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Court Rules Photo of Memorial Violates Copyright

WhatDoIKnow sends in a story about an appeals court ruling in a singular case that might have the effect of narrowing "fair use" rights for transformative uses of artworks. "The sculptor who designed the Korean War memorial [in Washington DC] brought suit against the Postal Service after a photograph of his work was used on a postage stamp. Though first ruled protected by 'fair use,' on appeal the court ruled in favor (PDF) of the sculptor, Frank Gaylord, now 85."

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  1. isn't the memorial already in the public domain? by jjoelc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Silly me... I thought the point of a memorial was for it to be placed in the trust of (or outright given to) the public... That being the case, how does this decision affect other images of public art?

  2. Guess it was never ours by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Knock down his statue, break it into a million pieces, and send them all to his house using the infringing stamps.

  3. Fair Use by sys.stdout.write · · Score: 5, Insightful
    From the opinion...

    Fair use of a copyrighted work “for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright.

    17 U.S.C. 107

    This is the law. This is not how the Postal Service used his copyrighted work. As an aside, this is also not what Tenenbaum et al. did when they downloaded music.

    We shouldn't complain when judges use restraint and don't bastardize statutes.

  4. Statutory Damages... by Telephone+Sanitizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    17 million sales of $.37 stamps = 46 million or so stamps actually produced.

    Statutory damages can run from $750-$30,000 per copy, assuming that it wasn't a willful infringement.

    That's a minimum award of $34,500,000,000 (34.5 billion) and a maximum award of 1,380,000,000,000 (1.4 trillion). Plus attorney's fees, of course. Roughly last year's federal deficit not counting off-budget spending bills.

    Would anyone here care to argue that statutory damages in the U.S. are not way out of proportion to the scope of the infringement?

  5. A slap in the face to all American veterans. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is nothing more than a huge slap in the face to all American veterans, of any conflict.

    My grandfather was in Korea, and he made what's perhaps the most ultimate sacrifice short of his life: his genitals. Thankfully, he had three kids by the time he was sent over, one of them being my mother. But it still apparently left him a very changed man, more so than most veterans.

    I am glad that he is no longer around, to spare him from having to hear of this disgraceful ruling. Many of his friends' names were on that monument.

    1. Re:A slap in the face to all American veterans. by tuxgeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Agreed
      If the sculptor wanted exclusive rights to this work in question, he should have put the thing in an art museum

      To place a war memorial in a national public arena should make it public domain.
      Whats next? Will he now go after and sue everyone that has snapped this thing with their point & shoot?

      I have a friend that is so disgusted with our government that he now votes against every incumbent that comes up for reelection
      Perhaps if we all took to this strategery, we could eventually rid ourselves of this scum that has fubar'd the country

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    2. Re:A slap in the face to all American veterans. by ae1294 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      My grandfather was in Korea, and he made what's perhaps the most ultimate sacrifice short of his life: his genitals.

      Um... OK, I give up. How?

      A Korean whore kicked his grandfather in the nuts because he wasn't a big tipper... Honestly, who the fuck really cares exactly how or even if it and your post are nothing more than trolls (Which is my guess). The fact remains that people come back from war missing body parts all the time. Maybe it was a shell that went off, a landmine or some how a bullet. Perhaps a spider or snake bite or even some horrible VD. All of these things could happen and I'm sure most have happened. I don't think most men are going on Larry King to talk about it so even if it was just a troll message it totally failed because some place there is a grunt missing his pair because he severed his country just like I'm sure their are women now who served that are missing a breast.

      War tears up both a persons flesh and their minds. It fucking sucks...

    3. Re:A slap in the face to all American veterans. by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If it were necessary to be a native contemporary before understanding were possible, history would be unintelligible and diplomacy would be impossible. Non-nativity is not an intrinsic barrier to understanding.

      You, sir, are a douche. Especially since he's right, there is a fair chance the SCotUS will overturn this. And not only am I a native-born US citizen, but I have been a contractor for several parts of the federal government.

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    4. Re:A slap in the face to all American veterans. by Endo13 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nevermind the soldiers, what about the coats, helmets, guns, boots, etc. Someone designed all those things, which he so blithely copied without bothering to properly recognize artistic authorship.

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  6. Re:This will get appealed again. by OzPeter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The underlying problem is that copyrights were improperly assigned to Gaylord in the first place.

    I think the word you are actually looking for is something like "erroneously" or "stupidly". It seems like the copyrights were properly assigned.

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  7. Re:isn't the memorial already in the public domain by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Scary, or perhaps stupid, or even ridiculous. This was commissioned by Congress and occupies space in a public park. It belongs to the United States, so we should be able to use images of it just as we do with the other public buildings and monuments we own.

    And the Corps of Engineers should be able to take the damn thing to a safe place and blow it up. I'd rather see it destroyed than stand in mockery of the men it commemorates.

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  8. Re:isn't the memorial already in the public domain by nedlohs · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's hardly the first time copyright law has been called stupid.

  9. Vets sue Gaylord by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How about all of the Korean vets sue Frank Gaylord for intruding on their IP. After all, they FOUGHT the war.

  10. Re:isn't the memorial already in the public domain by turbidostato · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "One of the best -- and most annoying -- examples is wedding photos, which the photographer usually retains rights to, even if he sells you prints."

    As long as you surrender your rights as a consumer it's no wonder others will abuse of that.

    I married two years ago and I made damn clear I was contracting a service and that all byproducts and associated rights from that service were my own. There were two phographers that didn't see it that way... well, they didn't get neither the copyright nor the money for the service.