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Tesla IPO Raises $226 Million

An anonymous reader writes "Tesla, which will trade under TSLA on Nasdaq, has been priced at $17 per share, allowing the electric car start-up to raise more than $226 million in its IPO. Investors were expecting the share price target range to be between $14 and $16 but the overflow of excitement saw Tesla increase the number of shares it plans to offer to 13.3 million, nearly 20 percent more than originally planned." Reader hlovy contributes a link from Xconomy.com summarizing the skepticism among some analysts as to how much staying power TSLA will demonstrate.

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  1. Curious Guests at the IPO Celebration by eldavojohn · · Score: 3, Funny

    Today Elon Musk, CEO of Tesla Motors, was seen shaking the robotic arm of a submersible BP robot at the IPO celebration ...

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  2. Re:Nearly 20 percent more than originally planned by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Seems investors were fully charged.

  3. That's a reversal by Mad-Bassist · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I distinctly remember them saying a few years ago they didn't want to go public with the company so they'd retain complete control.

    Maybe this is a good thing to grow the company, but will being beholden to the stockholders be a problem down the road?

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    1. Re:That's a reversal by ImABanker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My guess is that the company weighed the merits of continuing to exist against the issues of giving up control. They've lost over $250MM over the last few years and are probably still looking at a few years of losses ahead of them; that money has to come from somewhere. It might as well be public shareholders.

    2. Re:That's a reversal by Yvan256 · · Score: 2, Funny

      will being beholden to the stockholders be a problem down the road?

      I see what you did, there.

  4. Re:Stock price already increased by SLot · · Score: 3, Funny

    Clearly, many people don't remember pets.com

  5. IPO: It's Probably Overpriced, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
    With the IPO at $17, and with it now trading at $20.50, some 20% higher than the already-raised IPO price, it really is probably overpriced.

    What makes TSLA an interesting business proposition (although not, for me, at $20+) is that if (and it's a huge "if") they can get production up and running in a timely fashion, they really do stand to reform the auto industry.

    The old model - manufacturers sell to dealers, and dealers sell to end users, but the dealers are franchisees who actually have no real relationship with the manufacturer. Your GM dealer sucks? Your GM dealer's mechanic sucks? It all reflects poorly on GM, and what's worse (from GM's point of view) is that all the short-term gains made by shady dealers and overpriced service departments go to the dealer, not to GM. Dealerships are profit centers for the dealer, but often breakeven or even loss centers for the manufacturer.

    Tesla's model is new to the auto industry: manufacturer sells direct to consumer, and also owns the distribution network and the service departments. That's nothing new in high tech: Apple's made a fortune using that model. The "Apple Store" gives a retail presence, but the guy at the Apple Store doesn't really care whether you buy the thing on the spot or go back home and buy it through the website.

    Applying that model to cars is interesting - and potentially groundbreaking. In the case of the Big Three, the dealer networks were an albatross around the neck of the auto manufacturers. If Tesla's model works, Telsa won't need a network of thousands of independent dealerships, because the only function of the dealerships will be to provide test drives and occasional servicing. Dealerships will be profit centers, not loss centers, for the manufacturer.

    1. Re:IPO: It's Probably Overpriced, but... by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The Model S doesn't compete against a Yaris. It competes against the BMW 5 series and the Mercedes E class. You're not the target market.

      Disclaimer: I own a Roadster, have a $5k down payment on a Model S, and bought a couple thousand shares of TSLA this morning.

    2. Re:IPO: It's Probably Overpriced, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Guys, I can buy a base-model Chevy Aveo for $9,000 new, or I can buy a Ferrari F458 for $200,000. I don't understand how Ferrari can compete.

    3. Re:IPO: It's Probably Overpriced, but... by FooAtWFU · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Tesla's innovative organizational structure won't be enough to save them if their cars are a flop, though - and sure, the Roadster is a cool car and could be construed as being ahead of the competition so far, but it's also expensive, the batteries suffer from massive depreciation, and the economy's not looking spectacularly hot right now. Moreover the regular automakers aren't really that far behind (a plug-in hybrid Prius would be a perfectly reasonable substitute for the normal-consumer-oriented version of the Tesla technology).

      There's a lot of optimism priced into the stock right now. I wouldn't expect them to go out of business in the next couple of years or anything, and I might pick up a few shares if it gets down to $10-$12 or so, but a $22/share price sounds way too optimistic for my liking. I'd wait for the headline-buzz to fade a little before pouring too much money into it.

      Telsa is not GOOG. Automobiles are a capital-intensive business.

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    4. Re:IPO: It's Probably Overpriced, but... by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So ultimatley the target market appears to be people with more money than sense; which obviously exists, but I doubt it's large enough to sustain a company like Tesla.

      Right. Because if you've got tons of cash you're going to drive a Yaris because the TCO is low. Fark no. You're going to drive a nice ride. You can have sense, cash, and still want a high-end car. It's not an investment.

    5. Re:IPO: It's Probably Overpriced, but... by westlake · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Tesla's model is new to the auto industry: manufacturer sells direct to consumer, and also owns the distribution network and the service departments. That's nothing new in high tech: Apple's made a fortune using that model.

      One difference is that Apple's exposure in a recall is limited to the replacement cost of a small household appliance.

      It doesn't have to "service" anything.

      Tesla has a $100K Roadster and a $65K Model S sedan in the works.

      That implies a full-scale luxury dealer showroom and auto repair garage. Not a niche in the Galleria Mall.

    6. Re:IPO: It's Probably Overpriced, but... by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm sure that will be a factor for people who already own one when the price of gas starts to shoot up. But I think it's more than "green" is coming along for the ride. Buy a nice luxury car with kick-ass acceleration and be able to make a (barely plausible but hey) claim to being "environmentally conscious"? Take that, Joneses!

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    7. Re:IPO: It's Probably Overpriced, but... by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 4, Informative

      Because, clearly, I have nothing better to do than show off on Slashdot. I put money down on the Model S because I like the car, I bought stock in Tesla because I believe in the company. That's not flashy, that's just putting your money where your mouth is. The disclaimer was simply to point out my bias.

    8. Re:IPO: It's Probably Overpriced, but... by SleazyRidr · · Score: 2, Informative

      Because, when you go up to your rich friends and say 'check out my new BMW 5 series', they'll say, 'cool it's just like mine!'

    9. Re:IPO: It's Probably Overpriced, but... by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      After I saw your post I decided to check the stock price (thanks!). 2120 shares bought at $18.43 and the stock is already at $23.89. Not a bad day.

  6. Isn't that half... by ducomputergeek · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What the company got in the form of government loan from the stimulus package (seems like $544M was the number I remember of the top of my head). Also, isn't the CEO about broke?

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    1. Re:Isn't that half... by sunking2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      More like tied up to hide it from his soon to be ex wife :)

  7. pessimism about EV cars or Tesla as a company? by sshir · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think Warren Buffett said that as a rule companies which pioneered most revolutionary technologies, those which changed our lives in profound ways, didn't make money for original investors... Especially in transportation (think airlines, car companies etc.)

  8. Re:Stock price already increased by qortra · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Are you seriously comparing the quintessential .com bubble site to a profitable and innovative car company? Just because their stock price is increasing on opening day doesn't mean that they're about to burst.

    For instance, take - Google's stock. There were a multitude of pundits and "experts" claiming that their $100 IPO price levels were totally unsustainable. They looked pretty stupid when the price doubled in 6 months. Sure, Tesla is no Google, but don't imagine that their stock price is guaranteed plummet just because there is a lot of excitement surrounding their IPO.

  9. Good for them by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have to admit though I'm a little disappointed they didn't get the stock ticker COIL.

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  10. Re:Waiting by tompaulco · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Maybe the Vulture Capitalists turned them down, or offered them the usual stranglehold deal that vulture capitalists are famous for.

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  11. Only One Thing I Dislike About Tesla Motors... by damn_registrars · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Their cars run on DC motors (or at least get power from a DC source). Yet the company is named after a man who is acknowledged as the father of the alternating current (at least in the US).

    Otherwise I think they have a fine product (although I cannot afford it) and I hope them well. Furthermore if the company name helps to make Nikola Tesla better known in this country, I think that would be great as I view Tesla as amongst the greatest scientists to ever work in the US.

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    1. Re:Only One Thing I Dislike About Tesla Motors... by Thelasko · · Score: 4, Informative

      Their cars run on DC motors (or at least get power from a DC source). Yet the company is named after a man who is acknowledged as the father of the alternating current (at least in the US).

      Only the batteries are DC. The motor is AC and driven by an inverter in the car's Power Electronics Module.

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    2. Re:Only One Thing I Dislike About Tesla Motors... by nido · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Only One Thing I Dislike About Tesla Motors... Their cars run on DC motors (or at least get power from a DC source). Yet the company is named after a man who is acknowledged as the father of the alternating current (at least in the US).

      /methinks Tesla himself would be disappointed that "Tesla" Motor's cars require batteries, when his Black Magic Touring Car ran on free energy delivered through a "dozen vacuum tubes -- 70-L-7 type -- and other electrical parts".

      Around the turn of the century Tesla concluded that it would be possible to transmit electrical power without wires. To optimise results, he chose to experiment at high altitude, where the air was thinner and therefore more conductive. As a result he ended up building a research laboratory in Colorado Springs where he conducted some of his most extraordinary experiments; tests that even to this day are shrouded in mystery. Tesla theorised that unlimited amounts of power could be transmitted anywhere on earth, without wires and with virtually no loss of energy. It is not clear exactly how he intended to do this, but right up until the end of his life he maintained that it was quite possible and that he only needed sufficient funds to make it a reality.

      The funds however were not forthcoming, and Tesla was eventually forced to abandon his Colorado experiments in what was to become a recurrent feature in his life; no money or insufficient finance to pursue an idea . . . but a constant stream of new ideas.

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    3. Re:Only One Thing I Dislike About Tesla Motors... by OzPeter · · Score: 4, Funny

      Only the batteries are DC.

      Well its been a while since I have seen any AC batteries, so I guess that's why they went with the DC ones.

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    4. Re:Only One Thing I Dislike About Tesla Motors... by evilviper · · Score: 2, Informative

      Their cars run on DC motors (or at least get power from a DC source). Yet the company is named after a man who is acknowledged as the father of the alternating current (at least in the US).

      Tesla had many accomplishments. While AC is an important one, so is radio communications, and the like. Some of his accomplishments are in the DC realm, at least due to having worked for Edison early in his career.

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    5. Re:Only One Thing I Dislike About Tesla Motors... by SnarfQuest · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He was also nuttier than a Snickers bar. He had several impressive inventions, but in his "normal" life, he did many strange things.

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  12. Re:Waiting by Nadaka · · Score: 2, Funny

    Its pretty damn hard to get a venture capitalist to hand over a quarter billion dollar for anything less than your eternal soul plus interest.

  13. Re:That Kramer guy... by mattack2 · · Score: 2, Informative

    AFAIK, they don't (can't?) "make" you hold the IPO stock.. If you sell within 30 days, however, you are likely not going to be allocated IPO shares again, at least for a while. Yes, I'm nitpicking the difference, but I do think it's significant, esp. if one is willing to risk missing future IPOs.

    (I got some at $18, since my brokers weren't in the IPO.)

  14. Re:Stock price already increased by savanik · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No revenue stream now; no revenue stream until 2012.

    This seems to be pretty much parallel to most of the business plans of dot-coms. "We have cool new technology! What, we also need sales?"

    It really depends on how well they can market the roadsters... which they have not shown to be one of their strong suits yet. Time will tell. Opening day will not.

  15. Re:Stock price already increased by Tekfactory · · Score: 4, Informative

    Nope, they stopped making the Roadsters, all work now is on the S-Sedan and licensing their Drivetrain technology to Mercedes and Toyota.

  16. Re:I'd say it's overpriced by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yeah, because that's why people buy Ferraris -- range.

    The Roadster handily beats similarly priced Ferraris in acceleration. It's not the greatest sports car ever, but in terms of performance it's quite impressive.

    I'm not going to buy one, but that's because I think a Mustang is too ostentatious for me. :P

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  17. Re:Hippy alert! by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 3, Funny

    Here's my ride. Look for it passing you on the highway.

    Most people don't try to go out of their way to show off to the world that they have a tiny penis.

  18. Re:I'd say it's overpriced by coolsnowmen · · Score: 2, Informative

    As someone who just bought a used prius, I'd have to say that your insult is off base. At an AVERAGE of 48.5 mpg, this car doesn't suck. It is big enough for me an my wife, and enough space in the back to drag around groceries/skies/camping equipment/or mulch. As my drag racing days are behind me, what more do you/I need in a car?

  19. Re:Stock price already increased by qortra · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why would anyone want just another run of the mill "family car".

    Obviously, there's a huge government conspiracy to make us think that people want "family cars". Heck, Wikipedia is claiming that a compact family sedan called the "Corolla" is the best selling car of all time.

    If it's got > 2 functional seats, I ain't interested.

    Sucker - I'm not interested unless it only has one functional seat and zero doors.

  20. Re:Stock price already increased by blueg3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why would anyone want just another run of the mill "family car".

    Probably because they have a family and use a car for transportation?

  21. Re:Stock price already increased by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Funny

    If it's got > 2 functional seats, I ain't interested.

    Hard to set up a threesome if you only have one extra seat. I see what your priorities are.

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  22. Re:Stock price already increased by cusco · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What's the problem with a 300 mile range? I've never understood that. That's five hours of driving at 60 mph, which far exceeds what most family sedans will ever need. If I'm going to travel more than 300 miles I'm letting someone else (pilot, engineer, bus driver, etc.) do the driving for me. Even on my most ridiculous days at work I'm not driving more than two hours from home.

    If my neighbors will cough up $70,000 for a Land Rover or H2 then I don't see that price point as an issue, either. Especially since Tesla is known as a luxury vehicle.

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  23. Stumped. by S-100 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I was going to make a brilliant analogy to the car business, but I can't think of one...

  24. Re:fail by MozeeToby · · Score: 4, Informative

    That particular episode of Top Gear is (especially) derided as FUD. The car never ran out of batteries, they never recharged the car (just an off the cuff remark about it taking 16 hours to charge from their windmill(!?)), and the 'brake down' that they reported was a blown fuse (not a drive train one either, just a regular one like could and does happen in every car). The put the car into neutral and pushed it off the track to 'show what would happen if you ran out of charge', obviously you could say the exact same thing about running out of gas on the track.

    To me, that really brought to light just how much the people at Top Gear are biased towards the cars that they like and against the cars that they don't.

  25. Re:fail by Perky_Goth · · Score: 2, Insightful

    To me, that really brought to light just how much the people at Top Gear are biased towards the cars that they like and against the cars that they don't.

    And this was new to you? I think it's so strikingly obvious that anyone wanting to learn anything about cars isn't getting anything from Top Gear. I watch it for the Lulz.

  26. Re:Stock price already increased by cusco · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And I need a yard of cement from time to time, but that doesn't mean that I have to own a cement mixer. If I owned an electric vehicle and needed to take that once- or twice-yearly long trip I'd rent a long-distance vehicle, the same as I'd rent a cement mixer. Even better is my neighbor's solution for the occasional need for a pickup. The parents bought it used a decade ago, now three of the kids split the insurance and the other stores it in his back yard. When any of the kids or grandkids need a truck they have one, but no one is saddled with the daily cost of driving the gas hog.

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