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The Lost Film That Accompanied Empire Strikes Back
An anonymous reader writes "'Alien' and 'Star Wars' art director Roger Christian was given £25,000 by George Lucas in 1979 to make a 25-minute medieval B-feature called 'Black Angel.' This spiritual tale of a knight on a strange quest was inspired by Christian's near-fatal fever when he fell ill in Mexico making 'Lucky Lady.' 'Black Angel' made a huge impression, not least because it shared the dark tone of 'Empire Strikes Back.' John Boorman showed it to the crew of 'Excalibur' as a template for how he wanted his film to look, and 'Black Angel' went on to influence films such as 'Dragonslayer' and 'Legend' throughout the 1980s and beyond. But it has not been seen by anyone since 'Empire' finished its theatrical run. Two weeks ago Roger Christian unearthed a print of a film that was thought lost forever, and in this interview he talks about 'Black Angel,' and provides the only picture from the film that has ever hit the Internet."
This spiritual tale of a knight on a strange quest was inspired by Christian's near-fatal fever when he fell ill in Mexico ...
That is oddly similar to the car crash that Lucas experienced shortly before graduating high school in his Autobianchi Bianchina on June 12, 1962. It was a bad wreck that I guess was highly improbable for him to survive. He was going to be a mechanic and race cars until that accident. He is also said to have conceived the idea for "the Force" as it would grow (by assimilation of aspects of some Eastern spiritual philosophies) into the "hokey religions and ancient weapons" of Star Wars. Proof that near death experiences have a very profound effect on people.
I'd provide a citation but I remember reading that off the back of a Topps Galaxy Star Wars card when I was a kid.
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Did you really skim that fast? This is about a completely different movie that just happens to have been made by the same art director. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed that they put out copies of this it looks really interesting.
But do your other plans for the Black Angel story make you think twice about releasing it?
Do you know something? I'm wrestling with this. I was talking about it yesterday. I still get letters, still get emails, there are threads on the IMDB going on and on about it - people guessing the story and how much it affected their mindsbut I just wonder if I brought it out now, thirty years later
I haven't seen it in thirty years myself, but I wonder if its imitators have devalued it a little, the way seven years of The X-Files made Silence Of The Lambs look dated
Exactly.
It might look like a copy of the films and TV that it inspired, which have been in circulation ever since.
I assure you that I am quite capable of appreciating Kurosawa's Yojimbo and Sanjuro despite the fact that I had already seen Sergio Leone's Dollars Trilogy which massively borrows from them. I'm certain you were able to appreciate The Hidden Fortress after making the Star Wars Trilogy as well. So why do you doubt my ability to appreciate Black Angel?
... even if it's just a reason for people to brag that they've seen one of the original fantasy films ... even if it's just a chance for me to one up another person in conversation and promote my anti-social tendencies ... why wouldn't you release it in someway for the general public to digest in their homes?
I mean, if you choose not to release it then you have no intent to capitalize off of it and you should release it online via Veoh or YouTube or some video hosting site. Wouldn't the popularity and enjoyment from the film reward you in some way -- with it being your first film that you labored over?
I mean, even if it's just film snobs to appreciate it
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What's the interest in Star Wars movies anyway?
Secondly, with regards to:
It would be interesting to see a James Bond like movie in space setting
Finally, you can turn in your geek card at the door on your way out. Thanks for playing.
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"While James Cameron was on a trip to Italy he became very ill with high fever. One night he had a terrible nightmare about a huge robot with red-glowing eyes that was trying to kill him."
We don't really live like that, do we?
Welcome to the genre known as SciFi/Fantasy ... where you can escape from your gravity bound simple life and dream ...
... or at least it did for me when I was a youth.
Take your coat off and stay awhile, it's amazingly liberating when your imagination puts you in a rebel starfighter going up against insane odds trying to take down the big bad evil empire with the ability to wield a sabre of light while controlling the very concepts of physics
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I think he's just making a general comment on Star Wars in a thread tangentially related.
And his bridge probably misses its troll.
In those days history was lost because of issues with physically duplicating things. Nowadays, it is being lost because we don't own the keys to the digital locks. Perhaps in twenty years we'll come to our senses and retroactively permit the breaking of today's encryption then - for what survived.
Shh.
I mean, if his _Battlefield Earth_ is anything to go by..
Also, did he hold the camera straight?
I saw TESB the first week it was in theaters (I think it was like day 5). I distinctly remember the theater, the standing in line wrapping around the building in downtown DC for like an hour, and I think I can even picture the interior of the theater, but I do not remember this film. Perhaps it was just too weird for me, but somehow I'd think that it would've been talked about amongst my friends and such.
So was this included with all prints, or just selected theaters in selected cities?
Joss Whedon's new urban spin-off of Angel with Samuel L. Jackson as the vampire cursed with a soul... "Welcome to the Hellmouth," mother-fucker.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Okay, checking on IMDB it seems like this was only released in the UK and Canada. So my memory of, Christ, 30-year-old movie experiences, is not yet faulty.
Holy Roman Empire? You think that there were arenas in Germany during the middle ages? Remember the mnemonic: 'The Holy Roman Empire was neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire.'
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At this point? Nostalgia, mostly. Keep in mind that when it came out, there was literally nothing else like it.
In many ways, there's still nothing else like it. It is a whole universe, created from scratch. Not just an extrapolation of our own, and not just the pieces you need to see for the story. Humans are common, but not special in any particular way. They mix with aliens and robots completely, and deal with each other as equals. There are lots of places where a race is shown once, in a background character, and never seen again. Most movies wouldn't bother: It's just extra expense.
There's a feeling of history and depth to the movies (especially the original trilogy), that's nearly unique. You can write thousands of books about what else is happening in the universe, because it is a universe, and not just a setting for the story.
'Sensible' is a curse word.
"First, this is slashdot, a website for nerds. Posting a question like: "What's the interest in Star Wars movies anyway?" ...is likely to get you flogged and/or hung. "
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/. when an anti-star wars post is moderated insightful
I hope you're right, but it appears the mods have gone to lunch, because as of right now it's moderated: "(Score:1, Insightful)"
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Why doesn't he just finish off the rest of us and post how stupid star trek is
my karma will be here long after I'm gone
In many ways, there's still nothing else like it. It is a whole universe, created from scratch. Not just an extrapolation of our own, and not just the pieces you need to see for the story. Humans are common, but not special in any particular way. .... There are lots of places where a race is shown once, in a background character, and never seen again.
Lord of the Rings did it first, and better. Also, Ringworld, to some extent.
Note, about 95% of the population does not realize the LOTR series was a book for some decades before the recent movies. I've actually heard people refer to the LOTR books as being "novelizations of the movies". Um, no.
"Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
....Why doesn't he just finish off the rest of us and post how stupid star trek is
That has to be posted?
Just so long as Natalie Portman does those sequels as well.
I was about to suggest "Outland" as another "James Bond in space" movie -- hey, it even has Sean Connery! Then I remembered that it was actually more like "High Noon in space."
Those fuckin' hobbit movies were boring as hell. All it was, was a bunch of people walking. Three movies of people walking to a fucking volcano.
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Sad that the editors of Slashdot had to claim it was a film that accompanied Empire Strikes Back when it was nothing even close to that. Crazy what they'll do for a few extra bucks in advertising views huh?
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Well, if you are going to bring some books to the discussion, I would include Lucas' source material, the epics of Homer.
Oh come on ... The Simpsons was a decent show, but hardly an epic!
And, anyway, what's that got to do with books?
Finally, I find this by chance and find the name of the short film I've been trying to find out about for the last 30 years...
And it's not available to buy... *sigh*
Yeah but Outland was sooo much better than Moonraker.
But not than Barbarella.
"Do you want to come and play with me? For someone like you I charge nothing. You're very pretty, Pretty-Pretty"
"My name isn't pretty-pretty, it's Barbarella."
Even the dialogues leave Moonraker in the dust.
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Just don't count Alien:Resurrection. Still, the world created in Aliens is still "earth"... Everything in your list (I don't know about Cowboy Bebop) originates on earth... not "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away."
:) No movie, not even the mighty Blade Runner has stuck with me and fully enveloped my life like Star Wars. All other movies I watch are compared to them. I grew up living, breathing, and experiencing Star Wars. Sure I made Lucas rich, but I thank him for some great stories (so they were old hat) set in a universe that was cool. There was no Prime Directive... no one was attempting to make out with the green alien chick, and the menace was larger, more sinister and more expansive than Aliens who suck your face. (That's not to say I don't enjoy Trek and Alien... Aliens is my favorite of the series, and I love the director's cut of Alien 3). I just love Star Wars MUCH more. I am truly a Star Wars fanatic.
I know you put Mork & Mindy in there for the laugh track, and it doesn't diminish Alien or Trek... but Star Wars was something else... it wasn't earth. They looked human, and the world was fully realized. There was stuff going on, even before the S.E.'s. It was grimy, dirty, and lived-in. It wasn't 2001. And for that, Lucas should be praised.
They are still my favorite movies of all time, and I saw A New Hope at a DRIVE IN theater in Santa Clara, California for crying out loud.
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What happened to you slashdot? First funny comments were getting modded insightful for karma. Now insightful posts are getting modded funny. Has the whole world goNE CRAZY?
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