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Iran Hacks US Spy Sites

superapecommando writes "Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps hacked into 29 websites affiliated with US espionage networks, Iran's semi-official Fars News Agency reported on Sunday. 'The hacked websites acted against Iran's national security under the cover of human rights activities,' Fars reported. It did not disclose details of the attacks. The Internet has been used by Iranian opposition groups who contested the results of last year's elections there to organize demonstrations and share information about protests and arrests. The Revolutionary Guards is a military group that was founded after Iran's 1979 revolution. The group includes conventional army, navy, air force, and intelligence units, as well as the Basij paramilitary force and various business units."

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  1. Not that I put a lot of trust in *our* reports by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm usually the first one to blame America when I see slanted reporting that seemingly puts our "enemies" in a very poor light, but this time I think we are looking at some pretty piss-poor Iranian folly.

    Websites are passive. They respond to clients. They do not strike out on their own. So "hacking" them and shutting them down isn't really any sort of solution at all.

    The Basij are a pretty rough security force compared to any typical military or paramilitary group. Despite their unprofessionalism, they are at the core of Iranian governmental security. They were instrumental in shutting down the election protests last year.

    1. Re:Not that I put a lot of trust in *our* reports by nicolas.kassis · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, I think what they were trying to prevent is those site providing information to the opposition inside the country. I don't think they meant attacking Iranian's IT infrastructure with websites. Just helping the opposition organize and give them information. In that sense I see why they would want to shut those sites down. On the other hand, I think those sites might be a good thing if they help the Iranian opposition group organize but I'm a biased westerner.

    2. Re:Not that I put a lot of trust in *our* reports by NotBornYesterday · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Nice headline. These idiots make it sound like the Basji took down the firewalls at Langley and laid waste to the CIA's cyberwar infrastructure. More appropriate headline: "Iranian script kiddies take down website; blame US".

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    3. Re:Not that I put a lot of trust in *our* reports by nomadic · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nice headline. These idiots make it sound like the Basji took down the firewalls at Langley and laid waste to the CIA's cyberwar infrastructure. More appropriate headline: "Iranian script kiddies take down website; blame US".

      An even more accurate headline: "Iranian government takes down human rights websites, accusing them of 'espionage'."

  2. Re:When are they by NotBornYesterday · · Score: 5, Informative

    Who is the "they" you are referring to? Just to clarify, the Iranians themselves are claiming they hacked these sites, not the US.

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  3. Re:Amazing by HungryHobo · · Score: 4, Informative

    This still isn't a "cyberwar" this is just iran arresting human rights activists and calling them spies/traitor with a thin justification.

    Anything governments try is still lost in the noise http://www.attrition.org/mirror/attrition/

  4. Spy Websites?!? by nullhero · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I thought the idea of being a spy was to stay hidden. Why would you have a site if you are a spy? Oh...I get it to prop up the idea of a cyberwar. So when you get hacked you can tell everyone , "See I told you it was true!". Of course my next question is for the Iranians: dude why would the United State operate a spy website? Do you really think that the US government would put sensitive info in a website? Of course we are talking about the United States so anything is possible.

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    1. Re:Spy Websites?!? by sjames · · Score: 5, Informative

      They were only U.S. spy sites in the sense that officially no right thinking Iranian would be against the government, so it would have to be a CIA plot Q.E.D.

    2. Re:Spy Websites?!? by hey! · · Score: 3, Informative

      What they're talking about websites that are critical of human rights in Iran. Their contention is that all the bad news about Iran is a western psy-ops ploy.

      Calling such sites "spy websites" is not an oxymoron by any means. Spying isn't just about getting information; it's about planting disinformation too.

      The domains they are targeting mostly belong to one "KEYVAN RAFIEE", with a contact address in a small suburban condo building in Silver Spring MD. It is also the same address used for a small media production company. Some of the domains under that name have as contract address a private home in Woodland CA.

      Overall, this not inconsistent with this Mr. Rafiee being a private human rights activist, nor with him being a frontman for a US intelligence operation.

      That said, the most credible explanation is this is just disinformation on Iran's part. We've all seen the riots, which were definitely not staged. We've all heard the pronouncements of Mr. Ahmadinejad, which stink of propaganda. This does not mean *we* don't have our own propaganda, but it's clear that the Iranian government would try to portray any criticism as being from the CIA, especially given the CIA's unfortunate history in that country.

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  5. Re:Not 29 Web Sites by HungryHobo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Doesn't really matter, they could have been CIA fronts of they could have been genuine human rights stuff.
    Either way the activists identified(or possibly spies) are going to be shot as traitors or spies.

  6. Worst summary ever by DJ+Jones · · Score: 4, Interesting
    • A website is a passive entity that serves content; there's no such thing as a proactive-espionage-"attack" website. Grow up.
    • They were Iranian human rights websites. The article says (in quotes) that the Fars news network drew a tie to US intelligence with no details to back up that claim.
    • Fars news somehow linked this incident to other US funded groups that were arrested on a different occasion? with no citation.

    First off, Fars news is the equivalent of Fox News in the US. They decide the news before it happens. Second off, the only thing worse than this crappy article with no references is CmdrTaco's poor summary of it that insinuates that the US was funding these sites even though the article says nothing about that being true.

    1. Re:Worst summary ever by Low+Ranked+Craig · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Last time I checked Fars was the mouthpiece of the Iranian government, and Fox has been extremely critical of the current administration and congress. Your analogy is flawed. Also most of what is on Fox is commentary, not news. The "News" on Fox seems to be pretty much like the other news channels: sensational and fluffy with a sprinkle of pseudo-intellectualism.

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    2. Re:Worst summary ever by sjames · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Fox also decides what the news is rather than reporting it. They just happen to be attached to the Republican party rather than to the government in general.

    3. Re:Worst summary ever by DJ+Jones · · Score: 3, Informative

      OK... and Fox News is the mouth piece of the Republican Party. The fact that Rupert Mudoch's media machine is openly against a democratic administration is not surprising to anyone. My analogy is not flawed, I merely alluded to the fact that the opinions put forth by both Fox News and Fars News are decided well before the facts are divulged. They are equivalent propaganda machines with heavy ties to one political party. Neither one can be considered a respectable "news" organization by any journalistic standards.

  7. Re:Not 29 Web Sites by Critical+Facilities · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wouldn't be surprised if they were CIA fronts

    That would surprise me. What wouldn't surprise me is if the 29 domains are all linked to the Iranian government. I think this is a ruse, designed to create the illusion that the Iranian government is a) capable enough to pre-emptively strike its "cyber attackers and b) to paint the Iranian government as a victim of attack, as opposed to the attacker.

  8. Softhack by nten · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So one side hacks computers because the other side is using computers to hack brains. I don't consider that just cause. Humans have built in firewalls against BS. Yes they can be overcome, but generally that is called persuasion, or deception depending on the validity of the information being uploaded. And keeping your populace sheltered from the outside might prevent the internet from hacking them, but in face to face conversations they will be even more vulnerable due to their ignorance.

    On the bright side, I can't wait to watch the wars between cognitive dictatorships once we all upload.*

    * Yes someone *has* been reading too much Stross.

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  9. Re:Bad Article Title by rahvin112 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Iranian Government has been desperate to tie the current protests to US involvement. Without that connection they are beating up their own people, with the connection they are stopping "the great satan" from interfering in their internal affairs. I don't know why this surprises anyone, they put people to death a few weeks ago by saying they were working for the west. They are desperate to convince their own public that these election protests have been orchestrated by the US, in fact I would go so far as to say that the more paranoid members of their government are convinced of such and will do anything including manufacturing evidence of such to convince the general public they are right.

    If these protests are all internally comprised they are no better than the shah, and regardless of how they feel about things they don't want to have themselves compared to him. They greatly fear that what happened to the shah could happen to them, they must convince everyone that the US is involved so they justify their own repressive actions.

  10. Re:Amazing by badboy_tw2002 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    FTFA:

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    Human Rights Activists in Iran (HRAI). Information previously available on the site included a report on 400 Iranian opposition protesters that were arrested on 4 November, 2009, an Iranian holiday that marks the anniversary of the 1979 takeover of the US Embassy in Tehran, according to a cached version of the site.

    It was not clear whether HRAI had ties to US intelligence organisations or whether the Fars report labeled them as such due to their apparent sympathy for opposition protesters. The Fars report did not tie any of the websites to a specific US government entity.

    This is not the opening salvo of a cyber war you were looking for, move along.

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    Its of course plausible that these were CIA fronts, but I'm going to go with "excuse to silence some critics", much like how they say every single one of the millions of protesters in Iran is a paid US operative dedicated to overthrowing the perfect religious dictatorship that no one would possibly be unhappy with.

  11. Re:Amazing by HungryHobo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The military of a foreign government, with whom we have had less than cordial relations for at least 30 years, hacked some websites.
    They claimed they were US spy websites.
    They then proceeded to round up a bunch of people they didn't like and called them spies.

    I'd call this business as usual in *insert oppressive nation*.

    I'd question why the hell the Intel community would use open websites and specifically open websites which keep logs or in other way keep lists of all operatives.
    The NSA has more cryptographers working for them than any other body on earth and you think they couldn't come up with a decent deniable, secure stenography scheme?

    If you want to let someone communicate securely from inside hostile territory you don't give them a login to ultraspies.com and let the local government see their unusual connection to that site every week.

    You hide your encrypted messages stenographically inside some lolcat pictures on some happy little facebook channel for people who love knitting.
    (assuming you can find your arse with both hands and there is always the chance that the NSA and CIA can't manage that).

    I'd say there's not much chance that the people arrested are any kind of real spies.

  12. you mean "ALLEGED" by wisebabo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Never have I seen an article title more in need of the word "Alleged"

    As in: Iran Hacks ALLEGED US Spy Sites

    Like you are going to believe that "Iran's semi-official Fars News Agency" isn't going to make unsubstantiated claims? (I know double negative, but here it ain't wrong).