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When SSD and USB 3.0 Come Together

An anonymous reader writes "USB flash drives have been a quiet revolution in computing. Their rise broke the death grip that the floppy drive had on the PC industry, and smaller capacity models have become cheap, disposable means of data transport and distribution. Yet while you can pick up a 4GB model for less than the price of a meal, large capacity drives are still prohibitively expensive. Meanwhile, solid state drives (SSDs) also utilize flash memory, but masquerade as mechanical hard drives rather than USB storage devices. Now it seems the two technologies are bashing into each other, with this article pointing to OCZ's new Enyo USB 3.0 SSD — a rather curious beast that looks like a thin external hard drive and connects via USB, but houses an SSD inside."

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  1. When Slashdot and Advertisements... by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When Slashdot and Advertisements come together... Slashvertisements! You could have learned as much or more by reading the press release where it is revealed that "Enyo USB 3.0 Portable SSDs will begin shipping this now and will be available through OCZ's extensive worldwide channel." Thank goodness, I thought I would have to wait for the next now. Also per the pr, "the Enyo features a sleek, anodized aluminum housing" ... the choice of words implies that it's a desktop SSD in a box. It would be nice to know which one, if so.

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    1. Re:When Slashdot and Advertisements... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      yeah, but perhaps, like a million other technology sites, this one has seemed to have added something, by explaining why the product is so interesting, giving it some historical context, and discussing the implications. The price comparison with flash drives too -not quite what you'd find in OCZ's material.

    2. Re:When Slashdot and Advertisements... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well fuck, what do you expect on a part TECHNOLOGY website? People arguing over Windows, Mac and Linux? That's what 4chans /g/ is for... and Linux articles. (sadly)

      This is actually a fascinating short article / long summary on the history of the devices.
      And since it is a USB3 SSD, that is a pretty big deal to be honest, even if the lines "this is an advertisement" were present as well.
      There is nothing wrong with advertising a product, especially if it is one of the reasons we even visit this website, to discuss things relating to technology and science.

      I'd have probably not heard about this at all until it was already out for like a year.

  2. This is nothing new by Machupo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the summary: "Yet while you can pick up a 4GB model for less than the price of a meal, large capacity drives are still prohibitively expensive. Meanwhile, solid state drives (SSDs) also utilize flash memory, but masquerade as mechanical hard drives rather than USB storage devices. Now it seems the two technologies are bashing into each other"

    SSDs, whether they are internal or external will continue to be exorbitantly priced, so you're not getting larger storage densities for cheaper.

    This development is nothing new... I use a deconstructed external USD HDD container and just swap on SATA 2.5" drives as necessary; a SSD would just be another drive to toss on there. While SSDs are significantly faster than most thumb drives, the question at the end of the day is: "Do you have the disposable income for this storage strategy?"

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  3. Yeah... by Pojut · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...but for big-time storage, mechanical drives are still king. As the technology stands now, it is pretty much useless for large-scale storage due to many different things, not the least of which is the cost. That being said, I'm curious if by the time SSDs reach the capacity, price point, and reliability needed for long term storage if they will still be relevant.

    Here's to hoping, though...I love the idea of an SSD, but they still need some advancements before I consider one as my main system drive, much less for storage.

    1. Re:Yeah... by somersault · · Score: 2, Informative

      they still need some advancements before I consider one as my main system drive

      What kind of advancements are those? I've been using one for my main drive for the last year and it's great. At 32GB I do have a distinct lack of music storage space, but I have a 16GB SDHC card in the side for caching subsets of my music, as well as external HDD with all of my music on it.

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    2. Re:Yeah... by Bakkster · · Score: 2, Insightful

      32GB should easily be enough for your main system drive no matter what desktop OS you're running

      Tell that to the bastards who keep forcing their program installation directories to the system drive!

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  4. And? by carp3_noct3m · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are plenty of things on the market that address this issue. You can get 64 Gb flash drives on newegg for less than $150. I remember when I bought a gigabox that was 5 gig for more than that. If you really must have the extra space, I doubt that the max 256 GB model of this SSD is worth it, just get a sata dock, or a regular external, as the speeds of SSD are going to fairly useless on a USB 2.0 system most people have today. The other point to USB flash drives is their portability, I carry about three at all times in my pocket, I don't think I'd want to carry one of these in a pocket. It's interesting, but this is just a slashvertisment.

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    1. Re:And? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Last week, I was in the bathroom, washing my hands after taking a piss. Some guy exits one of the stalls and starts cleaning his hands. I noticed his hands are covered in shit and when I do a second take, I see there's a fucking turd in his shirt pocket. I assumed he was just orion-blastar crazy but if you've seen people stuffing shit in their pockets, maybe there's something else going on?

  5. What's their target market? by Rogerborg · · Score: 2, Funny

    I mean obviously it's posers with more money than sense who simply must have the latest gadget just so they can show off that they're the first to have it, while being secretly disappointed and wishing that they'd waited for the next version.

    But the iPad doesn't have a USB 3 port, so there's no overlap with people who might buy this and people who can use it.

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    1. Re:What's their target market? by somersault · · Score: 2, Funny

      Pretty sure USB 3 is designed to be backwards compatible. That makes it an even more perfect device for iPad users because they don't even get the full functionality out of it.

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  6. Finding standards is a pain.. by Firethorn · · Score: 3, Informative

    SATA 2.0 - 3 GBit
    SATA 3.0 - 6 GBit

    USB 2.0 'highspeed' - 480MBit (Tricky fact: USB 2.0 connection can still be 'lowspeed')
    USB 'superspeed' - 4.8 GBit.

    Going by what the article says, I think that the e-sata specification should have included some power providing abilities. Preferably enough to run a 2.5" HD/SSD on it's own.

    I mean USB specifications are actually changing to be able to provide even MORE power. Looking at the octopus nest behind my computer, I count elimination of cables as a GOOD thing. If I could have a Monitor with 1 cable(at the cost of an even beefier power supply in my computer), power my DSL modem via PoE, I'd be happy. I love my bluetooth mouse, but am too paranoid to go with a wireless keyboard until they come out with one with more serious encryption.

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  7. Title says USB 3.0 by archer,+the · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It'll make a big difference when the USB 3.0 systems arrive.

  8. Re:Woo! by somersault · · Score: 2, Funny

    Minor point, but wouldn't "shitty balls" go better with USB? Trolls these days.. no class.

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  9. USB 3.0? by Yvan256 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What about Light Peak? Why upgrade to a minor speed bump when the next available speed bump is hundreds of times faster?

    Light Peak has enough bandwidth to replace USB 2.0, FireWire 800, DVI/HDMI, Ethernet 1000... all at once, on the first revision no less. Will USB 3.0 ever take off?

    1. Re:USB 3.0? by CAIMLAS · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Light Peak, if it actually comes out as specified, looks like it will be an awesome advancement: it'll change datacenter storage, home storage, and pretty much everything else overnight.

      The crux will be how it's licensed and how it's designed: will it be licensed like USB (ie, liberally) or like Firewire (ie, barely)? Will it be designed to allow for people to abuse the specifications (ie, USB) and still work, or will it be painfully restrictive, allowing only "good" devices to work (ie, Firewire)?

      If it behaves as an interface and costs like USB, it'll fly off the shelves, I think. I'm hoping so, and looking forward to it. But, frankly, I can see it becoming the future equivalent of something like iSCSI or FC: too awesome and capable for the consumer, and it's got such an incredible profit margin we're going to keep it Enterprisey.

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  10. Re:I don't get it by Yamata+no+Orochi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It isn't really news. It's notable because it's the first one with USB 3.0, which is still basically inferior to the transfer speeds of other technologies, but has the capacity to power the drive with only one cable/connection.

  11. 64GB is large scale for most businesses by Viol8 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just because its not enough for a major bank or for you to store your porn collection on doesn't mean it isn't enough for 99% of small businesses.

  12. Re:Oh, please. by somersault · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You can fit various OSes onto a floppy disk, that doesn't mean that floppies have a large capacity. It's all relative. These days I can barely fit a quarter of my music collection into 16GB, but for me 16GB is the sweet cost/size point for USB devices at the moment.

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  13. Disposable?! by Yvan256 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    smaller capacity models have become cheap, disposable means of data transport and distribution

    Can we please stop "disposing" of things, especially complex, hard-to-recycle things like electronic devices?

  14. USB3 + flash storage... inevitable? by Tetsujin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And since it is a USB3 SSD, that is a pretty big deal to be honest, even if the lines "this is an advertisement" were present as well.

    Why is it a big deal? I mean, did anyone not see this coming? We have the USB3 standard coming out (well, it's already out, but a lot of people still don't have the hardware for it) - was the application of USB3 to flash storage somehow not obvious? It was bound to happen sooner or later.

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