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The Hobbit On Hold

Flea of Pain writes "Director Guillermo Del Toro has confirmed upcoming Lord of the Rings prequel The Hobbit has been put on hold indefinitely because the movie has been caught in a 'tangled negotiation' over the future of the MGM movie studio. The film, based on J.R.R. Tolkien's first book in the fantasy series, was reportedly due to begin shooting this summer, but has been mired in delays. Lord of the Rings director Peter Jackson, who will act as producer on the new film, recently dismissed rumors of trouble with the picture, insisting, 'It's not really been delayed, because we've never announced the date.'"

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  1. Dang by 2names · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now what will I do?

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    1. Re:Dang by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Read the book.

    2. Re:Dang by 2names · · Score: 5, Funny

      There's a book?

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    3. Re:Dang by Low+Ranked+Craig · · Score: 4, Funny

      Now what will I do?

      Play Duke Nukem Forever

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    4. Re:Dang by DeadDecoy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ya, I think it's based off the cartoon.

    5. Re:Dang by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Funny

      Now what will I do?

      Play Duke Nukem Forever

      Not necessarily forever, he only has to play Duke Nukem until Hobbit will come into cinemas.

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    6. Re:Dang by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 4, Funny

      That was loosely based off the broadway show.

    7. Re:Dang by monoi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not an especially good one. And I say that as a Tolkien fan.

      If you're about ten (which I think was Tolkein's intended audience) then as I recall it's fantastic compared to the other books offered to you at that age.

    8. Re:Dang by UnknowingFool · · Score: 2, Funny

      There's a book?

      That was my first thought. Now you're gonna tell me there was a sequel. . .

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    9. Re:Dang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      That was based on the Leonard Nimoy song

    10. Re:Dang by nabsltd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I didn't like it much as a kid, either, preferring C.S. Lewis and Madeleine L'Engle. The story isn't especially thrilling, and there's a distinct impression that the writer is talking down to you.

      I never felt that, but it's still better than C.S. Lewis preaching to you.

    11. Re:Dang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      That can only be fully appreciated in the original Klingon.

  2. The next James Bond as well! by The-Pheon · · Score: 5, Informative

    Bond 23 has also been delayed because of MGM's legal issues. http://www.imdb.com/news/ni2143090/

    I was looking forward to seeing Mr. Craig shoot some guns, drive some fast cars, and flirt with some girls.

    1. Re:The next James Bond as well! by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My girlfriend likes him, but in her defense, she hasn't seen Connery, Moore, or anyone else for that matter.

    2. Re:The next James Bond as well! by h4rr4r · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There is no debate, the correct answer is Connery was the best Bond. It really is that simple.

    3. Re:The next James Bond as well! by syousef · · Score: 4, Funny

      I was looking forward to seeing Mr. Craig shoot some guns, drive some fast cars, and flirt with some girls.

      Teaches me not to read the subject line first. For a moment I was wondering what version of the hobbit you were referring to!!!!

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    4. Re:The next James Bond as well! by onkelonkel · · Score: 2, Funny

      All the really cool kids like George Lazenby.

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    5. Re:The next James Bond as well! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Vladimir Putin or as he seems to be called here Mr.Craig is close to the worst James Bond ever. James Bond is supposed to be cool, smart and this lug looks more like a Neanderthal and acts like one too.

      no - james bond became cool and smart as the stories progressed. he was most definately a neanderthal thug at heart in the books and daniel craig does an excellent job of portraying it.

    6. Re:The next James Bond as well! by acid_andy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, he has style in the books and sophisticated tastes and is cool at least in his state of mind. He's also handsome and has dark hair. Purely in terms of the look I think Brosnan actually came closest and Craig is furthest. Brosnan just had terrible scripts (with the exception of GoldenEye although that's still far from the best)!

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    7. Re:The next James Bond as well! by geekoid · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think it's a false comparison.
      Brosnan was at the last in a newest 'gadget' cycle of the series. Mr. Craig version he IS the weapon.

      The bond series gadgets cycle in there and back again.

      See what I did there?

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    8. Re:The next James Bond as well! by tool462 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Christopher Tolkien released an amended version of The Hobbit based on his father's notes and drafts.

      Apparently the elder Tolkien did a LOT of speed in his autumn years...

    9. Re:The next James Bond as well! by sconeu · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The funny thing is, Dalton may have been the worst film Bond, but he was probably truest to Fleming's vision of the character... world weary and burned out.

      The best film Bond, of course, is Sean Connery.

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    10. Re:The next James Bond as well! by sjbe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There is no debate, the correct answer is Connery was the best Bond.

      I don't have a favorite Bond actor though I can't say I liked Connery best in the role. He was fine as Bond, sort of defined it I guess, but I think others have done at least as well. I do have a least favorite (Roger Moore) and Connery did not star in my favorite Bond movies (Casino Royale and A View to A Kill) so if I don't like Connery's Bond movies the best it's hard for me to like him best in the role. Moore was generally annoying in the role, a little to smug and "perfect", and though I really liked A View to A Kill, I hated Moonraker and several others he was in. None of the guys who have been in the role have done a terrible job. Sometimes the directing or the script has sucked.

  3. "On Hold" by TopSpin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Given Jackson's track record with LOTR the Hobbit movies are worth a couple billion dollars in revenue. There is absolutely no possibility they won't get made. There have been several fits of "on hold" while the rights were negotiated with the Tolkiens. There will be more "on hold" moments while more parties wrangle for their cut. In the end it will make it to the screen because everyone, absolutely everyone, wants this.

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    1. Re:"On Hold" by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 5, Funny

      well, not really.

      I must say, your well thought out post in conjuction with the reserve you maintained during your rebuttle, has caused me to reconsider my stance on what I believe. The GP almost had me convinced, but you so eloquently countered his every notion, leaving your thoughts superior. Tell me good sir, how do I subscribe to your newsletter?

    2. Re:"On Hold" by interkin3tic · · Score: 4, Funny

      There is absolutely no possibility they won't get made.

      If it gets delayed until 2012, some would argue there's a very good possibility it won't get made regardless of how profitable it would be. Because that's when Sauron is prophesied to come back, and he has a really good legal team.

  4. Time is of the essence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They can't wait too long. Ian McKellen just turned 71.

  5. Re:Way back in the day, at summer camp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    an audience.

  6. They are waiting for copyright to expire in 2 by geekoid · · Score: 2, Informative

    years. The copy copyright was in 1937, 28 years, plus a possible 47 year extension. 75 years Max and assuming the filed properly.
    2012 it expires. Seems to me the Tolkien estate should suck whatever blood they can get from our culture now.

    The Renewal System
    Under the 1909 copyright law, works copyrighted in the United States before
    January 1, 1978, were subject to a renewal system in which the term of copyright
    was divided into two consecutive terms. Renewal registration, within strict time
    limits, was required as a condition of securing the second term and extending
    the copyright to its maximum length.
    On January 1, 1978, the current copyright law (title 17 of the United States
    Code) came into effect in the United States. This law retained the renewal
    system for works that were copyrighted before 1978 and were still in their first
    terms on January 1, 1978. For these works the statute provides for a first term of
    copyright protection lasting for 28 years, with the possibility for a second term
    of 47 years. The 1992 amending legislation automatically secures this second
    term for works copyrighted between January 1, 1964, and December 31, 1977.

    The Hobbit was published in 1937. It had to be extende withing 28 year. 1965 at the latest.
    The second extension is for 47 years. meaning the second, and final extension shoud ahve ended in 2007.

    note: If a copyright originally secured before January 1, 1964, was not renewed at
    the proper time, copyright protection expired at the end of the 28th calendar year
    of the copyright and could not be restored.

    Some of the first runs didn't even have a copyright mark, so one could argue the copyright is invalad. You would need to be a dick to argue that.

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    1. Re:They are waiting for copyright to expire in 2 by JimDarley · · Score: 5, Informative

      The US adopted the Berne convention in 1988, according to which:- "One important minimum rule was that the term of copyright was to be a minimum of the author's lifetime plus 50 years."

      According to Wikipedia, Tolkien died in 1973, that plus 50 years means that it'll be 2023 before the copyright expires.

    2. Re:They are waiting for copyright to expire in 2 by edjs · · Score: 2, Informative

      I don't believe the US was obligated to apply that to works created before they adopted the Convention.

      From my reading of the circulars below, The Hobbit would be copyrighted (in the US) until 2032. It would have expired in 2012 if they hadn't extended the term an additional 20 years in 1998.

      There is, of course, plenty of time to extend it further.

      Copyright Basics

      Duration of Copyright

  7. Jackson, overrated by TiggertheMad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    however, jackson did a good job with the trilogy.

    Elf shield surfing.
    Dwarf tossing jokes.
    Rewriting parts of the story to make it 'more exciting'.


    Let's just say that he did ok, hmmm?

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    1. Re:Jackson, overrated by geekoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And it was still better then anyone else could of done.

      It was a great Job. No, it wasn't perfect, but it was still an awesome movie that told the story.

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  8. Copyright expiration is all over the map by bgalbrecht · · Score: 2, Informative

    In life+50 countries like Canada, it will be 2024 (it becomes PD Jan 1 of the year after the 50th anniversary of the death), but in the US, since it was copyrighted under the rules in place then, with the extensions (geekoid forgot about the 20 year extension in 1998), the copyright will expire in 2033. In the UK and EU and many other countries where it is life+70, it will be PD in 2044. This is all assuming the terms aren't extended yet again.

  9. Re:thank goodness! by Culture20 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm glad they've put a stop to it too.

    Fucking Aragorn in the Hobbit. [...]

    I knew Bilbo lived alone and never married, and took a young hobbit into his underground home to be his ward, but I thought the Batman parallels ended there. And wasn't Batman really straight anyway? I thought that the "Batman is gay" thing was a joke. And Aragorn is in love with Arwen. No, no. None of this adds up at all!