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Hollywood's Growing Obsession With Philip K. Dick

bowman9991 writes "Even after Blade Runner, A Scanner Darkly, Total Recall, Minority Report, Paycheck, Impostor, and Next, it appears Hollywood's lust for movies based on Philip K. Dick material continues. The Adjustment Bureau, starring Matt Damon, Emily Blunt, and Terence Stamp, is the latest, and features some classic Dick themes, including the fragile nature of reality and a fight against a world controlled and manipulated by powerful unseen entities. When Congressman David Norris meets the love of his life after a political defeat, he must peel back the layers of reality to discover why a mysterious group is so desperate to make sure they never meet again. He is up against the agents of fate itself — the men of The Adjustment Bureau. The Adjustment Bureau adaptation follows news that Terry Gilliam will adapt Dick's novel The World Jones Made, that Flow My Tears, The Policeman Said and Ubik are being adapted, and that a remake of Total Recall is being developed by the ironically named Original Films Studio."

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  1. A Few More and Some Musings by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Interesting
    According to the author's Trust's site, you're missing a few:

    "Time Out of Joint" Purchased by Warner Bros.

    "Valis", "Radio Free Albemuth", and "Flow My Tears the Policeman Said" Purchased by independent producer John Alan Simon

    properties under option: "Adjustment Team" - Short Story, "Ubik" - Novel, "King of the Elves - Short Story

    After reading more than a few of PKD's books and short stories really I'm surprised that Hollywood isn't more obsessed with PKD than they are now. In my opinion, the Science Fiction genre is tired and overdone in very predictable ways. PKD's works are often further out there. I realize that A Scanner Darkly was probably not the most well received movie but I would predict that Dick's use of a sort of confusion/resolution while tackling the standard moral/ethical dilemmas that are the hallmark of SciFi would be an easy option to keep movies "fresh." Of course, I've been wondering the same thing about Stanislaw Lem for quite some time. Aside from Solaris he seems to be relegated to fringe movies like Ari Folman's adaptation of Lem's The Futurological Congress .

    Recently I finished Chuck Palahniuk's Rant and went searching online for more details as I was generally confused about who was a Historian and who was not at the end of the novel. What I found was that he's making it into a trilogy and that the rights to his books as movies are generally bought right after he finishes a book. He says:

    We’ve had a bunch of negotiations for Rant. It’s going to be the first of three books on the same sort of theme and the movie production people want to see at least outlines on the next two books in the series because nobody wants to buy the rights of the first of three and not be able to control the rights to the second and third books. So I really have to sell Rant as a three-book package. So once I’m able to present those people with a product outline for the next two books, then we’ll sell.

    So I'm guessing that Fight Club was such a huge money maker and gained mainstream respect that some of his more gritty novels are now premium movie material? Or perhaps he's not too picky on the size of the sum when his story is about to made into a movie?

    There's not a lot of data out there on how much these rights sell for I guess so you can't say whether or not PKD's Trust is just underrating them as pulp scifi and selling them low cost. Combine that possibility with the fact that he's had some huge movies come from his books and I think Hollywood is finally beginning to understand. With Dick you finally have the technology to represent his dreams on screen along with a dearth of stories along with a public tired of your predictable plots along with the possibility that PKD's trust wants PKD to be appreciated on the silver screen. Lord knows that if I was a member of PKD's family I would love to see the young people of today enjoy his works as much as the young people of yesterday did.

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    1. Re:A Few More and Some Musings by Plunky · · Score: 2, Insightful

      According to the author's Trust's site, you're missing a few:

      So basically, Dick is dead and can't object, and the Trust is monetising his heritage while they still can because the clock is ticking..

    2. Re:A Few More and Some Musings by Nerdfest · · Score: 5, Funny

      Basically, if you only know the stuff that's been made into movies, then you don't know Dick.

    3. Re:A Few More and Some Musings by eln · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think you're giving Hollywood way too much credit for caring about the artistic merits of their work. The simple fact is someone made money off a movie based on one of Dick's books, so now everyone that wants a movie made knows if they can say it's based on his work they're much more likely to get funded. The people who bankroll movies love to minimize risk, and at this point Philip K. Dick is a proven winner. What's likely to happen is a string of mediocre to awful films based on his work until the whole thing peters out and filmmakers find some other property they can make several movies from. It's not a coincidence that multiple movies based on a certain type or genre or author tend to come out within a couple of years of each other...it's just filmmakers knowing what's hot at the moment and getting on the gravy train while they can.

    4. Re:A Few More and Some Musings by lyinhart · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So basically, Dick is dead and can't object, and the Trust is monetising his heritage while they still can because the clock is ticking..

      Considering that old franchises like The Lord of the Rings and even Sherlock Holmes are still making money for their rights holders thanks to copyright extensions, that would be a slow ticking clock.

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    5. Re:A Few More and Some Musings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      So basically, Dick is dead and can't object, and the Trust is monetising his heritage while they still can because the clock is ticking..

      But that clock will never run out. You can bet mickey mouse will ensure leeches like the PKD Trust get to make money off the author's back forever. They'll just complain here and there about minor things, and that'll be what they claim is their creativite input. Dick died in 1982, that's almost a third of a century ago, most of his works are from the 60s and 70s. He obviously isn't going to be creating more works, why the need to keep his works locked up with copyright? Copyright is clearly a tool for corporations.

    6. Re:A Few More and Some Musings by tomhudson · · Score: 3, Funny

      So basically, Dick is dead and can't object, and the Trust is monetising his heritage while they still can because the clock is ticking..

      PKD may be dead but the meme lives on

    7. Re:A Few More and Some Musings by j-stroy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Are you insinuating that I'm a "Dick" head?

    8. Re:A Few More and Some Musings by mcvos · · Score: 4, Funny

      Considering that old franchises like The Lord of the Rings and even Sherlock Holmes are still making money for their rights holders thanks to copyright extensions,

      Sherlock Holmes? Wasn't he pre-Disney?

    9. Re:A Few More and Some Musings by mdm-adph · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, we here at /. were into Dick before he sold out, and only like, 30 people or something had read his books.

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    10. Re:A Few More and Some Musings by Plunky · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Considering that old franchises like The Lord of the Rings and even Sherlock Holmes are still making money for their rights holders thanks to copyright extensions, that would be a slow ticking clock.

      J.R.R.Tolkien died in 1973 so thats just over halfway into the post-death years of life+70, but Arthur Conan Doyle died in 1930 and his works are available at Project Gutenberg now. Philip K Dick died 28 years ago (1982) and he was never as popular as either of them, and is unlikely to get more popular as time goes by. Even 'Blade Runner' is rarely known as anything but a Ridley Scott or Harrison Ford film and that is probably the most well known derivation.

    11. Re:A Few More and Some Musings by Volante3192 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, *most* of the Sherlock stories are public domain. But thanks to bizzare copyrighting, the characters are still under protection. Web, weave, tangled.

    12. Re:A Few More and Some Musings by ircmaxell · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yup... The same thing happened with Michael Crichton in the 90's... Jurrasic Park, Lost World (Although that was REALLY different from the book), Sphere, Congo, Rising Sun and Disclosure... It sort of extended into the 2000's with 2003's Timeline.

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    13. Re:A Few More and Some Musings by Per+Abrahamsen · · Score: 2, Informative

      His adventures are available from Project Gutenberg, so I would assume they are safely in the Public Domain by now.

    14. Re:A Few More and Some Musings by Yvanhoe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sir Arthur Conan Doyle died in 1930. Copyright extends crazily 70 years after the death of the author. That means that Sherlock Holmes entered public domain in 2000. Walt Disney died in 1966. Though some of his work were made before the last Sherlock Holmes stories, none of these will become public domain before 2036. Yeah. 2036. At this date, the cartoon that inspired Turing's suicide in 1954 (Snow White) will finally be considered part of history.

      Realize that there may be a human settlement on the moon before the cartoons broadcasted before WWII will be public domain.

      Realize that we only put a ridiculous proportion of these on digital form and that 99% of them are decaying in analog form. Consider how much cultural heritage is lost for the profit of so few people.

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    15. Re:A Few More and Some Musings by proxima · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sherlock Holmes? Wasn't he pre-Disney?

      Much of Sherlock Holmes is in the public domain. Not all of the stories are, though (the exception being the latest work from the 1920s). The relevant rule appears to be creation +95 years, which in this case protects longer than death of the author +70 years.

      Complicating matters is trademark law. While you can certainly distribute the text of old Sherlock Holmes stories (and Project Gutenberg does), what protections do the trademarks provide with regard to adaptations and the creations of derivative works with the same characters?

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    16. Re:A Few More and Some Musings by Intron · · Score: 4, Funny

      So you're saying he died in 1982, then he sold out on all those movies that were done later? Come to think of it, that sounds like a Philip K. Dick idea.

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    17. Re:A Few More and Some Musings by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah. 2036. At this date, the cartoon that inspired Turing's suicide in 1954 (Snow White) will finally be considered part of history.

      You think so? You *really* think so? 'Cause I don't. Disney will get yet another extension. The Mouse will never be public domain.

    18. Re:A Few More and Some Musings by chromas · · Score: 2, Funny

      So what you're saying is that Disney made Turing complete?

    19. Re:A Few More and Some Musings by merigold77 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Shakespeare got a lot of mileage out of variations on 'a bunch of stuff happens... then... everybody dies' - so I'm not sure what your objection is.

      I've read most of Brunner's work. Someone survives in nearly all of them though, so probably not the same ones radtea read :)

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  2. Wrong. by Em+Emalb · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hollywood has made money off of his material, so they're eager to go back to the well. The good news, thus far at least, is that the material they're using is actually well-written.

    Nothing out of the ordinary here, IMO.

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    1. Re:Wrong. by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 2, Informative

      The source material can be well-written; but then you have directors like Uwe Boll deciding to re-scaffold the story on a different premise, similar to another set of movies that made money 10 years ago, because telling the same story over and over was better. Think Doom (invasion of creatures from Hell) being turned into Resident Evil (retro-virus making creatures from Hell).

    2. Re:Wrong. by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 4, Informative

      Doom's original story was that a research lab on a Martian moon had been experimenting with teleportation technology garnered from tablets from an ancient race, explaining the mathematical basis for teleportation, as well as the dangers, and a brief of the full events of a war. That technology apparently intermediates through Hell. A rogue scientist takes an artifact (used to defeat the creatures of Hell before) into a gate that goes INTO Hell, and then the armies of Hell invade the base.

      In the original progression, the armies of Hell wanted a distress signal sent to Earth to get ships for transit to Earth. The lone marine left alive after the initial invasion encountered all kinds of shit; as well as getting orders from a corrupted CO and having to recover the weapon used to such effect in the destruction of Hell's armies. There was also a fully aware counselor attempting to shut down communications or warn Earth about the invasion plans. A lot of weird shit went on, since it dealt with the supernatural aspects of ... well, Judeo-Christian Hell.

      The director for the movie decided that was all a bunch of bullshit, and instead they'd just find skeletons with a super-gene from genetic alteration. They'd mix these into a retro-virus and inject the virus into random people to see what happens, thinking it'd make super-humans immune to all disease and with a rapid healing factor. Instead, it makes evil mutant zombies that go around biting other people on the neck to create more evil mutant zombies.

      So, one of these was deeply thought out, with its own unique take on complex physics and advanced technology, and with dark overtones rising from an ethically corrupt research firm and from supernatural interests. The other... was boiler plate zombie-plague horror, a la Resident Evil. Which do you prefer?

    3. Re:Wrong. by MrHanky · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I know Doom very well, thank you, and you're right about everything, except that "one of these was deeply thought out".

      And please note that I never said I prefer the story from the film.

  3. The Man in the High Castle by mbone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's the one I really want to see ! It could become a classic movie, if done correctly.

    1. Re:The Man in the High Castle by HeckRuler · · Score: 2, Insightful

      if done correctly.

      Ah, the biggest problem with book to movie conversions. You can be true to form and simultaneously prosecute all the jews while making them out to be greedy coniving businessmen AND world-wide conspirators. Or you can ignore the multiple plot threads that never intertwine and simply go with one story. Or you can realize that all the characters are simply an excuse to portray a backdrop where Germany won WWII.

      And then there's the difficult question of how to end the movie. Self-insertion is tripe and you can't have the climax of the movie hinge on a fortune telling explaining that the world is a. And if you're going to change the ending of the movie, then you're going to have to change a few things leading up to it, and at that point you might as well get a writer to make you something that can be put on the screen.

      And shit like this is how we got "Total Recall", which shares about 4 words from the book: "mars" and "inserting false memories".

  4. Some of P. K. Dick's stuff is great, but how about by blind+biker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How about some hard sci-fi on the big screen, for a effing change? Honestly, aliens that copulate with black hookers and live in a ghetto, or Dance with the Volves on another Planet just didn't do it, for me. Neither did Total Recall, for that matter. Take some of Stephen Baxter's opus - hopefully not even Hollywood can screw up that!

    For me, the epitome of sci-fi filmography was The Andromeda Strain (the original one, of course). Plenty of creativity, yet pretty hard sci-fi (coupled with believable acting/good directing) and no flying thumbs from the bottom of a reactor.

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  5. Re:awesome by daveime · · Score: 2, Funny

    But at least it'll have some nifty animation in the middle involving aliens and some effeminate guy saying "you lucky bastard", and maybe a cameo role as a deaf/mute/hunchback type person.

  6. Short Stories by Port1080 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Dick's stories are perfect for film adaptation because they tend to be short - either short stories or novellas. His longest novels are still very short compared to most of what gets published today in the sci-fi genre. Short stories are easier to adapt to film - you generally have to cut a lot out of a novel to make it fit into a two hour movie, but short stories translate to a script more easily. Dick's stories also tend to have the kind of plot twists and the potential for action sequences that Hollywood favors, and he's well known and has a fairly big cult following. There are tons and tons of good sci-fi short stories out there, but very few of their authors are as well known as PKD. Combine all that together and they're a natural choice for adaptation.

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  7. Must Be Monday by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... along with a dearth of stories

    That should read "along with a wealth of stories."

  8. Looking forward to The World Jones Made by Prien715 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Terry Gilliam is one of the most fantastic individuals in the history of film.

    If you're a geek, you know him as a founding member of Monty Python (Patsy in The Holy Grail or Cardinal "No one expects the Spanish Inquisition" Fang). If you're into film, he's done some fantastic dystopian sci-fi films (Brazil, 12 Monkeys). Talk about breadth of talent.

    If anyone has what it takes to do Dick well, it's Gilliam (another random piece of trivia: Gilliam was originally chosen by the author to adapt/direct the Harry Potter books. The studios didn't like Rowling's idea and it never happened.)

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    1. Re:Looking forward to The World Jones Made by swordgeek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "What's next, KDawson submitting good stories?"

      OK, NOW you're just being silly!

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    2. Re:Looking forward to The World Jones Made by The+End+Of+Days · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What was wrong with Fear and Loathing?

  9. Re:I don't Understand by TheLink · · Score: 4, Informative

    Short stories are OK for movies actually. 2+ hours is actually a short time to squeeze an entire book in.

    With many movies you could have a better ending or explanation for things, but it's just not going to fit in 2-3 hours.

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  10. Re:Some of P. K. Dick's stuff is great, but how ab by thijsh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, the Andromeda Strain was awesome! It was also the debut of the great (and sadly late) Michael Crichton on the silver screen, and he has written many entertaining books and movie scripts after that.
    I loved the sets they used in the original, the same hallway painted in different colors to indicate another level inside the contained structure... There was definitely some good acting, and the suspense was heightened by the awesome soundtrack... And they left the origin of the strain kinda in the middle (although the new movie had a mildly interesting sci-fi-ish plot with a wormhole from the future... it felt a little too much Star Trek).

  11. Re:awesome by mcgrew · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Woo, Terry Gilliam's in charge? Then we can look forward to a movie 10 years late,

    I waited thirty years to see Lord of the Rings. Patience is a virtue.

    substantially overbudget,

    Why should I care?

    yet still looks half-done.

    The Gilliam movies I've seen are Time Bandidts, Twelve Monkeys, and Brazil*. I fail to see how any of those movies "look half done."

    * not counting the Monty Python movies, but they didn't "look half done" either, except perhaps Holy Grail, shich was supposed to look like it did.

  12. Screamers by m0nstr42 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Also missed Screamers, based loosely on the short story "Second Variety".

  13. Why Hollywood is obsessed with .... by Simonetta · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hollywood is obsessed with secret, powerful, out-of-control, quasi-government agencies because Hollywood is a secret, powerful, out-of-control, quasi-government organization. They are obsessed with destroying the finances and lives of thousands of random people in order to obtain and retain control of the cultural and emotional mental frameworks of most people in the developed world.

      This fascination with the themes of Phillip K. Dick is only a reflection of their own neurotic narcissism.

     

  14. Newsline - Hollywood Loves Dick by commodore64_love · · Score: 4, Funny

    (sorry I just couldn't miss this opportunity)

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  15. Total Recall: I actually enjoyed the original by Big+Smirk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not because the movie was spectacular. But because of what many (most/all) missed.

    When the technicians are putting Quaid under for the vacation implant with the 'secret agent' option - one of the techs chuckles "Mars with a blue sky"

    I guess I'll have to read Phillip K Dick's book to see if that was the intention.

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  16. Yes, but... by Crash+McBang · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... will they be done in 3D?

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  17. Re:I don't Understand by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Many epic stories need to be a series, either TV or movie. T10K was like ... 6 or 7 movies 3 hours long each? That's how you implement an epic story. Or look at BSG, or more loosely, Enterprise. The problem with TV series is they try to resolve microconflicts in one or two episodes; Enterprise was always a favorite of mine because while there was a small storyline in each episode, there were also 5 other things going on at the same time, on-screen.

  18. Re:Some of P. K. Dick's stuff is great, but how ab by Xelios · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem with hard sci-fi is that it appeals to a niche audience only. This used to be ok, but nowadays studios want films to appeal to as broad an audience as possible. Which, incidentally, is also why so many films that could have been amazing end up being pretty terrible. It doesn't help that sci-fi is generally expensive to produce, why spend all that money when the much cheaper standard-relationship-comedy-sequel ends up earning more?

    Not to say I wouldn't love to see more sci-fi or cyberpunk films. I'm not sure how you'd compress the Xeelee Sequence into a 2 hour movie (even if it's just a part of it), but I'd kill to see Takeshi Kovacs on the big screen.

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  19. meh ... call me if they do The Three Stigmata by _critic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The best . . . and hardest to do well . . . in my humble opinion.

    Valis would be interesting too.

  20. Total Recall... or We Can Remember It For You by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 5, Informative

    "a remake of Total Recall is being developed by the ironically named Original Films Studio."

    Wow, mixed feelings at the totally missed opportunity there.

    First, Philip K. Dick never wrote a piece called "Total Recall." A few of the major themes from his short story "We Can Remember It For You Wholesale" were grabbed and incorporated into a completely different plot to make the movie "Total Recall," but for the most part, "Total Recall" isn't Phil Dick, and "We Can Remember It For You Wholesale" was not made into a movie.

    So it seems like there is an opportunity here, to make a movie from the story Dick actually wrote.

    Instead, though, for no detectable reason they seen to want to remake "Total Recall." I can't see the slightest reason to do this. It was already a fine film-- for what it was, which is an action-effects extravaganza that incorporated some themes from Dick's work into a Hollywood-plotted film-- and I doubt that that film can be remade better.

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    1. Re:Total Recall... or We Can Remember It For You by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Funny

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    2. Re:Total Recall... or We Can Remember It For You by Speare · · Score: 2, Insightful

      To be fair, that's not an uncommon misunderstanding.

      First, Philip K. Dick never wrote a piece called "Blade Runner." A few of the major themes from his short story "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" were grabbed and incorporated into a completely different plot to make the movie "Blade Runner," but for the most part, "Blade Runner" isn't Phil Dick, and "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" was not made into a movie.

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  21. The other theme both PKD and Hollywood love is by rbrander · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...predicting the future is the most powerful superpower of all.

    Nic Cage was arguably a superhero in Next because seeing 2 minutes into the future let him outmanouver bad guys and walk through machine gun bursts untouched. Seeing an hour into the future let Tom Cruise and the precogs eliminate murder. And seeing a whole day into the future in Paycheck let Ben Affleck save the world.

    Even Dick's novels don't feed the need; Push showed Dakota Fanning the most important of a bunch of psychic heroes because the seers are always a step ahead of you.

    Not that Dick was way out there with that; it was the most powerful spice-given power in Dune, and even George Lucas makes it a plot-steering device in Star Wars. Just the ability to see a fraction of a second into the future made 9-year-old Anakin a top race driver.

    (Funny coincidence: not long after the recent Star Wars movies came out, BBC did a special "Top Gear" about race driving and the host actually took Michael Schumacher into a bar and demonstrated Schumacher was no better than anybody else at the old trick of "catch the bill before I drop it through your fingers". He has the same physical reaction time as anybody else. Top drivers like Schumacher *anticipate* what's coming next - seeing into the future by the ordinary ability of the brain to model the world - and actually start reacting to things before they happen. Lucas is really pretty smart, just not so hot at dialogue.)

    1. Re:The other theme both PKD and Hollywood love is by qc_dk · · Score: 3, Interesting

      (Funny coincidence: not long after the recent Star Wars movies came out, BBC did a special "Top Gear" about race driving and the host actually took Michael Schumacher into a bar and demonstrated Schumacher was no better than anybody else at the old trick of "catch the bill before I drop it through your fingers". He has the same physical reaction time as anybody else. Top drivers like Schumacher *anticipate* what's coming next - seeing into the future by the ordinary ability of the brain to model the world - and actually start reacting to things before they happen. Lucas is really pretty smart, just not so hot at dialogue.)

      I'm sure he has better physical reaction time, for things related to racing. He probably has programmed reflexes that are related to the feel of the steering wheel that are much faster than either yours or mine.

      I'm a fencer and I can see both(better model, better reflexes) working for me, when fencing beginners. I am better at predicting what people will do. My muscles are faster, and finally I can react faster. The final trick comes from not thinking about a move. If you have to do what Schumacher did in the test (observe,analyse,react) it's clear you are going to be about as fast as anyone else. With enough training you can teach your body to have certain reflexes that are much faster, because the action bypasses parts of the brain. (you can exploit this in fencing because if you discover your opponent has a reflex like this you can trigger it and know his reaction)

  22. Re:Some of P. K. Dick's stuff is great, but how ab by camperdave · · Score: 2, Insightful

    hopefully not even Hollywood can screw up that!

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  23. Re:Some of P. K. Dick's stuff is great, but how ab by sconeu · · Score: 2, Funny

    Baxter? Are you kidding? He spends 3 pages describing how to take a shit in an Apollo capsule.

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  24. No wonder they love Phillip K. Dick's stories by MartinSchou · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you look at Adjustment Team, we see that it is in the public domain.

    As is The Variable Man, The Golden Man, The Last of the Masters, Meddler, Shell Game, The Turning Wheel and possibly a number of other stories.

    But obviously this just proves, that without never ending copyright claims, the world will never see great art again.

  25. Re:Phil Dick Is A Good Writer by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And even enjoyable in a somewhat psychedelic sort of way but Hollywood never quite seems to get it.

    You might try the film version of "A Scanner Darkly." Unaccountably, they actually did try to hold to the Phil Dick original, rather than jettisoning the written work to write a different work "based on" the novel.

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  26. Re:Some of P. K. Dick's stuff is great, but how ab by imakemusic · · Score: 2, Funny

    Not as bad as Andy McNab. A chapter and a half of a guy sitting in a bush, shitting in a plastic bag. Thrilling stuff.

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  27. Does this mean we can call any PKD-based movie... by Tomsk70 · · Score: 3, Funny

    ....Dickensian?

  28. Re:awesome by dbIII · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Baron Munchausen apparently had huge numbers of things go wrong and in the end mostly due to timing it didn't make it into very many cinemas so didn't make much money. I think that's where he got the bad reputation from.
    However if you watch it on video it's so good that you just don't care. Apparently it was only "half done" but it doesn't look it, they still had enough footage and enough story to make a fun movie.
    Also since Hollywood is always crying crocodile tears about money in case they'll end up paying tax some day, I'm not entirely sure that the loss was a big as reported or even actually a loss. Remember that on paper Forest Gump made a loss despite not costing a lot to make and being incredibly popular - and that paper loss meant not having to pay a percentage of profits to the writer and not having to pay tax.

  29. Re:awesome by glwtta · · Score: 3, Funny

    Then we can look forward to a movie 10 years late, substantially overbudget, yet still looks half-done.

    Well, not everyone can compete with the polished perfection of Michael Bay movies.

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  30. Re:Some of P. K. Dick's stuff is great, but how ab by radtea · · Score: 2, Informative

    That was about as hard sci-fi as it gets.

    Nope. It was a fantasy film with spaceships.

    Hard SF is generally populated with plausible science and believable if somewhat limited characters, not magical spacecraft and people who were clearly hand-picked for the most important mission ever out of the leavings of a psychiatric hospital.

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  31. . . . of course. . . by jafac · · Score: 3, Informative

    . . . Hollywould "gets it". . . LONG after PKD's coolness buzz has faded. That's the way Big Money works. It's the way Big Money has ALWAYS worked. It's really what "cool" was first all about - until they tried to package and market cool to us. Then it was what "punk" was all about. (wash-rinse-repeat).

    Change the name, but it will always be the same: The folks who try to tell us that getting rich is all about taking risks, are really the most financially secure (relatively), and therefore the most risk-averse folks on the planet, and therefore, as far as cultural trends go, will always pretty much be positioned way far back on the long-tail as far as coolness goes.

    A person with a $400 million trust-fund in the bank risking his own $5 million investing in a film based on a PKD story, in 2010, is NOT anything like "cool". Though, the rank and file hoi polloi market will reward him generously.

    A person with $20 in the bank risking $5 (possibly tomorrow's dinner, or the electric bill, or prescription co-pay for his antidepressant meds) on a paperback novel by a new, unknown, unpromoted writer published by an off-brand house (maybe self-published, these days), with fresh ideas that haven't been recycled a dozen thousand times by low-budget mass-market screenwriters - is the definition of cool. That guy will earn the small-scale social respect of his peers by relating his experience in reading the book, in casual conversation. That's how social animals work.

    Then, in 15 years, when the trustafarians decide this writer's popularity has safely gained enough critical mass that they can risk .001% (insured) of their net worth on a film, that "cool" person, and his peers will puke when they see the trailer.

    Nobody expresses this phenomenon as succinctly as "Indy-rock Pete" in Diesel Sweeties. Which, I think, ceased being cool about 5 minutes before I "discovered" and started reading it. I'm waiting for the Michael Bey version of Diesel Sweeties. 16-bit graphics and all. In 3D Imax, Dolby Surround.

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    1. Re:. . . of course. . . by brianleb321 · · Score: 2, Informative

      You sound a little too hung up on 'cool,' friend. Enjoy what's good. Enjoy what you want. Why is it wrong for someone with money to fund a movie? Why is it cool for someone to risk his immediate fiscal future on a book? I've read some books that I enjoyed, even though some of them were published before I was born. Because I'm taking an interest in it after the fact, does that make me uncool? Just because someone has money doesn't mean that everything they produce is going to be white washed, over done garbage.

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  32. new fan of Phil K Dick by CosaNostra+Pizza+Inc · · Score: 3, Informative

    I always liked Blade Runner, the movie. I've also always loved reading sci fi. Recently, I read "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" and loved it. My next read is "Ubik".

  33. Re:awesome by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Funny

    I fail to see how any of those movies "look half done."

    Really?

    The Gilliam movies I've seen are Time Bandidts,

    They didn't even hire a real minotaur! And the only reason it starred midgets is because actors were paid by the foot back then.

    Twelve Monkeys

    Yeah someone really dropped the ball in the animal department. I think there was, at most, one monkey in this movie. This one wasn't even half done!

    and Brazil

    And there's even less Brazil in Brazil than there were monkeys in Twelve Monkeys.

    What a hack!

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  34. Richard Morgan's Takeshi Kovacs trilogy by theolein · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would love to see a good rendition of Altered Carbon, Broken Angels and Woken Furies. Especially the last one was, IMO, extremely good and it would be hard to mess it up as its very action orientated and the extoic location would lend itself to special effects which big studios love so much. What would be hard to do right without a good director and actor would be the rage that the man feels. It would require someone like Daniel Craig, who really did the "man seething with rage" bit very well in a Quantum of Solace. I'm also pretty sure that the studios would not go with such a nihilistic message in a movie.