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Paypal Reverses Payments Made To Indians
bhagwad writes "Beginning January 28, Paypal has been reversing the payments made to any Indian provider of services. In addition, Indian users have been unable to withdraw their money to their bank accounts. As a result, a large number of Indian Paypal accounts have negative balances running into the thousands of dollars. The worst part is that users weren't informed beforehand — the funds were just whisked away. Indian providers have gone ballistic, with over 2,000 posts on a thread on the reversal of payments and over 700 posts on this thread about the delay in transfers. Paypal hasn't given any explanation to this behavior other than they're looking into it. Although Paypal claims in the above blog post that payments made for 'Services' are not being reversed, this is not true. All payments not made for 'Goods' with a shipping address have been reversed — in fact, the Paypal e-mail tells the Indian sellers to encourage their clients to lie and claim that they're paying for goods with a shipping address instead."
This is due to some change in the regulations by the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) regarding offshore money transfers. I read somewhere that RBI is demanding some documents form PayPal to make them eligible to transfer money to and from Indian Banks. Apparently PayPal hasn't been able to furnish those documents.
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http://www.paypalwarning.com/paypal_phone_number
I don't. They arbitrarily started reversing all my payments after I'd shipped product and provided tracking numbers proving delivery. Cost me thousands of dollars and put me out of business. Now they want me to pay them $800 because they not only cleaned out my account but I guess gave away even more. And you pretty much have no recourse but to keep feeling out online forms asking what the frick is going on. Been using Google Checkout and Amazon Payments and they seem viable alternatives. I don't leave money sitting in accounts attached to order processing though because who knows what they'll do to you. Credit card / order protection is a scam. The venders get ripped for no reason. I think unless fraud can be proven there should be no refund and then it should become a legal matter. The credit companies charge fees but they don't cover any of the costs. It all comes from venders.
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That's not very convenient for instant or simple online sales. Also you normally get hit with a $15 wire transfer fee on top of it. For large purchases it's doable, for paying some coder by the hour it'd be a hassle.
http://www.paypalsucks.com/
I got burned by these bozos once. Make sure you read the terms and conditions carefully. They refund only under very tight circumstances. If there was an alternative, i'd use them instead. ... I got bitten for several hundred dollars once...
I had no problems on about 50 transactions
Seriously, PayPal sucks...
Seller terms
The seller must legally be able to do business in the US, and have a US bank account (since Google is US-based).
The buyer does not have to be in the US.
Why should they be a bank? Their primary purpose is enabling transactions not the usual roles of banks.
Yeah, they only hold, transfer, convert, store, send, give cashback bonuses, interest, etc. They are nothing like a bank at all.
http://www.gunpal.net/
It's an alternative.
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Too late for lose/loose. It seems to be viral, perhaps intentionally to drive boomers nuts. Also on the 'endangered' list: affect/effect; their/there/they're; dissent/descent; and the biggie-- your/you're.
The cracks first started years ago when traffic crossings started omitting the apostrophe in "DONT WALK" signs decades ago. I knew things were pointing downhill even then.
Never saw a mixup of sales and sails, tho.
No, it's a fee you pay for a regular wire transfer from one bank to another. Its absence is what makes PayPal so convenient.
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You don't understand how the regulation was sold. The regulation was needed because banks lend (you call it creating and destroying money, others call it lending). This allows a bank to fail. Paypal *can't* fail from that. They hold money, but don't lend or borrow against it. So I understand your point. But, from how the regulation was sold to the people, you are 100% wrong. It was never sold as "banks create and destroy money, so they need regulation." It was sold as "banks have your money, and to make sure that they give you your money when you ask for it, they need to be regulated." From the manner in which banking regulation is sold to the America public, Paypal is a bank and should be regulated like one.
I understand that your argument is that the sale of that regulation was a lie, and the banking industry isn't about holding money (but borrowing and lending against it), but I think you are wrong.
Not to mention, you are begging the question. You assume that they don't lend against the money they hold. Even if I agreed with your logic (and I don't) you have assumed a premise that has never been addressed. When you prove Paypal doesn't lend money (and I consider buying stock or bonds to be lending money, for this exercise, as one could default on that debt and have the same result), then we can address the logic I don't agree with.
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"Actually what caused the great depression is that the market started getting rocky, so everyone pulled their money out at the same time... something which the banks were unable to do"
BECAUSE OF.....
" * You deposit $100 at the bank.
* The bank sets $10 aside as a reserve
* The bank loans $90 to bob, with interest
Now, while you still have your $100 (its in the bank), there is someone else running around with $90"
The banks couldn't give people their money back because they already fucked up loaning it out to other people. This is basic history, not even fucking economics.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
I think it's important here to make a distinction between an ACH transaction and a wire transfer. My limited understanding of paypal leads me to believe they primarily effect transactions through as an ACH, instead of a wire transfer through the Swift or Fedwire network.
There are strict regulations on wire transfers in the US under the UCC, but little regulating the fees banks can charge. US domestic wires often cost from $10-$25 depending on whether you're receiving or sending the money. Wire transfers in europe are a lot more popular and negotiations through the EU have led to very low or completely absent wire transfer fees.
Wire transfers are still the best way to move money internationally, or to move large amounts of money safely. In the US though, the ACH network is much cheaper.
You can't legislate goodness. Let each to his own destiny, by will of his freely made choices.
You're only allowing for one iteration! I put $100 in bank A, the bank loans out $80 to you. What do you do with it? Burn it? Probably not. Probably you spend it. Wherever you spend it, it ends up in a bank account. Now bank B (or maybe bank A) has $80, and so at 20% reserve, they can loan out $64 more. That $64 end up in bank A, B, or C, and they can lend out 80% of that, too. sum (i = 1 .. infinity) ($100 x 80%^i) = $400. The "wrong" number of $900 is what happens to the sum if the reserve rate is 10% not 20%. $400 or $900, the banks are still creating many times more fictional money than they actually have. Now, some money does get lost, some money gets spent buying things that goes to employees that goes to cash that maybe doesn't all end up in a bank. But it's pretty damn close. In fact, in the link you said doesn't support the $900 number, they cite a bank operating on a ratio of about 11.5%. Meaning that just every $100 in an account that was cash, there is $850 that is fictional.
ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Bank_Account_Number
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starting in 2018, British banks won't be using personal checks any more. if other countries' banks follow suit, checks won't be an option. that's not going to take effect for several years, but that policy is looming nonetheless.
if someone is in another country, it will be kind of hard to just walk over to a branch and meet up with them there.
maybe that's why those Middle Eastern networks (can't recall the name. something like '---hasa'), which feds couldn't stand because terrorist groups liked them, were effective. a phone call and someone spots the cash until it shows up for real.
"To stop the terrorists."
Anywhere but the US, you just sign in to your internet banking account, key in his branch ID and account number, and away the money floats, on a surge of digital freedom! In the US however, try this approach, and your rent just become $355.