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Toshiba Developing High-Density 1TB SSD
MojoKid writes "A new partnership between Toshiba and Tokyo's Keio University has led to the creation of a new technology that could allow SSDs up to 1TB in size to be made 'with a footprint no larger than a postage stamp.' The report states that the two have been able to integrate 128GB NAND Flash chips and a single controller into a stamp-sized form factor. They've even made it operational with a transfer rates of 2Gbps (or about 250MB/sec) with data transfer that relies on radio communication."
I really hope all these high-density storage systems will be used for gaming, HDDs are unreliable and large SSDs would allow for fast load times, better non-DRM copy protection and the ability to save games without paying extra.
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I don't understand metres, they're too complicated. Thank god they used the postage stamp method of measuring.
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"...with data transfer that relies on radio communication."
Well that sounds like an eavesdropping invitation if I ever heard one.
... it's reliability that's the real issue. SSDs are a great idea in theory, but in practice the only time I tried to build a server around one, taking great care to ensure that as little as possible would ever be ever written to it (e.g. turned off atime, while /var, /temp, /home etc. were located on hard disks), it ended up lasting only about a month.
I would love to replace my hard disks, arguably the most critical and vulnerable components of my computers, with SSDs, but only if they are more reliable in the first place, and can thereafter be regarded generally as an improvement.
256 TB of flash... The storage device will be delivered in a standard fedex mailer, the payment will have to go by pallet....
Would you care to provide the model number of the SSD you used for reference?
Thanks!
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I wonder what a useful device like the "minisec" would be without it being straddled to a crippled-by-design product like the iXXXX.
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Hard drive development just hasn't been keeping place with flash memory.
I think you're confused. I happen to have a hard drive in a system that creates and deletes thousands of gigabytes of files a month. It's been doing that for seven years straight. Show me any SSD that can achieve the same. Hard drives and flash memory have different properties and that necessarily makes them more or less applicable to different usage scenarios.
Stamp-sized chips storing the contents of multiple libraries, fully downloadable over short-range radio transfer in roughly an hour.
Listen to us complaining that we don't have flying cars yet. :P
It would take about 200TB to record a lifetime of audio at CD quality.
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People complain about $60 games... you seriously think $200 games would fly? It also seems you are comparing a single purchase game to an online game. WoW on a fast chip would still require a game server. So the comparison of MadeUpGame with a one time purchase vs WoW is far from valid. You should compare it to CoD, HL2, etc... a game that you buy once and play for years, $60 vs $200 simply to get faster load times? I'd pay $60 and load from an ISO if I really wanted faster load times.
The total weight of the money that you spend on end-user storage exceeds the weight of the storage device itself.
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You sure about that? 75 years is 657,000 hours. At FLAC sized files (350mb/hr) it would require 229,950,000 megabytes. I guess you are pretty close there!
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Seems very impressive, but what is this phrase "postage stamp". Is this also part of some newfangled technology we may never see? I for on will probably be fine with good old email for a long time to come.
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7 years * 12 months/year * 10,000 GB/month = 840 TB of data written/deleted
10,000 Erases * 128 GB = 1280 TB of data written/deleted
It seems like any SSD of appropriate capacity will do that. 10,000 erases is actually extremely conservative, most SSDs advertise 2-3 orders of magnitude more than that. It'd take continuous writing at maximum speed for more than a decade* to kill most modern SSDs. Or at least that's the theory, I'm sure someone has gotten a defective one that died in a month or something.
* 5,000,000 Erases * (256 GB / 100 MB/sec) = 405 years
And with a few PetaBytes, video as well. It wont be long before bluetooth ear pieces capture video as well. You too could be walking talking 24/7 YouTuber in all of its annoying glory. At least this would have value for Policemen.
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It would take about 200TB to record a lifetime of audio at CD quality.
Sure, but would you want to record your *life* with the empty soundstage and lack of warmth inherent to mere "CD quality" ?
I really like the idea of a device that does not need to be constantly de-fragmented. To me, above the moving parts issue/noise/heat issues, it is paramount. However I need my data storage to be reliable and right now SSDs still don't have the track record.
I understand that there are those people who are running 2-4x SSD drives in a RAID0 that are fully happy. But mostly they are gamers who don't care if they have to do a reinstall if that array fails. And or don't really have any sort of long term data that they mind wiping at the drop of a hat.
I personally deal with end users who care a lot about their digital pictures, email, and other assorted crap. As it stands right now those ol' spinning platters still offer us all the best reliability at the lowest cost point.
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... or about 35 TB to record a lifetime at 128k MP3, stereo, "near CD quality".
Really - do you need your entire life recorded in CD quality? Mostly, you'll worry about proving crimes you didn't commit, so anything better than 32 Kbps MP3 is probably a waste. And while there will be those precious moments, most of your life will consist of you sitting and consuming media that's already recorded elsewhere anyway. Really, do you want hi-def audio copies of the Dresden and Star Trek reruns that you watched?
A TB now costs about $90. If trends of the last 20 years continue, in about 10 years, a lifetime of audio at 128k MP3 will cost about $90, inflation adjusted.
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Lets look at a few metrics.
1: performance: afaict SSDs are already the clear winner here.
2: density: I can put a 2TB drive in a standard 3.5 inch bay. Afaict SSDs are generally the same size as laptop hard drives and you can put two of those in a 3.5 inch bay with readilly available adaptor kits. Afaict the drives go up to 512GB so the density is about half that of HDDs. For laptops the density situation is even closer (especially if the laptop in question only has a 9.5mm high bay).
3: cost: the aforementioned 2TB hard drives cost $150-$300 while a 512GB SSD costs $1400 so the cost per gigabyte is about 20 to 40 times higher for the SSD.
In other words the main issue for SSDs right now is cost.
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And while there will be those precious moments, most of your life will consist of you sitting and consuming media that's already recorded elsewhere anyway.
Oh heck, its worse than that. I'd contend that fully 3/4 of a person's life isn't fit for being recorded at all:
Sleeping
Driving
Toileting/Grooming
Showering
Cooking
Eating
Cleaning
Consuming Media
I'd say that the vast majority of those recordings would be of you talking to yourself, at best. Without video, the time spend doing most of it would lose its context anyway.
In short, I'm guessing you could get all the important bits on less than 9 TBs...
It would be wasted. That's what always happens to excess capacity. ( Hmm, I don't know if I might be interested in the entire contents of your storage thingy, so I'll just copy it onto mine in it's entirety. ) Of course you've copied many other people's thingies, onto yours and they've copied each other's and through six degrees of separation there's a copy of my thingy of a few versions ago already on your thingie that I've just recopied onto mine. I could clean it out, but I won't because it's more work than it's worth since I have excess capacity.
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