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Councilman Booted For His Farmville Obsession

Bulgarian Dimitar Kerin won't have to decide if he should tend his crops or pay attention to Plovdiv City Council business anymore. The committee voted him off 20-19, saying that he obviously "needs more time for his virtual farm." From the article: "Kerin was not alone in his obsession among council members. Council chairman Ilko Iliev had previously warned several of them that the new wireless network and laptops provided to all 51 council members were not to be used for playing games on social media sites during budget meetings. Kerin was singled out for continuing to manage his farm and milk his cows despite Iliev's warnings. "

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  1. Too nerdy. by RightSaidFred99 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously, what is it about this Farmville crap that turns otherwise normal people into ridiculous, obsessed nerdy dweebs? I've played WoW quite a bit, I'm really quite a nerd myself but this game looks boring as shit and it seems to drag "normal" people into it like WoW draws in nerds.

    1. Re:Too nerdy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Seriously, what is it about this Farmville crap that turns otherwise normal people into ridiculous, obsessed nerdy dweebs? I've played WoW quite a bit, I'm really quite a nerd myself but this game looks boring as shit and it seems to drag "normal" people into it like WoW draws in nerds.

      My question is: Should a poster with the moniker of 'RightSaidFred99' be allowed to criticize anything at all?

    2. Re:Too nerdy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      >Seriously, what is it about this Farmville crap that turns otherwise normal people into ridiculous, obsessed nerdy dweebs? I've played WoW quite a bit, I'm really quite a nerd myself but this game looks boring as shit and it seems to drag "normal" people into it like WoW draws in nerds.

      *draws deep breath*
      NNNNNEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRDDDDDDDDD

    3. Re:Too nerdy. by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Funny

      My question is: where there really 98 other people signed up with "RightSaidFred" related monikers? Frankly, I'm surprised "RightSaidFred" itself was already taken!

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    4. Re:Too nerdy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      These people are probably not gamers. So they probably never jumped on Harvest Moon back in the day.

      So they get on Facebook to build a social network and there they are introduced to the wonderful world of virtual life simulators like Farmville and they crack out.

      I personally go for Tetris. It is a total time killer and if I have to turn it off I do not have to worry about "saving my progress" or none of that jazz.

    5. Re:Too nerdy. by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's funny because there were plenty of nerds in the CS department at my school, including professors, who liked sports, collected figurines (usually Warhammer shit) and liked guns. Just because you find certain things banal and other things interesting doesn't mean that every "nerd" is going to agree.

    6. Re:Too nerdy. by Culture20 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Never played it, but I'm betting if you don't spend time tending your crops, they die in real-world time. I used to play a diku-mud fifteen years ago where you were charged "rent" for your equipment on a real-world basis. If you stopped playing for a while, you lost your equipment when your gold ran out. So, I used a HDD syncing bug to my advantage to clone equipment (specifically diamonds) to sell at local shops to get enough gold to last a long while. But I still got addicted because of the "gotta help my 'friends'" aspect.

    7. Re:Too nerdy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Nevermind the popularity of Locke.

    8. Re:Too nerdy. by Enderandrew · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Here I'm checking Slashdot at work.

      I won't play hypocrite and blast others for what they do with their time. Everyone has their things they enjoy.

      The problem with something like Farmville is that a standard web page still appears somewhat like work. I can also content that keeping up on technology news goes along with my job. Farmville is CLEARLY not work.

      Farmville and games like it also need users to log back in and play the game at specific time intervals. My mother claimed she was massively bogged down with work, but the biggest time sink in her day was managing Farmville. The most prominent item on her desk was her schedule for what times she had to check on various crops.

      When you design games to conflict with people's schedule, and necessitate playing at specific times, you leave the domain of what I consider a casual game, and enter into the realm of chore and obsession.

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    9. Re:Too nerdy. by mini+me · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I believe it is the time limited nature of game play. Once you have tended to your farm, there is nothing left for you to do. This builds up excitement that you will get to play again soon. That excitement keeps people coming back. If you could play FarmVille for hours on end without stopping, the novelty would quickly wear off.

    10. Re:Too nerdy. by Shakrai · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's the difference between normal people and nerds. Normal people get obsessed over things too. But it's banal, uninteresting shit they get obsessed over. Sports, soap operas, miniature figurines, gun collections, etc. Nerds get obsessed over things that are actually interesting because they requires some thought. Normal people can't relate to it, so they label it and shun it as weird, geeky, nerdy, etc.

      Is there any way you could have said that and come off as more of a snob? Or are gun collections or sports somehow less worthy of being obsessed over than a virtual farm?

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    11. Re:Too nerdy. by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Are you too sexy for his criticism?

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    12. Re:Too nerdy. by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 2, Funny

      Y0u'r3 ju5+ j3a10u5 0f h+3 3133t +urn1p f4rm3r5 gu1ld! W00+!

    13. Re:Too nerdy. by Hatta · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think you misread me. Gun collections and sports are equally worthy of being obsessed over as a virtual farm, none of are particularly nerdy though. Amateur astronomy, ham radio, programming, etc. are worthy of being obsessed over too. But the technical complexity of the subjects drive away people who aren't nerds.

      Everyone gets obsessed over the things that interest them. Nerds just obsess over more complex things. I hope that's a less inflammatory way of phrasing it.

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    14. Re:Too nerdy. by Eric52902 · · Score: 2, Funny

      More to the point, how many 11 year olds know who Right Said Fred is?

    15. Re:Too nerdy. by bennomatic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And they level the playing field.

      Wow. It's like the Internet. I wonder if there was a period where basically anyone who could scrape together enough money to buy a gun could start their own business. Were the Wells Fargo money courriers the Web 2.0 bubble of their time?

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    16. Re:Too nerdy. by OnlyJedi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sports, soap operas, miniature figurines, gun collections.

      One of these things is not like the others,
      One of these things just doesn't belong,
      Can you tell which thing is not like the others
      By the time I finish my song?

      One of these things is loved by otaku
      One of them used for Warhammer games
      Collect 'em, paint 'em, spend thousands of dollars
      It'll clinch your geekdom-hood fame.

      Did you guess which thing was not like the others?
      Did you guess which thing just doesn't belong?
      If you guessed this one is not like the others,
      Then you're absolutely...right!

      (goes back to bask in his Warhammer, D&D, and anime figure collection)

    17. Re:Too nerdy. by wjousts · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I found this piece rather informative:

      5 creepy ways video games are trying to get you addicted

    18. Re:Too nerdy. by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Except his generalization has been more the exception for all the nerds I've ever met.

      Nerds tend to go for things with more depth/complexity then the average bear and it's true

      I've never seen such a thing on average being true. Almost all the nerds I've come across are into just as much banal shit as the next person. Sure there might be a few areas that they like that tend to be more complex, but it's outweighed by the other shit.

  2. Using a computer on company time? by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd fire anyone who uses a company computer on company time for personal reasons.

    Exempting this comment posting, of course.

    1. Re:Using a computer on company time? by teh+g04t · · Score: 2, Funny

      There are few joys in life when you are an IT Manager. It beats my normal routine of crying myself to sleep.

  3. Re:Plovdiv City? by clone53421 · · Score: 2, Informative
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  4. Idiot! by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Funny

    If he'd been playing SimCity instead, he could have claimed it was work related!

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    1. Re:Idiot! by idontgno · · Score: 2, Funny

      Then they'd fire him for mismanaging his virtual city into bankruptcy and chain nuclear reactor accidents.

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  5. Good litmus test by RLiegh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you can't put down the zynga long enough to take care of your real-world job, maybe you don't need one. Normally I don't relish social darwinism, but in this case it's hard to not see the appropriateness of it.

  6. It doesn't look like the guys lost his job by the_humeister · · Score: 3, Informative

    The article notes that he was voted off of his committee. It doesn't say whether his actual seat is gone.

  7. Oblig. by corruptblitz · · Score: 2, Funny

    Looks like the old saying is true. You reap what you sow.

  8. two news in one. by andrea.sartori · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The real news here is, they voted him out 20-19. What were they thinking? I mean, the other 19.

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    1. Re:two news in one. by ZekoMal · · Score: 2, Interesting

      People in government typically don't care about their job. Unless you're IT, people in front of a computer have the priority of porn followed by youtube followed by facebook followed by twitter with actual work at the very, very bottom. Combine these two and you get half of your local government preferring to dick around than actually do what they're paid to do.

    2. Re:two news in one. by matrim99 · · Score: 4, Funny

      The other 19 were thinking: "With Dimitar gone, who will fertilize my crops"?

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  9. For a serious look at the sociological by ClosedSource · · Score: 4, Funny

    implications of Farmville see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odBDAcOEKuI

  10. I Want Him For My Councilman by Petersko · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've considered throwing a brick through the front glass on city hall to indicate how I feel about my local government's obscene spending policies. Time spent playing online games is time during which they aren't spending ridiculous amounts of money on stupid, wasteful things.

    I want them to do at least 80% less than they do, so if they waste a bunch of time on online games, that's okay with me.

    1. Re:I Want Him For My Councilman by MiniMike · · Score: 2, Funny

      I've considered throwing a brick through the front glass on city hall ... < snip >... spending ridiculous amounts of money on stupid, wasteful things.

      Like new windows? Maybe you'd be better off just leaving a playstation on their doorstep.

  11. 51 council members??? by kehren77 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Holy crap! I've been in meetings with 20 people that take forever and are drawn out simply because too many people need to hear their own voice. I don't blame this guy for zoning out. 51 isn't a council, that's a legislature.

  12. False sense of accomplishment. by maillemaker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I believe these sort of games provide a sense of accomplishment that many people find addictive, in spite of the fact that in reality they have accomplished nothing. It FEELS like you have accomplished something, and you feel compelled to continue on to accomplish even more.

    You could say this is a hallmark of a great game. It compels the player to play more.

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  13. You people forgot to cite another of his defenses by unity100 · · Score: 3, Funny

    he said "Im just level 40. there are councillors who are level 45. why is noone talking about them"

  14. Wait. What?? by BigBlueOx · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There's an AOL News?? AOL is still around???

  15. Can you please not by corbettw · · Score: 2, Funny

    put half of your opening sentence in your subject line. God, I hate people who do that.

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  16. You m by ean+li · · Score: 5, Funny

    ke this?

  17. You've got it backwards by Jon.Laslow · · Score: 2, Funny

    The 20 who voted to get rid of him are the ones who play it. "Hey, let's vote him off! Then he'll have more time to fertilize our crops!"