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Scientists Demonstrate Mammalian Tissue Regeneration

telomerewhythere writes "A quest that began over a decade ago with a chance observation has reached a milestone: the identification of a gene that may regulate regeneration in mammals. The absence of this single gene, called p21, confers a healing potential in mice long thought to have been lost through evolution and reserved for creatures like flatworms, sponges, and some species of salamander. 'Unlike typical mammals, which heal wounds by forming a scar, these mice begin by forming a blastema, a structure associated with rapid cell growth and de-differentiation as seen in amphibians. According to the Wistar researchers, the loss of p21 causes the cells of these mice to behave more like embryonic stem cells than adult mammalian cells, and their findings provide solid evidence to link tissue regeneration to the control of cell division. "Much like a newt that has lost a limb, these mice will replace missing or damaged tissue with healthy tissue that lacks any sign of scarring," said the project's lead scientist.' Here is the academic paper for those with PNAS access."

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  1. So by jimbobborg · · Score: 4, Funny

    We can all be Wolverine now? Cool!

    1. Re:So by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Minus the Claws. And the Adamantite interior. And the Rugged good looks - in your case, anyways.

    2. Re:So by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just being alive causes cancer, eventually ...

    3. Re:So by TheMeuge · · Score: 5, Informative

      I have a feeling you should know something about the subject before weighing in.

      p21 knockout mice don't appear to get cancer more than wild-type mice, interestingly enough...

      It's interesting, because p53 is a major regulator of p21 expression, and p21 itself is a major player in regulating cell cycle progression into S-phase, thus controlling cell replication. p53 knockouts, on the other hand, are extremely prone to cancer, as p53 is one of the most important tumor-suppressor genes.

      The paper is interesting because the authors demonstrate that two separate strains of mice that contain a p21 deficiency can both regenerate differentiated tissue (measured by looking at ear-hole closure), supporting the link between p21/cell cycle progression and tissue regeneration. Whether this is of consequence therapeutically is a different story, but I'd be very interested to see the same study repeated in wild-type mice being fed or injected a small molecule p21 inhibitor.

    4. Re:So by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And the Rugged good looks - in your case, anyways.

      It takes a special kind of man to pull off that haircut.

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    5. Re:So by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Funny

      And be wary that this rather serious matter may take a tumorous twist.

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    6. Re:So by Jurily · · Score: 2, Funny

      And the Adamantite interior.

      You missed an expansion pack. He upgraded to Saronite when he reached 80.

    7. Re:So by Scubaraf · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The cancer concern is a legitimate one. These p21 knockouts are lab mice kept in clean conditions. They may not develop cancers in a three year span, but that demonstrates little about the oncogenic potential in humans.

      I'm assuming there is some evolutionary reason for curtailing a vigorous healing response. It maybe to reduce the cancer rate, but it could just as simply be something else very important - regulation of immune response for example.

      One potentially useful experiment would be to challenge these mice with carcinogen (like ENU) and see what their cancer rate is compared to controls. Alternatively, you could use genetic means (insertion of oncogenes or mating to mice with knocked out tumor suppressor genes) to see if the cancers they develop are more aggressive or more likely to metastasize. In any case, this is a very cool finding.

    8. Re:So by jimbobborg · · Score: 2, Informative

      However, his healing factor results in massive scar tissue causing his appearance to be severely disfigured.

      No scarring with this stuff.

    9. Re:So by Syberz · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have a feeling you should know something about the subject before weighing in.

      You sir are hanging out on the wrong internets.

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    10. Re:So by RsG · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You are correct. In point of fact, around 90% of the time when you hear that "X gives you cancer" what you should instead read it as is "X causes cancer to happen sooner". Usually this means that exposure to risk factor X reduces your ability to fight off cancer. You've probably got a few carcinogenic cells in you right now that are going to be killed off before they do you any harm. Obviously this doesn't apply in every single case - ionizing radiation falls into that other 10% that really does cause cancer directly - but when you see cancer linked to, say, stress, that falls under the other 90%.

      I don't think that tissue regeneration will cause cancer to happen more frequently, for two reasons. The first is that the healing process in humans already accelerates cancer. As do certain immune responses. Essentially, every bit of damage you pick up over your lifetime accelerates the inevitable rise of carcinogenesis by some tiny amount. Regeneration, done correctly, probably won't worsen this.

      The second reason is that the reason mammals don't regenerate naturally has to do with speed, not safety. The healing process in mammals essentially slaps a quick patch over the damage in order to get you healthy sooner; we call this patch a scar. Regenerating vertebrates (amphibians, some reptiles) take longer to heal, but heal more completely, which is substantially more viable when you're cold blooded and can go a few days without more food. At some point in our distant evolutionary past, scarring became a more viable approach to damage, as it fixed us up sooner, so selection pressure favored the scarring over the regenerating. Lack of regeneration in humans is a matter of what worked in the wild for our ancestors, not what works today, where the injured have plenty of time to recuperate, and don't run the risk of starvation or predation.

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    11. Re:So by natehoy · · Score: 3, Funny

      I heard you were looking for some, so I went back in time and destroyed them all on this planet.

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    12. Re:So by Luyseyal · · Score: 2, Funny

      There's an analogy with software development in there somewhere, if I could just flesh it out.

      Oh, I've got it. Managers will choose the quick patch over the proper fix every time due to competitive pressure.

      Where are my free internets?
      -l

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    13. Re:So by Stephen+Tennant · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm sure many a Slashdot reader will receive an upgrade in the looks department when they are able to heal acne scars. Now excuse me while I prepare for troll modding from butthurt pizzaface.

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  2. Now I can finally start my restaurant... by Culture20 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now I can finally start my restaurant (which specializes in mouse-tail delicacies) without PETA breathing down my neck. "Look: it's growing back!" Mouse-tail soup anyone?

    1. Re:Now I can finally start my restaurant... by Bakkster · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Waiter, there's a blastema in my soup."

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    2. Re:Now I can finally start my restaurant... by Hatta · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Of course PETA believes any sort of servitude by animals is the same as slavery. They'll never be happy. After all, if they ever got everything they wanted they'd have to find something useful to do with their lives.

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    3. Re:Now I can finally start my restaurant... by thijsh · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Something useful... like ending actual ongoing *human* slavery? Nah... PETA finds it more worthwhile to kill (uhhh 'rescue') some more animals: http://www.petakillsanimals.com/.

    4. Re:Now I can finally start my restaurant... by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The worst part of it is, science believes that cats 'self domesticated'. If anything, denying humans the right to keep cats as pets is animal abuse, since it is denying them an adaptation they developed themselves.

      Who ever said these people used logic though?

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    5. Re:Now I can finally start my restaurant... by Hatta · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think instead that it was cats who domesticated humans.

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    6. Re:Now I can finally start my restaurant... by HornWumpus · · Score: 4, Funny

      The cat the lives in my house has owners.

      My dogs.

      I feed the 'orange devil' though.

      The girl Lab thinks the little fucker is her baby. So does the cat. Lets her lick him clean like a new mama dog.

      The cat and the German shepherd play a game with the other neighborhood cats. The cat picks a fight then 'runs like a Frenchman' back to my yard where the dog pounces on the neighbor cat. Repeat.

      Might be a problem if he didn't knows cats are way more fun to chase then they are to catch.

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  3. Degeneration by tedgyz · · Score: 2, Funny

    You know this discussion will degenerate into how this can be applied to growing a longer penis.

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    1. Re:Degeneration by protodevilin · · Score: 3, Funny

      Then I hope it doesn't involve having to amputate the penis first.

    2. Re:Degeneration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't see why it should. Just have the doctor cause a new one to grow there next to the one you already have. Then, when the new one is in place, have tubing moved over, and the old one removed. Or just keep both, whatever strikes your fancy.

      Damn I can't believe I just spent that much time thinking that through... I'm glad I thought to post as AC.

  4. It will be interesting to see... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What the side effects are. One would(perhaps naively) assume that regeneration is an obvious survival advantage, and that losing regenerative capabilities would be a handicap. That being so, one would tend to suspect that an anti-regeneration gene would be fairly strongly selected against. Since this gene is, in fact, rampant in mammals, one is led to the suspicion that there must be some sort of upside.

    Is it something more or less irrelevant to modern humans(at least those wealthy enough to ever be genetically engineered), something like "without any sort of medical care, most serious injuries were fatal before regeneration could occur, so the extra energy costs weren't worth it", or is it some kicker of the "Well, without a whole bunch of other adaptations possessed by certain amphibians and creepy-crawlies, you'll 'regenerate' yourself entirely full of tumors by age 20." flavor?

    1. Re:It will be interesting to see... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Think of it this way: MOST of the time, your body tries mightily to STOP things from growing - those are typically cancers (uncontrolled cell division). It may have been easier in the evolutionary sense to shut down regeneration than to deal with it's consequences.

      Remember, you are not a newt.

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    2. Re:It will be interesting to see... by bcmm · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Scarring is much faster, and probably carries a lower risk of infection for creatures that don't have access to medical care.

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    3. Re:It will be interesting to see... by AioKits · · Score: 4, Funny

      Remember, you are not a newt.

      I got better...

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    4. Re:It will be interesting to see... by pesho · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I second this. p21 is what you call a 'tumor suppressor' gene. Without p21 it is significantly easier to get cancer. It would matter less to mice, because of their short lifespan and different DNA damage repair strategy (fix aggressively active genes, don't care much about the rest). For humans with life span ten times longer compared to mice, this is real deal breaker. These mice also appear to have some sort of autoimmune disease.

    5. Re:It will be interesting to see... by Scrameustache · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What the side effects are. One would(perhaps naively) assume that regeneration is an obvious survival advantage, and that losing regenerative capabilities would be a handicap. That being so, one would tend to suspect that an anti-regeneration gene would be fairly strongly selected against. Since this gene is, in fact, rampant in mammals, one is led to the suspicion that there must be some sort of upside.
      Is it something more or less irrelevant to modern humans(at least those wealthy enough to ever be genetically engineered), something like "without any sort of medical care, most serious injuries were fatal before regeneration could occur, so the extra energy costs weren't worth it", or is it some kicker of the "Well, without a whole bunch of other adaptations possessed by certain amphibians and creepy-crawlies, you'll 'regenerate' yourself entirely full of tumors by age 20." flavor?

      Well, FTFA: "In normal cells, p21 acts like a brake to block cell cycle progression in the event of DNA damage, preventing the cells from dividing and potentially becoming cancerous," Heber-Katz said. "In these mice without p21, we do see the expected increase in DNA damage, but surprisingly no increase in cancer has been reported."
      In fact, the researchers saw an increase in apoptosis in MRL mice -- also known as programmed cell death -- the cell's self-destruct mechanism that is often switched on when DNA has been damaged. According to Heber-Katz, this is exactly the sort of behavior seen in naturally regenerative creatures.

      Maybe this gene was like the scaffolding you build before building an arch, and now that we have evolved the rest of the cancer-fighting-arch, we can remove the p21 scaffolding.
      Or maybe this will end up like thalidomide. I say we proceed with cautious optimism.

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    6. Re:It will be interesting to see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Shortened lifespan resulting from telomere depletion?

      As cells divide, a structure on each chromosome called a telomere assists with the DNA strand re-zipping after it gets copied. Each time this happens, the telomere gets slightly damaged.

      Runaway cell division in cancer is usually enabled by the production of a repair enzyme called telomerase, which repairs telomere structures. The cancerous cell is usually already featuring several noteworthy transcription and replication errors, which is what prompts this change in behavior.

      In healthy tissue, the production of telomerase would not be initiated, and so after aggressive tissue regeneration, whole cell cultures could start having apoptosis set in, as these telomeres degenerate past their useful life, which would result in huge amounts of necrosis going on.

      Being able to do this "Regenerative" trick would be very handy in the operating room, but not so handy in daily life, because of it's increased risk factors, including a potentially much shorter lifespan.

      I am interested to see if the p21 knockout effect can be replicated using a synthetic antagonist for the coded protein/enzyme. That would allow for an injectible to be given a few days before surgery, which would eventually wear off, and you would get the best of both worlds.

    7. Re:It will be interesting to see... by SydShamino · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If on the other hand you make the presumption that an ancestor species had it, then you might wonder why we lost that ability. Sure, it might not affect survivability before age of reproduction either way. But then why did only those without the ability survive?

      It's a reasonable question when looked at from that angle.

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  5. Which way first? by spaceman375 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The next step is to make some p21 specific RNA interference molecules and shut it down in an adult, non-regenerative mouse. Then clip its ear and see what happens.
    Since it also increases apoptosis, would this make a good diet pill?

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    1. Re:Which way first? by Deosyne · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Screw that. 6.5+ billion people on this planet, many with a propensity toward cutting, scarring, beating, or even killing themselves, and we can't find just one who will volunteer to have this done so that we can see what will happen in a human? Christ, I could find a couple of dozen people in the next hour who would be willing to go on a suicide mission to Mars. Doing this kind of thing to an unwilling victim is straight-up evil, but finding volunteers really can't be that hard. Let's just answer the real question that we're trying to solve for rather than relying on these half-assed measures that take years to get to the point.

  6. Re:I for one... by ircmaxell · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, they claim that they thought it was "lost to evolution"... I assume the fact that the gene is not active today is the result of evolution. So that implies the question Why is it inactive? I would think the ability to regenerate body parts on demand would be an evolutionary advantage, wouldn't it? So something must not work correctly (or there must be some kind of side effect)... It could be as simple as we didn't have enough nutrition at the time to be able to support it, and would die of malnourishment when we'd otherwise live with the injury... But I do agree, it does seem "too easy". They must be a negative here that we haven't figured out... I guess it's time to welcome our new self-healing mouse overlords...

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  7. Re:I for one... by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Macro vs Micro. Regenerating body parts is great. Pretty much freezing genetic diversity with a bunch of near immortal beings? Not so much.

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  8. All very nice stuff, but... by Nihiltres · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...in practice, do we have the technology to knock this gene out in humans? That's the key thing. Either you have to engineer every human to have the gene before birth, or you have to do a live fix. And a live fix has all sorts of complications.

    Of course, I'm completely ignoring potential side effects. This is best if you imagine a drug for it being advertised: "Regrowitol may cause side effects including cancer, accessory limbs, mutation into evil lizard creature..."

    We're living in the future, sure. But we don't have all the cheat codes for reality yet.

  9. What's the downside? by Biotech9 · · Score: 4, Informative

    A lot of people are asking why evolution has taken away our regenerative capacities, and are guessing what the downside of this regeneration is.

    P21 is involved with anti-cancer. It arrests the cell cycle when DNA damage occurs, allowing the damage to be repaired (so mistakes are not carried forward into new generations). Or if the damage is too severe, the cell is made senescent (they lose the ability to reproduce and instead lead out a gentle retirement, performing their normal job until they just die of old age)

    P21 knockout mice show a lot of carcinomas and P21 is also up-regulated by and works to remedy excessive oxidative stress. It's very unlikely this research is going to lead to a pill that knocks out P21 and lets us grow limbs back. It will only lead to a greater understanding of how our pathways work.

  10. Re:I for one... by nblender · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Not all mutations are good. Some mutations are bad. Sometimes multiple mutations occur at the same time... Maybe another highly beneficial mutation occurred at the same time as this one was lost... Imagine losing a limb... Not as easy to run away from predators while your limb is growing back... May not have been advantageous enough..

  11. caveat by TheMeuge · · Score: 4, Informative

    Of course the caveat to using mice to judge how a gene affects long-term development of cancer is that there really is no "long-term" on a human scale in mouse studies, since they only live about 3 years at most.

    I'm also not entirely familiar with the effect of p21-deficiency in cases where major tumor suppressors are deregulated or otherwise deficient. It is feasible that in the absence of further regulation, the absence of a major cell cycle checkpoint will lead to a more severe phenotype, whether in terms of being more tumor prone, or development of more aggressive tumors.

    1. Re:caveat by egomaniac · · Score: 3, Informative

      Primarily because they are cheap to breed and raise, take up very little space, reach maturity quickly, and people usually don't freak out about experiments on mice the same way they would on (say) primates.

      They are also an acceptable human analogue in that they generally respond to medication and treatments similarly to how a human would; there are certainly other animals which are better models, but there are logistical, economic and public relations issues with trying to keep hundreds of chimpanzees in order to punch holes in their ears.

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    2. Re:caveat by somersault · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The article also says this:

      In fact, the researchers saw an increase in apoptosis in MRL mice -- also known as programmed cell death -- the cell's self-destruct mechanism that is often switched on when DNA has been damaged. According to Heber-Katz, this is exactly the sort of behavior seen in naturally regenerative creatures.

      Does that mean shorter lifespan for the lifeform overall, or does it simply mean that individual cells will die regularly and then quickly be regenerated?

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    3. Re:caveat by rockNme2349 · · Score: 3, Funny

      there are logistical, economic and public relations issues with trying to keep hundreds of chimpanzees in order to punch holes in their ears.

      Ahh, high school...

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    4. Re:caveat by ArbitraryDescriptor · · Score: 2, Funny

      You could probably keep 10+ mice, quite comfortably, in the volume of space an adult pig takes up. I could probably keep 100 caged mice in my office, with ample room for them to run around and live relatively normal mouse-lives; whereas a single pig would probably be tearing this place up and demanding half* its body weight in food everyday. It would be ridiculous.

      No, the logical solution here is to find out which gene we need to turn off to make mice taste like pork and just go from there.

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  12. Re:I for one... by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "I would think the ability to regenerate body parts on demand would be an evolutionary advantage"

    What advantage could regeneration provide when survival rates for amputation were abysmal before modern medicine?

    Maybe changes in bacteria made regeneration pointless in larger lifeforms (which take longer to heal)?

    It's speculation, but I guess the only way we can know if it can be done is to experiment.

  13. Re:Be careful when fooling Mother Nature by compro01 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I can think of a couple reasons why this feature may have been dropped. nutrition (regrowing something is a hell of a lot more resource intensive than just closing the hole) and infection prevention (just closing the hole is a lot faster than regrowing something, so less chance of it getting infected). Both of these were relevant considerations very recently and evolution is pretty slow.

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  14. Re:Spider-Man's Lizard by serialband · · Score: 2, Informative

    Isn't this the backstory to the Lizard? He tries to regrow his arm using amphibian DNA, and whoops - he turns into a Lizard.

    Hm, it sounds really stupid now that I've typed it out.

    Lizards are reptiles.

  15. Re:I for one... by david.given · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I would think the ability to regenerate body parts on demand would be an evolutionary advantage, wouldn't it?

    Not necessarily. A lot of small animals are pretty much disposable: they're sufficiently fragile that there's only a very narrow boundary between a trivial injury and a fatal one. (And anyone who's kept small birds and animals will know that if they're hurt beyond a certain point they'll simply go into shock and die.)

    So it's entirely plausible that the gene might have been caused by a spot mutation very early on while all mammals were basically mice, and it then had a sufficiently small effect on actual survivability that the trait didn't get bred out. Later, once the small, disposable animals turned into large, expensive ones, it was too late.

    It is interesting that both birds and animals appear to lack this trait, though. We both descend from much the same sort of lizards but in different directions. Finding out exactly where this gene sequence appeared might be productive.

    (Of course, I want to know when we'll be able to get gene therapy to suppress the gene. Assuming it works in humans, and that the gene doesn't do anything else critical, it might even be fairly straightforward! But probably won't happen soon and I'm certainly not volunteering to be the guinea pig...)

  16. Re:I for one... by PaulMeigh · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When you are driving in your car and run over a nail, it's often cheaper to just patch the tire rather than to replace it. You're generally back on the road faster as well.

  17. Re:I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In case of large animals it may take very long to replace the lost body part. Maybe adaptation is simply faster, and more energy efficient. Same probably for grievous wounds. Or maybe it's just not worth it at all, and the time it took to replace or get over such injury resulted in death of both. But the suppressed gene code was easier to write? Damn lazy programmers...

  18. Re:Be careful when fooling Mother Nature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sure anyone with even a vague knowledge of evolution and basic highschool genetics will worry, but as long as they make vague promises like bigger dicks, hair regrowth and weight loss pills, they won't have any problems.

  19. Re:Be careful when fooling Mother Nature by zwei2stein · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Any form of health care is dangerous this way.

    Consider this: we can (and do) save many children with birth defects, often we are succesfull enough so that they can leard normal life (and even be oblivious to any issues). Problem is that some of theese defects are hereditary. Guess what? Next generation is worse off as far as ratio of defects is concerned.

    We obviously will never do "sparta" thing and kill of children society finds undesirable. Nor will anyone with genetic defect be prevented from having children. Neither is civilized resolution or would be even remotelly popular (would you want to risk your child falling victim to it? noone would.)

    Anyway, I would not worry about this particular medical advance. This regeneration propably caused cancer if it got out of controll (cancer with nondiversified cells as medium is quite scarry).

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  20. Not all mutations are bad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This might be true, the bad mutation might even be non fatal but that is not really the point. The thing to consider is the evolutionary advantage (or disadvantage) it gives. I would think that bad mutations give an evolutionary disadvantage and thus be selected against. So the question really is... "What sort of evolutionary advantage does it impart?" I really don't know the answer and I suspect that the researchers are just beginning to answer that question.

  21. Re:Be careful when fooling Mother Nature by DrMaurer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think you have an interesting point here on the resource requirements of regeneration. Part of the obesity problem is that our bodies evolved to store whatever they couldn't use right now for later, so it stands to reason that such things were "turned off" for efficiency's sake. We didn't necessarily evolve in a land of plenty

    As for infection rates, I would like to see that study done, too...

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  22. Re:Be careful when fooling Mother Nature by lawpoop · · Score: 4, Funny

    Darwinism is cruel... Nature does things for a reason.

    Narture wants to be anthropomorphized ;)

    It nature is so cruel and barbaric, then for what reason did it evolve human beings who feel sympathy, empathy, are able to learn, and practice healing arts?

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  23. I don't know anything beyond high school biology. by calibre-not-output · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But this still makes me giddy for the future of Medicine.

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  24. Promissing but... by Corson · · Score: 2, Informative

    It is unlikely that a process so complex as mammalian tissue regeneration be controlled by a single gene. Moreover, p21 mutations have been associated with cancers. Which brings forth another question: why is it that only "lower" organisms (and mammalian fetuses) are capable of scar-less tissue regeneration? The answer is yet to be discovered but it is very likely that evolution had to stroke a balance between cancer control and tissue regeneration. It won't be easy to figure out "the way back" to regeneration, or even to avoid the risks of such a path.

  25. Re:I for one... by tmosley · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ummm, the ability to regenerate lost body parts doesn't make you immortal. It just makes it less likely that the loss of an arm or a leg will end your life.

  26. Re:I for one... by tmosley · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And it is easy to run away without a limb at all?

    If simply switching off the one gene is enough to allow regeneration, then it WOULD happen with an incidence similar to other single base pair change genetic defects. Something else is going on here. It could be that larger animals with the gene turned off die in the womb or something.

  27. Re:Be careful when fooling Mother Nature by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Part of the obesity problem ...

    So this gene will be a solution to that problem as well:

    You're fat? No problem, just lop off a leg, it'll regrow, and in the process consume the excess belly...

  28. Re:I for one... by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, they claim that they thought it was "lost to evolution"... I assume the fact that the gene is not active today is the result of evolution. So that implies the question Why is it inactive? I would think the ability to regenerate body parts on demand would be an evolutionary advantage, wouldn't it?.

    Supposedly around 8% of human DNA was inserted by viruses into our genome. It could be that a virus in the past messed up our ancestor badly enough to lose regeneration and killed of all the rest. Also evolution doesn't have a "goal" our non-regenerative ancestor was just lucky that through some trait it was the best adapted to the environment at the time and it survived. It doesn't mean regeneration had a negative side to it.

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  29. I have access to a PNAS... by zero_out · · Score: 4, Funny

    Here is the academic paper for those with PNAS access.

    I have access to a PNAS. Sometimes I let my wife have access to it, too.

  30. hold your regenerating troll-horses by bzdyelnik · · Score: 2, Informative

    The wikipedia entry for p21 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P21) is somewhat misleading about its relationship with cancer. For a good review, see: http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayFulltext?type=1&fid=1919868&jid=ERM&volumeId=10&issueId=-1&aid=1919860 Excerpt: "However, p21-null mice were found to be more susceptible to chemically induced tumours of the skin (Ref. 94) and colon (Ref. 95), and following irradiation they displayed increased tumourigenesis and metastases (Ref. 96). In addition, using different mouse strains, others have found that p21-null mice exhibit spontaneous tumour formation in the background of other genetic knockouts, such as Muc22/2 (lacking mucin 2) (Ref. 97) and Apc1638/2 (carrying a mutant allele of the adenomatosis polyposis coli gene) (Ref. 98). Furthermore, subsequent to the initial description of p21-null mice, investigators have found that p21-null mice bred on a 129Sv/ C57BL6 50:50 background did in fact develop spontaneous tumours at an average age of 16 months (Ref. 99). Collectively, these mouse studies demonstrated the importance of p21 in mediating the G1 checkpoint, and its ability to function as a tumour suppressor."

  31. Meeces by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...since they only live about 3 years at most.

    Somebody's never watched The Green Mile.

  32. Re:PETA....... by natehoy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just remember, there's room for all of God's creatures... right there, next to the mashed potatoes.

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  33. Re:Newt Doctors? by radtea · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What medical care do newts have access to?

    It's incredibly funny to watch all the well-fed deep thinkers here scratch their heads and try to come up with complicated solutions to a trivial problem: cold blooded animals don't have to keep eating on a daily basis to survive. Ergo, they have time to regenerate. They can just find a place to curl up while it happens.

    Warm blooded animals need a much more regular food supply. Ergo, there is an advantage to them in a fast and adequate healing.

    No mysterious cancer-causing whatevers need be invoked. It is most probably a simple issue of energy budget.

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  34. Re:I for one... by dvice_null · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Or perhaps most common injury is just a small scratch, not losing your limb. Even the result looks nasty, faster healing offers one very important benefit. Open wounds tend to infect and that can cause serious illness or even death without modern medicine. It is not hard to imagine that healing your wounds a day or two faster would decrease the chance of getting sick a big time.

  35. Re:Where is the Evolutionary Advantage? by pydev · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Presumably in the past there must have been some evolutionary advantage to developing scars rather than regrowing a new limb.

    Speed is one possible reason. Another may be that a lot of scars are caused by things that persist (e.g. splinters, fibers, parasites), and it is potentially useful to encapsulate them in fibrous tissue, rather than regenerating normal tissue.

  36. Likely increases cancer by SoopahMan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As you demonstrate you already know, cancer prevention is partly about restricting the uncontrolled growth of cells; a tumor is cells growing without controls, so many natural defenses against cancer place controls on cell growth, sometimes by inhibiting healthy cell growth as well.

    Turning off a gene like p21 is probably going to impact your body's ability to control and respond to cancer:

    http://www.google.com/search?q=p21+cancer

    In particular, in that search is a powerpoint presentation discussing the body's immunoresponse to cancer, in which p53 initiates and governs several important responses, one of which involves turning on p21 to begin replacing it with healthy cells.

    Obviously, that observed response goes away if you knock out p21; it's likely that without the aid of that process, the process is impacted and cancer is more likely to succeed.

    There are numerous other examples of p21 aiding cancer prevention, removal, and replacement in that search - have a look.

    I'd like to see the comparative cancer rates of normal mice and p21-knockout mice.