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Websites That Don't Need to Be Made Anymore

They say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but there is a finite number of social networking or selling websites that the world needs. Here is a collection of the eight kinds of websites that absolutely don't need to be made anymore. I'd add dating sites and anybody who uses pop-up ads myself, but I think that would eliminate half the Web.

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  1. Good thing the editors don't read the stories by damn_registrars · · Score: 5, Funny

    If the editors read the stories before posting them, they would have realized that the last item on the list describes the most recent slashdot initiatives...

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    1. Re:Good thing the editors don't read the stories by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There's more to this, though, I think. We're going to be hearing a lot more about how "websites don't need to be made any more" and how it's not the presence of individuals on the web that really adds value.

      There are very rich and very powerful forces that would like the Internet to become nothing but a commercial vehicle for the largest corporations. We're going to hear about how there's really no value in somebody making "another blog" and we're going to hear a lot of aspersions cast upon people who put up content without it being connected to business. Oh, certain big blogs are OK, because they drive eyeballs, carry advertisement and push opinions. Gizmodo: good. - Wired.com: good - Wikileaks: very bad

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    2. Re:Good thing the editors don't read the stories by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 0

      Oh for a pound of mod points. I quite agree with you. Democratisation of media is viewed as a Very Bad Thing by those who make their livelihoods as a funnel for creative output. The same mind-set is what drives the persecution of religions in China - a popular voice you don't control is very intimidating to those in power. I think what we'll see is the rise of media corporations acting as labels and agents for 'indie' blogs, whereby certain protections are afforded bloggers and online content producers in exchange for a cut of the profits and mindshare.

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    3. Re:Good thing the editors don't read the stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When Will Netflix quit using POP-Up Ads.
      They have a decent market share there is no need for this intrusive marketing behavior.

    4. Re:Good thing the editors don't read the stories by Merls+the+Sneaky · · Score: 1

      When advertisers stop paying them or users tell them they are cancelling their subscriptions due to the pop up ads, in sufficient numbers to wipe out the profits the advertisers bring in.

    5. Re:Good thing the editors don't read the stories by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      soon the president will initiate a good old fashioned blog burning.

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    6. Re:Good thing the editors don't read the stories by syousef · · Score: 2, Funny

      There's more to this, though, I think. We're going to be hearing a lot more about how "websites don't need to be made any more" and how it's not the presence of individuals on the web that really adds value.

      There are very rich and very powerful forces that would like the Internet to become nothing but a commercial vehicle for the largest corporations. We're going to hear about how there's really no value in somebody making "another blog" and we're going to hear a lot of aspersions cast upon people who put up content without it being connected to business. Oh, certain big blogs are OK, because they drive eyeballs, carry advertisement and push opinions. Gizmodo: good. - Wired.com: good - Wikileaks: very bad

      That's easily countered. You just come back with 8 articles that don't need to be written anymore.

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    7. Re:Good thing the editors don't read the stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm more irritated by the fact that most of the things on that list describe THE OTHER THINGS ON THE LIST.

      They just said the same thing *repeatedly*.

      "Websites to keep track of your friends," "Websites to show your friends something you found," "Websites for social networking," OK. I GET IT. YOU DISLIKE THOSE WEBSITES.

      Really, the list can be cut down to maybe 2-3 things instead of 8. What's this obsession with 8? Is this the Discworld?

    8. Re:Good thing the editors don't read the stories by lamapper · · Score: 1
      You nailed it, the individual and the individual's opinion, perspective, is the real gold always has been, always will be. The fact that corporations will NEVER be able to totally control individuals is their problem.

      Of course the "standard" web tools are limited for selfish, proprietary and wasted attempts at controlling the individual thus they fail, continue to fail, will always fail.

      .Net, Flash, excessive html markup, overblown cascading style sheets, huge libraries (which try to do everything rather then a few things well and bog down a user's system in the process), any video resolution less then 1080p and less then 30 frames per second, and so many more examples.

      Already some people wrongly believe that everything that needs to be coded, has been, thus to have anyone write new code is useless...yea right...keep thinking that...your wrong.

      The problem is that all the current websites do a crappy job of helping you to find "good" versus "excellent" versus "bad" comments, posts, opnions.

      It does not help that 100% of Cable companies throttle our access to the Internet, can not wait to have Fiber...

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    9. Re:Good thing the editors don't read the stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could have made your point, without having to recurse to such a patently false equivalence.

    10. Re:Good thing the editors don't read the stories by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 1

      In what way is my 'equivalence' false?

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    11. Re:Good thing the editors don't read the stories by laddiebuck · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They've already taken down geocities, lycos, angelfire, whatever. People used to make sites and put their own content up. Today they don't seem to anymore, and I think the web is poorer for it. Luckily, I had recursively downloaded a couple of sites that had valuable info for myself, and archive.org has some, but the shift on all fronts (ditto usenet or forums) is towards fewer and bigger sites run by corporations instead of more, smaller sites run by individuals.

    12. Re:Good thing the editors don't read the stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think he is actually saying, "Your shit's all retarded and you talk like a fag."

    13. Re:Good thing the editors don't read the stories by BenoitRen · · Score: 1

      Fortunately, they can never stop the people who really want to make websites from finding another free service or paying for a hosting package.

    14. Re:Good thing the editors don't read the stories by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 1

      Ah, I see now you are correct. I shall cease being faggy immediately.

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  2. Re:Ummm. . . by DeadJesusRodeo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's a moron from Digg - this guys crap get's on it all the time.

  3. "the cloud" by circletimessquare · · Score: 1

    if i hear one more asshole talk about cloud computing, a renamed concept from the 1980s, i'll punch the douchebag in the face

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    1. Re:"the cloud" by MrEricSir · · Score: 4, Funny

      Are you kidding? Cloud computing can synergize your enterprise assets!

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    2. Re:"the cloud" by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Are you kidding? Cloud computing can synergize your enterprise assets!

      Bah! I guess it's not even object oriented!

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    3. Re:"the cloud" by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Sodomize your enterprise assholes?!

    4. Re:"the cloud" by roman_mir · · Score: 3, Funny

      but can it utilize revolutionary interfaces to productize cross-media e-services to mesh extensible niches which helps to incubate end-to-end communities and to drive sticky functionalities while scaling collaborative systems in an effort to monetize open-source convergence?

      We are all about transitioning value-added web-readiness here.

    5. Re:"the cloud" by sourcerror · · Score: 1

      You mean it's a pain in the asset?

    6. Re:"the cloud" by ducomputergeek · · Score: 1

      Timeshare was a concept from the 1970's.

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    7. Re:"the cloud" by Lord+Ender · · Score: 1

      Really? In the 1980s I could call up any number of virtual servers on the fly for a few dollars per month?

      Sorry, but the computing trend being called "cloud computing" is real. It's not just a buzzword.

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    8. Re:"the cloud" by eclectro · · Score: 1

      Cloud computing can synergize your enterprise assets!

      Absolutely! Clouds can be a gas!

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    9. Re:"the cloud" by StuartHankins · · Score: 1

      I think I threw up in my mouth a little.

    10. Re:"the cloud" by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Visualize Open-Source Users"
      *shudder*

    11. Re:"the cloud" by sjames · · Score: 1

      OOOOOOO Kayyyyy Mr potty mouth, that'll be about enough of that!

    12. Re:"the cloud" by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

      I checked that site out. I think my fave buzzword phrase was "innovate turn-key bandwidth", though I read it as "innovate turkey bandwidth".

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    13. Re:"the cloud" by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      CRAP, that's my proprietary BUSINESS MODEL!

      Damn you, /., for revealing all that stands between our Intellectual Property value and the abyss of impossible to implement DRM scheme!

    14. Re:"the cloud" by Darkman,+Walkin+Dude · · Score: 1

      Bahaha, this round to me I think, Mr Mir.

    15. Re:"the cloud" by jo42 · · Score: 1

      Sodomize your enterprise assholes?!

      What do think they do on the golf course with their golf clubs and little white balls?

    16. Re:"the cloud" by PintoPiman · · Score: 1

      if i hear one more asshole talk about cloud computing, a renamed concept from the 1980s, i'll punch the douchebag in the face

      Okay, lets you and me start our own little web-based businesses. I'll use Amazon Web Services for mine. RDS for my database, EC2 to run the web servers, S3 for the images in my product catalog (with CloudFront for content delivery). You can avoid the cloud because the buzz-words bother you. Run your own server farm, replace your own HDDs when they go bad, handle your own AC and security and wiring. The fact of the matter is that AWS and other cloud-computing companies are making it far cheaper to start and scale a web-based business than it was a few years ago. That's enough of a game-changer that there ought to be a term for it. Cloud is okay by me, but I guess a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

    17. Re:"the cloud" by williamhb · · Score: 1

      But can it utilize revolutionary interfaces to productize cross-media e-services to mesh extensible niches which helps to incubate end-to-end communities and to drive sticky functionalities while scaling collaborative systems in an effort to monetize open-source convergence?

      We are all about transitioning value-added web-readiness here.

      Bah, these young pups who think they know management speak. Get off my leverage.

    18. Re:"the cloud" by Thanshin · · Score: 2, Funny

      but can it utilize revolutionary interfaces to productize cross-media e-services to mesh extensible niches which helps to incubate end-to-end communities and to drive sticky functionalities while scaling collaborative systems in an effort to monetize open-source convergence?

      We are all about transitioning value-added web-readiness here.

      A challenge!

      My new mission is to use each and every word in that post, during a meeting, before next friday.

    19. Re:"the cloud" by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      Smart move. Without a doubt you will be recognized as a high thinker and a shrewd strategist and promoted into a position of unstoppable power.

    20. Re:"the cloud" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the best argument for adopting cloud computing yet.

  4. I know one more by roman_mir · · Score: 2, Informative

    Does anyone else have this problem with /., when you push the 'reply' it shows the page with the text area that is one quarter of the width of the page? I am too lazy to check the CSS, but is this happening for everyone here right now, or is it settings dependent and on case by case basis? /. - we don't really need more /. One is enough for everyone.

    1. Re:I know one more by maxume · · Score: 2, Informative

      It is a feature of idle.

      Idle seems to be a marketing initiative that the editors resent, but they seem to be required to post to it.

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    2. Re:I know one more by corbettw · · Score: 5, Informative

      I think it's just a problem with the CSS on Idle. If you remove "idle." from the URL it uses the default CSS, and everything looks normal again. Almost annoying enough to see if there's a Greasemonkey script to replace the Idle CSS with normal CSS on the fly.

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    3. Re:I know one more by glavenoid · · Score: 1

      THANK YOU! Goddamn idle css is horrible

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    4. Re:I know one more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot itself is filled with so many bugs i can't even count them anymore.
      Each sub-domain has its own funny little quirks, whether it is broken browser bars, eternal loading, half-missing title bars on comment boxes, some random little icons that nobody knows what the hell they are for, some sort of strange "invisible" unclickable area over comment textareas on right sides, previews not being previews, etc

      I can't figure out for the life of me why this place has so many bugs like this still present. They have been here for a good while now.

    5. Re:I know one more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A thousand Thank Yous are not enough. Idle's broken css has annoyed me to no end for quite some time now.

    6. Re:I know one more by Ultra64 · · Score: 1

      Are you using IE6 or something? /. always renders fine for me in chrome, firefox and safari

    7. Re:I know one more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holy shit, I can read anon comments again.

      I don't know whether to thank you or curse you.

    8. Re:I know one more by ChefInnocent · · Score: 1

      I wish I could mod you +6. Your comment was one of the most informative comments I've seen. I can now click on low score comments without having to go to a separate page, then hitting the back button to be put at the top of the page wondering where I was at. I just figured it was the /. way to further discourage reading idle topics.

    9. Re:I know one more by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      I think it's just a problem with the CSS on Idle.

      Well, it's working as designed... the editors hated being told to make what became idle.

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    10. Re:I know one more by hitmark · · Score: 1

      interesting, it seems to also ignore my choice of the classic design, instead presenting me with something between classic and 2.0.

      not unlike the issue i have with the user area, where the list of comments i have made is in 2.0 form, and basically impossible to get working beyond the first page, while all the rest shows in classic.

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  5. Re:#1 On That list by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    Slashdot should be #1 on that list.

    Not necessarily. As usual our intrepid editorial staff did a total horseshit job of summarizing, describing, and likely reading, the article. The article is about webpages that don't need to be remade anymore in truth. It largely talks about all the craptacular new social networking sites that are all trying to copy each other for no good reason. So while slashdot doesn't have much of a reason to exist anymore, it isn't a new site either so it doesn't really apply.

    On the other hand the list does describe some of the "new" crap that has been added here recently...

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  6. Wait a minute by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 4, Insightful

    but I think that would eliminate half the web.

    You say that like that's a bad thing.

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    1. Re:Wait a minute by Minwee · · Score: 3, Insightful

      but I think that would eliminate half the web.

      You say that like that's a bad thing.

      I think the correct phrase is "but that would eliminate _only_ half the web".

    2. Re:Wait a minute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but I think that would eliminate half the web.

      You say that like that's a bad thing.

      If you cut the internet in half, it turns into two internets...like a starfish.

  7. Let me add #9 by maxwell+demon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Web sites which consist of a list of the top n things the author thinks are good, bad, useful, useless or whatever.

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    1. Re:Let me add #9 by mmkkbb · · Score: 1

      Hey now, The Oatmeal is generally a lot funnier.

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    2. Re:Let me add #9 by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      Awww. And I was going to add you to my list as the #8 most insightful thing I'd read today.

      Wait, did I say insightful? I meant "inciteful."

  8. 2 articles that don't need to be posted anymore by Rotten · · Score: 3, Informative

    1) "top 8 things" style articles
    2) articles about apple loosing stuff

  9. Re:Ummm. . . by ChrisMounce · · Score: 1

    Seconded. Even for Idle, this seems... out of place.

  10. I can't stop laughing by FedeTXF · · Score: 1

    I started reading it before noticing it was a webcomic.

    1. Re:I can't stop laughing by denis-The-menace · · Score: 1

      It's because it is true

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  11. Is slashdot becoming digg? by dawilcox · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I thought that slashdot was about "news that matters." Seriously.

    1. Re:Is slashdot becoming digg? by denis-The-menace · · Score: 1

      Yep, it's about $ and Digg-envy.

      I go to both.
      If I want a laugh and kids that cant speel => digg
      If I want interesting comment with people with a brain => Slashdot

      Idle on /. should be removed as it is redundant.

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    2. Re:Is slashdot becoming digg? by natehoy · · Score: 1

      This is "Idle", which you can easily filter out of your news page if you don't like useless stories (which pretty much describes "idle").

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  12. Re:#1 On That list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    "slashdot doesn't have much of a reason to exist anymore"

    So it follows that you don't either, correct?

  13. #4 Registering for an account by Stiletto · · Score: 3, Insightful

    #4 hits it out of the park. STOP making me register for your site! I already have hundreds of passwords--I don't need to remember another one from your crappy web site!

    1. Re:#4 Registering for an account by PyroMosh · · Score: 1

      I partially agree.

      While half the sites that require registration, don't actually have much of a valid reason for people to register, save for the owner hoping to get your email address for their mailing list, I would still rather create a unique logon than use facebook.

      I don't like facebook, myspace, aol, etc. I have accounts, technically, but they leave a bad taste in my mouth.

      For me:

      No login > Unique login > Facebook

    2. Re:#4 Registering for an account by EricWright · · Score: 1, Redundant

      You ever try to use a forum that didn't require registration? Within 24 hours, 95% of the posts are spam. While I don't LIKE keeping up with lots of logins for various forums, at this point they're a necessary evil.

    3. Re:#4 Registering for an account by Fnkmaster · · Score: 1

      Well there's this little problem, see. I am all for the concept of a cross-site single sign on solution that works everywhere. The problem is I'm not okay with "Facebook Connect", which is run by an abusive privacy intruding company with no respect for its users.

      Until you find another alternative, we're stuck with the current system.

    4. Re:#4 Registering for an account by vbraga · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Isn't OpenID a viable solutions? It seems to work for StackOverflow.

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    5. Re:#4 Registering for an account by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That doesn't have anything to do with the lack of registration. It has to do with the lack of a captcha. Registering is for harvesting your personal information to be sold. Captcha is what prevents bots from spamming you. Totally different things. Lots of sites have captchas but no registration process. I even heard of this one called slosh-dot, or was it slush-mot, or slash-got, something like that, that did this very thing.

    6. Re:#4 Registering for an account by AndrewNeo · · Score: 3, Informative

      There is another alternative. It's called OpenID, and it works great. Sites just need to implement it.

    7. Re:#4 Registering for an account by tepples · · Score: 1

      The problem is I'm not okay with "Facebook Connect", which is run by an abusive privacy intruding company with no respect for its users.

      I imagine that by "Facebook Connect" the author was implying federated identity systems in general, such as OpenID.

    8. Re:#4 Registering for an account by Fnkmaster · · Score: 1

      Right, I don't have a problem with OpenID. But I see tons of sites pimping the idea that I should log in with my Facebook credentials and relatively few saying "Log in here with OpenID!". A standard that very few people use yet isn't relevant.

    9. Re:#4 Registering for an account by toastar · · Score: 1

      You ever try to use a forum that didn't require registration? Within 24 hours, 95% of the posts are spam. While I don't LIKE keeping up with lots of logins for various forums, at this point they're a necessary evil.

      Not true my forum lasted almost 6 months before getting it's first spam, also it's 10,000th spam, both on the same day.

      So much for security through obscurity.

    10. Re:#4 Registering for an account by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1

      You ever try to use a forum that didn't require registration? Within 24 hours, 95% of the posts are spam.

      Which is why the gods made reCAPTCHA.

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    11. Re:#4 Registering for an account by 6Yankee · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, I had to sign up for a damned OpenID so I could register for StackOverflow...

    12. Re:#4 Registering for an account by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Two solutions to this:

      #1 - bugmenot.com
      #2 - mailinator.com

      I haven't used my real e-mail for a (useless) website in something like 7 years.

    13. Re:#4 Registering for an account by jandrese · · Score: 1

      If you're posting, I can see forcing a person to make an account. But a lot of forums these days want you to register to even view the posts. It's obnoxious, especially when you're only going there because someone linked to a post on it that solves some problem you have. Some tech support sites require you to set up an account before you can search their FAQ too, which is super obnoxious.

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    14. Re:#4 Registering for an account by Bad_Feeling · · Score: 1

      There is a solution to this:

      http://www.bugmenot.com

      Works great.

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    15. Re:#4 Registering for an account by williamhb · · Score: 1

      #4 hits it out of the park. STOP making me register for your site! I already have hundreds of passwords--I don't need to remember another one from your crappy web site!

      You mean you don't have a Google/Hotmail/Yahoo crap account used exclusively for registering one-time-only accounts on websites? Ah, a new web site I have to remember. Yes, Mr Web Registration Form, I really am McGurgle McCrap of 123 Sodoff St, Crapsville, honest guv...

    16. Re:#4 Registering for an account by tepples · · Score: 1

      If you have an account at Google, Yahoo!, AIM, Launchpad, or Facebook, you may already have an OpenID. See a list of other popular web sites that provide identifiers.

  14. Regarding #4 by herrvinny · · Score: 1

    I agree with most of them, but #4 (requiring users to register) is pretty much absolutely essential for a web site to have "stickiness": keeping the user coming back for more. How is a website supposed to customize itself to a specific user's tastes without having users first register?

    1. Re:Regarding #4 by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      How? Make registration optional. I notice that a lot of websites these days do just that: you can register login and customise the site to your taste, or you can post as a guest (not anonymously).

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    2. Re:Regarding #4 by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't know about you, but the more "sticky" a web site is the less inclined I am to give them my email address...

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    3. Re:Regarding #4 by hvm2hvm · · Score: 1

      use yopmail.com

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    4. Re:Regarding #4 by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      your stickyness only makes me give you a fake info and post it to bugmenot. Sticky websites are failures. I typically will find needed info in a "sticky" site and will copy and paste it onto another forum that is not sticky. Yes I steal your content and put it elsewhere BECAUSE of your slimeball login required.

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    5. Re:Regarding #4 by herrvinny · · Score: 1

      Well, I don't really see where your aggressive-sounding post is coming from, since I don't personally run any websites, it was just a casual observation. Just to point out though, you would post a website's content on another website's forum, a forum that would probably require registration anyway?

    6. Re:Regarding #4 by Lord+Ender · · Score: 1

      There is a difference between requiring registration and having optional registration.

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    7. Re:Regarding #4 by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1

      (requiring users to register) is pretty much absolutely essential for a web site to have "stickiness": keeping the user coming back for more.

      So, um, in order to keep me coming back for more, you're going to make me jump through hoops before I can use your site at all?

      Brilliant, that. "You can come into my store after you fill out this membership form." That works if you're Costco, but is not a good general business model.

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    8. Re:Regarding #4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Well, I don't really see where your aggressive-sounding post is coming from,...

      Methinks Lumpy is Grumpy.

  15. Re:#1 On That list by ciaohound · · Score: 1

    Damn straight. Slashdot relegated to the "Digg and Reddit clones"? Me and my six-digit ID say "No way."

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  16. Re:2 articles that don't need to be posted anymore by CannonballHead · · Score: 1

    2) articles about apple loosing stuff

    Bah, just as I was going to submit my article about Apple untying its shoes....

  17. Late _and_ Irrelevant! Win! by Dunx · · Score: 1

    OK, this story was in idle. Well done for pegging it right there. And I like the Oatmeal, so always happy to see it getting more exposure.

    But this strip was posted weeks ago. So not only should this not have been on the front page, but it should have not been on the front page a long time ago.

    What's next? Reposting every xkcd strip?

    Thanks for giving me another reason to drop /. from my RSS reader.

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    1. Re:Late _and_ Irrelevant! Win! by Sechr+Nibw · · Score: 1

      Dunno what RSS reader you use, but I just set up a rule in mine - if message content includes http://idle.slashdot.org/ then delete. Quite handy, if it works - here's hoping.

  18. Facebook instead ??? by hey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So there is no need to make signup because Facebook connect can do it.
    No need for a another status update side because Facebook can do it.
    No need for a "next facebook" because Facebook can do it.
    Wrong!

    Facebook is far from perfect. We should totally work on replacements.

    1. Re:Facebook instead ??? by jack2000 · · Score: 1

      How about no? Just stop with this facebook madness. Screw them.
      I'm sick and tired of facebook this and facebook that. Facebook login here and facebook widget of people liking the stupid page i'm on. GRRRRRRRR.
      I've put facebook.com^ in my damn adblock filter because of those people!

  19. Next article from theoatmeal.com by a2wflc · · Score: 1

    Comments that don't need to be made any more

    Does anyone else have this problem with /.

    Just assume the answer is yes

  20. Re:#1 On That list by bsDaemon · · Score: 1

    Me and my 5-digit ID say "I'm pretty sure we were here first..." does anyone use digg but xbox junkies and script kiddies (usually the same people)?

  21. The Oatmeal are hypocrites by AthleteMusicianNerd · · Score: 1

    One of the annoying sites they mentioned was having to create an account to do something once, then they linked to a stress relief spiel that made you do just that!

  22. My favorites... by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Website that make you log in to even view things.. WTF is that? A members only club that anyone can be a part of? You know how many of those sites have bugmenot logins? your site is a failure, stop being a power freak, You wont get my real email address anyways...

    A Website with those damned popups when you roll over a word... OMFG! I want to physically harm the guy that runs that site that has those.

    Sound of ANY KIND.. a pop up of your ugly face talking to me in flash? I dont think so. It's not neat, its not cool. It's dumb and makes me want to never go to your site again.

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    1. Re:My favorites... by COMON$ · · Score: 1
      Amen, loading up a story or a blog, listening to music and all of the sudden some damn advert screaming at me, the worst ones are the ones in a little corner of the screen. If they pop up at least I know where they are...

      As for the damn popups on the words...I have invented countless methods of torture for sites that propegate that...

      Word of advice to advertizers, if you are advertizing using any of the above methods...you are LOSING BUSINESS! Never have I heard someone go...man I would never have heard of your company if you didnt shout it at me or cover up the story I was reading....

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    2. Re:My favorites... by crow_t_robot · · Score: 0

      I totally agree with you. My employer really benefits from sites that require registration, though. Everytime I get to a site that requires me to register, I'm like "Fuck registering on this shit to read two paragraphs....I can go without" and end up going back to doing productive things. Thank you register-nazis for making me realize my priorities. CTR

  23. Re:2 articles that don't need to be posted anymore by xxdinkxx · · Score: 1

    What about an article about the top 8 things apple looses?

  24. Funny site... by Arkham · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm sure I've been living in a hole, but that site has some seriously funny stuff on it. Examples that made me actually laugh out loud:

    http://theoatmeal.com/comics/facebook_suck

    http://theoatmeal.com/comics/design_hell

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    1. Re:Funny site... by guspasho · · Score: 1

      It's funny because it's true. The Design Hell one is the reason I quit web design.

    2. Re:Funny site... by lee1 · · Score: 1

      View the source for super-secret fun joke.

    3. Re:Funny site... by Dynamoo · · Score: 1

      If you haven't heard of the Oatmeal.. then you HAVE been living in a hole. Or maybe not hanging around Facetube or Twigg enough or whatever they're called.

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  25. if only we could purge sites by greymond · · Score: 1

    It'd be great if there was a way to "purge" useless sites from the web...of course that's a pretty broad description there, perhaps purge "sites that dot he same thing as other sites but not as well" hmm...

    Can we just start the internet over?

    1. Re:if only we could purge sites by CannonballHead · · Score: 1

      What if some people like the other site that you, and perhaps even a majority of people, don't like/think it doesn't do as good a job?

      For example: Facebook. A lot of people like Facebook. What if a newcomer came along that was better but "didn't do it as well" (read: it doesn't have FarmVille!!!!) ... it comes up for a purge vote and 70% (those that use Farmville) vote that it's useless, 25% don't care, and 5% (Slashdot users) think it's better because of privacy reasons and because it is opensource.

      I don't like that idea. :)

      Personally, things like Yelp seem to offer a better alternative... sort of allowing [buzzword] crowd-sourcing [/buzzword] to "fix" certain aspects of the Internet while not at all hampering individual people from starting their own thing.

  26. Four reasons to register on an online store by tepples · · Score: 1

    While half the sites that require registration, don't actually have much of a valid reason for people to register

    Any online store has four reasons to let users create an account:

    1. put items on a wishlist in order to save them for buying later,
    2. put out-of-stock items on a wishlist in order to get e-mail when the product comes back in stock,
    3. see a list of orders that the user has placed while logged in, along with their tracking numbers, and
    4. see a list of orders that the user has placed using PayPal Express Checkout with an address that matches the user's verified e-mail address.
    1. Re:Four reasons to register on an online store by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1

      Any online store has four reasons to let users create an account

      Letting people create an account is not the issue. Forcing them to do so in order to complete an order, post a comment, or whatever, is.

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  27. Bad web sites by gurps_npc · · Score: 1

    The reason we have too many of these websites is quite simple - the existing versions suck. For example Facebook steals information/privacy (even info they previously contracted as never being given out). Dating web sites work great - for model types. But for the rest of us they suck.

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  28. Too many CAPTCHAs are inaccessible by tepples · · Score: 1

    Captcha is what prevents bots from spamming you.

    On a lot of sites, it's also what prevents legitimate users from contacting you if they happen to be using a speech browser.

  29. Dating? by ktappe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'd add dating sites

    Let me guess...you're married? Funny how as soon as one person's needs are met, they no longer see a need for anyone else to have access to services that would supply them similarly.

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    1. Re:Dating? by ChefInnocent · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think you missed the point. He's saying there is not a need for more dating sites. I was reading the other day that there is one for Apple fans. Why do we need a dating site that caters to Apple fans? Couldn't one just list it in the "looking for" box of plentyofish, Yahoo! Singles, Craigs List, or any one of the many other dating sites that already exist? When I was looking through the dating sites, I would have preferred fewer sites so I know where to look rather than having to register for 20 sites.

      Same thing with social networks. If I want to join one to keep up with someone, I don't want to have to register with 20 different flavors of social network sites. With regards to the news sites, it would be awesome if they all used the same login; didn't requirement to use different password rules or pick a new id because I can't remember my old password or someone else has my id.

      The point of the article wasn't to say these sites shouldn't exist, but there are just simply too many doing the same thing, and we don't need any more of X type.

  30. OpenID by tepples · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have a Launchpad account, which I use as my identifier on a few sites that take OpenID. But one problem in practice with OpenID is that a lot of web sites are OpenID providers (sites that issue identifiers to users) but not as many are relying parties (sites that accept other providers' identifiers). And what prevents a spammer from setting up an OpenID provider and generating an unbounded number of plausible identities?

  31. Re:#1 On That list by IANAAC · · Score: 1
    Truthfully, the same could be said of Slashdot.

    I actually like reading comments from people who really are lawyers, but how many "IANAL" comments spouting their truth - because they're modded up as such - do we need to wade through to get to them?

    Feel free to mod me down because "IANASA" (I Am Not A Site Administrator), so I don't really know what I'm talking about.

  32. that's by circletimessquare · · Score: 1

    thinking outside the box!

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    1. Re:that's by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      we just shrink the box, until our current thinking overcomes the natural physical boundaries of it.

    2. Re:that's by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      CRAP, that's my proprietary BUSINESS MODEL! Damn you, /., for revealing all that stands between our Intellectual Property value and the abyss of impossible to implement DRM scheme!

    3. Re:that's by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

      +set noclip 1

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  33. Why worry? by TwoScoopsOfPig · · Score: 0, Redundant

    ... but I think that would eliminate half the web

    And nothing of value was lost.

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    #include <beer.h>
  34. Subscription sites too by tepples · · Score: 1

    Website that make you log in to even view things.. WTF is that? A members only club that anyone can be a part of?

    Some of these sites even charge 10 USD for a 10-year subscription, such as Something Awful.

    Sound of ANY KIND

    Even sound that doesn't start until you activate the Play control?

    1. Re:Subscription sites too by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      Any sound that doesnt come from an explicit play/start/engage/makeitso button. Thou shalt not play audio unbidden!

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      Good-bye
  35. Nerdrage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Incoming nerd rage...

  36. Cloudy since the mainframe days by tepples · · Score: 3, Informative

    Really? In the 1980s I could call up any number of virtual servers on the fly for a few dollars per month?

    Cloud computing in the sense of buying time on a time-sharing computer system has been around since the mainframe days. Cloud computing in the sense of relying on an application service provider has also been around since the mainframe days.

    1. Re:Cloudy since the mainframe days by Lord+Ender · · Score: 0, Troll

      And you intentionally dodged my question. Telling.

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      A slashdotter who didn't build his own computer is like a Jedi who didn't build his own lightsaber.
    2. Re:Cloudy since the mainframe days by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, his answer is "Yes". Read his post again, but this time remember to turn on your brain and interpret the words he says.

      The only thing that has changed is the cost and payment method, something that has always changed and does not warrant a new buzzword.

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      "linux is just DOS with a UNIX like syntax" -- Galactic Dominator (944134)
    3. Re:Cloudy since the mainframe days by Lord+Ender · · Score: 1

      You are 100% wrong. Cost changing is what matters most. Perhaps you've heard of something called the industrial revolution? That's what happens when expensive things can be mass-produced cheaply.

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  37. How subtly insightful! by KingSkippus · · Score: 1

    Yes, you nailed the premise of this item exactly, directly relating the linked article to how seeing tired old cliches like posting, "Isn't this supposed to be a news site?" in every Idle post is so tedious.

    Good job, man, I hope others catch your ironic agreement with the post!

  38. Compromise for anonymous comments by tepples · · Score: 1

    Would an appropriate compromise be a blog or forum that allows unregistered users to post comments but delays such comments by at least one business day?

  39. I can think of a ninth by Subm · · Score: 1

    Reading that snarky page, I can think of a ninth type of page that doesn't have to be made.

    I guess they disagree, though, because they still made it

  40. Re:#1 On That list by narcc · · Score: 2, Funny

    The people with six-digit id's are greater in number. Someday, we will rise up and toss-off the shackles of oppression and servitude!

    You'll be the first with your back against the wall when the revolution comes.

  41. Sucky sites by InfoJunkie777 · · Score: 1

    I totally agree with the TFA poster. Especially all the social networking clones. I got a Myspace account a few years ago because a family member wanted me to see their page, and I could not until I created an account. Have not done anything to it since then. I finally broke down recently and created a Facebook account because all my friends have one. Now it is getting a bit crowded. And I am finding out a lot of stuff I did not want to know. So all the other clones of the social networking sites are completely unnecessary. I liked type #4, the sites where they force you get an account to post a comment on some story you came across, even though you probably will never visit the site again. That is why I have to have a Google document online of my 100 ID's and passwords, because I couldn't remember them without it. Also liked #7. Absolutely HATE sites with flash opening. Some sites are build entirely in Flash. So if you don't have it installed, like on the iPad, you're s**t out of luck.

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    Don't explain computers to laymen. Simpler to explain sex to a virgin. -- Robert A. Heinlein
  42. and no more search engines! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google says we don't need any more search engines either. They've already got our privacy covered.

  43. Re:#1 On That list by bsDaemon · · Score: 1

    I meant we as in Slashdot as a whole, as opposed to Digg. But, yeah, whatever else is good, too.

  44. "Article" writer is an Idiot by vlueboy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    1. Update sites
    2. Sharing sites
    3. Digg / Reddit clones
    4. Forced Registration sites
    5. Social Media sites
    6. Facebook clones
    7. Flash sites
    8. Web 2.0 sites

    1,2,3, 5, 6 and 8 are almost the same, and sadly, all here to stay. Business processes ($$$) that weren't moving the web 20 years ago will guarantee it. Pandora's box, people.

    I really expected a historical article about sites that are no longer, um, "socially vital" and have silently and mysteriously disappeared from the public eye.

    Here's better candidates: "Shrine" sites with old midi's and gifs (we have blogs now). Ring sites linking each other so you don't need to search to find related interests. Sites with downloads of quirky icon sets and mouse pointers.

    Sites that *should* also die because they're less usefull than those the TFA discusses: Perpetual domain parkers and typo squatters. Fake sites fishing for webcrawlers to point to thousands of other links, having no content themselves and adding noise to my searches. And I say to myself... "Good luck with THAT."

    1. Re:"Article" writer is an Idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For my list of extinct sites, I forgot "live webcam control" and "VRML sites."
      --vlueboy

    2. Re:"Article" writer is an Idiot by Zironic · · Score: 1

      The article writer said that we don't need any /more/ of those sites, he didn't say that the ones that already exist should die.

  45. Re:#1 On That list by notbob · · Score: 0

    And my even lower 5 digit id says "I totally agree with killing off all the clone websites... so I can
    1. build all my own clones
    2. ???
    3. PROFIT!"

  46. Autoplay on YouTube video pages by tepples · · Score: 1

    Any sound that doesnt come from an explicit play/start/engage/makeitso button.

    Say someone copies the play button's URL and pastes it into a link in an HTML document. Does it count as "clicking the play button" if you follow such a link?

    1. Re:Autoplay on YouTube video pages by jack2000 · · Score: 1

      You do know only a mad man would allow a button to be pressed just by following a url.

  47. Re:#1 On That list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You forgot potheads too, applies to reddit as well

  48. Re:Indeed by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 1

    Because unlike this site where any anonymous idiot can spout off after 2 clicks, making people jump through a few additional hoops eliminates much of this riff-raff.

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  49. Re:#1 On That list by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

    You mean Xbox junkies know how to use scripts? Amazing!

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  50. any more by Krymzn · · Score: 1

    There is no such word as "anymore".

    1. Re:any more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anymore

      HTH HAND

  51. Re:2 articles that don't need to be posted anymore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
  52. Re:#1 On That list by Mister_Stoopid · · Score: 1

    Oh yeah? Well me and my 7-digit ID say "lol slashdot is ok but it wud be better if more of the stories were funny pics of dogs~!"

  53. Yawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, they hate facebook. Big deal. This is crap, even for idle.

  54. Competition == good by marco.antonio.costa · · Score: 1

    The OP might believe that 'we got all we need', but it turns out we don't know what we need until someone comes up with it.

    Of course most startups are absolute trash, but so long as they do it with their money, we get all the benefit and none of the risk. :-)

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  55. Re:#1 On That list by nicknamesarefunny · · Score: 0

    The people with six-digit id's are greater in number. Someday, we will rise up and toss-off the shackles of oppression and servitude!

    You'll be the first with your back against the wall when the revolution comes.

    Spartans rise!!!!!!

  56. Re:#1 On That list by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

    Help! Help! I'm being repressed!

  57. "that would eliminate half the Web" by Anomalous+Cowbird · · Score: 1

    You say that like that would be a bad thing . . . .

  58. Is Moore's law a continuous revolution? by tepples · · Score: 1

    Every 18 months, the semiconductor industry shrinks the process to double the number of gates per square mm. So would you call each doubling a "revolution"?

  59. Re:Indeed by Alex+Belits · · Score: 1

    And this is why Something Awful is a home of intellectual giants, while the rest of the Internet is filled with people who spend hours participating in drama ans accusing each other of being a furry or pedophile.

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  60. Re:#1 On That list by Nethead · · Score: 1

    Get off my lawn, punk.

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