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Palin Email Snoop Found Guilty On 2 Charges

netbuzz writes "A federal jury in Knoxville today has convicted David Kernell, 22, of two charges — misdemeanor computer fraud and felony obstruction of justice — in connection with the 2008 episode where he accessed the personal Yahoo email account of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin and then initiated a worldwide rummaging of its contents. The obstruction charge carries a maximum prison term of 20 years."

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  1. Jury also hung on one count by random+coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They also hung on the count of Identity Theft; The DA can retry that later if he so chooses.

    1. Re:Jury also hung on one count by Locke2005 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Identity theft? I think they need to bring Tina Fey up on that charge!

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  2. I'm still confused by something... by Pojut · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I understand (and agree) that the guy should be punished for hacking this account, but how come nothing ever happend about Palin conducting official State business using her personal email account? Is it because the information was technically obtained illegaly? Or did something happen and I just missed it...?

    1. Re:I'm still confused by something... by etymxris · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, that's not it. As long as the person is not working as an "agent of the state", anything they do is admissible. This came up when a hacker kept hacking into pedophiles' computers and turning them into the police. The courts ruled he was not working as an agent of the state, since the police had no control over him.

    2. Re:I'm still confused by something... by furball · · Score: 4, Informative

      The court determined that she wasn't in violation. Take it up with the court if you disagree.

      http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=11867946

    3. Re:I'm still confused by something... by TrancePhreak · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If they went after the Bush administration for doing it, they would have to go after the Obama administration also. It's a slippery slope that leads to everyone getting attacked.

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    4. Re:I'm still confused by something... by HeckRuler · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Really? You've got creditable evidence that the Obama administration is using personal email to circumvent email logging and conduct official business "off the record"?

      That would be fascinating to hear about, tell us more.

    5. Re:I'm still confused by something... by mortonda · · Score: 5, Informative

      Too lazy to look up the details, though, so no "informative" mods for me.

      You think that proof is required to get modded up as informative here on /.? You must be new here.

  3. Obstruction of justice by Hatta · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What did he do that qualifies as obstruction of justice?

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    1. Re:Obstruction of justice by Korey+Kaczor · · Score: 4, Informative

      He ran away from the feds when they came knocking, and apparently formatted his hard drive to erase evidence (the wikipedia page says deleted, but I'm guessing that's what he did).

    2. Re:Obstruction of justice by josath · · Score: 4, Informative

      The courts have decided that what Palin did was not a crime. So I'd say a crime is more significant than a non-crime.

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  4. Re:Two Stupid People by Labcoat+Samurai · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "He gained access to Twitter accounts by simply working out the answers to password reminder questions on targets' e-mail accounts, according to investigators. " Seriously, I hate those things. When it used to be allowed, I always just retyped my password into the answers for those security questions. It's always really easy stuff to socially engineer or, in the case of a public figure, look up on google... Did he figure out the name of Obama's first pet, where he went to school, his first job, his mother's maiden name, or what? All of those things have got to be fairly easy to work out.

  5. Lessons learned by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you're going to do this, at least become a telecom company first. When they pull this kind of shit, they get a pat on the back.

  6. Re:So you kill a guy, can get out in 2 years min by ShadowRangerRIT · · Score: 5, Informative

    Two years only happens in extenuating circumstances (say, a woman kills her rapist after the fact; it's murder, but it's really hard to apply a tough sentence). Murder is rarely punished with a mere two years. That said, sentencing guidelines are fscked up, because it's always easier to appear "tough on crime" than it is to establish just guidelines.

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  7. Re:Two Stupid People by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Did he figure out the name of Obama's first pet, where he went to school, his first job, his mother's maiden name, or what? All of those things have got to be fairly easy to work out.

    You mean, people put honest answers in those fields??? [boggles]

  8. Cost of imprisonment isn't worth it. by pwnies · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Things like this make me sad. Not just because I feel bad for the person, but also because frankly I don't want my taxes spent on keeping this man imprisoned for up to twenty years. Cost of imprisonment is on average 22,650 per year, at 20 years that's $453,000. In my opinion it's not worth that much to keep a man behind bars for guessing a password.

    1. Re:Cost of imprisonment isn't worth it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      it's not worth that much to keep a man behind bars for guessing a password.

      Up to one year for guessing a password. 20 years for lying about it.

    2. Re:Cost of imprisonment isn't worth it. by Graff · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ...I don't want my taxes spent on keeping this man imprisoned for up to twenty years. Cost of imprisonment is on average 22,650 per year, at 20 years that's $453,000. In my opinion it's not worth that much to keep a man behind bars for guessing a password.

      He won't get anything near 20 years. In a case like this he'll get almost no time in a minimal security facility, then he'll be put on probation for a number of years and he might also have to do community service or similar. Total cost to the taxpayer will be minimal, the trial itself will probably cost more than the actual imprisonment.

      That being said, you NEED to have the threat of 20 years so that there's a possible consequence to your actions. If you break into someone's e-mail there should be penalties and just the possibility of 20 years behind bars is enough to keep most people from trying this sort of thing. You also need it for repeat offenders so that you can punish them properly. This doesn't mean you always need to give the maximum, that's why it's a maximum and not a set amount.

  9. You missed something by random+coward · · Score: 4, Informative
  10. Re:Why is this different? by cowscows · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why bother picking a lock when there's so many other easier ways to get into the average house? Breaking a window is trivial, drilling out a lock isn't hard, etc. To someone even mildly determined to get in, the average house lock is less of a issue than a weak password is for an email account.

    While it's certainly smarter to have a strong password than a weak one, to say that having a weak password should mean that you take on some of the legal responsibility for a crime committed against you by someone else is ridiculous.

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  11. They don't know what deadlock means by 200_success · · Score: 4, Funny

    From the article:

    A sentencing date will not be set until prosecutors decide whether they will retry kernel on the deadlocked charge, according to this report.

    You can't retry a deadlocked kernel. The only way out is a hard reset.

  12. It's always a good day when privacy protections by davide+marney · · Score: 4, Insightful

    are upheld in Court. Personal email really IS private, and people should be held accountable if they cross the line. Jail time sounds a bit extreme, given the youthful age of the accused, but I'm glad the legal precedents are being followed correctly.

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  13. Re:Justice? by geekoid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder if wiping your fingerprints after a robbery constitutes obstruction of justice?

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  14. Alaskan judge disagrees with you by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Informative

    An Alaska judge has sided with former Gov. Sarah Palin in a lawsuit over e-mail, finding that state law doesn't forbid the use of private e-mail accounts to conduct state business.

    By the way, that was from back in January. Didn't your copt of Palin Haters Weekly include that news? Gee, I wonder why not?

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  15. Re:Two Stupid People by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Except it wasn't the 'obvious password' which did them in, it was the lame drop-box security questions. Make it so all security questions are chosen when the account is created, and not selected from some stupid list, and your problem is solved.

    Please answer your security question: "What country were you born in ?"
    > "Kenya"

    *ducks*

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  16. Re:Two Stupid People by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 4, Informative

    If there had been anything that could have even remotely made even the most shaky, thin case against Palin in the emails, you don't think it would have been the subject of a special Congressional committee and/or special prosecutor? You don't think that was *exactly* the intent behind the account cracking?

    Actually, I was on ebaumsworld when the account was "hacked" and the first screenshots were posted and I can assure you it was done for the lulz and not some some diabolical political purpose.

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