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Israel Repeals iPad Ban
SillySilly writes "The ban has been lifted: The Communications Ministry announced Saturday evening that starting Sunday it will allow Apple's iPad tablet computer into the country, following two weeks of confiscations and confusion."
If the device violates their wireless standards then why the hell should they allow it to operate in their country?
Well you know what the nation of Israel is like, they're always initially suspicious of new tablets. But they come around in the end.
At least they finally got it tested so it proved what it said. Isralies are picky to a fault.
But you can't ship 'em in yet. Limit's only one per person, so no gifting yet.
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Apple doesn't have enough supply of the iPad to do a worldwide release because they're delaying American shipments and imposing purchasing limits on large buyers. As a result, they didn't do international standards testing because they aren't selling it everywhere yet. It looks like Israel was the only nation to make a big no-importing stink over the uncertified status... so really this Apple cleaning up a problem caused by excessive demand, something they should be used to by now.
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If the device violates their wireless standards then why the hell should they allow it to operate in their country?
It shouldn't. But it doesn't.
The whole issue was that it was untested. That was it. As with any bureaucracy, rules must be obeyed even if in the end the result is the same.
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Apple's iPad tablet computer
I don't really consider the iPad to be much of a computer.
Have they confiscated enough of them to thoroughly document them enough to begin the reverse engineering process?
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This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
Sometimes it seems like Slashdot posts stories about Israel for no other reason than to get people to start arguing. Come to think of it, the same goes for Apple.
Why does anyone need to know this? There's really not much discussion you can have about "this country lets you bring iPads" in, before this whole pages inevitably devolves into endless flaming about 1) Israel's foreign policy and/or 2) how the iPad sucks because it's a closed platform or whatever.
I'm just saying, it'd be cool if the editors stopped and asked themselves, "Are we posting this because it's important news that people should know, or are we posting it because we want to watch it draw trolls like moths to a flame?". This story is firmly in category 2.
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Palestinians just need new wireless cards to return?
I don't really consider the iPad to be much of a computer.
And many don't consider the computer (as we know it) to be much of a tablet.
The difference is what makes it better, and why they seem to be succeeding when other tablet efforts have come out flat.
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My advice to you: Be like Hitler, and kill yourself!
...following two weeks of confiscations and confusion.
Clearly, someone didn't feel like just waiting in line for their own, eh?
That and the Israelis love a good bribe just like everyone else.
I resent the insinuation that anyone who has something negative to say about Apple or Israel is somehow a troll.
If you can't have an intelligent conversation about the merits and demerits of a technology, maybe this isn't the site for you.
We know you love Apple and Israel. But that doesn't magically bestow any extra weight to your opinions.
So cut it out with ad hominem attacks. If you can't defend yourself, your favorite computer company, or your favorite country with reason and argument, then stay lurking. Because those of us who can attack and defend aren't pulling any punches.
but don't try to pin the innocuous confiscation of iPads on some weirdo paranoid delusion about Mossad.
That was cute especially since you added your own "weirdo paranoid delusion" to your reply.
You don't choose your race. But you choose a religion, if any. Making fun of others because of their beliefs is less worst than making fun of others because of what race or sex they are.
> If your iPad was confiscated by customs officials
> atBen-Gurion International Airport, you can now
> pick it up
Questions:
* did that affect people travelling to Israel as tourists or just locals returning home with a product from overseas who declared it at customs ?
* if you were a tourist, was your iPad returned when you left the country ?
* if not, do you have to go back to Israel to get it returned or can they ship it to you ?
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Which delusion?.....I don't think you'll find anything delusional about my post. Maybe you need to consider your own biases.
You just contradicted the post (of yours) I replied to (and quoted) or you are going off-topic and adding what the Mossad has done that is evil.
Unless those supplied post are about how Mossad is not really a weapon but "right-wing zealot settlers." And what makes the settlers right-wing? The fact of wanting to settle in Israel won land?
The same could be said about Australia any time it's government does anything stupid related to technology, thus I suggest growing up.
We are not all out to get you.
Well, I'm glad to know that bigotry is acceptable! I'm off to make Jew jokes and then get upset that people get angry with me. After all, Jewish people chose their religion, didn't they?
Its interesting that the same President that see racism in the legitimate actions of the Cambridge Police and the State of Arizona, hides the anti-Semitic prose of its National Security Adviser.
You will know racism is sufficiently dead when we can tell jokes again. I don't know if James Jones is actually anti-semitic, but telling a joke about a race does not alone make one racist, any more than telling a blonde joke makes someone anti-blonde.
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er...Jew is a race. "Real" Jews can in fact be identified by DNA.
http://www.healthanddna.com/ancestry-dna-testing/jewish-dna.html
Really that's just a story about an idiot that thinks he should start a presentation with an ethnic joke. It doesn't matter enough to make much fuss over because you can be sure that such an idiot doesn't do much of the real work.
Add to that the usually ignored fact that it was Israeli land that was occupied by Jordan and Egypt for 19 years before the Jordanian and Egyptian occupation was lifted.
Funny how during those 19 years of Jordanian occupation of the West Bank and Egyptian occupation of Gaza that nobody ever suggested a Palestinian state in those occupied territories. And that during those 19 years (and the 40 years since then) the 400,000 or so refugees from the 1948 war were kept blocked up in the "camps" and not allowed to disperse among their Muslim brethren, nor those from the West Bank area and Gaza allowed to return to their homes in the West Bank and Gaza, as all other refugees from all other wars all over the world do.
The iPad is now KOSHER!!!
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Hahaha a Jew gene. All the other Jews are fakes just trying to piss Hamas off.
He jew that...
I think the bigger question is how 1,000's of other foreign products go in without any problems. Why was the iPad singled out? If I take my new HTC phone fresh from Taiwan and unlicensed in Israel, they are not going to seize it.
Time offers an explanation:
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1983236,00.html
"It is worth noting," Etengoff wrote, "that Apple's Israeli distributor, iDigital, is run by Chemi Peres, the hyper-entrepreneurial son of Israeli President Shimon Peres.
"Clearly, iDigital wants its lucrative cut of every iPad brought into the country — which it will undoubtedly receive when a modified European version of the iPad is approved for import over the next two or three months.
no. but they have confiscated enough to make all the custom agents and their families happy.
"The whole issue was that it was untested. That was it. As with any bureaucracy, rules must be obeyed even if in the end the result is the same."
Indeed, though I'd go further than saying it is true of bureaucracies to any organisation or nation. Would the USA trust a device made in China (for example) if the Chinese government said they'd tested it? Probably not. Would a US company (say Ford, or Cisco, or Apple) trust a foreign made device because the Chinese/Italian/Kazakh/whatever makers said they'd tested it? Probably not.
I suppose it's down to a> how much you trust the people who tell you they've tested it and b> how much trouble you'll be in if it goes wrong and you've just taken somebody else's word that it's safe/within correct bounds when it actually proves to not be so.
I should imagine in the USA with the whole run-by-lawyers culture, sue-you-for-anything there's a lot of pressure to do your own testing to make sure devices do actually behave how they are meant to. Not sure what the drive is in Israel but I guess it's perfectly believable similar pressures happen there.
er...Jew is a race. "Real" Jews can in fact be identified by DNA.
There's DNA you may identify was "jew", but things are not that simple.
The moment you make such connection a rule, you'll end up with things like jew families who are no longer jews and weird things like christian jews.
This whole debate of who is a jew is a mess. If you want to know more, you may start here and here.
It was a mess, is all I can tell yew.
then what do you call a practitioner of judaism?
Don't forget you are dealing with a group that makes "The Family" look kind at times and they have both lots of desert and a very nice body of water to hide stuff. If the Massad wanted to get a shipping container of iPads for whatever reason most likely they would just ask for them (and get them) or they would just "vanish".
Just remember if you go far enough back both groups involved are in fact Family.
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The joke was racist against Muslims too, wasn't it? Did the fact that the wandering man was a Taliban add anything to the joke? Would the joke have been less funny or lost some subtle context if the "Taliban" was just described as a "man"? Where's your indignation on that matter?
Israel just "banned" them so they could confiscate them...they wanted iPads, they just didn't want to wait in line at launch. ;)
If you're going to buy an Apple to use an Apple, why would you make it run like an orange?
Because not all applications on which a business depends are available for Mac OS X. That's why Orange Micro used to sell single-board PCs that fit in one of a Mac's slots. This was faster than the emulation that was otherwise required before Apple switched to x86 CPUs.
Because I can tell you right now that if you buy a mac you not only get the development tools for it (as well as the iPod touch, iPhone and iPad) for free
So if you have an iPad and you currently sync it with a PC, you need to buy a Mac mini and a subscription to a service that costs $99 per year (iPhone developer program) in order to turn your iPad into a computer. Otherwise, the iPad is called an "appliance". Your microwave oven has a microprocessor, but do you ordinarily think of it as a "computer"?
So your saying that Israel is a sign of things to come for the US?
Great, just fucking great.
This is a huge market for google....
As with ANY bureaucracy
Indeed, though I'd go further than saying it is true of bureaucracies to any organisation or nation.
Which part of my "ANY" was not clear?
It's hard to go further when I was already at the end of the line waiting.
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I don't think the Chinese have much to fear on the guns front but they definitely don't like their citizens to have certain information.
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the 400,000 or so refugees from the 1948 war were kept blocked up in the "camps" and not allowed to disperse among their Muslim brethren, nor those from the West Bank area and Gaza allowed to return to their homes in the West Bank and Gaza, as all other refugees from all other wars all over the world do.
Why should the refugees disperse amongst Muslim bretheren when they HAD homes stolen by Israelis?
Neat the way you ignore the fact that occupied Palestine(AKA Israel) has never allowed the right of return to those whose homes and land were stolen.
Occupied Palestine is an apartheid theocracy, where only those of a certain religion are allowed to rule.
The 400,000 were refugees from ethnic cleansing by
the various terrorist organisations who fought a nasty campaign in the late 1940'2 to ethnically cleanse a part of Palestine.
it just takes time for Israelis to read and understand the contents of the English written user manual ... j/k :)
we only use basic English words: "Like", "Facebook", "Comment", "Download"