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GoDaddy Follows Google's Lead; No More Registrations In China

phantomfive writes "GoDaddy has announced it will no longer register domain names in China, in response to new requirements that each registrant be photographed, and their business ID number be submitted. GoDaddy's representative said, 'The intent of the procedures appeared, to us, to be based on a desire by the Chinese authorities to exercise increased control over the subject matter of domain name registrations by Chinese nationals.'"

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  1. Good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Fuck China and its shit.

    1. Re:Good. by grumpyman · · Score: 5, Funny

      Good. Don't buy anything made in China.

    2. Re:Good. by skine · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Is that possible?

    3. Re:Good. by grumpyman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is exactly my point - I don't think it's possible (my comment never meant to be funny, but I find the modders amusing). Like it or not, as western society, we are part of the 'problem' (or you can call it 'ecosystem').

  2. Wow by Anonymusing · · Score: 5, Funny

    GoDaddy did something I like.

    Though, it probably has less to do with "Yay Freedom!" than "We can't sell that even with big-breasted women."

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    1. Re:Wow by Trepidity · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Probably has most of all to do with GoDaddy not wanting to figure out the logistics of integrating the new photography/ID requirements into their purchase system.

    2. Re:Wow by Buelldozer · · Score: 3, Informative

      Danica Patrick has a bra size of roughly 32B. That's hardly "big breasted" ;-)

    3. Re:Wow by Eighty7 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I wish they'd go ahead and pull out of America too.

    4. Re:Wow by Onymous+Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Working well is not a defense for being evil.

      "The Death Star contractors are delivering on time and under budget! Look at the quality of this work!"

    5. Re:Wow by Reverend528 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Maybe they will. I was watching fox news today and apparently we are now socialists.

  3. Hey, Me Too! by 0racle · · Score: 5, Funny

    I would also like to announce that I will no longer be accepting contract work originating in China.

    Everything is easier when someone else takes the first steps.

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    1. Re:Hey, Me Too! by Jazz-Masta · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It is easy for many companies that deal with web-based work to do this. China is a hotbed of Internet fraud. Although GoDaddy probably makes quite a bit off of domain registrations for .com/.net/etc from China, adding in the photography requirement isn't what will kill their interest. It is the eventual benefit of this requirement that would reduce much of the fraud coming from China (one hopes), and with the reduction of fraud, there are very few legitimate .com/.net/etc registrations from China compared to the US and the rest of the world.

    2. Re:Hey, Me Too! by oldspewey · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I once worked with a client with subcontractors in China, who would at various times send him mockups and technical drawings for various products. On one particular project, time was getting tight and the subcontractor became strangely non-communicative at a crucial juncture. My client's blood pressure started rising as he kept trying (within the confines of a 10-12 hour timezone difference and a fairly significant language barrier on the telephone) to figure things out and get all the information we needed.

      The subcon kept insisting "I sent the files. I sent the files" but he never received them. As a workaround I set up an FTP space where files could be exchanged and we got through our deadlines that way. After the fact, an idea occurred to me and I told my client "hey, why don't you just phone up your ISP and ask them why you're not getting email from China?"

      Sure enough, it turned out his ISP had one day decided to just unilaterally stop accepting email from Chinese IP addresses. They did this as a spam and malware control measure, but didn't see fit to inform their customers of the change since they assumed it wouldn't impact anyone in any real way.

      Fun times.

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    3. Re:Hey, Me Too! by Thinboy00 · · Score: 4, Funny

      You'd think they'd start with Nigeria.

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  4. No it's not. by IANAAC · · Score: 5, Insightful
    No, it's not obligatory.

    It's old and entirely unoriginal.

    1. Re:No it's not. by spazdor · · Score: 4, Funny

      In metasyntactic Mad-Lib substitution joke, Communist rhetorical cliches build unexpected wooden puns out of YEW!

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  5. What is their bottom line in China? by zero_out · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have to wonder just how much GoDaddy.com was making from its presence in China. What was its market share? What was its gross revenue?

    Based on the opinions of many /. comments, I would have suspected that the two would make happy bedfellows. Doesn't GoDaddy.com practice extreme control over their clients, rooting boxes, and taking over lapsed domain names to then extort their customers, or am I mistaking it for another registrar / host?

  6. Not political, just too much work by Animats · · Score: 3, Interesting

    China is imposing requirements that domain registrants must provide a photo and a business ID. That's too much hassle for GoDaddy, home of extreme low-end domain registrations. This has little to do with politics and much to do with GoDaddy's business model.

    1. Re:Not political, just too much work by Charles+Dodgeson · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I agree entirely. GoDaddy wouldn't do something hard because it is right, but (like most businesses) would do something easy because it saves money.

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  7. I wonder by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 4, Funny

    If fu.cn is taken?

  8. Re:pandemic? by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Mod this interesting? How the hell is China going to operate in a global economy where more and more business is done over the Internet? The whole point of the filtering is the realization that China cannot compete without allowing access to the Internet, but trying to mitigate the potential delirious effects (to the government and the party) of a fully open Internet. If all it took was just chopping down the copper and fiber at the borders and shutting off access to foreign satellites, without any harmful effects to the Chinese economy, they would have done this fifteen years ago. They don't because they can't, so they have to use the state muscle to try to keep people from seeing dangerous information.

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  9. Geeze... by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Funny

    What a bunch of boobs.

  10. .CN domain extensions, not chinese registrations! by MrCawfee · · Score: 5, Informative

    This article summary is fairly misleading, they are no longer registering the .CN extension

    Here is some background:

      In December, giving 2 days notice to the international registrars, the .CN registry changed their policy to require paper documentation to register a .CN domain name. In January, because the registry didn't plan this very well, and because they gave absolutely no notice, they decided to turn off registrations all together until they could figure out how to actually implement their new policy. The registry implemented their policy without figuring out actually how to implement their policy..

    After a month of no registrations, they opened it up, changing their policy once again to only allow .CN registrations for companies not individuals, and only companies that had an office in china. From what i understand, they are trying to remove the stigma of .CN being the #1 fraud extension (before .cm came out that is)

    So to be clear, godaddy is no longer doing .CN registrations because .CN is no longer completely automated, which makes it unprofitable with their business model which is primarily based on volume.

  11. Re:pandemic? by hoggoth · · Score: 4, Funny

    > I think 'deleterious' is the word you were looking for.

    Why? "delirious " is a perfectly cromulent word.

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  12. Re:pandemic? by idontgno · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Closed trade enclaves to protect the people from the cultural pollution of the Southern Barbarians is an ancient and demonstratively successful strategy in that part of the world.

    Anyone with a legitimate business, diplomatic, or other official government-sanctioned need for external access will get it... massively filtered and heavily monitored, and for only a ridiculously small proportion of the population. That way, effective monitoring is feasible. Access will be strictly white-list.

    Everyone else gets the Chinese equivalent of AOL, pre-1993. (That's right, not even Usenet.)

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  13. Re:inalienable rights by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I used to be really annoyed that the US has worked with so many kings and dictators, but then I realized the truth: 60 years ago, there was no one else really to do business with. More of the world was in some form of dictatorship than it was in democracy. When you look at it like that, the fact that we do business with Egypt really becomes more of a legacy operation than evilness, especially for the old guys in the state department who have been around a while.

    am awfully tired of our half assed attempts to export our way of life at all levels only when we see fit. we have supported as many dictators as democracies mostly because dictators are easier to please and get to follow our wishes.

    So you see a problem, and that is we aren't consistent in trying to make the world better, and your solution is to stop trying? If we change our policy, why don't we change it instead to be, encourage freedom where we can, deprecate evil wherever it is. We can't change the world alone, but almost everyone should agree that freedom of speech, women's rights, and freedom of self-determination are a good thing.

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  14. Re:pandemic? by oldspewey · · Score: 3, Funny

    Everyone else gets the Chinese equivalent of AOL, pre-1993

    They get floppies in the mail every month?

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  15. Re:pandemic? by nahdude812 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For Apple to abandon a supplier practically costs them nothing. There are a hundred more companies eager to step up to the plate and at worst Apple sees a temporary dimple in their supply.

    For Google to take a stance that they know shuts out a massive demographic is a much more significant ethical stand.

    The two are not even close in terms of sacrifice involved.

  16. Re:inalienable rights by Hatta · · Score: 3, Insightful

    can't we just let countries choose their own path?

    Can't China just let its citizens choose their own path?

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  17. They still have a stranglehold... by improfane · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This really does not hurt China much.

    The western society is a 'servce culture', we exchange value by doing things for one another. The east culture is a manufacture culture. In the UK, our youth look up to playing instruments, video games, being footballers or engineers - doing service related things. In China, education is very important and cut throat. It's more about being a mathmatician, engineer or scientist. In my book about China and Microsoft (Gwanshee), the Chinese can get into university degrees as young as 13!

    They are reducing our production capability - they manufacture a large number of things for us so we can do business cheaper. This is a massive stranglehold they have: we benefit because our businesses can do things for less. It's no longer profitable for us to run factories and production workshops in our own territories. This means we become dependent on them, like sucking from a teat.

    What do they get from it?

    Skills, knowledge, experience to bolster their own country. We get nothing. If we send an Apple engineer to overseer production of an iPod*, who is actually learning how the technology works? Do you think that it's really private from the native factory owners? We're essentially giving them technology and abilities. We have seen them building factories, power stations and transport links that put ours to shame, they are really building themselves an impressive infrastructure. They fund international scholarships to put the skills they learn to good news.

    We're digging ourself into a roadblock. What if China cuts us off from manufacturing? It's not as though ALL THE businesses have absolute control, they could not avoid retribution from the government!

    We would be screwed. The UK practically builds nothing by itself anymore, we just let China do it. If they stop, we're unemployed and opened for expansion. I think they are grinding us down slowly and surely.

    What do you think of China? What can we do about it?

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  18. Re:inalienable rights by Hatta · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Oh, we've done it many times in South America. Pinochet comes to mind immediately.

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  19. perfect the enemy of the good by Onymous+Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Maximize the localness of your purchases.