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I Use Twitter, Please Rob Me

nk497 writes "Developers looking to prove a point about the information people are sharing on social networking sites have unveiled a new tool called Please Rob Me. It hunts out tweets from people who are also using location-based services telling the world that they're out of town, and then directs the world to go rob their house. The creators of the site said: 'Don't get us wrong, we love the whole location-aware thing. The information is very interesting and can be used to create some pretty awesome applications. However, the way in which people are stimulated to participate in sharing this information is less awesome.' How long until the first actual robbery takes place?"

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  1. Sweet! Free Stuff! by Nzimmer911 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thank you Please Rob Me! My new LED TV is awesome!

    1. Re:Sweet! Free Stuff! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Thank you Please Rob Me! My new LED TV is awesome!

      WILL ROB AGAIN!!!! A++++++

    2. Re:Sweet! Free Stuff! by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, thank you "Please Rob Me" _his_ LED TV really is awesome. Shouldn't have tweeted about the job you just did from the other side of town, dimwit. Expect a surprise when you get home...

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    3. Re:Sweet! Free Stuff! by MrNaz · · Score: 5, Funny

      I wonder if the "seller" will give you an equally positive rating?

      "Smooth, easy transaction. Didn't make too much of a mess. Very little damage to front door. Highly recommended!"

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    4. Re:Sweet! Free Stuff! by Exitar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, thank you "Please Rob Me", your wife is really hot! Now I will never have to meet her in a motel again thank to this wonderful service!

    5. Re:Sweet! Free Stuff! by hippie-joel · · Score: 5, Funny

      Only on Slashdot would this be voted "Insightful".

  2. Release the lawyers.. by pak9rabid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I sense some legal trouble for these guys in the near future..

    1. Re:Release the lawyers.. by discord5 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I sense some legal trouble for these guys in the near future..

      Sadly PleaseSueMe.com has already been taken, or they would've been able to set a new trend.

    2. Re:Release the lawyers.. by Idaho · · Score: 4, Informative

      Doubt it, since they obviously don't live in the USA. Good for them, then :)

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    3. Re:Release the lawyers.. by Idaho · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Their names look very Dutch to me (I'm Dutch myself), so I'm guessing the Netherlands (or perhaps Belgium).

      You're probably right that "encouraging people to rob a specific person's house is actionable in every first world country". However, that's clearly not their stated intention - to the contrary, in fact.

      In the Netherlands, if someone would start a lawsuit about this (could happen, sure), I'm guessing chances are pretty good that the judge will buy the argument of the website authors, especially since burglars can already trivially find the exact same information if they have two half-working brain cells, and their stated purpose is to actually make people aware of this obvious problem. In addition, whoever starts the lawsuit would probably first have to prove actual damages (e.g. being robbed), and that this was caused by this website, and even then there's the obvious counterpoint that they put this information online themselves in the first place, and it might have been trivially found without that website. The apparent intention (of the website authors) matters as well, probably more so than in the USA (this is just a feeling, I may be wrong).

      So, it's hard to prove that a robbery was "caused" or "encouraged" by this website, even then it involved your own stupidity in putting that information publicly on the internet in the first place, therefore the chances of winning (as the person who got robbed) seem not that great. In addition to that, mostly everyone here has insurance covering their household effects, meaning they'd get (most of) the money back from an insurance company anyway, so why bother with the lawsuit.

      Finally, if you lose, you typically have to pay the legal costs of the defending side - so starting the lawsuit is not without financial risk in the first place.

      Much of this is probably also true in the USA, but the legal costs involved would be higher, and I somehow have a feeling, also the chances of losing. (IANAL, so I may be wrong about that.)

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  3. "How long until the first actual robbery" by TheMeuge · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This isn't news. People's houses are cleared out regularly due to their Facebook status.

    1. Re:"How long until the first actual robbery" by Arimus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or just forgetting to cancel the milk or the pile of post just inside the front door, or news papers you forgot to cancel etc etc etc.

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    2. Re:"How long until the first actual robbery" by swb · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Out shopping for a new aquariums for my rattlesnake collection. The last burglar knocked them over running from the German Shepherds. Don't look forward to finding all 10 snakes, either."

    3. Re:"How long until the first actual robbery" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I can heartily recommend Trursday as the best day for theivery, as it's often overlooked.

    4. Re:"How long until the first actual robbery" by MiniMike · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hmm. My new Facebook status:

      "New shotgun looks and shoots great, really rounds out collection. Staying home this week since winning another martial arts championship. The new Rotweiler gets along great with the Dobermans."

  4. Just because you can... by 2obvious4u · · Score: 4, Insightful

    doesn't mean you should.

    It is one thing for unscrupulous behavior to happen, it is another to encourage it. Their motives may be "pure" in that they are trying to bring awareness about what people know about you and what "could" happen. That doesn't mean it should happen. Not everyone is a crook and we should all strive to not be crooks, it is better for everyone. There used to be a time when everyone left there doors unlocked and trusted the community to not rob them. Now the community is encouraging people to rob people. The issue isn't people sharing their information, its people like these guys who are just being ass holes. We shouldn't have to hide our information, people should just respect each other enough not to steal their stuff.

  5. I don't understand the value of this to robbers by xZgf6xHx2uhoAj9D · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The site doesn't tell you whether everyone in the household is gone, only if one person in the household is gone. A robber would still have to peek in the windows and do whatever it is robbers do to make sure the house is empty. But they could do that just by walking around some random neighbourhood and peeking in random windows; they don't need Twitter to tell them to peek into someone's windows.

  6. You can question their methods... by Ltap · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But if this raises awareness, full steam ahead. People need to figure out that if they have minute-by-minute updates of where they are and what they are doing, all of which is publically available, they will sooner or later have consequences.

    Moreso than robberies: I'm surprised we don't have rapes because of this, i.e. a girl tweeting while drunk.

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    1. Re:You can question their methods... by geminidomino · · Score: 5, Funny

      Moreso than robberies: I'm surprised we don't have rapes because of this, i.e. a girl tweeting while drunk.

      I'm sure I'll be condemned to insensitive robot hell for this, but when I read that, my first thought was:

      Q: What's the blonde mating call?
      A: I'm SOOOOOOOOOO wasted.

  7. Re:poor thieves by Fast+Thick+Pants · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pretty long odds for the itchy trigger finger set... They'd soon get bored waiting and try to sweeten the pot.

    12:00 - leaving 4 grandmas, back in 2 weeks
    16:00 - plenty of beer in the fridge for when I get back tho, hope it doesn't get skunky
    18:00 - crap, left my rolex on the nitestand
    21:00 - crap, wife left her diamonds
    22:00 - crap, left the keys in the door
    22:30 - crap, left the keys in the truck too
    22:45 - crap, told the neighbor some moving guys were coming by around midnight

  8. Re:really a good idea? by Thud457 · · Score: 4, Funny

    oh, ghod, no, please, not "twobbery" . It's enough to make one give up the English language.

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  9. Re:really a good idea? by Gothmolly · · Score: 5, Funny

    He wanks as high as any in Wome !!!

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  10. Re:Hmmm...listen closely... by natehoy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I hear insurance companies quietly whispering about new schemes to monitor their customer's twitterfeeds and deny claims based on homeowner liability.

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  11. Re:Everyone leaves their homes by Rary · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is exactly the point. Computers didn't enter the workplace so that people could suddenly do things that they couldn't do before. Computers simply made those work activities more efficient and effective. The same is true for other uses of computers. Using computers in crime doesn't mean crimes occur where they couldn't before, just that the criminals are more efficient and effective.

    Besides, someone using old-fashioned casing techniques would assume that my house is empty right now because I normally leave for work at 6:45. However, someone using modern casing techniques (if I were a Twitter/Facebook/Foursquare user) would know that I'm working from home today.

    This kind of technology takes much of the risk out of burglarizing homes.

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  12. Re:What's more fun than shooting fish in a barrel? by tomhudson · · Score: 5, Informative
    You can also follow the site owner on twitter: http://twitter.com/Mikepruett
    >Mikepruett
    >Mike Pruett | Rochester, MN
    >@WheresKiger Just eat at a new fast food place called Nupa Express on 11thAve NW and Civic Center Drive it was GREAT 11:12 PM Sep 15th, 2009

    ... and rob HIS house when he's not home:

    >Domain name: PLEASESUEME.COM
    >Pruett, Mike mlt@mltgroup.com
    >4012 5th Place NW, Rochester, MN 55901

    Give him a call to tell him you appreciate being able to track him: 507-281-3490

  13. Some problems and a solution by bbtom · · Score: 4, Interesting

    1. It needs to be "please burgle me". If you aren't at home, then you are being burgled, not robbed. A robbery is theft with violence or the threat of violence (at least in English law - Theft Act 1958 - it is). If nobody is at home, then nobody can be the victim of violence or the threat of violence. So your home is getting burgled - or, if you are an American, burglarized (what the hell kind of a word is that, right?).

    2. PleaseRobMe seems to be built around the premise that one home = one person. If you know where I live, please be assured that I am currently not at my home. But other people live where I live. Families exist. Flat sharing exists. Communal living exists. (Yeah, go and raid the kibbutz - I'm sure it'll be empty!) This may be true for Web 2.0 valleyboys. It's not true of the rest of the planet.

    That said, this kind of thing does show why most location-based services are stupidly designed. I have played around with a few of them, and the only one I'm a real big fan of is FireEagle. Sadly, it's been a bit neglected for business reasons - i.e. Yahoo! financial situation. What is great about FireEagle is you share you location with FireEagle, and they then share it with whatever services you want to share it with. So, I have the little iPhone app which updates FireEagle. FireEagle knows exactly where I am. Then there's a Facebook app which connects to FireEagle, but I don't necessarily have to let it broadcast my location if I don't want it to. Or I can only give a vague location - perhaps at a country or city level. I have it wired in to my SSH setup, so if I SSH in to my Linux box from certain places, it updates my location. Because it is a location broker, it can be updated in any way people think of, rather than having to use a specific application (say, for the iPhone) like FourSquare etc. do.

    This is useful as I can build applications that sit on top of it. One I have been meaning to build is a "remind me when I'm at X" app. So I could basically dump a string (SMS/tweet length) into a database with a broad location in it. It could check against my location and when they match, I could be reminded of X. Remember to buy ice cream when I'm at the supermarket - well, when I'm at the supermarket, I should get a text message saying to buy ice cream.

    Location-based services shouldn't be tied to devices but to people. This is what everyone gets wrong. They need really good granular privacy controls. They need a big "forget me" option. This is something Google Latitude doesn't have. There is no way I have found to tell Google Latitude "Hey, take me off the radar. I'm not anywhere anymore."

    When I have some time to build it, I'd love to build something like FireEagle but running on my servers and just for me. Location is too important, useful and fun to trust Google or Yahoo! or some venture-backed Valley startup with. But if you are building location-based services, look at FireEagle and learn.

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  14. Re:What's more fun than shooting fish in a barrel? by Boomerang+Fish · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh my god! It's coming right for us!