannot perform and Android can
* Emulators. I play SNES and Genesis games.
* Third party software for core functionality - I have 3 browsers, 2 dialers, 2 text messaging apps
* Shell access - I can ssh into my G1, I also run an ftp server on it.
These are just a few of the things I do everyday, but I'm sure there are many others. There isn't any reason the iPhone hardware couldn't do these things, it all boils down to open vs. closed platform.
Doesn't that make it an Android patch? Is the goog going to start down this slippery road of releasing specialized patches for its baby while leaving all other Android users out in the cold, no-feature-having darkness? It would seem that a move like that could only hurt the popularity of their flagship mobile iphone-killer OS. I can understand a 3G related patch being phone-specific, but it seems that what they are doing is diverging their OS into 'Android' and 'Android for Nexus One'. Not cool guys.
yes, as I said parts are back-ported.
bullet from about cyanogen mod:
* Based on Android 1.6, many bugfixes and enhancements from AOSP, XDA, and me
and from the description of the new one:
* Music and DeskClock apps from Eclair
* Eclair graphics, apps, and other guts
Parts are back-ported, but it is not by any means a 2.x ROM.
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The replaceable battery isn't so much for when I need to talk for a long time but when the battery wears out and stops holding as much charge. The SD becomes more important if you use your phone as a multimedia device otherwise it's pretty moot. Which part is non intuitive? The Eris was the first smartphone I've owned and it was extremely easy to dive into, and from using iPhones at work no harder than using Apples hardware.
I'll meet you at the intersection of "Should be" and "Reality"
Incidentally I think I just did in another post of mine:
I don't have an iphone, but according to this review:
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Skype over 3G, running in the background so it doesn't interfere with the main operation of the phone. You're welcome.
But you can do that on an iPhone. You run skype. You switch over to look at some data, and back again.
Or you can call into a skype bridge using the phone service you are paying for, and do anything else.
Or, you can use a skype client that includes a browser.
Of course realistically, you are just going to be talking to someone on skype which you can do just fine without any interruption. And of course, a jailbroken iPhone can do that but I was going to explain how it does allow task based multitasking even without that option.
So, try again.
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* Emulators. I play SNES and Genesis games.
Jailbroken iPhones can do that. But you are not thinking at the task level - of course there is going to be some platform specific software you are able to run on some devices and not others. Complaining that you can't run MAME on the iPhone by default but to complain about lack of games on the iPhone is absurd when you could play free demo versions of games for a year, and games that were optimized for the platform at that.
Third party software for core functionality - I have 3 browsers, 2 dialers, 2 text messaging apps
So does the iPhone (actually it has a lot more than that). Alternate contact apps are very popular. And there are alternate browsers - they make use of the same core rendering technology BUT they wrap other features around the browsing experience.
While they are not specific to SMS there are many chat clients and other things.
* Shell access - I can ssh into my G1, I also run an ftp server on it.
Again, you can do that on a jailbroken phone. I see that as an uber niche need, so anyone that absolutely needs that also has the skills to jailbreak and therefore that is a legitimate path to fulfilling that requirement.
These are just a few of the things I do everyday, but I'm sure there are many others. There isn't any reason the iPhone hardware couldn't do these things, it all boils down to open vs. closed platform.
The fact is the iPhone can be opened fully and has been by millions of people now. Anyone who needs that additional level of openness has the skills to do so. But most people dont.
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The Droid Eris supports multi-touch in it's browser and photo app.
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Almost certainly yes, although I suspect that the tricky bit is fitting in an antennae that works at all frequency ranges in a small handset
Yeah, T-Mobile seems to be a bit spotty closer to home (Northern AZ) but is great in the city (Phoenix Area). I know the droid has a physical keypad, but don't want to switch carriers. The family rate that I have with T-Mobile is probably the best out there, and I'm happy with the service. I won't use AT&T ever again. Hoping the next version has something like an A8/A9 at a decent clock rate, a physical keypad and works with T-Mobile.
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I was actually referring to one of my larger reasons not to run an iPhone (AT&T issues aside). I'm aware you can install from outside sources, I actually rooted my G1 within a month so I could do wifi tethering with my netbook while on the go.
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