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Indian Military Hopes to Weaponize the Searing "Ghost Pepper"

coondoggie writes "The military in India is looking to weaponize the world's hottest chili, the bhut jolokia or 'ghost pepper,' according to a number of news outlets. The Bhut Jolokia chili pepper from Assam, India is no ordinary pepper. In tests first conducted by the New Mexico State University in 2008 and subsequently confirmed by Guinness World records and others, the Bhut Jolokia reached over one million Scoville heat units, while the next hottest, the Red Savina Habenero, clocks in at a mere 577,000. Scoville units are a universally accepted measure of chili hotness."

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  1. OK ... by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 5, Funny
    ... but how does this compare to the Merciless Pepper of Quetzalacatenango, also known as the Guatemalan Insanity Pepper?

    Scoville units are a universally accepted measure of chili hotness

    I thought SCOville was universally accepted to be a litigious outhouse?

  2. Not needed? by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 5, Funny

    From past experience I can recommened the development of a chicken Vindaloo bomb. It will cause injuries when dropped then again about 24 hours later.

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    1. Re:Not needed? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Funny

      And here I was thinking more like 15 minutes.

      But seriously, weaponized Indian food, aside from being redundant, has got to be banned by some kind of international treaty.

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  3. Four Horsemen burger of San Antonio, TX by logicassasin · · Score: 4, Informative

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kO7MlHgJLA

    Hopefully that's the right link.

    There's a burger in TX that uses this pepper called the Four Horsemen Burger. As of the taping of this episode of Man Vs Food, only three people had managed to finish one in 25 minutes, with an additional 5 minutes of waiting without liquids. The host of the show became number 4, though it looked like he wasn't going to get past even the first bite.

    Isn't that illegal (internationally) if a weapon causes this much pain and suffering?

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    1. Re:Four Horsemen burger of San Antonio, TX by corbettw · · Score: 4, Funny

      In India it's a weapon, in Texas it's a condiment. Yeah, that sounds about right. ;)

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    2. Re:Four Horsemen burger of San Antonio, TX by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Article 1.5 prohibits the use of riot control agents in warfare, of which pepper spray is one. It's the catchall. Article 2.9 permits riot control agents for law enforcement.

      In other words, in war they have to shoot you dead or blow you up, none of these more humane methods to bring you under control. Way to go international treaty!! ;)

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  4. Re:Not the Next Hottest by Thyamine · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, the Scoville scale measures the actual amount of capsaicin in a pepper. The test that Scoville himself invented was subjective. But because of the work he did on it, they named the quantitative units after him.

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  5. Is this needed? by joeflies · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The article implies that 1,000,000 scoville's is nasty stuff compared to the habenero. Yet when looking at wikipedia's entry on the scoville scale, it says law enforcement pepper spray is rated at 5,000,000 to 5,300,00 million scovilles. In other words, the pepper spray currently on the market is already stronger than the bhut jolokia. So what's the news then, if they are developing a weapon with significantly less strength than what's currently on the market?

  6. Sorry, but why? by mother_reincarnated · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I must be missing something here:

    1) I'm pretty sure it's a banned weapon militarily speaking.

    2)Who cares which pepper the capsaicin came from!? How would this be any different than any of the current commercial pepper sprays/balls/bombs?

  7. Re:Tastes great by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's not actually caustic. Capsicum just lowers your threshold of heat, so the nerves feel like they are in a hot area. Thus, it "burns" you. Blistering is a reaction to this. If you can use it as a caustic agent it probably has a lot of vinegar added.

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  8. Technically correct, but... by Rene+S.+Hollan · · Score: 5, Informative

    Modern expressions of pungency in terms of Scoville units set pure capsaicin at either 15,000,000 or 16,000,000, and use HPLC to establish concentration of same (and related compounds). A Scoville rating is then set based on the concentration(s) measured.

    So, knowing the reference standard, the measurements are actually quite objective.

    Nobody, as far as I know, uses taste testers anymore.

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    1. Re:Technically correct, but... by reverseengineer · · Score: 4, Informative

      A few things are going on chemically with hot peppers. Capsaicin is an alkaloid, which is just a term for a nitrogen-containing naturally produced base (caffeine would be another example; something like sodium hydroxide would be a non-alkaloid base). Capsaicin is not a particularly strong base, and is not very water soluble, behaving more like a wax. This is why pure water is not regarded as particularly effective in relieving the pain sensation produced by capsaicin. Peppers as a whole are generally very mildly acidic, with notable quanitities of weak acids like ascorbic acid (vitamin C). However, they are generally not acidic enough to resist spoilage, so preserved forms of chiles usually involve vinegar, which might be the acidity you taste in a hot sauce or canned chile.

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  9. Re:Tastes great by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Informative

    The guy who sold it to us told us a few interesting things about it: (1) It instantly blisters skin on contact (2) it's very expensive to buy over the internet because it has to be shipped as a hazardous materiel. (3) Not only is it good for eating, but it works great as a caustic agent for degreasing driveways, engines, etc.

    the guy who sold it was ragingly full of shit.

    I have let it sit on my skin for 20 minutes to prove it's a fake claim... Won $100.00 in the office after that and eating a taco with it on it. (they dont understand that sour cream really kills it's burn)

    It's not acid, it dont burn the skin and is worthless for degreasing driveways.

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  10. Call me juvenile ... by winomonkey · · Score: 5, Funny
    FTFA:

    In fact, Indian farmers say Bhut paste can be used for everything from sauces to tear gas. And there in lies the military's interest.

    The Indian military is interested in the many uses of Bhut paste? I ... I don't know how to respond to this in a mature manner.

  11. Re:Pepper Abuse by Jesus_666 · · Score: 4, Funny

    That fetish might be less popular than you think it is.

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  12. Re:Pakistan and China by blackgod · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, you are right! India's both strength and weakness lies in Democracy. That is the reason behind India's moderate growth compared to China's aggressive.

    In the backdrop of Google vs China, we can't even imagine Google vs India. Here in India, you have freedom to express what you think. Here the limitation is you can't do as you wish freely due to practical issues like massive population, corrupted politicians (not political system) and bureaucrats and last but not least people's expectation that some one will/should come and solve our problem like a super man. China tackles all the above issues with one single weapon called Dictatorship in the name of Communism. So their pace may be better than India **as of now**.

    But it is true that growth of a nation is **not** 100m race, it is marathon - you need consistent performance and more resilience. After all Country is nothing but the people. What the govt. is going to achieve by isolating its people from the main stream of world? In Tamil, there is a saying - "What you are going to achieve by buying painting at the cost of your eyes?"

    I am afraid that I may be biased towards India, since I am an Indian. But I take US as dream role model for our country's political system. The democracy in US is the one which has driven it so far. We are lucky to have such a democracy in India. In US, the people's real patriotism lies in being true to the social setup (basically adhering to the rules and regulation of the society). But it is unfortunate that here in India patriotism is judged on your emotional show case than how sincere you are towards country's growth.

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