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Calendar Bug Disables Older PlayStation 3 Models

JohnWilliams writes "The Sony PlayStation Network appears to be inaccessible to older ('phat') PS3 units. Players cannot play games that require a connection, even in single-player, offline mode, e.g. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2. Also, the system date resets to January 1, 2000. Sony is 'looking into it.' Speculation abounds that it is a bug related to 2010 being incorrectly flagged as a leap year. The newer PS3 Slim models seem to be working properly."

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  1. Complete and utter Sony DRM failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    On my UK PS3, the date was reset to 31/12/1999 (a value you cannot input yourself manually) and then rolled over into 2000 some hours (5?) later.
    None of my downloaded PS1 games will start - just gives an "invalid copyright protection" error message.
    With the exception of Wipeout HD, none of my downloaded PS3 games will start.
    None of my Blu-ray game disks will start.
    My PlayTV device is not performing scheduled recordings
    VidZone cannot be used, since it requires signing into PSN network to determine what region you're from

  2. Microsoft has to love this by tsotha · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh, man, the party is at Balmer's house tonight.

  3. Re:Can someone explain the bug? by Sowelu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It happened because two different time tracking systems disagreed with each other and were stupid. System 1 said "It's February 29th, 2010", and passed it to System 2. System 2 says "WHOA, that's impossible, nuke it from orbit and start over". Why did they do it like that? Who knows?

  4. I Told You All! by sysusr · · Score: 5, Funny

    When I said the Millennium Bug would strike again, you all thought I was crazy! Who's laughing now?

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  5. Re:HA! by ZDRuX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's a bug. And it's not because of any kind of DRM system with the bluray games. It's because of the trophy system:

    So you're saying it's ok for me to be locked out of my games because Sony's servers don't feel like giving out achievements at this time.

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  6. Re:HA! by diamondsw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While people are far too quick to yell "sue" needlessly, it is a legitimate complaint that otherwise offline, single-player games should be unusable due to this glitch. Whatever happened to gracefully handling failure? A network connection has no business being a requirement (to the point of failing to play without it) for a single player game.

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  7. They'd better fix this by RogueyWon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If this a hardware/firmware issue, then I hope to god for Sony's sake that there's a quick and easy fix that users can apply at home. The problem is that even if they offer everybody a free trade-in to a PS3 slim (which would be cripplingly expensive), then a lot of users, self included, won't accept this. Trading from an original 60 gig PS3 to a PS3 slim is not an upgrade. It's a downgrade.

    Why? Because the original first-gen PS3s had full PS2 back-compatibility, while the more recent versions don't. People like me, who got rid of their PS2 when they picked up a PS3, are not going to be happy in the slightest if it turns out we need to start hitting Ebay for PS2s.

  8. Re:HA! by dangitman · · Score: 4, Funny

    The only reason I can see a video game not working because of mis-matched dates is because of DRM,

    Well, if that's the only reason you can think of, you're not thinking very hard, are you?

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  9. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  10. Re:HA! by ZDRuX · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I understand your explanation of the bug, I'm just arguing that a game shouldn't be crippled by a simple bug that should be trivial to game avaialability offline. I'm just saying a game shouldn't be crippled by the system date. And the only reason I can think of why someone would want the date sync'd or the game made non-working due to changed system date was because of some form of DRM.

    Maybe I'm wrong but this is the only reason I can think of. I just can't find it easy to accept their explanation for this, that's all.

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  11. Re:HA! by ZDRuX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I view this a bit differently. If the drive-door fell off or the gears on the tray broke I would't suggest suing.

    However, if your fridge doors locked and prevented you from using it each time you set the date wrong on the fridge, yes I would suggest suing.

    I am not mad at the PS3 breaking, I am mad at the fact that rather trivial issues prevent people from playing fully functioning games on a fully functioning console system.

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  12. Effects are rather... odd by Raxxon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It was refusing to install the Star Ocean Trophy set. I could get it to start Bayonetta, but when it attempted to load the first cutscene it just hung forever. Tried doing a number of things, nothing worked... And it wouldn't let me back up my data as the largest thumbdrive I own is 8gb and after removing ALL game data, installed demos and everything else I could strip, it claimed it still needed another 750mb of space (original claim was over 17gb). And of course it refuses to recognize either of my external USB HDDs as a target for backing up or reading data from...

    So I started thinking "HD Failing" (it is an original PS3 after all). Figured I'd have it format the drive then reinstall and repatch my games. Nearly a 5 hour time estimate. Take a nap, wake up, see this.... "oh god damnit."

  13. Sony timer by reybrujo · · Score: 5, Funny

    It is not a bug, it is the Sony timer.

  14. Re:HA! by The+Mighty+Buzzard · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, the reason you shouldn't sue is that suing someone because they pissed you off makes you an asshat.

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  15. Re:HA! by The+Mighty+Buzzard · · Score: 4, Funny

    Give the guy a break, he could just be stupid.

    Or he could be following the longstanding tradition of not knowing what the hell you're talking about when bitching on the Internet.

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  16. Re:HA! by Jedi+Alec · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We talk to each other. We try to come to an agreement. If that fails a third party might get involved, especially if it's a disagreement between a company and an individual customer.

    And once all those options have been exhausted...then we might bring in an actual lawyer.

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  17. Re:No PSN on sim yesterday by mjwx · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Are they really trying to kill gaming on all platforms?

    No, DRM is and has always been about killing 2nd hand sales. The piracy non-issue was just an excuse that no one would question whilst they went about removing your consumer rights. For over a year now publishers have been openly equating the 2nd hand market to piracy. The ultimate goal is to destroy all media they don't control, if DRM isn't stopped in the near future all games will require an authorised console, with authorised media, on an authorised display device and an authorised user and if any of these things fail authorisation then the whole system will stop working (for you at least).

    So at least write to your representative (I know in the US this will do nothing but not all /.ers are in the US) about DRM.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, consoles have DRM built into the hardware. This makes it both more prevalent and more aggressive then DRM on the PC. It also makes it harder to remove.

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  18. Re:HA! by fedos · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ayn Rand is not exactly a good source for economic insight.

  19. Re:HA! by vegiVamp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To me, as an individual, a cease-and-desist doen't feel like you're trying to talk to me, it feels like you're trying to bully me. If you're trying to talk to me, give me a call or send me an informal email, from one human being to another.

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  20. AVOID THE ISSUE by loafula · · Score: 4, Informative

    Lucky for me I read up on this before using my PS3 at all today. I seem to have circumvented the issue to a degree. I unplugged the power my wireless router and then fired up my PS3. From there, I noticed my date/time was set to 12/31/2000. In the system settings, I disabled internet connection and reset the time manually to 3/1/2010. Now that internet was disabled, I plugged my router back in. I tested a few games, and all worked. Granted, this does not solve the issue of trophies and getting into PSN, but at least I can play single player games until they come up with a fix.

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