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DIY 80GB iPod Touch

An anonymous reader writes "Having recently acquired an iPod Touch, DeviceGuru blogger Rick Lehrbaum soon found himself with an 80GB iPod paperweight knocking around and collecting dust. Then it hit him: why not use a Pogoplug as an iPod server, effectively filling his nifty new iPod Touch with 80GB of music whenever he has WiFi access? The how-to article at DeviceGuru.com explains how a Pogoplug and iPod Touch combined with free web services at pogoplug.com combine to form the 'PogoPod System.' It also introduces the Pogoplug's new UPnP support, and briefly reviews a couple of UPnP media-rendering iPhone and iPod Touch apps."

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  1. Plug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can some one please shitcan this plugoplug article?

    1. Re:Plug by ImYourVirus · · Score: 2, Informative

      You forgot to mention that if you want to access the drive *outside* of your lan, its either a yearly or monthly rate of like 20 or 30 dollars a month. And you have to use their service to access the configuration of the device.

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    2. Re:Plug by ottothecow · · Score: 3, Insightful
      So...you buy a $130 device and pay a few hundred a year (to use outside your home)...to connect your old few hundred dollar device to your new few hundred dollar device?

      And all it gets you is 16 more GB than the biggest version of the new few hundred dollar device? Only when it has internet access? And this genius gets on the front page?

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  2. So let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This article discusses... connecting an iPod to a thing that supports connecting iPods to it?
    In other words... it's *not* about making an 80gb iPod touch?

    In other news: Man listens to FM radio channel using FM Radio!

    1. Re:So let me get this straight... by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No shit. I was all ready for some hacking goodness, not some hacky shit.

      I usually berate people who say it, but this is some new kind of low for this place.

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    2. Re:So let me get this straight... by obarthelemy · · Score: 4, Informative

      The basic one is still made:
      http://www.newit.co.uk/shop/products.php?cat=5 Cheap, USB+Ethernet

      Updated version are coming RealSoonNow, including one with HDMI
      http://www.newit.co.uk/shop/products.php?cat=11 there's a version with eSATA
      http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-33-guruplug-display.aspx

      And Marvell announced a v.3 at CES last Jan, no real product announced yet.

      All of those support Debian, Ubuntu is on the way out since the new Ubuntu requires some instruction set extension that are not available on the old plugs.

      There's a very active community at http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php

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    3. Re:So let me get this straight... by hairyfeet · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or you could just buy a Sheevaplug and save yourself the monthly fee for using the crap being pedaled in this "hack". Or if you really wanted to be a cheapskate just pick up a SFF PC for a little of nothing, since all it is gonna do is serve files a 733MHz will do just fine, slap Linux and a decent sized HDD in and you're good to go.

      Seriously, does nobody read these things before they get posted anymore? I was hopped up expecting some cool hack, not some cheap ass ad for an overpriced POS. Note-plugging something into a USB port is NOT a hack! Hell if we are gonna start calling crap like this "DIY" then my 67 year old dad with his 14 USB ports must be like the king of the DIY hackers! Now if I can just teach him how to actually do two things on a PC at once he'll rule the world! Muh ha ha ha ha!

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  3. How convenient. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The very day that Apple announces that only their newest phones will support multitasking why here we have on /. an article pimping how having an otherwise useless iDevice is a good thing. I guess we know what folks are supposed to do with their old iPhones now.

    Shame.

    This place died long ago. I miss it.

    I won't mourn it though.

  4. Nice commercial review by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just what i wanted when i visited /.

  5. Title correction: by wolrahnaes · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "DIY installing an app on an iPod Touch"

    The guy's just plugging an external hard drive in to a minimalist Linux system (the early review versions are clearly SheevaPlug units with a sticker attached and some custom software) and accessing it from an iPod Touch. Whoop-dee-fucking-doo.

    The post title implies something actually interesting like a way to hack more than the X GB of storage space Apple currently offers on to the iPod Touch platform, not "here's how to access a UPnP share from a WiFi connected handheld.

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  6. wow that wasn't misleading at all by grapeape · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Where's the hack? Reads more like a commercial to me.

  7. Why does it exist? by nikomo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Worthless. Please tell me there was some sort of an error and that's why this is here.

  8. Pogoplug is not opensource! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hi, my name is Feverdream and I like to hack small devices to make them easier to use by the blind - like myself - since they are often cheaper than full fledged computer systems that have parts we non-sighted don't usually need or use. I recently forced the pogoplug guys to release some GPL code they tried to hide from the community; You can now see part of the the xce module source on the website, but we need your help getting the rest!

    They still lock the system down, and the Adobe Apollo based server on the device that they use for their service does things under the hood that would make RMS blush. They did not even want to release the xce module source despite the fact that it is GPL, and I had to fight with them to release the part they did.. problem is its not the source that they released on the device, and they wont give that out. You can tell by comparing the timestamps in the tarball they released that the files were edited.

    Not to mention, thy lock you out of updating the kernel... and that makes it very hard to add accessibility for the blind or otherwise disabled since this is not activated by default.

    We need your help. Boycott them,. get the message out they they violate not only the terms of the GPL by refusing to release unmodified or edited source of the code they have already released to the public, but the spirit of it. Get the rest of the data on the http://www.plugapps.com/ forums!

    1. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 3, Informative

      Hey there.

      Two things:

      1st) Can you please not post this as AC? I believe it's important enough as to use a username
      2nd) Have you contacted the FSF / gpl-violations.org? You really should.

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    2. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by lucidfeverdream · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Ok, got an account now. Happy? I did tell gpl-v about this, and that is what got them to release the partial source... but its not everything.

    3. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by Zerth · · Score: 3, Informative

      Pogoplug is not opensource!

      So give Pogo the finger and get a Sheevaplug. Exact same hardware, different plastic shell.

      Or even better: get a Guruplug, the latest revision that comes with wireless, Gigabit ethernet, and eSATA.

    4. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by lucidfeverdream · · Score: 3, Informative

      I am not sure if I'm allowed to double post this, and I do not want to break the rules here now that I'm logged in now, but anyway yes I'm real, this is legit, and you can find more data here: http://plugapps.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=43 where I have a thread going about improving compatibility that has kind of morphed into other topics around this, including the threats we have gotten for simply requesting gpl source code.

    5. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 3, Informative

      The bastards. Ok, two things:

      1st: Don't buy that kind of devices. Get some generic ARM-based box off china. It's what this devices use anyway. You can find some nice 600mhz ARM + 128MB of RAM all-in-one boards that come with an SDK and all of the source plus many example apps for 30 dollars (FOB Shenzhen, China). There are even full embedded systems (with very similar specs) complete with case, power supply, remote, wifi card, etc. Ready to plug and get hacking for under 60 dollars (Again, price is FOB Shenzhen). Lots of fun at a great price. You can find retailers for all of this devices in most places around the world.

      Another great hacking tool are the atom-based boards. There are all in one mini-atx mobos with dual core Atom processors (1.6ghz) for 80 dollars. Try the Intel or Foxconn models, they are very powerful and inexpensive.

      If you are still mad about the GPL violators, try mailing Richard at rms@gnu.org, he reads and answers every mail, and he'll surely be more than glad to help you out and speak on your behalf, or direct you to the right person.

      BTW: The account thing wasn't just to be a smartass. Many people just disregards most ACs posts, and it's impossible to keep in touch or get replies from ACs anyway. Also, this place has some very very elaborate trolls, you never, ever know ;)

      Happy Hacking!

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    6. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by mirix · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can find some nice 600mhz ARM + 128MB of RAM all-in-one boards that come with an SDK and all of the source plus many example apps for 30 dollars (FOB Shenzhen, China). There are even full embedded systems (with very similar specs) complete with case, power supply, remote, wifi card, etc. Ready to plug and get hacking for under 60 dollars (Again, price is FOB Shenzhen). Lots of fun at a great price. You can find retailers for all of this devices in most places around the world.

      Hi, can you post some links to someone who retails these devices? sounds interesting.

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    7. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by ErikZ · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, I'll just hop on www.china.com and order that stuff!

      Could you at least give us a starting point? Something that covers a little less area than "Somewhere in China"?

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    8. Re:Pogoplug is not opensource! by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 2, Informative

      Again, I have no idea. I import them directly from China, and I'm not in the US, so I don't know what retailers you can find there.

      But let me tell you, there are dozens of places in Shenzhen that produce this kind of boards. All of those prices are FOB China. Google for it, I'm sure there are importers and retailers of this stuff in the US. Most DVR systems are based on this board, specially the cheapest ones. Some AVTech systems that retail for 200 dollars are based on exactly the same boards I buy for 30. Look around, you'll find them

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  9. iPod Touch + MPD + WiFi by SlashdotOgre · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, the "article" is a bit of disappointment, however I've been in the same situation and here is how I approach the problem (way more music then will fit on my 8GB touch or smartphone): I have a linux server (Dell Studio Hybrid running Gentoo) that I always leave on which has a copy of my music repository. On it I run Music Player Daemon (MPD) with Icecast as one of the outputs. I connect to MPD via a simple web client (there are several: http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Clients) from my touch, build my playlist, then point Safari to my Icecast server's IP/port which opens the media player and I can listen to MPD anywhere I have WiFi. I'm not sure what the minimum bandwidth required is, but even my smartphones (previously Samsung Saga on WM 6.1, now Droid Eris running 2.1) work with this system. For the record I used TCPMP on WM 6.1 (Windows Media Player mobile worked too, but that app is horrible) and now use I use A Online Radio for the Droid (oddly enough, the built in media player on Android doesn't do streams and it's touch to find an Android streaming client that let's you specify any address/port you want).

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  10. Do it without the $130 device by SilverJets · · Score: 3, Interesting

    www.orb.com

  11. Slow WiFi by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I imagine this isn't as useful when your workplace's new 802.11n WiFi throttles access to the Internet to a paltry 20 KB/s (ssh SOCKS proxy-tunnel to LAN brings it up only to 90 KB/s after first day). What I need is a stealth waterproof solar-powered WiFi repeater to bring the fast food restaurant's WiFi from across the street into the building.

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  12. From the well-thats-not-very-exciting dept. by NoMaster · · Score: 2, Funny
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