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Microsoft Clears MechWarrior4 Free Launch

Vamman writes "If you've been following the drama surrounding the free release of MechWarrior4, then you're probably aware that the initial announcement, made last summer, was a bit premature. Now, nearly a year since that announcement was made, MekTek Studios has announced that Microsoft Legal has given clearance for the free release of Mechwarrior4. This move by Microsoft Games couldn't come at a better time for the community, as the owners of MechWarrior are attempting a reboot of the franchise."

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  1. Can't be... by Jedi+Alec · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft is evil...but mechs are soooooo cool(and impractical).

    Yet Microsoft is evil...

    But mechs are really, really cool.

    *head explodes*

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  2. Re:Microsoft !=evil? by iamhassi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, Microsoft is still evil, but this certainly helped their karma

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  3. Get the MW mod for crysis instead by assemblerex · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You need to check out this mod, it probably better than anything MS will ever kick out the door. http://www.mechlivinglegends.net/

  4. Possible Future of Marketing Franchises? by cheesethegreat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Releasing the one-before-last as freeware seems a pretty sensible move for anyone marketing a franchise (yes, I know that MS aren't the ones pushing the new MW to market, but this is still relevant).

    Releasing Bioshock 3? Put Bioshock 1 out as freeware. You're not going to lose any money, the people who were going to buy it won't wait 3 years just to get it free (especially when you've already released 2). All you do is potentially pull more people into the game who will take a look at it and think "hmm, if I like this one that's 3 years old, maybe I'll like the one they're about to release".

    Developers are starting to talk about not wanting to release demos, and instead going with payware. This would allow multiple tiers of demo-type experience for the consumer. For example, with Mass Effect 3, it could work like this:

    Tier 1: Freeware of ME1, released onto BitTorrent or equivalent to minimize distribution cost
    Tier 2: Payware demo from the current release (perhaps including a full-access version of ME 2)
    Tier 3: Full-cost version of ME3

    This may be the way forward. I might be okay with losing demos, if I'm going to be able to see previous versions of the game in freeware form.

    1. Re:Possible Future of Marketing Franchises? by delinear · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm not sure that's necessarily true - I've been able to easily find Doom and Monkey Island "free" for many years, and even downloaded and played the first Monkey Island through again about five years ago, but that hasn't stopped me playing these again on the 360 (admittedly ME has updated graphics, but it's essentially the same game). The key thing is pricing, people don't want to pay a fortune for such old games, but offer them at a pocket money price and plenty of people will re-buy them. Of course if they do polish the original a little they give an added reason to buy.

    2. Re:Possible Future of Marketing Franchises? by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 2, Informative

      MW2: Mercenaries still has, by far, the best intro sequence of any game ever released. Closely followed by the original Dawn of War.

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    3. Re:Possible Future of Marketing Franchises? by hairyfeet · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well I would say it depends on whether they give you good value for the money or whether they just stick the old game on a server and expect to rake in more cash. Because funny that you should mention it but I just bought the original Fallout from GOG when they had it on sale for $3. Why did I buy it when there are still sites that offer the old free version they released a few years ago?

      Because GOG goes out of their way to make sure the games play nicely on today's hardware without hassle. Thanks to their customized DOSBox install I have Fallout, Redneck Rampage, Beneath a Steel Sky, and all work perfectly on Windows 7 x64. No tweaking, or dealing with sound issues, or fiddling with DOSBox, it all just works without having to do anything more than install and click on the desktop link. And if that alone wasn't worth $3, they give you soundtracks, strategy guides, wallpapers, etc, and all with NO DRM and easy to backup installers along with unlimited downloads and installs.

      So I'd say it all comes down to giving the customer the extra value to make buying an older game worth it. Would I buy Mech 4 off of GOG? If they did it like many of the others, with the expansion pack, mech packs, soundtracks, and all the extras already installed and ready to go, yeah I'd consider shelling out another $5-$10 just to not have the hassle of digging out my old Mech 4 discs and getting them set up for x64. If you want customers to buy older games, especially those for dead OSes, you really need to go the extra mile to make it worth buying. Oh and for those that haven't checked out GOG yet, set you up an account and you can get 3 free games including Beneath a Steel Sky to get you started. But I have a feeling once you see how easy shopping at GOG is, and how nicely they treat you, you'll end up hooked like me.

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    4. Re:Possible Future of Marketing Franchises? by Jaysyn · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yup, Gog is awesome & they just re-released Master of Orion 1 & 2 earlier this week.

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  5. Re:Microsoft !=evil? by DirtyCanuck · · Score: 5, Funny

    "So is Microsoft no longer evil? I'm sure some slashdotters will find a way of turning this nice move by Microsoft into something sinister."

    We all know this is part of the Microsoft agenda to convert human souls into Mechwarriors.

    That little prick Gates is behind it all. His smug smile and endless charity all a guise to cover his plan for world domination.

    Open your eyes people

  6. Re:Microsoft !=evil? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not many publishers do so, and Sierra and LucasArts still after ~20 years send cease & desist letters to abandonware sites if they distribute their old games.

    I think Microsoft Games was the most sensible part of the company anyway. Age of Empires, Midtown Madness, Motocross Madness, Flight Simulator.. I have great memories of those. It's a shame that division isn't what it used to be, but are only working 360 and such now.

    (posting as anon as someone used their 15 modpoints to burn my karma and posting ability for the day. when will slashdot fix that?)

  7. Well... by Cryacin · · Score: 2, Funny

    How's it feel to be strapped into a 45 ton walking nuke reactor at 6am?

    Damn fine, that's what. Damn fiiine.

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    1. Re:Well... by ScaledLizard · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can use MechVM to set up MW2 and find out:
      http://www.mechvm.org/

      More info and discussions:
      http://www.mech2.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=24&sid=e01242e30227541e3a1fa45f9fc5d72a

    2. Re:Well... by Sulphur · · Score: 2, Funny

      I love the smell of neutrons in the morning.

  8. Re:Too bad... by deniable · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For now, there's Megamek.

  9. Re:Too bad... by walshy007 · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's the source code for mechcommander 2 not mechcommander, still very neat but if it was the first game I imagine it would already be ported to linux.

  10. Re:Microsoft !=evil? by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It makes little sense to classify a company as evil or !evil over an extended period of time. They are a company, run by an often-changing group of people. They have no sentimental ties to their previous behaviour, and as such, they can turn on a dime. Microsoft releasing mw4 today doesn't mean they won't sue Linux contributors for patent infringement the next (I know, bad example).

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  11. Re:Microsoft !=evil? by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Funny

    You know how good people have mistakes and accidentally do something evil?

    This is the same thing only reversed.

    Oops! my bad!

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  12. Re:Microsoft !=evil? by Chaos+Incarnate · · Score: 2, Informative

    Probably because Sierra and LucasArts are still exploiting their back catalog via rereleases on Steam and elsewhere.

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  13. Re:Microsoft !=evil? by ryanvm · · Score: 4, Funny

    Are you guys *still* doing the "Microsoft is Evil" bit? Man, get with the times. Microsoft is harmlessly wandering in the desert. Now, Apple is evil. Facebook is evil. And Google is under evaluation...

  14. Re:Microsoft !=evil? by d'fim · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No, Microsoft is still evil. But they've been evil so long that it got boring. Now they have company.

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  15. Re:Microsoft !=evil? by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And they're both members of that very rare and elite group, 'companies that have been around that long.'

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  16. Why this is a good idea by ILuvRamen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    More companies really need to do this to older games! Starcraft sort of did it by including a no CD "crack" in one of their updates a few years back. Dungeons and Dragons Online went free to play after several years of falling $15/month subscriptions. Now I think they have more players than they did at the peak of their subscriptions! Newegg included a free copy of Rainbow 6 Vegas 2 in one of my orders just labeled "free gift" and I totally love it! It made me seriously consider playing other versions (until the reviews said they sucked). There's no better way to get someone involved in a series of games than giving them an older version of it for free. It reeeeeally makes them wonder how awesome newer versions of the game are.

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  17. Re:All of you ..... by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Informative

    yes because Bushwhackers with absolutely no armor loaded down with nothing but medium pulse lasers should be able to cripple Atlases and other Assault Mechs with ease.

    Speaking as someone who's been at the top of the attrition and team attrition rankings at the ends of months and not just at the beginnings, once you get good with lasers, this is totally reasonable. That's why energy weapons are so very desirable, and why Battletech probably ought to have had even higher heat penalties, or lower damage, for all energy weapons save possibly PPCs, which are at least slightly challenging when you consider the long recycle time. I guess that's another option that could have been explored.

    The way to defend against 'mechs like that is to have a good assortment of long-range heavy weapons. My favorite tank is the dieshit with the 6 ER LL; if you fire them one at a time, and you are good, and the lag is low, then you can watch to see when the opponent's torso has swung in your direction, and you can ding them on the arm on the side that they're turning towards, which causes them to be facing way past you. With 6 of them your recycle rate is such that you can do this more or less continuously. Another option is to stack 5 LRM15s onto something that can actually mount that many missiles; if you are a good enough gunner you can stay to long ranges and keep their cockpit full of fire nonstop to where they can barely see you.

    I really loved playing Mechwarrior, as compared to playing Battletech with miniatures (I think I still have some minis here somewhere) because it's about skill, not rolling dice. You're as successful as you are good. There's a real sense of achievement when you climb to the top of a stat ladder of thousands or even tens of thousands. Even if it was on the points-for-damage and not the kill board, I don't think I ever topped destruction but I acquitted myself well enough there. And CtF was also great fun in Mech IV, the Shadow Cat is your friend. Put one AC10 or a couple AC5s on it, make it go fast, max the armor, give it jump. I am so eager for this release I can almost feel the joystick. Er, wait...

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  18. Re:All of you ..... by Draek · · Score: 2

    No, it wasn't, and no it wasn't. The best of the series was either MW2:Merc or MW4:Merc, depending on who you ask and how successful you were at trying to run a late-DOS game on Win9x and above, and MW4 was quite good actually, though like MW2 its "Mercenaries" expansion overshadowed it in all aspects.

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