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iPhone SDK Agreement Shuts Out HyperCard Clone
Halo1 writes "Demonstrating it's not just about Flash, Apple has officially rejected for the first time another alternative iPhone development environment following its controversial iPhone SDK Agreement changes. Even though RunRev proposed to retool its HyperCard-style development environment to directly expose all of the iPhone OS's APIs, Steve Jobs still rejected its proposal. The strength of RunRev's business case, with a large-scale iPad deployment project in education hinging on the availability of its tool, does not bode well for projects that have less commercial clout. Salient point: at last February's shareholders' meeting, Jobs went on the record saying that something like HyperCard on the iPad would be great, 'but someone would have to create it.'"
Just imagine the outcry if Microsoft banned all other development environments than Visual Studio and .NET from Windows. It would be hit with lawsuits and there would be tons of stories and tens of thousands of comments dissing MS on slashdot.
People also always cry about how consoles are locked down. Slashdotters cry about DRM, restrictions and not giving them control of the devices they buy.
But suddenly when it's Apple it's all ok. Why the hell?
product which pretty much everyone knew wouldn't get approved with the changes ... and now we're surprised?
This might have been news when the changes were introduced, now its just:
Duh, you knew you were treading on thin ice before you even submitted it.
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Your incessant first post trolling in every story about Linux or Apple is extremely tiresome and I find the way your moronic threads often come to dominate the comments to be disgusting.
Find something better to do with all your fucking free time, sopssa.
Jobs went on the record saying that something like HyperCard on the iPad would be great, 'but someone would have to create it'.
This being the same Steve Jobs that effectively killed the original Apple Hypercard back in 2000?
Maybe that should have read, "something like HyperCard on the iPad would be great, but we would have to create it, otherwise it clearly would not be insanely great..."
For something like Hypercard? Sure.
This isn't just the 10,000th fart app.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
Steve Jobs has turned into a megalomaniac who is driven completely by business.
/. community, full of geeks, don't get this. Apple has turned into everything a geek does not want.
I am not even sure if this is metamorphosis. I think this would have a lot earlier had Apple been as successful as Micrsosft turned out to be. We are just finding out what assholes the CEO and the company are now.
Even after this, I can still understand why those who want to be cool and hip go crazy for apple products. What I do not understand is the
Then perhaps the question should be phrased as:
- how would this app need to be created so as to meet the requirements of the license?
William
(who is quite fond of Runtime Revolution as it was originally called and developed a ``ProportionBar'' app in it:
Windows: http://mysite.verizon.net/william_franklin_adams/portfolio/interfaceconcepts/proportionbar.zip
Mac OS X: http://mysite.verizon.net/william_franklin_adams/portfolio/interfaceconcepts/proportionbar.app.sit )
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I just picked up a HTC Incredible and shall I say it is, incredible... the significant reasons are AT&T sucks and the iPhone is cool but it is so married to Apple's blessings. It's one thing to be cool; it's entirely another to be free to choose what you do with your tools. Apple should be careful because it's only a matter of time that something like Android will come and decimate your business model.
You can develop however you like on OS X, which would be the analogous case to developing on Windows.
Find me a 10" MacBook on Apple's web site. The closest thing is iPad.
Why do you need a "MacBook mini"?
For the same reason that anyone else needs a 10" laptop: limited physical space. I seem to remember that either AT&T or a netbook maker ran a TV ad about a netbook (in flight mode) fitting into a coach airplane seat, while the seat in front got in the way of a larger laptop's screen.
And consider the "Homepage" at the top of your post. I use my Dell Mini 10 to develop homebrew games for at least one game console.
Well those people were wrong for sure. I really like my iPad, but it is no substitute for a PC - whether desktop, laptop or netbook. It's better than a PC for users who are only looking for an internet, media and communications device. I can e-mail, create small documents, edit and present, but its not very good at serious original content creation.
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And what is it that makes this a device instead of a computer?
The iron grip Apple holds on it.
Loosen that grip and you could have a truly revolutionary product. As-is, it's only revolutionary in their own PR. And also magical. Super magical.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
I hate it when people trot out that tired convicted monopolist argument.
So if tomorrow the Supreme Court found Apple to be a monopolist with regards to smartphones (setting aside all plausibility arguments as to such, this is a hypothetical), I presume that would make you say what Apple is doing is wrong?
I somehow doubt that would be the case for most people that raise the convicted monopolist argument.
Legality is not the same as morality.
If we were all guaranteed with a crystal ball that Apple would forever remain a niche player and that the iPhone/iPad mobile ecosystem would not become the dominant paradigm of mobile computing, then I would agree with you. However, given Apple's current trajectory, this conclusion is by no means clear to me. So in the meantime, I am trying to prevent that from happening, but raising attention to the bad things that would happen if Apple's current growth continues unimpeded.
This is about rights and freedoms. Freedom of choice is meaningless if when the time comes to make a choice, there is only one thing to choose from.
Android probably never will go down that route, and as a result, no matter how successful Android phones become in the market, Android apps will never be as successful as iPhone apps.
not true, Android Marketplace?
The only problem is convincing developers there's a market there, or that developing for generic devices with any number of different features is a good idea.
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
Eh, nowhere in my post do I reference individual Macbook models, or Macbooks in general. There is also no "rugged Macbook" (which I would love), etc. I guess I don't understand your argument here.
Regardless of what hardware they offer, when it comes to developing for OS X it's like any other operating system, and that will never change.
I don't care if it's arbitrary to you or not. Apple sees them as such, so that's how it is. If you don't like it, that's excellent, there are many other products for you to choose from.
And your paranoia is absurd - "a grim digital dark age for humanity" thanks to Apple's sdk limitations, hahaha.
You say you don't care about Apple's draconian actions in your original post.
You then respond to me and imply that you would care if they had an illegal monopoly.
So would it be accurate to characterize your belief as you only care about things, and think they're bad, if they're illegal? For example, if it were legal to have a monopoly, you would not care if a company had a monopoly and exercised it in an anti-competitive fashion?
Personally, I find things good or bad, generally irrespective of what the law says about them, and in turn believe good governance is trying to align the laws with the populace's beliefs on what is good and bad.
In this case, I see actions by Apple, that are plainly anti-competitive, and add nothing to society, and add nothing to anyone except themselves. It may be legal (I am taking no position on that), but despite that, I still believe that Apple's actions are bad, and should be discouraged.
The best way to keep Apple from having a monopoly is not "to not buy an iPhone". It is to not buy an iPhone, to raise attention to Apple, to call them out on their bad behavior, and to not give bad guys a free pass simply because they are complying with the letter of the law.
I haven't heard Toyota calling for developers to come develop for their platform, nor have I seen them using developers to create the usefulness that justify the price a Prius commands. A Prius is worth its price out of the box. IMO, the iPhone and the iPad would be worth much less than they are if not for 3rd party developers. Apple quite often uses the work of these 3rd party developers as bullet points to why you should purchase one of their devices. Without them, you've just purchased an $800 combination Movie/Music player and internet browser.
The word "entitlement" is thrown around as a negative, but in this case - perhaps yes - developers are entitled some amount of consideration from Apple. Note - I said consideration. Thus far, it's only been Apple's way or the highway.
Ha,
That's gold Jerry, Gold.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.