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EyeDriver Lets Drivers Steer Car With Their Eyes
Hugh Pickens writes "NPR reports that German researchers have tested a new technology called eyeDriver that tracks a driver's eye movement and, in turn, steers the car in whatever direction they're looking at speeds up to 31 mph. 'The next step will be to get it to drive 60 miles per hour,' says Raul Rojas, an artificial intelligence researcher at Berlin's Free University. A Dodge Caravan fitted with eyeDriver has been tested on the tarmac at an abandoned airport at Tempelhof Airport. However, it remains unclear when — or if — the technology will be commercialized, as questions about safety and practicability abound: What about looking at a cute girl next to the road for a few seconds? Not to mention taking phone calls or typing a text while driving. But the researchers have an answer to distracted drivers: 'The Spirit of Berlin' is also an autonomous car equipped with GPS navigation, scores of cameras, lasers, and scanners that enable it to drive by itself. And should the technology-packed vehicle have a major bug, there's still an old fashioned way of stopping it. Two big external emergency buttons at the rear of the car allow people outside to shut down all systems."
So we want cars to steer towards what we are looking at? Seriously? You want to have all the cute women in the world run over?
This is exactly what we need!
So what happens when a long legged angel in a summer dress walks past? Is she going to get run over?
Make sure you don't go into REM sleep at the wheel!
just sayin
Once they figure out how to steer the car by thought, I'm going to be at Taco Bell a lot.
why rehash a joke thats ALREADY IN TFS. 4/6 comments so far are redundant. you guys aren't even trying today.
granted, neither are the editors.
back on topic: WTF? this is a fucking terrible idea. i hate researchers.
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"Two big external emergency buttons at the rear of the car allow people outside to shut down all systems" Lotta good those buttons will do for someone who's about to be run over head on.
"Two big external emergency buttons at the rear of the car allow people outside to shut down all systems"
It can only be stopped if it is stopped...
Or someone with a rock and extremely good aim!
Why would they use Dodge Caravan (and call it...'The Spirit of Berlin' O_o ) when there's so many German minivans for the taking? (heck, VW popularised the concept)
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In other other new, bad looking women don't seem to notice the change.
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What could possibly go wrong?
Driving in the direction you are looking is a terrible idea.
Here in the UK you don't pass a driving test without using your rear view mirror, your side mirrors; and looking when appropriate through the side or rear windows. Just because you are looking for potential dangers doesn't mean you want to steer into them (e.g. a car overtaking you). Applying makeup etc. or tuning the radio would be unusually lethal.
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I would hate to have this on my car.
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How many attractive women are going to be plowed down by idiots who can't take their off them?
Look at that... CRASH!!!!... babe.
That is all.
This scheme can only work in muslim countries with strict requirements for women to cover themselves.
Anywhere else and all the pretty women will soon be run over and killed.
When information is power, privacy is freedom.
So are hookers.
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You know, the first thought I had when I read this was: as soon as this goes live there will be a rash of hot women mowed down on the street...
Kind of like the EyeDriver, but Steve Jobs drives your car with his own eyes. This ensures a consistent driving experience, so long as you only want to go where he sends you.
-Lod
This is a terrible idea because it unnecessarily links control of the car together with attention. Even covert attention (moving your attention around without moving your eyes) is coupled to the eye movement system in the brain (covertly shifting attention to a different part of the visual field really involves planning eye movements towards that spot). You need to have control of your vehicle uncoupled from this process, since driving requires you to pay attention to many things at once. There's no reason to hijack this system for control when we have a very effective one already.
We should be trying to free up our effectors, not shift around responsibilities among them. What we really want to do is to hook into ventral premotor cortex directly with a wireless connection so we can control the car with thought and still have our hands free.
Taking a systems primary input mechanism (human sight) and limiting it to basic directional management in a vehicle is the stupidest idea I have heard in a long time. The car would need to have dynamic braille readers on the steering wheel just to convey the rest of the information usually conveyed through the visual cortex. Speed, revs, mirrors. Just plain dumb objective.
Blink and you're dead. Don't turn your back. Don't look away. And don't Blink. Good Luck.
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One of the first things you learn in any driver's education class is to constantly scan the road ahead of you and pay attention to your surroundings while driving, which involves a lot of eye movement (generally in the direction of forward, but eye movement nonetheless). What happens to this system when your eyes are looking a few cars ahead? What happens to the system when you're trying to make a lane change? What happens when reversing?
It's an interesting concept, but... Well, tracking eye movement for vehicular control is probably one of the worst applications I can think of. Unless they know something I don't?
But thankfully, should anything go awry at 31~60MPH, you can always run up and hit the big emergency shut-off buttons on the rear exterior of the vehicle.
Screw the rules, I have green hair!
aim for the space ahead, never look at what you're trying to avoid (because you'll veer towards it). I believe another word for this phenomenon is target fixation.
What problem is this actually trying to solve? Are people really finding it too difficult use their arms to drive? Or is this aimed at people who can't drive right now, because they have no arms?
An old saying that suddenly starts to seem a lot more important.
Unforunately now, you can't look both ways at a 4-way stop anymore, because you'll wind up turning.
Advanced driving courses always teach scanning techniques for driving that include looking not only where you are going, but constantly scanning for pedestrians on either side of the road, cars that may or may not see you about to turn in front of you, cars in your left and right side mirrors, and cars in your rear view mirror. They also teach to always have an escape route: if the unexpected happens, always have a place you can steer to to avoid a hazard without crashing into another car or a pedestrian. You can't do these things if you always have to look only where you want the car to go. Peripheral vision is not acute enough to pick up, for example, the shadow of a person's feet beneath a huge SUV parked on the side of a road, where that person may suddenly step out in front of you without looking since the SUV is blocking both your and their line of sight. Unless entirely autonomous, the vehicle's control surfaces HAVE to be independent of eye movement, because situational awareness depends on it (even in some cases the ability to turn your head to check a blind spot, or to see if your kid in the back seat isn't choking on his or her toys).
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People do this already. To learn to drive a car, ride a bike, ski, or control any other type of vehicle, you go through a learning process where you commit the control procedures to muscle memory. Once you have that covered, you pretty much go where you want to go, without necessarily thinking 'ok, now I need to turn the steering wheel'.
By and large, barring any significant equipment failure, you pretty much go towards whatever has your attention - for better or worse. Target fixation is alive and well in pretty much all of us. If you're on your bike and you keep staring at it, you'll most likely hit it. If you look at the path around it, most likely you won't. It has nothing to do with your ability to control the bike, and everything with the ability to control your attention.
I feel really bad for the poor guy changing the flat tire, or getting the traffic ticket...but as a Darwinist it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.
If your car's design requires a pair of "big external emergency buttons at the rear", there's definitely something wrong with your design.
"In prison you just have to shut your eyes and take it. Here you have to shut your eyes and give it."
What happens when you blink? Or sneeze?
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I'm sure the large emergency buttons in the back of the vehicle will come in very handy when speeding uncontrollably down the freeway.
With most people that drive while texting or looking cellphone, the car should see that idiot is not looking at road and pull over to the side of the road safely so that the idiot knows that person is no looking at the road.
"You have chosen to look at an accident. Would you like to join the accident?"
Especially given how many people find it necessary to constantly make eye contact with their passengers when talking. Ah, well. At least it would cull the herd. It's too bad it'll take out so many innocents in the process though; surely there's a more efficient way.
Alright, that aside... it looks like it won't be that sensitive after RTFA:
"The car stops at intersections and asks the driver for guidance on which road to take," the researchers say. A few seconds of attention with the driver looking in his desired direction get the car flowing again.
Heh. That'll be even better. Could you imagine stopping at every intersection... "Please indicate direction..." ... roll forward a block ... "please indicate direction..." ... roll forward...
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Why would anyone take the time to design a device like this without having any understanding of what a normal driver does with their eyes in the course of operating a motor vehicle? Could the designer possibly be such a bad driver that they only look ahead where they are going? Why would anyone fund a design program run by someone that doesn't even know how to drive? That would be like hiring Sarah Palin to be president.
I've never understood this desire for eye controlled devices. With the exception of targeting a personal firearm, my eyes bounce around to so many objects so fast that I can barely type a sentence without getting completely distracted. If the cursor was controlled by my eyes while I was typing this paragraph would be nothing but a jumble of text, and half the letters would be strewn about my office.
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What if you're trying not to hit a pedestrian but in concentrating do so? Not good.
There's a lot of problems, but no one has mentioned drunk drivers yet. The problem with drunk drivers is that they'll fixate on something in front of them and follow it. That's why you have to pay attention at night if you are parked on the side of the road with your lights on. Drunk drivers will hone in on your lights and hit you. Seems like this eye-drive would only make that easier. Then again I guess a drunk driver is pretty deadly even without this.
(Bonus points if you can tell me whether I'll get sued by apple or BMW first for the iDrive pun)
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Have the developers of this product never driven before?
and never even bothered to read a book about recommended/required driving practices?
It is impossible to drive while just looking at were you have to drive.
you have to check gauges, mirrors, keep an eye all other traffic, etc.
I suppose you could drive down the street with this and you might not get into an accident, but you would never be allowed to pass a drivers test.
As far as I can tell this idea is fundamentally flawed and cannot ever possibly work.
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So when there is a car accident on the side of the road... everyone will just drive into it?..
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'The Spirit of Berlin' is also an autonomous car equipped with GPS navigation, scores of cameras, lasers and scanners that enable it to drive by itself. And should the technology-packed vehicle have a major bug, there's still an old fashioned way of stopping it. Two big external emergency buttons at the rear of the car allow people outside to shut down all systems.
Else the Spirit of Berlin might start looking like the Spirit of Dresden fairly quickly... but if the thing ends up out of control, what the hell good will buttons outside the thing do? Are they expecting someone to chase it?
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An eye controlled firearm might make more sense. It sights where you look. And it could fire every time you blink. Now we are talking. If you blinked every time a weapon fired it would be fully automatic fire. It would make a great hunting weapon.
Just don't look at the oncoming Traffic. This is a late April fools joke, me thinks !
If you turned around to check your blind spot would it reverse?
the car steers you!!!
So we want cars to steer towards what we are looking at? Seriously? You want to have all the cute women in the world run over?
While the comment WAS funny there is a problem with something like that already.
It's been known for decades that drunk drivers tend to fixate on flashing yellow lights and then steer toward them. This makes using flashing yellow lights as a warning counter-productive.
Oregon, for instance, long ago switched away from blinky-yellow lights to the rear on police cars to use as warning lights when they have people pulled over - with a significant reduction in car-hits-cop-at-traffic-stop incidents.
California, of course, has standardized on big yellow blinky-lights for cop car pullover warnings. (I recall a few years back when San Jose was lamenting how many of their new fleet of cruisers had been smashed by drunk drivers that year...)
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It's redundant with the fucking article summary.
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Of course with the iDriver, your route will have to be approved by apple 3 weeks in advance.
There's an App for that!
IANAS, but couldn't they seriously cut these practicality issues in half if they just used head rotation instead of eye position?
What if some people want some sort of "round lever" if you will, that we can use with our manipulators [hands] on to receive instant tactile feedback about the road?
Anyone ride a motorcycle? They always teach you to "look through your turns" because the bike tends to go where your head is aimed. Regularly accidents happen in which a bike swerves into another vehicle because the rider panics and looks where they don't want to go instead of where they do. Now we can bring this great feature to cars?
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Don't look directly at that car that's about to t-bone yours.
What happens when a deer runs onto the shoulder of the road in front of you? Most people would probably look at the deer, not away from it.
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And this is how Billy McGomper, age 6, of Tuscaloosa, AL, managed to drive his grandmother's SUV onto Highway 115 after he stole the keys, causing a 100 car pile-up and a gas truck explosion. However, his record was beat by Blind Lemon Schwartz of New Orleans, who not only lacked eyesight but was drunk as a skunk when he drove a borrowed car over 12 elderly ladies and a dog before careening off a pier onto the deck of a boat, sinking it.
What if Steve Buscemi, Marty Feldman and Jack Elam want to go for a drive in one of these things?
people dont just stair where they wanna go. we are tought from the very start or driving to pay attention to everything. and its a important lesson. stuff you can do on a test track and real world driving are way different. we have to be constantly looking for stupid drivers who cut us off turn in front of us and otherwise make driving a challenge we do most of are lifes. auto driving systems might work on a freeway but defently not one that uses your eyes and no system will work in city driving. but lets face it when we are on cruse controle on a freeway all we are doing is keeping the car in its lane. and a driver with lack of sleep the task is aruldy to simple and people fall asleep driving. imagine you having to do no task with a full auto drive we will have far more sleeping driver realted accdents. if they ever do come up with a system that works they better still include manual control. maybe just use the same simple feature cruse controle does where tapping the brake disengages it so if you do have to make a quick stop thers no problem. i would be more worryed of people depending on it to much rather then preferring driving the car on there own.
Why?
Do the expression:
Mom what's that - finger pointing to your right window seat
rings a bell?
Also let us remind one thing, most basic one, you move things with your hands, you see things with your eyes. Unless we move to a Jedi state where we can start messing up our surroundings by the power of the force.
I sense a weak force among these guys :)
This ensures a consistent driving experience, so long as you only want to go where he sends you.
Yes, but on the other hand you are automatically re-routed around all of the upside-down Vista cars.
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schreeeeech bugger looked in rear mirror again. seriously 1 step forward two steps back.
right into their cellphone...
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Yeah and when a big angry wasp flies in through the window......
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They should have used a black Pontiac Firebird Trans Am.
Oh and they should also implement a voice control and response system
I think that about sums it up :)
What if the driver has no eyes???? Did they think of that?
... is this about doing it because they can?
while I can see some uses for this, I can't really see any reason to do it because of the dangers.
First off, if it's for people with no arms, or handicapped arms, I think there's a better alternative then driving.
the other thing that worries me is, at least when I was in driving school, that your supposed to be paying attention to whats around you. Glance at the review mirror, glance at the side mirrors, look at whats in front of you thru the front, not just the spot your trying to go to.
In fact, they made it a point to tell us NOT to get fixated on where your driving, because you'll zone out whats around you.
then again, we don't have the autobahn here in the USA.
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... if you are riding down the road and see an object (such as a pothole or large stone or piece of exhaust pipe) that you wish to avoid, THE LAST THING YOU DO IS LOOK AT IT, because you do ride where you look.
This is a lesson that bikers learn the hard way, you fall off and get hurt.
Car drivers are different, so you will have car drivers who notice obstacles in the road as being more visually interesting than the blacktop itself, and promptly drive though / over / into all of them.
"Rubbernecking" also means that every single accident suddenly becomes a gravitational black hole, and the possibility of any vehicle passing it without adding to it approaches zero.
The steering wheel works perfectly well, just ask Michael Schumacher, if you are going to mess with that then go directly to fully automated, cut the human right out of the control system.
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Sure someone drives into a jogger at 60mph, but then a few people turn their heads at the gruesome sight.. they just cant look away.. Then the concerned people realize whats going to happen and cant look away.. before long you have smoking piles of cars in a mountain of carnage.
Aren't most of the accidents that happen at speeds under 30mph?
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A driver benefits just as much from the tactile feedback they receive from the steering wheel as they do from looking where they are going. Why in the world would anyone want to steer a car and not be able to feel the road?
Evidently LOTS of people like to be removed from the driving equation given how many American cars are engineered to NOT give drivers any feedback (SUVs, large sedans like the Crown Victoria and its ilk, random crappy car with the sponge suspension and numb steering, etc.).
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