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Harry Reid Pushes Nevada As "Saudi Arabia of Geothermal Energy"

An anonymous reader writes "Of all the 'mainstream' forms of renewable energy, it seems that geothermal power is always left in the shadows compared to solar and wind power. However, that looks set to change with news that the US Department of Energy will fund geothermal projects in northwestern Nevada and southeast Oregon. With funds from the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act, the DOE has stated a 'conditional commitment' to provide a partial guarantee for a rumored $98.5 million loan to the Nevada Geothermal Power Company (NGP). According to US Senator Harry Reid, 'Northern Nevada is the Saudi Arabia of geothermal energy.'"

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  1. According to US Senator Harry Reid ... by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... that kind of kills it for me. Any politician making such proclamations must be taken with a pound of salt. Wasn't Nevada also proclaimed as the dumping ground for nuclear and toxic waste?

    1. Re:According to US Senator Harry Reid ... by e9th · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Reid, the Senate Majority Leader, is in danger of losing his long-held seat. He needs the pork badly, and the administration is more than willing to help him out.

    2. Re:According to US Senator Harry Reid ... by Radres · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wouldn't senators then be forced to take actions that benefit those in the house, thereby corrupting the system in a different way?

      "You voted against all my bills! I'm not voting for you!"

    3. Re:According to US Senator Harry Reid ... by iluvcapra · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The senators would be appointed by their state legislatures in a manner that's up to them -- in the 19th century the state legislature would hold a vote, or the governor would make an appointment subject to state senate advice and consent, or whatever.

      The problem with this approach was that it made senate seats a form of patronage for governors and state political machines, and while the people appointed might have been worthy there was zero democratic accountability, and senate appointment was a notoriously corrupt institution -- take the recent Rod Blagojevich nonsense and imagine it were the norm. Eliminating the direct election of senators in order to control "pork" or earmarks, which are themselves only about 2% of the federal budget, and are at least as big a problem with House members, is a pretty extreme solution.

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    4. Re:According to US Senator Harry Reid ... by Ex-MislTech · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think he means the funds going into his golden parachute that will not
      be on the table, but under the table.

      There are private dinners and payoffs are not made with checks
      or credit cards, untraceable unofficial money.

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    5. Re:According to US Senator Harry Reid ... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1, Insightful

      What's crazy about letting a county decide if it wants to fluoridate it's own water source? What's crazy for scaling back the US Government to its constitutional limits (getting it out of Education)? What's wrong with pulling out of an ineffectual world body that's really good at spending our money and writing strongly worded letters?

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    6. Re:According to US Senator Harry Reid ... by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The Washoe County Commission in 1992 rejected fluoridation, and Angle said the Legislature should not approve fluoridation in her county without a vote of its people.

      All that indicates to me is that she supports checks and balances between state and local governance, not that she opposes fluoridation.

      Her website itself plainly states she wants to eliminate the department of education and social security.

      Does that mean she's philosophically opposed to education and safety nets for the poor, or -- more likely, I think -- does it mean she supports decentralization of government (i.e., where the state or local governments would control education and provide social safety nets)?

      I don't know anything about this person beyond what I've just read in this thread (and not being a citizen of Nevada, I don't particularly care), but she sounds merely like a supporter of [federalism|checks and balances|states' rights], not a crackpot.

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    7. Re:According to US Senator Harry Reid ... by pgmrdlm · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Just like Fox news is not a valid source to link to because it is pure republican bull shit. So is the mother fucking huffingtonpost.com. Its the liberal view wrapped in a different name http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Huffington_Post

      The Huffington Post, also referred to as HuffPo[2] or HuffPost[3], is a liberal/progressive American news website and aggregated blog founded by Arianna Huffington, Kenneth Lerer, and Jonah Peretti, featuring various news sources and columnists.[4] The site offers coverage of politics, media, business, entertainment, living, style, the green movement, world news, and comedy, and is a top destination for news, blogs, and original content. The Huffington Post was launched on May 9, 2005, as a commentary outlet and alternative to conservative news websites like the Drudge Report.[5]

      Don't be a fucking hypocrite. If your going to provide a link, try to find an unbiased link. IN other words, your link is bull shit. Not a valid source. Next

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    8. Re:According to US Senator Harry Reid ... by chapstercni · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You say "eliminating the US Department of Education" like it is a bad thing!

      I'm all for it.
      I'm for pulling out of the United Nations.
      I'm for getting rid of Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare.
      Floridation of water? Debatable. But, a local gov't issue.
      Alcohol? Local issue.
      Global warming? It IS still being debated. And then, not proven that it is man-made warming.
      Drilling for oil? Please, lets! I am for keeping dollars in the USA, instead of being sent overseas.
      Really, the States Rights vs. Federal Rights is the pivotal issue.

      In the words of Thomas Jefferson, whom helped found the USA.
      ""Most codes extend their definitions of treason to acts not really against one's country. They do not distinguish between acts against the government, and acts against the oppressions of the government. The latter are virtues, yet have furnished more victims to the executioner than the former, because real treasons are rare; oppressions frequent. The unsuccessful strugglers against tyranny have been the chief martyrs of treason laws in all countries." --Thomas Jefferson: Report on Spanish Convention, 1792. "

      http://etext.virginia.edu/jefferson/quotations/jeff0300.htm

    9. Re:According to US Senator Harry Reid ... by nedlohs · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you want more democracy, you want the Senate to make the filibuster extremely rare, instead of the current Republican practice of filibustering every single Democratic bill, which changes the Constitution's majority (50%+1) requirement into a forced supermajority of 60+.

      Why is a majority threshold "more" democratic than a supermajority theshold?

  2. The problem with geothermal by overshoot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    is that unlike wind and solar, it's always on. This makes it much more difficult to explain why it won't meet baseline demand.

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  3. Naturally by Pojut · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Of course it is. Since it's your state, Mr. Reid, it couldn't possibly be anywhere else, right?

    That's one of the things I always hated about politicians. They always think their state is the best at ::insert arbitrary thing here::. I got news for you, bud: it's America. Hardly anything here is the best. A lot of it is very good, some of it is even awesome, and some things are even legendary in how amazing they are...but I think saying best is generally pushing it.

    -American who loves his country, which is why he can be honest about it

  4. Geothermal energy ignored? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Only if you've never been to Iceland (everything is expensive there except electricity and hot water).

  5. Geothermal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Geothermal isn't really that renewable!

  6. Re:Las Vegas... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    What Turnip Truck did YOU just fall off of?

    There are Prostitutes all over Vegas.

    Just because it's "illegal" in Clark Co., doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

  7. If the Yellowstone Caldera goes... by voss · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Earthquakes in San Fransisco will be the least of your worries. The last eruption of the Yellowstone caldera 640,000 years ago
    shot 240 cubic miles of rock and dust into the sky.

  8. Hot Rocks by EEPROMS · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Actually when it comes to Geothermal energy production you don't actually need volcanic activity at all. Another method of collecting and converting geothermal energy is the hot dry rocks (HDR) method. The advantage with HDR is that you dont have to install power converters in geologically unstable environs like in iceleand etc thus you can imagine the insurance costs are way lower.

  9. You may have missed the memo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The Burglar Class runs our nation now. See, as one minor example, this excellent narrative of the highly profitable takedown of Bear Sterns and Lehman Bros (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/12697/64824). This means that no measures that actually would diminish the role of money as the prime determiner of national outcomes will be allowed to be passed, or if passed, enforced. It's over. Change will happen only when we crash hard against the wall of reality, after which perhaps some will be able to make something of the fragments. Reality is not of the opinion that money = merit. And as a consequence, we and the other kleptocracies are going down. Changing direct election of senators is only a minor rearrangement of deck chairs. It's nothing more than a shiny object offered to keep attention directed at the delusion.

  10. Re:Las Vegas... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Saudi Arabia used to be a country, now it has become an adjective.

  11. Yes, I am by twoallbeefpatties · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...then you're going to be mighty shocked at how many crazy people there are.

    Oh, believe me - I AM shocked by how many crazy people there are.

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