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US Eases Internet Export Rules To Iran, Sudan, Cuba

coondoggie writes "Looking to facilitate what it calls free speech rights in countries that don't look favorably at such liberties, the US government today said it would ease the regulations around exporting Internet-based applications to Iran, Sudan and Cuba. Specifically, the Treasury Department said it would add general licenses (PDF) authorizing the exportation of free, personal, Internet-based communications services – such as instant messaging, chat and email, and social networking – to those three countries. The amendments also allow the exportation of related software to Iran and Sudan, the department said in a release (the US Commerce Department controls software exports with Cuba). Until now all such exports would have broken federal laws."

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  1. privacy? by tivoKlr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sounds like a good way to gather intel on the people using this technology in these "friendly" countries.

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    1. Re:privacy? by girlintraining · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sounds like a good way to gather intel on the people using this technology in these "friendly" countries.

      Yeah, like ours.

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    2. Re:privacy? by tivoKlr · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Exactly. Widen the net of surveillance by giving the tools used for communication to the enemy. It's not like anyone should expect any kind of privacy when using im/email/etc. regardless of locale.

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    3. Re:privacy? by Pojut · · Score: 4, Insightful
  2. The very definition of irony by srussia · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You need a license to export ?

    Better add "free-speech zones" to that list.

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    1. Re:The very definition of irony by amicusNYCL · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You need a license to export ?

      Do you think that's strange, or that every other country doesn't have similar laws? If you have a company who manufactures things like weapons, aeronautics, or communications equipment do you want them selling that to national enemies?

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    2. Re:The very definition of irony by techno-vampire · · Score: 4, Insightful
      We spent years preparing for a war that was plainly just never going to happen with the USSR, because the fucking idiots in charge on both sides were so afraid that the other one was planning to come after them.

      Written with 20/20 hindsight. I lived through that era and I can assure you that it wasn't that clear at the time. There were many points (e.g., during the Cuban Missile Crisis) when it looked like somebody was going to push The Button any day now. In one sense, MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) worked: the Soviets were just as afraid that we were going to attack them as we were of a Soviet attack with the result that both sides did what they could to keep tensions below the flash-point.

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  3. Re:Eh? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We have a strict policy of saying unkind things about any dictators who we didn't install personally(and a few who haven't been passing their performance reviews since we did)...

  4. There's no one easier to invade by presidenteloco · · Score: 4, Funny

    Than a country full of sedentary layabouts twittering to each other like chickadees
    about the price of spice
    and admiring their own portraits on facebook.

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    1. Re:There's no one easier to invade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      You should have written that as a haiku:

      New social warfare
      Another nation brought low
      By social networks.

  5. What about instrumental piano CDs? by MichaelCrawford · · Score: 4, Interesting
    For several years now I've been giving away free copies of my piano CD. I have received several requests from residents of Iran, and I would like very much to send them, but I haven't wanted to even try to figure out how to get approval from the Bureau of Export Administration.

    It's not like my music is some kind of weapon.

    You'd think that following the rules would just be a matter of looking up which countries are embargoed, but it's not that simple. In many cases it's not the country that's embargoed, it's specific individuals or organizations - in the case of Iran, it's the Revolutionary Guard, among others.

    I'm pretty sure there's a procedure by which I could get a license, and I would be happy to go to all the trouble and expense that would be required. What I'm not looking forward to though is if and when I do get the required licenses, having to explain to the clerk at my post office that I have the permission of the Feral Gummint to mail my music to Persia.

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    1. Re:What about instrumental piano CDs? by mcgrew · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's not like my music is some kind of weapon.

      Woodie Guthrie had a guitar that had written on it This machine kills facists (larger photo here)

  6. Re:Eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    fuzzyfuzzyfungus, don't say "we". If you got in the way of oil profits, they would kill you, too.

  7. Nothing better than trade by drumcat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Folks, nothing could be better than trading with your enemies. It has worked for millennia, and will continue to do so. Trade Iran's government into a needy, third-world leech. It's better than a war. Their people are magnificent, intelligent, and just like us in many cases. Hell, they even get all ideological, like Joel O'Steen and such. Let's trade some curry and hookahs for blue jeans, and call off the war, k?

    1. Re:Nothing better than trade by vlm · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Let's trade some curry and hookahs for blue jeans, and call off the war, k?

      Hmm.... Our military industrial complex vs our dead textile industry. I wonder which will set policy.

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    2. Re:Nothing better than trade by corbettw · · Score: 4, Funny

      Considering how hot every single Persian chick I've ever met is, I fully support the idea of peaceful, loving relations with Iran, as often as possible.

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  8. When will they learn? by Darkness404 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When will the government learn that about the only way people continue to be oppressed through governments is poverty, lack of information, and brainwashing. By allowing citizens of countries with oppressive governments to be opened to art, music, literature, communication and visitors from the "free" world, it will inspire citizens to rebel. Selfishness is a virtue, it helps keep a sane government if there is at least some communication with the outside world. If we would flood Cuba with American tourists, artists, musicians, and brought them computers, cell phones, etc. chances are the dictatorship would fall (mostly because Cuba is well within travel distance from the US, and while some other "free" countries allow travel/etc to Cuba like Canada, they lack the -very- close distance).

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    1. Re:When will they learn? by gmuslera · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't see people from US to rebel to government because oppresive laws like i.e. sharing things on internet (in all variants, from pictures of your niece to a nice sound file you found around), no privacy, and other things that should be for granted in a "free" country. And they had internet since the start. Don't see China citizens rebelling neither, in fact, there are very vocal supporters of their government.

      And different way of living don't mean worse for them. Your values could be different to their ones. And if you think that your "democracy" is in anything related to do what free will of voters want, think again... being able to vote only to one bad candidate is not significantly better than being able to choose between 2 bad candidates (and the same corporations writting the laws behind both of them), and the media is too controlled to have in the big numbers anything related with free will in the population.

    2. Re:When will they learn? by TheSync · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Don't see China citizens rebelling neither, in fact, there are very vocal supporters of their government.

      What was that whole Tiananmen Square thing then?

      Or China warns again against Hong Kong democracy push?

      And why does China have to jail democracy activists?

      The truth is that China is 1.3 billion people with 1.3 billion different political beliefs. A good number of them are pushing for democracy. As to how many, we can't know in a non-democracy that jails people who are "subversive" to the autocracy.

      It is easy to be supportive of your government when your whole future life depends on you saying that you support it.

  9. Re:Eh? by trurl7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're talking about government. The US government in particular. The day they change the law because they "realize it's stupid", pigs will fly in line abreast over the Capitol.

    The only time the law changes is when there is an advantage for those in power to do so (e.g. more money, more power, avoiding a nation-wide civil revolt, etc..) The question, as always, is "qui bono"?

  10. took you long enough fools ... by unity100 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    had you realized to do that sooner, like maybe 10 years ago, a lot might have changed in those countries by now.

  11. Re:Eh? by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Awww, aren't your generalizations cute!

    If I go a hundred years without hearing "The government sucks because the government sucks!", it still won't be enough.

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  12. free = gift (?) by Comboman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would think that if your CDs are free, it's a gift and not really an export. I know many Cuban-Americans have been sending gifts to family in Cuba for years with no problems (at least, no problems on the US end).

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  13. Well that settles it by s122604 · · Score: 3, Funny

    The terrorists have won. Way to send us down the path of dhimmitude O'bama!

  14. What about encryption? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is nice, guys, but when are we going to get rid of the brain-dead(*) restrictions on encryption software, already? As governments and ISPs all over the world have been demonstrating over the past few years, increasing computer power means it is steadily becoming easier to spy on and censor Internet users. To enable truly free communication in the face of a repressive government requires people to defend themselves, through anonymity software such as Tor, Freenet, and I2P, not to mention strong web and email encryption. If the US wants to encourage freedom of speech, it should be promoting the distribution of these technologies, not outlawing their export.

    Well, we can hope. This seems to be a small step in the right direction.

    (*) Yes, brain-dead; you'd have to be an idiot to think these restrictions do anything to keep encryption software out of terrorists' hands. All they accomplish is to make it more difficult for ordinary citizens of, say, Iran, to protect themselves from their government.

  15. Re:Eh? by TheCarp · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Have they? They say they did it to "foster free speech".

    I have a different take.... isn't it so cute, they think they matter!

    As if nobody in Iran has instant messaging because....the US government said it couldn't be exported. To even think that a change in US policy on these technologies could now, or ever, have any such effect is either naive to the point of being cute and deserving of a pat on the head.... or so myopic, that their heads must be elbow deep up their asses.

    Somebody should give them a gold star for effort.

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  16. Re:Eh? by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The US isn't a perfect country. But when our presidential election results were disputed (Bush vs Gore) no one got beaten, killed, arrested, or severely harassed by the authorities.

  17. Re:Eh? by palegray.net · · Score: 2, Informative

    Jesus, both of you need to just stop.

  18. Re:Eh? by trurl7 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Agreed :)

  19. Re:Eh? by Cassius+Corodes · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is not about IM or gmail or some other shit like that - this is about anonymity software like haystack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haystack_%28software%29) that has been designed to bypass filters and protect people from government surveillance that has been sitting and waiting to be released because of export restrictions that would make its release a crime. The authors have been loudly calling for this amendment for a while and I am glad that they finally got around to it. So instead of dissing the govt, you should be thanking them for doing the right thing, or at least righting a previous wrong.

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