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Sony To Launch First 3D PS3 Games On Friday
Stoobalou writes "Sony plans to show off the first 3D PlayStation 3 games in the UK on 10 June, with a retail launch on 11 June. If you were wondering why Sony is shutting down half the PSN today for maintenance, then wonder no more. We reckon the company's simply gearing up for the launch of the PlayStation 3's first stereoscopic 3D games. Unfortunately, many game developers are seemingly indifferent to the 3D revolution at the moment. In fact, EA CEO John Riccitiello reckons that it's going to be a good three years before 3D becomes a standard gaming feature. Riccitiello explained that there's a big difference between converting a game to run in 3D mode and properly developing it to take full advantage of the extra dimension."
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It's a shame there are no YouTube videos of this 3D game in action.
It's about time they start using their 3D graphics hardware. I'm pretty tired of 2D platformers. You can only take so many Castlevania Symphony of the Night sequels. I'd been wondering if the system could even DO polygons and 3D stuff, given the total absence of 3D games. I just don't see how Sony has done so well with a 2D-only system.
Sony plans to show off the first 3D PlayStation 3 games in the UK on 10 June
That's weird. I've had 3D games on my PS3 for years. Even had them on the PS2 as well.
... and then they built the supercollider.
Does this mean the producers of Clash of the Titans can rush in some crappy 3D DLC to go with their crappy rushed movie 3D as well?
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the 3-D adventures of world-runner (by square) on the NES already had this feature, just press Select button.
And IIRC, it wasn't the only game on the NES to showcase 3-D.
And does anyone wonder why it's been mostly forgotten?
We aren't cut out for 3D, we only have 2 x 2D. Hype :P
It'll be a 3D side scroller. With a rootkit.
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Until they develop 3D that doesn't require wearing special glasses, I for one have absolutely no interest in this technology.
Those game used a trick to make your brain think stuff looked in 3D when in reality they are all flat. Now they want to gear up to be able to send *stereoscopic* signal to a TV, which is another trick to make your brain seeing a 3D image by sending two different image to the right and left eye. This is theoretically better than the trick 3D we have on 2D TV since actually the eyes are really seeing different perspective. In other word Sony climb up on the 3D TV bandwagon.
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* PAIN: The stereoscopic 3D content will include the Downtown area and tutorial along with three modes, including two new modes created specifically with stereoscopic 3D in mind, Alien Toss and Ice Breaker.
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I haven't been a fan of the whole 3D TV thing, but I could really get into 3D video games. For that, I'd wear the silly glasses.
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Stereoscopic imaging is not real 3D. It doesn't allow you to change the focal point. That's why stereoscopy is fatiguing. Also, you can't change your point of view. Yes, there are some kludgy workarounds like head-tracking or displays that work like lenticular images. Still, it's not the same as real 3D.
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It is exactly what we were gaming for years. The gimmick of adding perspective and focus to an image is as far as we can get to 3d in a flat screen. As long as both eyes receive the same image, of course.
The only new thing here is that they are trying to sell these so-called 3d screens. And you know what is their innovation? It's called interleaving. They show one image for each eye, with the old pal flicker.
Try attaching a 3d blu-ray to a 2d tv set. You will see both images, one after the other. Both with half the original resolution.
No, thanks. My current tv is good enough. I don't need to split its image and get a headache just for sony to release a new 3d hd screen in five years, with less flickering.
"If you were wondering why Sony is shutting down half the PSN today for maintenance, then wonder no more. We reckon the company's simply gearing up for the launch of the PlayStation 3's first stereoscopic 3D games."
I don't see how graphics-rendering technology requires an overhaul of the network. The third dimension doesn't require more bandwidth.
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Do we now get the same kind of games that we have in movies? I.e. completely content-free, riding entirely on the "IN 3D!!!" ticket?
Are we going to get games that HAVE to use that 3D feature whether it makes sense or not, as it's been done far too many times with whatever gimmicky new technology was the fad of the day, from the advent of easy three dimensional rendering (in all seriousness, did we really want to have that "free 3D movement" in SimCity-ish strategy games?), to the Wii controller that made sense in maybe 10% of the games that tried to use it as the input device?
I hope and pray that they manage to keep the feature sensible and it doesn't get abused as the latest fad gimmick to replace content.
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Between this new 3D glasses tech, and the Sega Master System 3D glasses?
Besides the fact it runs on twice the frame rate and the lack of wire of course.
...the game is in Stereo 3D. Had it for months, looks amazing on the 46" JVC 3D TV we have in the office...
Well as long as I don't have to buy another flatscreen TV for this.... has anyone noticed 3D TVs cost upwards of $3,000? Add a 3D blue ray player for another $350.... I think 3D in gaming can be cool.... the price is just outrageous.
yawn. I was playing quake 2 and 3 on pc with nvidia lcd shutter glasses 10 years ago.
Well, you see, Sony has done it again, and proved they just don't get it.
Nintendo has managed to build a system which appeals to everyone from aged 2 to 102 with the Wii.
Why? Because its accessible.
Guess what? If people start developing games that NEED 3d, then they are going to lose a significant portion of the population that can't see 3d images, a lot of those folks over 70 who don't have full vision in both eyes... anyone who might have any sort of vision problems that prevents them from seeing in 3D will not be able to play games that are specifically designed for 3D.
Has Sony forgotten that stereoscopic glasses dim the image by 50%, cut the frame rate in half, and give most users a massive headache? Then there's the point that anyone without glasses can't look anywhere in the direction of the TV without getting vertigo. This has fail written all over it.
The problem that past stereoscopic stuff has had is that it was based on the red/blue anaglyph techniques which suck. Even at the best of times, it still messes with colour and doesn't give all that convincing an image. So while it was toyed with, it was never really used much. Also games had to be specially designed to do the 3D. Since they were just sprite based, you had to take the time to implement whatever 3D effects you wanted in a game.
The new 3D technology does it with high speed shuttering. Each eye is shown 60 fps, out of phase with the other eye, so 120fps total. Net effect is a slight loss in brightness but no colour or other problems. Works pretty well. Also essentially all games are 3D now. They all use the 3D rendering of the GPU/console. Because of this, because they are storing Z data anyhow, there's little to no change that needs to be made to make them work with shutter glasses. Occasionally there's one that has problems, but by and large they all work out of the box.
nVidia played around with it some back in the CRT days, but the problem was refresh rate. You needed insanely high refresh (100Hz absolute minimum, 120Hz realistically) to eliminate the appearance of flicker and few monitors could handle it. Also video cards got easily over loaded by having to produce double the number of frames.
Now however video cards are more powerful, and some LCDs can pull 120Hz, so it is more feasible.
All in all I still think it is likely to be a passing fad because it still requires glasses, and requires them for all viewers. If I'm watching a 3D movie or playing a 3D game, anyone who comes in to the room is going to see a blurry mess on the TV unless they also wear glasses. Makes it less usable in many situations.
We'll see though, it is for sure better than anything in the past.
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So they upped the bust size of the Dead Or Alive chicks from double D to triple D? I mean thats great and everything, but do you really need to shut down the psn and get your network ready for triple D's?
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I don't think even the content providers or hardware manufacturers think of 3D as an "all-or-nothing" situation. The truth is that, for all of the people for whom current 3D tech doesn't work or simply those who don't care for it, there are a great many who enjoy the extra kick that WELL-DONE 3D can bring to entertainment. Like any extra layer that is added to original content, it can be utilized poorly. 3D is far-more-complicated to successfully implement than the majority of content providers realize. The down side is that, if it's done exceptionally poorly, it can cause people to puke. We're currently in a learning phase when it comes to 3D. Yes, stereoscopy has been around since the 1800s. However, it has just reached the point whereby moving images can be shown with next to no distracting flicker, improved polarization technology, and relatively inexpensive hardware. That's why I think 3D has the potential to be around for a while, as opposed to the brief spurts we had in the 1950s and 1980s. Yes, I'm a fan. I'm also a realist in that I know that 3D isn't effective or proper for every form of visual entertainment. I think it has great potential for gaming and am excited to see how it is used. I think it can be fantastic for films where a primary aspect is visual impact. That said, there is never a need for MY DINNER WITH ANDRÉ: 3D or SOLITARE: EXTREME 3D. Content providers know that, as well. Sure, we'll see plenty of releases that have 3D tacked on for no other reason than the money men insist upon it or the creators of the content are incompetent. Eventually, though, I think things will settle down and 3D will find its place as an option for those who wish to take advantage of it. I don't think it will ever be pushed as a complete alternative to 2D, nor do I think we'll see games or films released solely in 3D, unless the structure of the game or the nature of the film demands it. There are far-too-many potential customers who aren't fans of 3D. The content providers know this. They aren't about to alienate such a large potential source of income. I think 2D and 3D can live together quite happily together. There is always the chance that any number of factors such as bad marketing, a glut of awful content, high cost, or Pokémon seizures could sink 3D in the home. I just don't think it should be automatically dismissed by those who dislike it. It will be interesting to see how it pans out.
Meh. Meh says it all.
Unfortunately, many game developers are seemingly indifferent to the 3D revolution at the moment
Why is that unfortunate?
Like most gamers, I couldn't care less about 3D.
Unless your idea of a game is, guess how many meters away this pole is
They have a whole channel on cable TV about such a game.
I have a feeling that 3D is catching on in the consumer world a whole lot slower than big corporations are thinking it is (or they know it and are just trying to make it sound popular so more people will buy = profit). Personally, I don't care to pay tons more for a technology that (in my opinion) doesn't add anything real to gameplay (just changing the graphical effect) and makes my eyes/head hurt after 2 straight minutes of gameplay instead of 2 hours
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The main problem with 3D stereoscopic gaming is that current console hardware can't push the polygons required for it. With stereoscopic 3D, you need a 120 hz. TV. Your console needs to put out 120 fps so that the TV can send 60 fps * 2 (60fps to each eye). When most console games now are struggling to push 30 fps, what makes you think they can get to 120 on the same hardware?
This means the quality of the 3D games will be abysmal. Developers have no choice but to put out dumbed down games if they want to target 3D. Give it about 5 years and another console generation and we might have something worth playing. Or, try it on PC. Either way, it's at least one console generation away from mainstream adoption.
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We aren't cut out for stereo, we only have 2 x mono. Hype :P
These aren't even the first PS3 games to support stereoscopic 3D with 3D-capable TVs. That honor goes to Invincible Tiger: The Legend of Han Tao, an entirely forgettable side-scrolling beat-em-up.
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... of the 10 or 20 people who will get to play these games in stereoscopic 3D.
It's trolling to say that people will mod you for making a joke about this (when I actually was modded troll for doing the exact same thing as this poster)? And yet he got modded insightful...
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Normally I would have been an early adopter for something like this. I have lots of money Sony, you won't get a penny more from me.
TFA mentions "Mr. Pain" as one of the 3D PS3 games. I hope they mean PAIN, a PS3-only game. PAIN and Burnout Paradise are the two reasons I purchased a PS3. I already have a 120Hz TV, so I guess it"s just the glasses and the 3D version of the game?
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