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Backdoor Malware Targets Apple iPad

An anonymous reader writes "Apple iPad users are being warned of an email-borne threat which could give hackers unauthorised access to the device. The threat arrives via an unsolicited email urging the recipient to download the latest version of iTunes as a prelude to updating their iPad software. Apart from opening up a backdoor, it also tries to read the keys and serial numbers of the software installed on the device, and logs the passwords to any webmail, IM or protected storage accounts."

196 comments

  1. Wrong wrong wrong... by richy+freeway · · Score: 5, Informative

    This DOESN'T infect the iPad at all. It targets the idiots who bought an iPad but it is a WINDOWS virus.


    See here for further details : http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/26/ipad_backdoor/

    1. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait
      I love that article, especially the end:

      It's estimated that Apple has sold just over a million iPads to date. Since buyers are likely to have a lot of disposable income and not much sense, they make a great target for e-criminals.

      There's nothing like targeting Scott Adams' (Dilbert) "stupid / rich" market segment, huh?

    2. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by alphad0g · · Score: 5, Informative

      I concur. Article is incorrect and Slashdot just regurgitated it. At least the blog post by the original author is correct. A Windows trojan - nothing else.

    3. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just because you can't think differently in a manner identical to all the other fruits, doesn't make them idiots...

    4. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I was already wondering, wasn't the whole ban around unsigned software on i$whatever devices to keep malware from popping up?

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    5. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by TheKidWho · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The Luddites are out en-masse today.

    6. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Call me an idiot if you want. But I am an iPhone/iPod developer. Last year I made over $300K on my apps, and last month I made over $125K on JUST iPad versions of my apps.

      If buying an iPad so I can write software for it that I can sell it to other "idiots" makes me an idiot, then I'm being an "idiot" all the way to the bank.

      What do you do for a living?

    7. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by drewhk · · Score: 3, Funny

      I thought that you called the Windows users idiots ;)

    8. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But, but, but,... mommy... they use iPhones..

      Why aren't they idiots then...?

    9. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Unfortunately, "Backdoor Malware Targets iPad Users" wouldn't have had the word "Apple" in it, and thus would not be eligible to be a headline on Slashdot.

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    10. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by dskzero · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wrong thread, pal, this is for bashing apple fanbois, there is a thread about MS losing money over there.

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    11. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True because only IDIOTS have an ipad and use windows.

      I guess the idiot factor is using windows then?

    12. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I would whole heartedly agree with that statement.

      I had to clean 30 new "internet security 2010" infections this week... Even though the users have been instructed on how to not get infected....

      Honestly, 60% of all computer users are idiots... this is a universal fact.

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    13. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      What's wrong with the title "Windows Backdoor Malware Targets Apple iPad Users"

      Want to know what a real secure OS is? I don't see many OS/2 virii around.

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    14. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by NatasRevol · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yep, and it works great.

      This infection is a windows virus that runs on the windows machine, then tries to identify information being sent from the windows machine to the iPad, disguised as an iTunes update. It's a classic man-in-the-middle attack.

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    15. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great market segmentation !!!

    16. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by e4g4 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      60% is an extraordinarily optimistic estimate...

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    17. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      This is a pretty mundane Trojan. If you give the end user a means to run it, they probably will.

      This applies equally well to the Mac.

      How do you keep a moron with a shotgun from shooting his foot off?

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    18. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      Q: Want to know what a real secure OS is? I don't see many OS/2 virii around.

      A: A secure OS is one that is entirely disconnected from any other network. It is also, by the way, not very functional, but maybe no-one will notice that.
      OS/2 is 1/2 of an operating system.
      The plural of "virus" is "viruses" and NEVER "virii".

    19. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like that article especially for the following quote...
      "Since buyers are likely to have a lot of disposable income and not much sense, they make a great target for e-criminals."

    20. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by initdeep · · Score: 1

      using the same unsubstantiated "facts" that you do, I made just over 1.1 million last year selling a custom computer software program to a very targeted group of customers who have no other means of doing what my software does short of writing their own.

    21. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If your users are infecting themselves that much, you should probably do two things:

      1) Don't allow them to run with admin rights. In a corporate environment they should not be doing that anyway, so take this opportunity to fix it.
      2) Institute a "get infected, get re-imaged" policy. You really shouldn't trust a machine on your network that was infested by some of this stuff without a bare metal re-install anyway.

    22. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Watson+Ladd · · Score: 0

      By making it very obvious which end is dangerous. The fact that executables cannot effectively be sandboxed is a major limitation of the Unix based operating system. All the OS does is protect users from each other. We need to move to a model where the user is protected from code he hasn't written.

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    23. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Wingsy · · Score: 3, Informative

      I read the original blog from the original author, and he said, "Backdoor.Bifrose.AADYattempts to read the keys and serial numbers of the various software installed on the affected computer, while also logging the passwords to the victim's ICQ, Messenger, POP3 mail accounts, and protected storage."

      Nowhere does it imply that any information being sent from the windows machine to the iPad is being read or intercepted. It's just your typically hosed Windows box.

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    24. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1

      Hey, look everyone, it's the author of the iFart app!

    25. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, I run the Apple store. I collect 30% of your hard-earned iFart-developing-moxy doing pretty much fuck all.

    26. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Jorl17 · · Score: 1

      Gotta love myself.

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    27. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Sandbags · · Score: 1

      Yes, thank you... Anyone with iTunes should ALSO know, most especially Windows users who raised quite the stink about it, that ALL apple software is updated EXCLUSIVELY through the Apple Software Update Utility, and that Apple NEVER advertises updates through anything resembling SPAM mail.

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    28. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ugh...this is why I don't use Apple products...Quicktime is a security black hole, and iTunes is just as bad with it's horrible bonjor service... Apple likes to flame Windows for being buggy and insecure, but they need to sweep their own porch, because their software is horrible. Solution, I don't use Quicktime, and I don't use anything that needs iTunes. Apple was knocking Adobe about flash...I would choose flash any day of the week over quicktime.

    29. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Sandbags · · Score: 1

      Exactly. Its a Windows Trojan that happens to target iPad owners. Its no different than any other trojan mailware targeting users of windows that happen to own some other product, like all the "symbian viruses"

      The only concern is the iPad can in fact be access such, which I'm sure is a door apple will close quickly (and its likely a door firmware hackers have enjoyed using for some time to jailbreak the iPhone OS, so yet again that door will likely be closed, and apple will get blamed for blocking jailbreakers when for 3 revisions of the OS they chose to leave the known door open as there were no exploits, and they damned well knew how to close it...

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    30. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      How do you keep a moron with a shotgun from shooting his foot off?

      Hand the gun to a Vice President?

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    31. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by nine-times · · Score: 1

      Malicious modding. Some people throw a hissy fit when their FUD is debunked. It doesn't matter if the FUD is anti-Microsoft, anti-Apple, anti-Google, or anti-something-else. People who like the FUD don't like hearing that it's BS, and people who really love FUD are often petty and malicious.

    32. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by hrimhari · · Score: 1

      Looks like you lost the part where it says:

      An e-mail invitation to an iTunes update gets iPad users’ PCs into backdoor trouble.

      It's after the heading and before the text of the blog post. Usually called caption.

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    33. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      You mean like the sandboxing in Mac OS X?

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    34. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Wingsy · · Score: 1

      I know what it says. I was responding to the post by NatasRevol where he said the malware tries to identify info sent to an iPad. It doesn't say that in BitDefender's blog post.

      http://www.malwarecity.com/blog/ipad-users-targeted-by-backdoor-dissembled-as-itunes-update-803.html

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    35. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by spitzak · · Score: 1

      It sounds like the trojan is completely generic. It does not do anything about the iPad at all, it is designed to spy on the user's Windows use.

    36. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why modded Flamebait??

      Because Apple Haters are far more stupid and fanatical than even the worst Fanbois.

    37. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Excellent currently-relevant topical humor. Bravo. Got anything with "Y2K" in it?

    38. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by eleuthero · · Score: 1

      What about those of us who don't actually need a full computer to do our jobs. The simplicity of iWork for the ipad is sufficient for most of my needs. I haven't gotten an ipad because of the pdf annotation limitations on all currently available apps. Once someone puts that out I can ditch my computer completely (don't need to type much, mostly just read and respond with brief comments).

    39. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by GameboyRMH · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      If you're using Windows on a non-gaming machine, you're just uninformed, maybe ignorant at worst.

      If you own an iPad, it means you actively went out and handed over a stack of cash for a comically oversized iPhone that can't make calls and doesn't have a camera.

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    40. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Funnily enough, less=more is the apple fanboy mantra.

      (some actually think that removing features makes a product better, and adding features makes a product worse - seen in an iPhone vs. N900 review).

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    41. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by hrimhari · · Score: 1

      Oh right, sorry! No, according to the blog post, the iPad itself would not be involved at all. "iPad" there is just an excuse to lure the iPad owner to install a malware that affects the Windows PC like any other malware would.

      The misunderstanding comes from this difference:

      Blog post:

      (...) opens up a backdoor that allows unauthorized access to and control over the affected system. (...) attempts to read the keys and serial numbers of the various software installed on the affected computer (...)

      Article:

      (...) opens up a backdoor which could let the perpetrator gain unauthorised access to the device (...) tries to read the keys and serial numbers of the software installed on the device (...)

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    42. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      I made a billion dollars between my two jobs as male porn star and supercar test driver.

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    43. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by konohitowa · · Score: 1

      Why modded Flamebait??

      If I had to guess, I'd say it's because they called people who bought iPads "idiots."

    44. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by BasilBrush · · Score: 2, Informative

      (some actually think that removing features makes a product better, and adding features makes a product worse - seen in an iPhone vs. N900 review).

      Yes. People with good taste.

    45. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      This applies equally well to the Mac.

      No it doesn't. Virtually all malware targets windows. You have to be quoting a lot of decimal places before the malware targeting Macs is not 0%.

    46. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by BitterOak · · Score: 1

      This DOESN'T infect the iPad at all. It targets the idiots who bought an iPad but it is a WINDOWS virus.

      Uh. I wasn't aware the iPad even ran Windows.

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    47. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess this guy doesn't know that studies have shown that Windows users are the most gullible? I don't think the vector here is targeted at iPads, but rather the Windows users that have iPads. iPads were probably chosen just because it's the latest 'thing' and likely to be a success, while still being new enough that knowledge of it's update process wouldn't be common.

      http://techcrunch.com/2009/12/10/microsoft-users-gullible-advertising/

    48. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by knarf · · Score: 1

      People with good taste

      By using the concept 'good taste' you push Apple products even further into the realm of fashion. Taste is as subjective as it gets and to claim that preferring Apple products shows you have 'good taste' shows you don't judge Apple products by objective criteria but more by whether they appeal to your sense of fashion.

      Some people claim that those who wear clothes which are in fashion show they have 'good taste'. Nobody will claim those fashionable people wear factory-ripped jeans with holes and patches because those jeans are 'better' than a pair of un-worn, hole-free jeans. They are fashionable, the in-crowd wears them. If you want to be seen as part of the in-crowd you wear them as well. Not because they are better.

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    49. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet you cheered when Nokia left MMS from the N900, fanboy.

    50. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      Good taste is not a product of fashion.

      Taste is as subjective as it gets and to claim that preferring Apple products shows you have 'good taste'

      I didn't say anything about Apple products. The people I said had good taste are the ones described as "some actually think that removing features makes a product better, and adding features makes a product worse"

      We're talking about good design. That's far too big a topic to discuss enough to reach a conclusion in a /. post or two, but the concept that adding too many features makes a product worse is illustrated quite well by Homer's automobile. http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/%22The_Homer%22

    51. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Excellent currently-relevant topical humor. Bravo. Got anything with "Y2K" in it?

      Actually, Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize for preventing just that only half a year ago. Think about it. No, not Y2K, but Sarah the gun-totin' VP.

    52. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by mgblst · · Score: 1

      How did you instruct them? Did you send them an email, which they ignored with the other 20 emails they get every week? That is not a good way to instruct people. Do you have a training session whenever anyone new comes into the company? Do you send out fake email to try to trick people, redirecting them to a site that tells them off?

      Maybe you are the problem?

    53. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Meski · · Score: 1

      Mod this up, I think he's attacking bloatware, (aka Office) and its tendency to add features (and rearrange the UI) with every release.

    54. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Meski · · Score: 1

      Well they are. Jailbreak one and put Android on it, and you'll be close to a working product.

    55. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by konohitowa · · Score: 1

      Well they are. Jailbreak one and put Android on it, and you'll be close to a working product.

      1. Start with a working product.
      2. Jailbreak and install Android.
      3. Be close to a working product (this step is traditionally supposed to be PROFIT!!!)

      Who are the idiots again?

    56. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Meski · · Score: 1

      Step 1 - I'd debate that in this iteration that the iPad has a working OS. It's akin to MSDOS 1.0

    57. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by 4phun · · Score: 1

      I concur. Article is incorrect and Slashdot just regurgitated it. At least the blog post by the original author is correct. A Windows trojan - nothing else.

      /. got it wrong also in that the Trojan targeted anyone who used the windows version of iTunes, not an iPad. I am saddened that many in their hatred of all things Apple repeat nonsense instead of applying critical thinking. BTW iTunes was updated Tuesday April 27 to iTunes 9.1.1 I strongly recommend an iPad to families and others trying to avoid most of the tremendous dangers of being connected via the Internet. Isn't there always a tremendous advantage to real as well as virtual walled gardens when it comes to safety? Those who are well off will confirm that any day.

    58. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      No, I was upset, also about the lack of a digital compass. Luckily there's a free 3rd-party app for MMS (although I don't really use it myself).

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    59. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Well, you have fun with your "good taste," I'll enjoy my "tasteless" functionality.

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    60. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by Phoghat · · Score: 1
      FTFA

      "Malware scammers are trying to trick early iPad buyers into installing backdoor software on Windows machines, according to a security firm."

      Sometimes IT ACTUALLY PAYS TO RTFA

      you might learn something

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    61. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by richy+freeway · · Score: 1

      You're reading the wrong article. Your quote comes from the Reg article I linked to. In the article from the summary, it's wrong.

      Nice try though.

    62. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      Well, you have fun with your "good taste," I'll enjoy my "tasteless" functionality.

      But your a Linux user aren't you? That of course has has both far worse UI design AND less functionality than OS X. I mean the Windows USERS could at least make a claim for more functionality. But you can't.

    63. Re:Wrong wrong wrong... by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Maybe less functionality than OSX out of the box, but it can meet or exceed the functionality of OSX if required, and it can interoperate with other apps on other OSes much more easily. And it's free and not tied to any specific hardware (yeah I know you can jump through hoops and break EULAs to install OSX on non-Apple hardware, whooptie doo, I can recompile Linux for different CPU architectures if I need to.)

      Also I hope you aren't suggesting Windows has more out-of-the-box functionality than Linux. Even the more spartan Linux distros come with a better selection of apps than Windows these days.

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  2. Write misleading headlines much.. by Wovel · · Score: 0

    Yes the headline is true, but it is certainly misleading.

    1. Re:Write misleading headlines much.. by richy+freeway · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not just the headline, it's the summary and the article too!

    2. Re:Write misleading headlines much.. by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Reminds me of that line from "Absence of Malice" that "everything they said was accurate but none of it was true".

    3. Re:Write misleading headlines much.. by someone1234 · · Score: 0

      How is it true, when the malware doesn't ever touch iPad, and works without an iPad.

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    4. Re:Write misleading headlines much.. by Wovel · · Score: 0

      Your right :) I saw the story early somewhere else and did not even bother to read the summary after the headline that implied there is a backdoor into ipads.

    5. Re:Write misleading headlines much.. by Wovel · · Score: 0

      Well it kind of targets iPad users on Windows. I was being generous :)

    6. Re:Write misleading headlines much.. by Thanshin · · Score: 0

      It's not just the headline, it's the summary and the article too!

      So, for all we know, this could be a story about the impending alien invasion.

    7. Re:Write misleading headlines much.. by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1, Funny

      It targets the iPad, it's just a really bad shot and always ends up hitting the Windows box...

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    8. Re:Write misleading headlines much.. by shadowrat · · Score: 2, Informative

      the con targets iPad users. the software targets windows.

    9. Re:Write misleading headlines much.. by quadelirus · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not just the summary. The article itself is misleading (it doesn't once mention that the virus effects Windows PCs and not iPads). This one: http://www.tgdaily.com/mobility-features/49519-nefarious-ipad-virus-masquerades-as-itunes-update is slightly better, as it doesn't fail to mention the fact that Windows PCs are being infected and not iPads. The iPad is only the phishing-hook to get a user to click the link (something like: you need to update your iTunes for your new iPad, click here to do so...)

    10. Re:Write misleading headlines much.. by quadelirus · · Score: 1

      Oh, sorry richy freeway, just saw that you said "and the article." It's too early in the morning.

    11. Re:Write misleading headlines much.. by piripiri · · Score: 1

      It's not just the headline, it's the summary and the article too!

      You must be new here.

    12. Re:Write misleading headlines much.. by richy+freeway · · Score: 1

      Nicely expanded upon anyway. :)

    13. Re:Write misleading headlines much.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Back door? Hell, there isn't even a front door into iPads!

    14. Re:Write misleading headlines much.. by Kitkoan · · Score: 1

      Your right :) I saw the story early somewhere else and did not even bother to read the summary after the headline that implied there is a backdoor into ipads.

      It does have a back door, its build in the OS from Steve Jobs since its running a spin off of the iPhone's OS. 1 2

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  3. I don't own an iPod/iPhone/iPad, please help by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 1

    Is it common for software to announce updates via email? Given that the device would presumably have a net connection, any legit updates ought to be pushed out through the iTunes store.

    1. Re:I don't own an iPod/iPhone/iPad, please help by jaavaaguru · · Score: 1

      Operating system updates are pushed out through iTunes when the phone/iPod is docked. Other app updates are pushed out OTA. There is no e-mail involved. I suspect the iPhone platform is not the only one that has users receiving such e-mails.

  4. Re:exactly why... by lord_rotorooter · · Score: 5, Informative

    This does not actually affect the IPad but rather is an attack to get Windows users to install an "update" for ITunes. The "update" is malware for Windows and is targeted at people who own an IPad and sync it with Windows.

  5. Not quite..... by quiet_guy · · Score: 1

    Great quote from the UK article: "Since buyers are likely to have a lot of disposable income and not much sense...." TFA is wrong - malware is aimed at the Winbloz boxen, by offering a download of a "new iTunes" program. Macs and iPads are not impacted.

    1. Re:Not quite..... by daveime · · Score: 1

      The plural of box is boxes ... please stop trying so hard to sound smarter than you are.

    2. Re:Not quite..... by mgblst · · Score: 1

      So people who do not have much sense get an iPad and a windows machine? Because this doesn't affect people who are running Mac OS?

      So you are suggesting that all people with iPads/iPhones/iPods should get rid of their virus-ridden Windows box?

  6. Re:exactly why... by TheKidWho · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes well, this virus is infecting a Windows PC, so much for that.

  7. Clarification... by clone53421 · · Score: 3, Informative

    An e-mail, purporting to be from Apple, informs people that their iPad needs to be updated. Steps given for updating your iPad:

    1) Download an iTunes update for Windows (itunes.exe) and install;
    2) Connect your iPad to the Windows computer;
    3) Select iPad in the iTunes sidebar;
    4) Click “Check for update” then “Update” to finish updating your iPad’s software.

    Note that there’s no legitimate reason that you’d ever need to connect the iPad to a second computer to update it. It has its own internet connection.

    Needless to say, your Windows computer will be infected with the virus if you execute the itunes.exe that you were instructed to download and install. It appears that your iPad will be none the worse for having an idiot for an owner.

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    1. Re:Clarification... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >>Note that there’s no legitimate reason that you’d ever need to connect the iPad to a second computer to update it. It has its own internet connection.

      Oh really? as its wifi only, it does NOT ALWAYS have an internet connection, and the one on the computer may not be sharable or connected to a wifi router. Bzzzzzzzzzt U R WRONG

  8. Disappointed in /. by RemoWilliams84 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm disappointed that there have been no Apple User/Backdoor jokes in this story yet. I'll check back in an hour. Don't kill my faith in /.

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    1. Re:Disappointed in /. by courteaudotbiz · · Score: 1, Troll

      As this kind of jokes about Apple users is getting moderated "troll", "overrated" or "flamebait" by all those Apple-Fanboy-Slashdotters, no one is willing to get his karma downgraded for something that's not worth talking about: Apple.

    2. Re:Disappointed in /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple users like it up the butt; they love the buttsecks.

      Happy now?

    3. Re:Disappointed in /. by stifler9999 · · Score: 1

      Now I know why my post of a Mac Book user, using it as an iPad stand got ignored. (http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/ipadstandfail.jpg) I dont care about karma, its my choice to say and theirs to ignore. The iPad is still a stupid product that fits right into the market of "generally useless and totally unnecessary", especially the 3G version. *imagines someone holding iPad to their ear, talking to their mum - "yes mum, I'll vacuum my room (basement) tonight, gotta go my HD Hot Gurlz app has just finished downloading...."

    4. Re:Disappointed in /. by iceborer · · Score: 2, Funny

      This scheme has no chance of success. No self-respecting Apple user would allow anything in their backdoor that didn't come dressed in a turtleneck and jeans.

    5. Re:Disappointed in /. by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 1

      no one is willing to get his karma downgraded for something that's not worth talking about: Apple.

      Not worth talking about and yet, here you are reading an Apple thread and taking the time to comment on it.

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    6. Re:Disappointed in /. by RemoWilliams84 · · Score: 1

      Thank you, sir. I applaud your efforts and admire your wit.

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    7. Re:Disappointed in /. by galego · · Score: 1

      But yet a malformed article (title and content), one which inappropriately attributes a windows backdoor (targeting iPad owners) attack as being aimed at the iPad itself, *did* get approved/promoted as if it were an Apple iPad Security Vulnerability. The said Apple-Fanboy-Slashdotters must be asleep or have also been back-doored or abducted, eh?

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    8. Re:Disappointed in /. by Wingsy · · Score: 1

      One day when all your misconceptions have been cleared away, I'm sure your light will come on.
      br? Step one: The iPad's 3G connection is not for voice. It's data. Only data.

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    9. Re:Disappointed in /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey troll. Does sitting around making fun of other people make you feel better about your pathetic little life?

    10. Re:Disappointed in /. by courteaudotbiz · · Score: 1

      No, I take time to read jokes about it! :-)

      But I don't hate Apple. I have an iPod, have had a Mac Mini (Core Solo 1st generation), but what I hate is the religion around Apple products. And like any religion, it's not worth talking about it, or should I say, debating it, since the reasons for believing in it are totally irrational.

      And I guess that some Apple-Fanboy-Slashdotters have had their modpoints yesterday, they spent it on me (GP post), which proves my point. They have a very poor sense of humour.

    11. Re:Disappointed in /. by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 1

      I don't hate Apple [...] but what I hate is the religion around Apple products.

      I understand that. I have computers running OS X, Windows XP and a couple of different flavors of Linux. All of these operating systems have their fanboys but to me, they're just tools. My Mac is my day-to-day computer, the one I use the most, and I don't think Apple is any more evil than any other large corporation but that doesn't mean I won't jump on them when I think they've screwed up.

      And I guess that some Apple-Fanboy-Slashdotters have had their modpoints yesterday, they spent it on me (GP post), which proves my point. They have a very poor sense of humour.

      Apple fanboys are not the only ones. Go check my recent posting history and you'll see how the anti-Apple crowd reacts to even the most rational posts that happen to challenge their world view.

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  9. Updates *are* done over USB by danaris · · Score: 4, Informative

    Note that there’s no legitimate reason that you’d ever need to connect the iPad to a second computer to update it. It has its own internet connection.

    Now, I don't have an iPad, so I don't know how they're updated, but the iPhone and iPod touch, which also have their own internet connections, get software updates through iTunes, over USB.

    This is how it's always been done.

    Dan Aris

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    1. Re:Updates *are* done over USB by clone53421 · · Score: 0

      Odd. Well, thanks for the correction.

      Any idea why it’s done this way? The iPod Touch I could understand since it doesn’t necessarily have an internet connection, but the iPhone has its own dedicated connection...

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    2. Re:Updates *are* done over USB by tgd · · Score: 2, Informative

      Why is simple -- it replaces the firmware, by booting the phone into a mode where the firmware can be updated via USB (and the OS isn't running).

      You can't easily upgrade an OS out from under itself.

    3. Re:Updates *are* done over USB by joshtimmons · · Score: 0

      Actually, all of the devices in the platform do allow app upgrades over their own connection. You *can* use iTunes and USB, but apps 10MB or you don't have carrier data you can upgrade them over wifi. The app store icon will even notify you when there are upgrades available.

    4. Re:Updates *are* done over USB by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      You can't easily upgrade an OS out from under itself.

      The standalone version of OSX manages it. I don’t see why the dumbed-down version on the iPad can’t.

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    5. Re:Updates *are* done over USB by Idaho · · Score: 1

      You can't easily upgrade an OS out from under itself.

      Uhm, what? Linux distributions do this all the time.

      (However, they are not usually installed in firmware, I'll admit).

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    6. Re:Updates *are* done over USB by Brandee07 · · Score: 2, Informative

      A few points:

      -AT&T doesn't like downloads over their network larger than 10MB in size. If you buy an app larger than that, it'll tell you to find a WiFi connection and try again. Some of the previous iPhone software updates have been a few hundred megabytes - try downloading that over 3G in a reasonable amount of time.

      -Plugging in to a computer before updating the software forces the user to make a backup. The otherwise stand-alone nature of the iPhone makes it rare for me to plug my phone in to my computer, so updates are just about the only time I actually do back up my phone.

    7. Re:Updates *are* done over USB by danaris · · Score: 1

      You can't easily upgrade an OS out from under itself.

      The standalone version of OSX manages it. I don’t see why the dumbed-down version on the iPad can’t.

      I don't know if there are specific technical reasons for it, but it seems to me that since

      1. You already know that the person with an iPad has another computer, and
      2. You know they have iTunes (since it's required for setting it up in the first place),
      3. It makes it easier to update the firmware/OS when you have that as your backup rather than having to bootstrap yourself.

      Dan Aris

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    8. Re:Updates *are* done over USB by BarryJacobsen · · Score: 1

      You can't easily upgrade an OS out from under itself.

      The standalone version of OSX manages it. I don’t see why the dumbed-down version on the iPad can’t.

      Because standalone versions of OS X aren't running from firmware.

    9. Re:Updates *are* done over USB by Me!+Me!+42 · · Score: 1

      "The iPod Touch I could understand since it doesn’t necessarily have an internet connection, but the iPhone has its own dedicated connection..."
      Actually both the iPad and iPodtouch have Wifi (and Bluetooth) I assume that is what you mean by"internet connection." The 3G version of the iPad will not be shipping for another week or so.
      As far as why?
      In normal use, when docked, theses devices have access to iTunes for syncing content, metadata, etc., and they can recharge their batteries. That goes for an update too, but in addition its easier if the OS does not have to run and there is the extra security of a direct power supply—no running out of power in the middle of the update.

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    10. Re:Updates *are* done over USB by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 1

      >> You can't easily upgrade an OS out from under itself.

      WTF? Then OTA updates for Android and RIM must be some ground-breaking innovations!!

    11. Re:Updates *are* done over USB by tgd · · Score: 1

      I'm sure you can spend five minutes on Google to educate yourself on the difference ...

    12. Re:Updates *are* done over USB by clone53421 · · Score: 1
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    13. Re:Updates *are* done over USB by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 1

      Please enlighten me my lord, because I have simply failed at that.

    14. Re:Updates *are* done over USB by dissy · · Score: 1

      You can't easily upgrade an OS out from under itself.

      You must not be a Debian user ;}

      System installed as Debian potato (v2.2) and currently running the almost newest lenny (5.0) through 4 major version releases without any reinstall.

      After etch (v4.0) I think it was, you can even upgrade your kernel while it is running, with no reboots.

      Not to mention this is something even Debian only started about a decade ago, and has been standard practice in the mini and main frame worlds, and almost as long of a practice in the embedded controller world (Which until recently, pretty much all cell phones fell into)

      If that isn't considered upgrading an OS from under itself, I don't know what is.

    15. Re:Updates *are* done over USB by mgblst · · Score: 1

      The obvious reason is that the iPhone/iPad/iPod runs on batteries, and if the OS is updating itself, then runs out of batteries, you are screwed.

      This is obvious, to anyone with a technical background.

    16. Re:Updates *are* done over USB by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 1

      And the award goes to..... mgblst.......... who has just proved none of the Linux distros, none of the Android phones or RIM phones has ever used a a battery. It seems only Apple products use batteries!

    17. Re:Updates *are* done over USB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure you can. Have the device save the new firmware onto the filesystem. Have the device reboot itself. Have the device's bootloader check for new firmware before booting and if the firmware file saved to the filesystem is newer than the firmware installed, then execute firmware update code. It's hardly rocket surgery, so I'm sure Apple's engineers/programmers could manage this or something similar if not better, but it's all part of the iDevice-iTunes lock-in factor.

  10. Re:exactly why... by TheKidWho · · Score: 1, Informative

    The target isn't the iPad, it's the windows box.

  11. Re:exactly why... by d3ac0n · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you want to get really pedantic, the target isn't even the Windows box. It's the user's information and the profits that can be gleaned either directly or indirectly from aggregating such information from millions of such users.

    I'm guessing that the rationale behind this is that people who snap up the iPad are trend-following sheep with more money than sense who are "easy marks" and thus more likely to fall for a "social engineering" attack such as this one.

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  12. Its a good thing I don't have an iPad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But, I do have a jailbroken iPhone. I guess there is a vulnerability with having a jailbroken device too. Basically, I'm trusting the developers who made this "patch" to be applied to my iPhone OS. They could have put *anything* in there: a backdoor, logging and transmitting my passwords, etc. Any time you modify your device with non-authentic software (non-Apple), you are taking a risk. And WHY would somebody trust a web-browser pop-up about upgrading their iTunes??? Only if you open iTunes and it says there's a new version available should you download it! hmmmmmm

    1. Re:Its a good thing I don't have an iPad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That and the fact that any time a Mac user sees a prompt for the Admin password, it raises alarms. Most software is in the User space and doesn't require admin rights, or even access outside of the Users home directory. A prompt for a password is rare except when installing MS Software ;)

  13. The OS is not an app. by danaris · · Score: 1

    Actually, all of the devices in the platform do allow app upgrades over their own connection. You *can* use iTunes and USB, but apps 10MB or you don't have carrier data you can upgrade them over wifi. The app store icon will even notify you when there are upgrades available.

    Yes, for apps. Not for the OS itself, which is what was being talked about.

    Dan Aris

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  14. Re:exactly why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With only about a million sold so far, it's not economically feasible to write viruses/trojans for ipads, yet. There are botnets that have grown larger than 1 million, and when you distribute something like this, you can't count on everyone getting infected. Once they sell 5 times more, I bet we will start seeing a few viruses that actually infect the ipad.

  15. Clone likes libelling others online at slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "But basically, I support the law http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1629374&cid=31995628" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday April 27, @02:40AM (#31995628)

    I see your comment quoted above there Clone, as well as you signature Clone in your attempt to libel others here on slashdot. So, isn't Jeremy Reimer the guy who had parts of his website removed for libelling APK by his hosting provider and Reimer was caught email harassing APK by his ISP, Shaw of Canada, when Shaw put Reimer on a tracking ticket for it (which Reimer promptly ceased his email harassment of APK once he was aware of that happening), and arstechnica strangely no longer puts up articles by the blatantly unqualified Jeremy Reimer?

    Jeremy Reimer and his friends Jay Little also had their websites removed entirely from CrystalTech.com and from petitiononline.com also, because of their making death threats to APK just because APK showed that Exchange Server stalls due to memory fragmentation are stopped when a memory optimization program is used (microsoft's own called clearmem.exe) after Jay Little, whom Jeremy Reimer brought in because Reimer doesn't even have a degree in CSC or CIS related fields (not even an A+ cert, much less an MCSE or the like to his credit, much less actual degrees) or years to decades of professional hands-on experience in the trenches doing computer work, failed in stating verbatim "I am an Exchange Expert" and when Jay Little saw what APK put up, he tried to harass APK by nitpicking his posts at NTCompatible.com also, where Little stalked APK there and failed on issues regarding ramdisks/ssd and also Windows own error codes/crash codes which got Jay Little kicked from NTCompatible.com as it did on Channel 9 at Microsoft also? Seems that was what happened at Windows IT Pro here http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/41095/the-memory-optimization-hoax.html which anyone can read.

    So much for your libelling others Clone. You can't even get that right and you certainly like lies and libel, which are against the law in the USA and in other nations also.

    Clone, I also note that you also called APK, the person you refer to in your signature here, a "spyware maker" http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31736454 , but he noted that Nir Sofer and Dr. Mark Russinovich have also had many of their wares classified falsely as spywares too, and that he took CA's 21 point test and his app did not violate a single point of their test and they downrated his app to "zero threat levels" because of this. APK also put up the very first guide to securing Windows back in 1998 which was highly rated at Neowin in 2001 and grew into the most viewed and most effective guide for securing Windows NT Operating Systems out there currently at 350,000 views strong and being made a sticky pinned thread, an essential guide, or being the most viewed and being usually rated 5 of 5 stars by readers of his security guide for Windows such as here http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=f94b12f3d43b3b9446bed90155910842&showtopic=2662 . At 350,000 views strong and with great feedback too, your calling him that shows you do anything but support the law, and regularly break it with libel on your part towards others clone.

    Clone, You are a scumbag libelling little weasel clone, and now everyone will know how much so, after reading this reply. Just because you're a loser that doesn't have a job and because you've never done a thing in your life that's of service to others, doesn't give you the right to libel others who have, clone.

  16. Yes but... by vikingpower · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    ...does it blend ?

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  17. Re:exactly why... by NatasRevol · · Score: 1
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  18. MacBook Air by tepples · · Score: 1

    Mac OS X on a MacBook Air is running from flash memory, just like iPhone OS on an iPad. What exactly did you mean by "running from firmware"?

  19. no reason to need a second computer? by SuperBanana · · Score: 1

    Note that there's no legitimate reason that you'd ever need to connect the iPad to a second computer to update it. It has its own internet connection.

    Er, just like my iPhone? Which requires being connected to a second computer to update it?

  20. Wow. by deafNewt · · Score: 1

    I enjoy skulking here because the community is damn witty and I am often entertained and informed by what I read, but the editing of stories for any basis in fact has gone from inept to transparent troll-baiting and flame-generating. We all know some of the editors are idiots, but, come on Taco, I know you can do better.

  21. You guys are grasping at straws now. by Brannon · · Score: 1

    This is a virus that targets Windows and somehow it provides proof that people who buy the iPad are "trend following sheep"?

    In what way does this have anything to do with the iPad? the fact that it can be used to receive email?

    Fucking morons.

    1. Re:You guys are grasping at straws now. by d3ac0n · · Score: 1

      Brannon, I think you may have misunderstood.

      I was attempting to describe the rationale behind attempting a social engineering attack against iPad/iTunes users, not to make a general statement on my opinion of iPad or iTunes users. Please note that I did not say that I agreed with the rationale. (Although I could have been clearer on that point I suppose.)

      All that aside though, none of this changes the fact that both the /. article AND TFA both have poor and incorrect premises and summaries.

      Unless, of course, you want to consider the end-user as the ultimate "back-door" hack into any device. Which might not be all that far off from reality after all...

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  22. How about a jailbreak virus by Stonent1 · · Score: 1

    What if someone wrote a virus that automatically jailbroke any apple device connected to iTunes and installed an alternate way of putting apps on the device?

    1. Re:How about a jailbreak virus by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      The original iPhone jailbreak was via visiting a particular webpage in mobile safari.

  23. backdoor? by ZenDragon · · Score: 1

    The title of the article should read, "iPad owners take it in the backdoor!" haha

  24. Virus? by CODiNE · · Score: 1

    You have to download the trojan named itunes.exe and run it.

    This is a "virus" now? What do you call stuff that spreads itself without user intervention... trojans?

    How about autorun infections from USB keys... phishing?

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  26. I smell a rotten apple by FearKratos · · Score: 0, Troll

    I guess its time to change that dirty pad. It was only a matter of time before someone tried to hack/infect the ipad on a grand scale, I'd like to see how Steve Jobs counters this....Introducing the iVagisil.

  27. Re:exactly why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The attack vector is through the iPad in the same way a malware payload could be delivered through a Flash exploit.

  28. Patch Name by lbmouse · · Score: 1

    I propose the name of the patch to cover this hole be named tamPod.

  29. Oops by nawcom · · Score: 1

    Either kdawson didn't feel like logging in to post this article as himself, or CmdrTaco isn't looking into stories. Too bad.

  30. Re:Clone likes libelling others online at slashdot by crashumbc · · Score: 1

    wth? AC nerd rage much? you felt the need to drag another thread into this one?

  31. Hey Rob by Fnord666 · · Score: 1

    You left your terminal logged in and kdawson has been posting stories under your ID again.

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  32. Clone likes libelling others on slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "But basically, I support the law http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1629374&cid=31995628" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday April 27, @02:40AM (#31995628)

    I see your comment quoted above there Clone, as well as you signature Clone in your attempt to libel others here on slashdot. So, isn't Jeremy Reimer the guy who had parts of his website removed for libelling APK by his hosting provider and Reimer was caught email harassing APK by his ISP, Shaw of Canada, when Shaw put Reimer on a tracking ticket for it (which Reimer promptly ceased his email harassment of APK once he was aware of that happening), and arstechnica strangely no longer puts up articles by the blatantly unqualified Jeremy Reimer?

    Jeremy Reimer and his friends Jay Little also had their websites removed entirely from CrystalTech.com and from petitiononline.com also, because of their making death threats to APK just because APK showed that Exchange Server stalls due to memory fragmentation are stopped when a memory optimization program is used (microsoft's own called clearmem.exe) after Jay Little, whom Jeremy Reimer brought in because Reimer doesn't even have a degree in CSC or CIS related fields (not even an A+ cert, much less an MCSE or the like to his credit, much less actual degrees) or years to decades of professional hands-on experience in the trenches doing computer work, failed in stating verbatim "I am an Exchange Expert" and when Jay Little saw what APK put up, he tried to harass APK by nitpicking his posts at NTCompatible.com also, where Little stalked APK there and failed on issues regarding ramdisks/ssd and also Windows own error codes/crash codes which got Jay Little kicked from NTCompatible.com as it did on Channel 9 at Microsoft also? Seems that was what happened at Windows IT Pro here http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/41095/the-memory-optimization-hoax.html which anyone can read.

    So much for your libelling others Clone. You can't even get that right and you certainly like lies and libel, which are against the law in the USA and in other nations also.

    Clone, I also note that you also called APK, the person you refer to in your signature here, a "spyware maker" http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31736454 , but he noted that Nir Sofer and Dr. Mark Russinovich have also had many of their wares classified falsely as spywares too, and that he took CA's 21 point test and his app did not violate a single point of their test and they downrated his app to "zero threat levels" because of this. APK also put up the very first guide to securing Windows back in 1998 which was highly rated at Neowin in 2001 and grew into the most viewed and most effective guide for securing Windows NT Operating Systems out there currently at 350,000 views strong and being made a sticky pinned thread, an essential guide, or being the most viewed and being usually rated 5 of 5 stars by readers of his security guide for Windows such as here http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=f94b12f3d43b3b9446bed90155910842&showtopic=2662 . At 350,000 views strong and with great feedback too, your calling him that shows you do anything but support the law, and regularly break it with libel on your part towards others clone.

    Clone, You are a scumbag libelling little weasel clone, and now everyone will know how much so, after reading this reply. Just because you're a loser that doesn't have a job and because you've never done a thing in your life that's of service to others, doesn't give you the right to libel others who have, clone.

  33. Poor Clone lost another debate & libels the wi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject above, and see how Clone tried to libel others here on this website via his signature and was proven wrong here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1632188&cid=31999288 .

    Clone53421 is nothing more than a little out of work bum who can't get a job because he wastes his life on slashdot here libelling others (which is why he won't get a job, because his kind do this rampantly, and this is why suits against them are not worth it - nothing to be had in suing a "ne'er do well" like Clone53421 is why).

    Why is Clone libelling apk? Ok:

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    http://secunia.com/advisories/39175/

    Release Date 2010-04-02
    Last Update 2010-04-06

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    Clone lost his behind in a debate with apk on FireFox http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/23/0415208/Germany-Warns-Against-Using-Firefox (when Germany warned vs. its usage, as they had for IE previous to that) here, regarding FireFox 3.6, which then forced a reissue of FireFox 3.6.2 (not 2.6.2 as Clone erroneously noted it there as also), but during the timeframe of that debate (03/23/2010 - 04/05/2010)?

    LOL: FireFox turned up YET ANOTHER SECURITY BUG in their DOM during that debate's timeframe (see between dashed lines above), which forced an issuance of FireFox 3.6.3 on 04/06/2010!

    Also, when that news of a NEW FIREFOX BUG came out?

    Well - Slashdot's moderators "strangely closed that thread on Germany early" (NOT) in less than 2 weeks...

    This libel of apk only showed Clone's poor defense of FireFox (inclusive of citing very old 3-5 versions out of date data on Opera bugs no less, version 9.52 & 10.52 just released today no less in final form) as erroneous, and that Clone is a sore loser.

    Clone, face it: Opera's FASTER than FireFox in HTML parse & process work, plus javascript work too, and Opera shows less bugs over time than FireFox does, consistently no less... whether or not you can handle that or not, doesn't matter - you LOSE, as per usual.

    All the libelling of others online will not help you, once people see how you react in your "geek angst" when you lose poorly due to bogus libelling of others on this website, which makes you appear in your true nature of being a libellous online scumbag weasel.

  34. Re:exactly why... by daveime · · Score: 1

    Until Jobsy releases version 4, no virus is gonna run (in the background anyway).

    Of course the iPod/iPad/iPhone is more secure ... you can't do fuck-all with it without permission from Apple headquarters ... and even then any virus must be written in Objective-C to conform to Steve's code "laws".

  35. Re:exactly why... by Sandbags · · Score: 1

    More to the point, the virus never TOUCHES the iPad, or even it;s files on the Windows machine. The iTunes trojan only affects AIM, Messenger, and other application software on the PC, and attempts to steal PC passwords, it;s only using the iPad in name as a method of social engineering, and its technically not even infecting iTunes!

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  36. Clone you are a disgrace to this site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I read what is written here and even checked out the urls posted, and it all checks out as straight as to what was said here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1632810&cid=32001080 and here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1632810&cid=32001124 as you attempted to libel someone here that's done more than you ever will in the art and science of computing. Why you did so to that ac apk was outrageous and seeing you shot down for it is very funny. All just because you were shown as being wrong on Firefox being not only slower than Opera, but also more security problem prone, only shows you are what was said of you, and that you are an online libelling scumbag.

  37. Re:exactly why... by Kitkoan · · Score: 1

    Until Jobsy releases version 4, no virus is gonna run (in the background anyway).

    Of course the iPod/iPad/iPhone is more secure ... you can't do fuck-all with it without permission from Apple headquarters ... and even then any virus must be written in Objective-C to conform to Steve's code "laws".

    And so the myth continues. Because the iPhone/iPad is locked down then it must be secure. Thing is, it wasn't secure and it was because of that lock that people couldn't secure it. It was also the only smartphone that didn't get patched for it even though Apple had been warned for weeks before to patch it and it took 48 hours after it went public to patch. People complained, most didn't know why they had to restore their iPhones though because they didn't even need to touch anything. In the end, iPhone users were hacked and it was because of it being locked down. (If you had jail broken it, you could have prevented it from happening)

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  38. Title and summary are misleading by KharmaWidow · · Score: 1

    The vulnerable user demographic are *Windows users* of the iPad, not iPad users in general.

    1. Re:Title and summary are misleading by pandrijeczko · · Score: 1

      Be careful taking Steve Job's manhood so deep into your mouth - you may choke!

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    2. Re:Title and summary are misleading by KharmaWidow · · Score: 1

      Was this comment necessary? Grow up.

  39. Re:exactly why... by Wingsy · · Score: 1

    No, it's not. You're remedial reading classes start at 7pm tonight. Don't be late.

    --
    If I didn't have absolutely NOTHING to do, I wouldn't be here.
  40. well, kind of right, too by pydev · · Score: 0, Troll

    The malware installs modified firmware that opens up a backdoor on the iPad itself.

    And the reason this backdoor exists is because iPad doesn't do OTA firmware updates. This can't happen on many Android or Symbian devices because those do OTA updates from a known server and don't require any desktop software at all.

  41. Re:Poor Clone lost another debate & libels the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jesus H Christ. Take a pill. Right now you're doing more to undermine your reputation than anything anyone else has posted about you.

  42. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    bah... Slashdot, wtf... and i was getting all happy and excited of virus targeting ipads.... well I hope this come true someday.... screw Jobs....

  43. Re:exactly why... by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

    >>Of course the iPod/iPad/iPhone is more secure ... you can't do fuck-all with it without permission from Apple headquarters ... and even then any virus must be written in Objective-C to conform to Steve's code "laws".
    And so the myth continues. Because the iPhone/iPad is locked down then it must be secure.

    Note the removal of the word "more" by the parent poster. Of course the GP is right. The iPhone/iPod/iPad is most certainly more secure due to it's locked down nature. But that doesn't mean completely secure.

    As to the example exploit, one SMS defect can cause a denial of service for 2 seconds per SMS. Given that SMSs have to be paid for, that's going to cost the attacker a lot of money. The other crashes the coms stack, such that the GSM connection is lost and can only be regained by rebooting the phone. Neither one can cause any permanent change to an iPhone of any sort. Nor can they be used to steal information. And a patch was issued within days of the vulnerability being discovered.

    Thats the WORST case you can find. You can find far worse exploits for open systems. Which rather supports the GPs case.

  44. Re:exactly why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you miss this part of your linked article?

    "Meanwhile, a bug in the code written by HTC that controls the user interface on Windows Mobile devices could also be exploited via the SMS messages to make it so there are no buttons to push so the phone can't be used, said Miller.
    For the attack to work, an attacker must send hundreds of SMS control messages, which are different from regular SMS messages, according to Miller. Only the initial SMS may be seen, he said.
    The researchers will demonstrate the attack on an Android phone and an iPhone during their presentation on Thursday."

  45. Proof Crapple/Steve Blowjobs is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    selling crappy, overpriced products to the fudgepacking, twinkie sucking fagots out there. Sounds very similar to the communist, twinkie sucking fagot RMS Titanic (AKA Richard Stallman)

    GO AHEAD FUCKING FLAME AWAY
    OR WASTE YOUR GODDAMNED
    MOD POINTS FUCKTARDED SHITDOT SHEEPLE OR BETTER
    YET GO SLIT YOUR FUCKING WRISTS
    FUCKTARDED SHITDOT SHEEPLE

  46. Clone posts as ac in reply, lol, fools no one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject line above, and realize you're not fooling anyone here clone. You blew it on FireFox and tried to libel someone that's actually done a few things of good note in this science of computing and now you have to eat some crow for your crap is all. Get over it, you had it coming you libellous fool.

    1. Re:Clone posts as ac in reply, lol, fools no one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not clone, and it doesn't really matter: read what you're writing, and think about how other, sane, people are seeing it. Posting the same hyperbole over and over again, stalking a particular victim. Do you really think you're actually damaging Clone's reputation? Because I assure you, the impression I'm getting is that his attacker is nuts, especially given your allegations against him are... well, barely comprehensible.

      Again, read both what you're doing, and what you're writing. If you have a legitimate beef, it's getting lost in a pile of bizarre unsubstantiated insults posted stalker-style.

  47. Ah, clone responds under his alternate reg'd acct by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject above. You're not fooling anyone with your alternate registered user account here clone53421. We know how that's done so you can mod yourself up with it and also defend your "clone53421" account using this one. Do you think you're fooling anyone clone?

  48. Why's Clone libelling others here? Geek Angst! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject above, and see how Clone tried to libel others here on this website via his signature and was proven wrong here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1632188&cid=31999288 .

    Funny how that shut clone53421, eh?

    Clone53421 is nothing more than a little out of work bum who can't get a job because he wastes his life on slashdot here libelling others (which is why he won't get a job, because his kind do this rampantly, and this is why suits against them are not worth it - nothing to be had in suing a "ne'er do well" like Clone53421 is why).

    Why is Clone libelling apk? Ok:

    ----

    Mozilla Firefox DOM Node Moving Use-After-Free Vulnerability:

    http://secunia.com/advisories/39175/

    Release Date 2010-04-02
    Last Update 2010-04-06

    ----

    Clone lost his behind in a debate with apk on FireFox http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/23/0415208/Germany-Warns-Against-Using-Firefox (when Germany warned vs. its usage, as they had for IE previous to that) here, regarding FireFox 3.6, which then forced a reissue of FireFox 3.6.2 (not 2.6.2 as Clone erroneously noted it there as also), but during the timeframe of that debate (03/23/2010 - 04/05/2010)?

    LOL: FireFox turned up YET ANOTHER SECURITY BUG in their DOM during that debate's timeframe (see between dashed lines above), which forced an issuance of FireFox 3.6.3 on 04/06/2010!

    Also, when that news of a NEW FIREFOX BUG came out?

    Well - Slashdot's moderators "strangely closed that thread on Germany early" (NOT) in less than 2 weeks...

    This libel of apk only showed Clone's poor defense of FireFox (inclusive of citing very old 3-5 versions out of date data on Opera bugs no less, version 9.52 & 10.52 just released today no less in final form) as erroneous, and that Clone is a sore loser.

    Clone, face it: Opera's FASTER than FireFox in HTML parse & process work, plus javascript work too, and Opera shows less bugs over time than FireFox does, consistently no less... whether or not you can handle that or not, doesn't matter - you LOSE, as per usual.

    Still - They're ALL pretty good browsers though, but this "little tidbit" from a "hacker-cracker/security researcher" MAY "shed a bit of light on the subject" of which browser to use (Because Opera's the overall FASTEST currently & especially on the MOST USED OS PLATFORM THERE IS ON PCs/Servers in Windows, & consistently over time, @ HTML parse work, & again has re-seized its crown in Javascript processing speeds as well, vs. FireFox currently (which typically, Opera led FF there as well over time MOST of the time too)):

    ----

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

    "The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."

    ----

    Nuff said, on the subject of which browser even the "hacker/cracker/security researcher types" use, & why (security-by-obscurity, @ THE VERY LEAST).

    All the libelling of others online will not help you, once people see how you react in your "geek angst" when you lose poorly due to bogus libelling of others on this website, which makes you appear in your true nature of being a libellous online scumbag weasel.

    1. Re:Why's Clone libelling others here? Geek Angst! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey apk... could you do me a big favour and count my pocket change for me? I won’t get a job because I can’t count because I didn’t get a degree, like you have said many times (well, that’s all according to you really, since I never said anything like it). It’s really irritating to not be able to count your own pocket change as I’m sure you can understand and I know you’ll be happy to count it for me. thanks.

      http://i40.tinypic.com/1ytuva.jpg

      p.s. don’t even think of taking any of it, I know it’s more money than you’ll see in a whole month but it’s mine and you can’t have any of it.

  49. Why's Clone libelling others here? Geek Angst! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject above, and see how Clone tried to libel others here on this website via his signature and was proven wrong here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1632188&cid=31999288 .

    Funny how that shut clone53421, eh?

    Clone53421 is nothing more than a little out of work bum who can't get a job because he wastes his life on slashdot here libelling others (which is why he won't get a job, because his kind do this rampantly, and this is why suits against them are not worth it - nothing to be had in suing a "ne'er do well" like Clone53421 is why).

    Why is Clone libelling apk? Ok:

    ----

    Mozilla Firefox DOM Node Moving Use-After-Free Vulnerability:

    http://secunia.com/advisories/39175/

    Release Date 2010-04-02
    Last Update 2010-04-06

    ----

    Clone lost his behind in a debate with apk on FireFox http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/23/0415208/Germany-Warns-Against-Using-Firefox (when Germany warned vs. its usage, as they had for IE previous to that) here, regarding FireFox 3.6, which then forced a reissue of FireFox 3.6.2 (not 2.6.2 as Clone erroneously noted it there as also), but during the timeframe of that debate (03/23/2010 - 04/05/2010)?

    LOL: FireFox turned up YET ANOTHER SECURITY BUG in their DOM during that debate's timeframe (see between dashed lines above), which forced an issuance of FireFox 3.6.3 on 04/06/2010!

    Also, when that news of a NEW FIREFOX BUG came out?

    Well - Slashdot's moderators "strangely closed that thread on Germany early" (NOT) in less than 2 weeks...

    This libel of apk only showed Clone's poor defense of FireFox (inclusive of citing very old 3-5 versions out of date data on Opera bugs no less, version 9.52 & 10.52 just released today no less in final form) as erroneous, and that Clone is a sore loser.

    Clone, face it: Opera's FASTER than FireFox in HTML parse & process work, plus javascript work too, and Opera shows less bugs over time than FireFox does, consistently no less... whether or not you can handle that or not, doesn't matter - you LOSE, as per usual.

    Still - They're ALL pretty good browsers though, but this "little tidbit" from a "hacker-cracker/security researcher" MAY "shed a bit of light on the subject" of which browser to use (Because Opera's the overall FASTEST currently & especially on the MOST USED OS PLATFORM THERE IS ON PCs/Servers in Windows, & consistently over time, @ HTML parse work, & again has re-seized its crown in Javascript processing speeds as well, vs. FireFox currently (which typically, Opera led FF there as well over time MOST of the time too)):

    ----

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

    "The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."

    ----

    Nuff said, on the subject of which browser even the "hacker/cracker/security researcher types" use, & why (security-by-obscurity, @ THE VERY LEAST).

    All the libelling of others online will not help you, once people see how you react in your "geek angst" when you lose poorly due to bogus libelling of others on this website, which makes you appear in your true nature of being a libellous online scumbag weasel.

  50. Why's Clone libelling others here? Geek Angst! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject above, and see how Clone tried to libel others here on this website via his signature and was proven wrong here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1632188&cid=31999288 .

    Funny how that shut clone53421, eh?

    Clone53421 is nothing more than a little out of work bum who can't get a job because he wastes his life on slashdot here libelling others (which is why he won't get a job, because his kind do this rampantly, and this is why suits against them are not worth it - nothing to be had in suing a "ne'er do well" like Clone53421 is why).

    Why is Clone libelling apk? Ok:

    ----

    Mozilla Firefox DOM Node Moving Use-After-Free Vulnerability:

    http://secunia.com/advisories/39175/

    Release Date 2010-04-02
    Last Update 2010-04-06

    ----

    Clone lost his behind in a debate with apk on FireFox http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/23/0415208/Germany-Warns-Against-Using-Firefox (when Germany warned vs. its usage, as they had for IE previous to that) here, regarding FireFox 3.6, which then forced a reissue of FireFox 3.6.2 (not 2.6.2 as Clone erroneously noted it there as also), but during the timeframe of that debate (03/23/2010 - 04/05/2010)?

    LOL: FireFox turned up YET ANOTHER SECURITY BUG in their DOM during that debate's timeframe (see between dashed lines above), which forced an issuance of FireFox 3.6.3 on 04/06/2010!

    Also, when that news of a NEW FIREFOX BUG came out?

    Well - Slashdot's moderators "strangely closed that thread on Germany early" (NOT) in less than 2 weeks...

    This libel of apk only showed Clone's poor defense of FireFox (inclusive of citing very old 3-5 versions out of date data on Opera bugs no less, version 9.52 & 10.52 just released today no less in final form) as erroneous, and that Clone is a sore loser.

    Clone, face it: Opera's FASTER than FireFox in HTML parse & process work, plus javascript work too, and Opera shows less bugs over time than FireFox does, consistently no less... whether or not you can handle that or not, doesn't matter - you LOSE, as per usual.

    Still - They're ALL pretty good browsers though, but this "little tidbit" from a "hacker-cracker/security researcher" MAY "shed a bit of light on the subject" of which browser to use (Because Opera's the overall FASTEST currently & especially on the MOST USED OS PLATFORM THERE IS ON PCs/Servers in Windows, & consistently over time, @ HTML parse work, & again has re-seized its crown in Javascript processing speeds as well, vs. FireFox currently (which typically, Opera led FF there as well over time MOST of the time too)):

    ----

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

    "The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."

    ----

    Nuff said, on the subject of which browser even the "hacker/cracker/security researcher types" use, & why (security-by-obscurity, @ THE VERY LEAST).

    All the libelling of others online will not help you, once people see how you react in your "geek angst" when you lose poorly due to bogus libelling of others on this website, which makes you appear in your true nature of being a libellous online scumbag weasel.

  51. Clone, your ac replies fool nobody by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why's Clone libelling others here? Geek Angst!

    See subject above, and see how Clone tried to libel others here on this website via his signature and was proven wrong here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1632188&cid=31999288 .

    Funny how that shut clone53421, eh?

    Clone53421 is nothing more than a little out of work bum who can't get a job because he wastes his life on slashdot here libelling others (which is why he won't get a job, because his kind do this rampantly, and this is why suits against them are not worth it - nothing to be had in suing a "ne'er do well" like Clone53421 is why).

    Why is Clone libelling apk? Ok:

    ----

    Mozilla Firefox DOM Node Moving Use-After-Free Vulnerability:

    http://secunia.com/advisories/39175/

    Release Date 2010-04-02
    Last Update 2010-04-06

    ----

    Clone lost his behind in a debate with apk on FireFox http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/23/0415208/Germany-Warns-Against-Using-Firefox (when Germany warned vs. its usage, as they had for IE previous to that) here, regarding FireFox 3.6, which then forced a reissue of FireFox 3.6.2 (not 2.6.2 as Clone erroneously noted it there as also), but during the timeframe of that debate (03/23/2010 - 04/05/2010)?

    LOL: FireFox turned up YET ANOTHER SECURITY BUG in their DOM during that debate's timeframe (see between dashed lines above), which forced an issuance of FireFox 3.6.3 on 04/06/2010!

    Also, when that news of a NEW FIREFOX BUG came out?

    Well - Slashdot's moderators "strangely closed that thread on Germany early" (NOT) in less than 2 weeks...

    This libel of apk only showed Clone's poor defense of FireFox (inclusive of citing very old 3-5 versions out of date data on Opera bugs no less, version 9.52 & 10.52 just released today no less in final form) as erroneous, and that Clone is a sore loser.

    Clone, face it: Opera's FASTER than FireFox in HTML parse & process work, plus javascript work too, and Opera shows less bugs over time than FireFox does, consistently no less... whether or not you can handle that or not, doesn't matter - you LOSE, as per usual.

    Still - They're ALL pretty good browsers though, but this "little tidbit" from a "hacker-cracker/security researcher" MAY "shed a bit of light on the subject" of which browser to use (Because Opera's the overall FASTEST currently & especially on the MOST USED OS PLATFORM THERE IS ON PCs/Servers in Windows, & consistently over time, @ HTML parse work, & again has re-seized its crown in Javascript processing speeds as well, vs. FireFox currently (which typically, Opera led FF there as well over time MOST of the time too)):

    ----

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

    "The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."

    ----

    Nuff said, on the subject of which browser even the "hacker/cracker/security researcher types" use, & why (security-by-obscurity, @ THE VERY LEAST).

    All the libelling of others online will not help you, once people see how you react in your "geek angst" when you lose poorly due to bogus libelling of others on this website, which makes you appear in your true nature of being a libellous online scumbag weasel, clone53421.

    And clone53421? Your replying by posting as ac doesn't fool anyone either, so give it up already. There is nothing above that is unsubstantiated above whatsoever, as the urls are posted where they can be verifie

    1. Re:Clone, your ac replies fool nobody by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Again, I'm NOT CLONE, idiot.

      Rather than posting a kneejerk response assuming any critic of what you're doing is the person you're stalking, why not take a step back and ask if it's true.

      I'm not saying your allegations against Clone are wrong, I'm saying that your presentation is making you, and by implication AFK, look like a Kook. Step back, think about what it is you're doing, and think logically.

      Honestly, your posts don't even make any sense. You make some claims about "libel" but assume readers already know what it is you're talking about. And even if you did reword the post to something like "Look Clone, on such-and-such a day you claimed ABC about DEF but actually were wrong, see _here_ and _here_", posting it over and over and over again isn't going to make you any friends.

      Step back, take a deep breath, stop assuming that anyone who's saying that posting the same incomprehensible diatribe over and over again is, well, self-defeating, is the person you're attacking, and think about a better strategy. Assuming, of course, right is on your side.

  52. Why's Clone libelling others here? Geek Angst! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is Clone libelling apk in his signature here? Ok:

    ----

    Mozilla Firefox DOM Node Moving Use-After-Free Vulnerability:

    http://secunia.com/advisories/39175/

    Release Date 2010-04-02
    Last Update 2010-04-06

    ----

    Clone lost his behind in a debate with apk on FireFox http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/23/0415208/Germany-Warns-Against-Using-Firefox (when Germany warned vs. its usage, as they had for IE previous to that) here, regarding FireFox 3.6, which then forced a reissue of FireFox 3.6.2 (not 2.6.2 as Clone erroneously noted it there as also), but during the timeframe of that debate (03/23/2010 - 04/05/2010)?

    LOL: FireFox turned up YET ANOTHER SECURITY BUG in their DOM during that debate's timeframe (see between dashed lines above), which forced an issuance of FireFox 3.6.3 on 04/06/2010!

    Also, when that news of a NEW FIREFOX BUG came out?

    Well - Slashdot's moderators "strangely closed that thread on Germany early" (NOT) in less than 2 weeks...

    This libel of apk only showed Clone's poor defense of FireFox (inclusive of citing very old 3-5 versions out of date data on Opera bugs no less, version 9.52 & 10.52 just released today no less in final form) as erroneous, and that Clone is a sore loser.

    Clone, face it: Opera's FASTER than FireFox in HTML parse & process work, plus javascript work too, and Opera shows less bugs over time than FireFox does, consistently no less... whether or not you can handle that or not, doesn't matter - you LOSE, as per usual.

    Still - They're ALL pretty good browsers though, but this "little tidbit" from a "hacker-cracker/security researcher" MAY "shed a bit of light on the subject" of which browser to use (Because Opera's the overall FASTEST currently & especially on the MOST USED OS PLATFORM THERE IS ON PCs/Servers in Windows, & consistently over time, @ HTML parse work, & again has re-seized its crown in Javascript processing speeds as well, vs. FireFox currently (which typically, Opera led FF there as well over time MOST of the time too)):

    ----

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

    "The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."

    ----

    Nuff said, on the subject of which browser even the "hacker/cracker/security researcher types" use, & why (security-by-obscurity, @ THE VERY LEAST).

    All the libelling of others online will not help you, once people see how you react in your "geek angst" when you lose poorly due to bogus libelling of others on this website, which makes you appear in your true nature of being a libellous online scumbag weasel, clone53421.

    And clone53421? Your replying by posting as ac doesn't fool anyone either, so give it up already.

  53. Why's Clone libelling others here? Geek Angst! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject above, and see how Clone tried to libel others here on this website via his signature and was proven wrong here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1632188&cid=31999288 .

    Funny how that shut clone53421, eh?

    Clone53421 is nothing more than a little out of work bum who can't get a job because he wastes his life on slashdot here libelling others (which is why he won't get a job, because his kind do this rampantly, and this is why suits against them are not worth it - nothing to be had in suing a "ne'er do well" like Clone53421 is why).

    Why is Clone libelling apk? Ok:

    ----

    Mozilla Firefox DOM Node Moving Use-After-Free Vulnerability:

    http://secunia.com/advisories/39175/

    Release Date 2010-04-02
    Last Update 2010-04-06

    ----

    Clone lost his behind in a debate with apk on FireFox http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/23/0415208/Germany-Warns-Against-Using-Firefox (when Germany warned vs. its usage, as they had for IE previous to that) here, regarding FireFox 3.6, which then forced a reissue of FireFox 3.6.2 (not 2.6.2 as Clone erroneously noted it there as also), but during the timeframe of that debate (03/23/2010 - 04/05/2010)?

    LOL: FireFox turned up YET ANOTHER SECURITY BUG in their DOM during that debate's timeframe (see between dashed lines above), which forced an issuance of FireFox 3.6.3 on 04/06/2010!

    Also, when that news of a NEW FIREFOX BUG came out?

    Well - Slashdot's moderators "strangely closed that thread on Germany early" (NOT) in less than 2 weeks...

    This libel of apk only showed Clone's poor defense of FireFox (inclusive of citing very old 3-5 versions out of date data on Opera bugs no less, version 9.52 & 10.52 just released today no less in final form) as erroneous, and that Clone is a sore loser.

    Clone, face it: Opera's FASTER than FireFox in HTML parse & process work, plus javascript work too, and Opera shows less bugs over time than FireFox does, consistently no less... whether or not you can handle that or not, doesn't matter - you LOSE, as per usual.

    Still - They're ALL pretty good browsers though, but this "little tidbit" from a "hacker-cracker/security researcher" MAY "shed a bit of light on the subject" of which browser to use (Because Opera's the overall FASTEST currently & especially on the MOST USED OS PLATFORM THERE IS ON PCs/Servers in Windows, & consistently over time, @ HTML parse work, & again has re-seized its crown in Javascript processing speeds as well, vs. FireFox currently (which typically, Opera led FF there as well over time MOST of the time too)):

    ----

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

    "The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."

    ----

    Nuff said, on the subject of which browser even the "hacker/cracker/security researcher types" use, & why (security-by-obscurity, @ THE VERY LEAST).

    All the libelling of others online will not help you, once people see how you react in your "geek angst" when you lose poorly due to bogus libelling of others on this website, which makes you appear in your true nature of being a libellous online scumbag weasel, clone53421.

  54. Poor clone cant handle that he lost a debate lmao by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Per subject above, see here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1632810&cid=32008154 and if it makes you happy to call me apk, fine. Go for it. As long as you keep taking your meds and we keep you away from sharp objects, we should all be ok, lol!

  55. Re:Poor clone cant handle that he lost a debate lm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well I actually thought you could count. I guess not. You aren’t much use to anyone, are you?

  56. Misleading Title - Does not affect iPads by olafva · · Score: 1

    Note that this is another Windows virus that affects only Windows PCs.
    It does NOT affect iPads or any Mac products.
    BitDefender is likely using the iPad's popularity to widen
    their Windows anti-virus audience. Most everyone knows
    that Macs do not use .exe files used by virus writers to perpetrate
    Windows viri. Nice attempt at publicity!

    --
    What's past is NOT ALWAYS prologue for the future!
    1. Re:Misleading Title - Does not affect iPads by olafva · · Score: 1

      A bit more about malware on Mac Products:
      By the way, many hear Macs have no better security than Windows PCs. Nothing could be farther from the truth. It is NOT simply “Security by Obscurity” (10% of laptop Market). Mac security problems (viri etc.) reported have been related to old pre-OSX O/S, Officeand other M$ products run on Macs, pfishing attacks etc. Macs don’t recognize .exe files,and most importantly default privlidges do not allow any “foreign” software to be installed.MacOSX informs you of any attempt to install “foreign” software, and if you insist on installing it, it will ask for the system password. Even if you’re gullible enough to enter the system password, it again warns you that you’re about to install “foreign” softeware for which you have to acknowledge again. Even if it is installed (i.e. an .exe file), you can click on it and it will do no damage to you Mac. In addition, unlike Windows PCs out of the box all port access except 2 (ftp & ssh) are blocked which prevents hackers from exploiting backdoors. You can see plenty of testimony from Windows users who are relieved when they switch to Macs to be free of malware, except phishing attacks, of course. Now if Apple would only send me a check for writing this based on my heavy Windows, Linux and OSX systems experience.

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      What's past is NOT ALWAYS prologue for the future!
  57. Why are you asking others to count for you then? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why are you asking others to count your change then, per my subject above? It's rather obivous that you cannot count. You burned yourself by setting yourself up like a bowling pin.

  58. Re:Why are you asking others to count for you then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why are you acting high and mighty, if you cannot count either?

    p.s. I bet you wish you had just one of those $20 bills, I’m sure you could count that many of them

  59. Re:Why are you asking others to count for you then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    p.p.s luckily paypal can count, because I wouldn’t even dream of asking you to add $9,842.76 plus $15,000.00.

    http://i40.tinypic.com/oh4aw9.jpg

  60. "exercise those legal options", clone53421? LMAO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    clone53241, the pussy bullshit artist, attempting to play 'attorney online' lmao:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31746938

    So sue him then, pussy. Go for it. I think that once your real name is known to those you libel you'll really be hurting then. Of course, no balls wimps like you are all talk. After all, You're the one talking about "exercising legal options" pussy. Go for it. What an unbelieveable little scumbag weasel and pussy, libeler, and liar that likes to be the "pot calling the kettle black". Lots of talk there clone53421, but no action, and as you said, "actions speak louder than words" big talker wannabe 'internet attorney online' that you are (that likes to libel others no less with malicious intent).

  61. Yea "ok", now go try your troll tricks elsewhere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But before you do? Please explain why clone avoided admitting he stalked apk thru 3 threads and otherwise tried to b.s. him then here:

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    "In case you didn't already know this, changing your IP address to defeat Slashdot's anti-spam mechanism constitutes both fraudulently misrepresenting yourself (A CRIME, as I already told you) and also considered unauthorized access to a computer system (HACKING)." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @08:25PM (#31743416)

    I'll just quote the person you gave a hard time to over there on that because I am basically wondering the same and would like to see your proof too, thanks:

    Oh, really? Care to show me a legal precedent OR ruling of that being the case, were I switching IP addresses to overcome the "10 posts per 24 hour limit" on AC users? I sign off as APK, so I am NOT "misrepresenting myself" here, in case you hadn't noticed, lol!

    You also stated that YOU are being stalked? clone53421, you did the same to this very guy apk you were was bothering there and its stated from the outset.

    Once more, clone53421 the bullshit artist with "legal options he can exercise" -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31746938 (ahem: *cough* "BULLSHIT" *cough*) doesn't seem too credible, intelligent, and is a stalker of others himself. You are pitifully stupid clone54321, you know that? The very things you said the ac apk was doing to you, you do yourself and worse. Amazing, and you wonder why you are being shamed now like this? You had it coming. Jerks like you are what ruin the internet.

  62. clone54321 you certainly screwed up didn't you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject and prove what you stated here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1633414&cid=32040320 because I'd like to see proof that it was this apk person you have clearly libeled, trolled (through 3 different threads this past week), and lied about.

    The ironically funniest part was how You clone54321 were shot down in your desperate attempt to discredit him, and you hilariously picked Jeremy Reimer from arstechnica who was busted with police being called on him for death threats to apk on Reimer's very website you used, which resulted in his forums having large tracts removed of that material and libel of apk (and his henchman below had 2 whole websites removed by CrystalTech.com), also for email harassing that apk fellow Reimer's ISP put him on a tracking ticket which made Reimer cease and desist the email harassment, impersonating him on his forums and when asked nicely to remove it?

    Reimer then pursued apk to Windows IT Pro magazine with a "henchman" in a fat pig named Jay Little who said he was "an expert on Microsoft Exchange" where apk shot that down and Jay Little that obese hog with it, with proof from Microsoft themselves, using their own tty/console mode clearmem.exe app to show that due to memory fragmentation, Exchange servers are KNOWN to stall and what stops it? Memory Optimization programs. He also corrected 'the great russinovich''s work no less, a PHD, who hardcoded paths in his apps (a rookie move) and he ended up thanking apk for it, and lastly, apk predicted VISTA would fail, due to memory and caching (which it did on file copies and the fix? Alter caching in the memmgt section of the registry, here -> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/920739 ).

    So much for PHD's, because as was said in "the serpent and the rainbow'? Mozart could give any Harvard PhD a run for his money. Not only did apk give Dr. Mark Russinovich a "run for his money", he outright floored him in the end there. Did you really think you could outthink and outfox that person?

    You tried to on firefox 3.6's bug where Germany said to avoid firefox like they did for IE earlier, but never for opera, and you said they did, lying. Unbelievable. Then, ff issued 3.62 to cover that, & oddly the mods on this forums closed that thread 2-5 or so days earlier than usual. Why? I suspect because the last day that thread was open, firefox turned up yet another unpatched security vulnerability, which would have iced you totally (even more than you were already being dusted there already) by showing that apk is correct that ff gets a lot more bugs than Opera ever does, and takes longer to patch them typically also.

    So the usual result from you, is libel and name calling as you are doing here with your insinuations as you did here, you did there. You are too predictable troll (clone54321), and because of that, very simple to out think and out maneuver.

    So all that aside after I read through all of this, I had to sound off here on it because you have done the same to me clone54321 you dirty troll. So, show us where apk said that please. It wouldn't really matter if he did because you did indeed libel him here on many accounts like calling him a spyware maker which I also would be steamed about were I he too, and much more, many more times. Once MIGHT be excusable, as you were misinformed by that moron Thor Schrock, but apk told you he called CA's Greg Jensen and passed their 21 point test for malware removal, and though they did not remove his single app (of 50 or so online)? They had to downrate it to zero threat levels. Call him yourself, Mr. Informative (for what? self-modding himself up to +5 "informative" via alternate registered user account logons here? Clone's the type that does that because no way would 1 sentence above be a +5 on any sane forums, quite obviously). Fact is, he probably has a $200,000 libel suit possibility like he said because not only did CA do th

  63. clone54321 likes libeling others in his signature? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject and prove what you stated here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1633414&cid=32040320 because I'd like to see proof that it was this apk person you have clearly libeled, trolled (through 3 different threads this past week), and lied about.

    The ironically funniest part was how You clone54321 were shot down in your desperate attempt to discredit him, and you hilariously picked Jeremy Reimer from arstechnica who was busted with police being called on him for death threats to apk on Reimer's very website you used, which resulted in his forums having large tracts removed of that material and libel of apk (and his henchman below had 2 whole websites removed by CrystalTech.com), also for email harassing that apk fellow Reimer's ISP put him on a tracking ticket which made Reimer cease and desist the email harassment, impersonating him on his forums and when asked nicely to remove it?

    Reimer then pursued apk to Windows IT Pro magazine with a "henchman" in a fat pig named Jay Little who said he was "an expert on Microsoft Exchange" where apk shot that down and Jay Little that obese hog with it, with proof from Microsoft themselves, using their own tty/console mode clearmem.exe app to show that due to memory fragmentation, Exchange servers are KNOWN to stall and what stops it? Memory Optimization programs. He also corrected 'the great russinovich''s work no less, a PHD, who hardcoded paths in his apps (a rookie move) and he ended up thanking apk for it, and lastly, apk predicted VISTA would fail, due to memory and caching (which it did on file copies and the fix? Alter caching in the memmgt section of the registry, here -> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/920739 ).

    So much for PHD's, because as was said in "the serpent and the rainbow'? Mozart could give any Harvard PhD a run for his money. Not only did apk give Dr. Mark Russinovich a "run for his money", he outright floored him in the end there. Did you really think you could outthink and outfox that person?

    You tried to on firefox 3.6's bug where Germany said to avoid firefox like they did for IE earlier, but never for opera, and you said they did, lying. Unbelievable. Then, ff issued 3.62 to cover that, & oddly the mods on this forums closed that thread 2-5 or so days earlier than usual. Why? I suspect because the last day that thread was open, firefox turned up yet another unpatched security vulnerability, which would have iced you totally (even more than you were already being dusted there already) by showing that apk is correct that ff gets a lot more bugs than Opera ever does, and takes longer to patch them typically also.

    So the usual result from you, is libel and name calling as you are doing here with your insinuations as you did here, you did there. You are too predictable troll (clone54321), and because of that, very simple to out think and out maneuver.

    So all that aside after I read through all of this, I had to sound off here on it because you have done the same to me clone54321 you dirty troll. So, show us where apk said that please. It wouldn't really matter if he did because you did indeed libel him here on many accounts like calling him a spyware maker which I also would be steamed about were I he too, and much more, many more times. Once MIGHT be excusable, as you were misinformed by that moron Thor Schrock, but apk told you he called CA's Greg Jensen and passed their 21 point test for malware removal, and though they did not remove his single app (of 50 or so online)? They had to downrate it to zero threat levels. Call him yourself, Mr. Informative (for what? self-modding himself up to +5 "informative" via alternate registered user account logons here? Clone's the type that does that because no way would 1 sentence above be a +5 on any sane forums, quite obviously). Fact is, he probably has a $200,000 libel suit possibility like he said because not only did CA do th

  64. Re:Yea "ok", now go try your troll tricks elsewher by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am not clone.

    And regardless of what Clone has done, YOU are the person spamming Slashdot as part of personal vendetta. That's what's making you look ridiculous, not allegations made by Clone that you're repeating.

    And yeah, you might want to cut out repeating every allegation clone has made against you in every other comment you post. Nobody cares, and given your modus-operandi, most of us are going to side with him on that.