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Verizon iPhone Rumored For Early Next Year

Many readers are submitting coverage from around the Net, all based on a Bloomberg piece quoting two anonymous sources who insist that Verizon Wireless will offer a CDMA iPhone in January 2011. No one at Verizon or Apple would confirm, of course, and no one at AT&T would comment. "The iPhone, which has been the sole domain of rival AT&T in the US since June 2007, will give Verizon a boost in its competition for smartphone customers, UBS AG analyst John Hodulik said in an interview. Verizon customers, who numbered 92.8 million at the end of the first quarter, may buy 3 million iPhones a quarter, he estimates. ... 'Apple is going to dramatically increase the number of devices it sells in the US when exclusivity at AT&T ends,' said Hodulik. ... 'It's hard to ignore the quality issues that AT&T has faced.'"

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  1. As Annie once said... by assemblerex · · Score: 5, Funny

    Tomorrow! Tomorrow!You're always a day away!

  2. Can we shut up about this? by nine-times · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I suppose I am an Apple "fanboy" and I like hearing interesting Apple news as much as the next guy, but there is no news here.

    1. Re:Can we shut up about this? by Darkness404 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, its been rumored to be coming to Verizon ever since the iPhone 3G came out though. Each time its been proven to be false or terribly delayed. We had these same stories last year with the 3GS and stories the year previous. Until we get actual proof to back it up (such as CDMA hardware company buyout by Apple or something) it has no more credit than the stories 2 years ago.

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    2. Re:Can we shut up about this? by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's news when it happens - or when it's imminent.

      "Next year" is forever in mobile phone world. People change phones every 2 years - next year is "half a generation away".

      'It's hard to ignore the quality issues that AT&T has faced.'

      'It's hard to ignore the quality issues that the new iPhone has faced.'

    3. Re:Can we shut up about this? by Bobfrankly1 · · Score: 4, Funny

      'It's hard to ignore the quality issues that AT&T has faced.'

      'It's hard to ignore the quality issues that the new iPhone has faced.'

      The quality issues aren't with the iPhone, they are with the iPhone customers. They're holding the phone wrong, remember?

    4. Re:Can we shut up about this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Apple has the most popular smartphone on the market

      WTF? Okay, Android is a variety of phones made by different manufacturers but how can you ignore Blackberry? "It's nbot popular it just sells a lot more" or something?

    5. Re:Can we shut up about this? by DragonWriter · · Score: 4, Funny

      I am certainly NOT an Apple fanboy, but it's silly to claim that this isn't news, *assuming* it turns out to be true.

      If a Verizon iPhone actually occurs, or is announced, that will be news.

      That there are reports from anonymous sources that a Verizon iPhone will happen in the near future is not news, its s pretty regular occurrence.

      As an analogy:

      While it would be significant news if Judgement Day occurred, it would not be significant news that there was a man with a hand-lettered sign on a sidewalk in a major city announcing that Judgement Day was imminent.

    6. Re:Can we shut up about this? by blackraven14250 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Blackberry isn't nearly as popular for personal use.

  3. Many with family plans on Verizon are waiting ... by perpenso · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I was in business school recently. Lots of classmates purchased iPhones. An equal number wanted to but did not want to switch their family plans from Verizon to AT&T. If and when Verizon becomes an option I expect a spike in sales like we are seeing with the introduction of the iPhone 4. When I think about it, maybe its good for Apple to add Verizon in between phone updates and not at the same time. It would just be more strain on a new supply chain trying to get ramped up.
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  4. I Want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    If Apple wants to lock down the iPhone...

    And Google wants to remotely install and delete software from my droid...

    Then I want a N900 + MeeGo.

    I also want a pony.

  5. Steve would never do this... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But it would be unbelievably hilarious to imagine what would happen if Verizon announced that they would be carrying the iPhone and, once all the eager little pre-orderers had plunked down their US Treasury gift cards, revealed the horrible truth: that the ViPhone had had the same ghastly Verizon software makeover as most of the other phones Verizon sells, unbelievably unintuitive red interface, V-Cast music store, and all.

    It would certainly calm fears at AT&T about subscriber loss...

    1. Re:Steve would never do this... by d474 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Are you trying to say you aren't TOTALLY excited about using the VZ Navigator on the viPhone? What is wrong with you.

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    2. Re:Steve would never do this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Verizon's not doing this to their Android phones, so I see no reason why they'd do it to their iPhone (not that Apple would ever allow that to happen).

    3. Re:Steve would never do this... by kefler · · Score: 3, Informative

      Uhhh what? I have a Droid with verizon and there's no trace of V-anything. Unless you go to the market and install the basic verizon stuff. I think you are livin' in the past.

    4. Re:Steve would never do this... by brentrad · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yep, Verizon seems to have realized that if they gimp their Android phones (which are marketed to geeks), they would end up repelling those very geeks that they are trying to woo. I know I would not have got my Droid if Verizon had blocked all the fun stuff that comes stock with Android.

      Tech companies must know by now that a lot of non-geeks ask their geek friends and colleagues for tech advice - including what new smartphone to buy. Piss off or disappoint the geeks, and they will talk trash about your product - remember Vista?

      Case in point: Because I liked my Droid so much, we bought my wife a Droid Eris. I've convinced two of my friends to drop their iPhones when their contracts are up and jump ship to Android (not that it took much convincing - they were getting pissed off about all the things you can't do with an iPhone - no Flash, no ability to have a spare battery, no USB drive access to the phone's memory or SD card) and another non-iPhone-using friend is upgrading from a feature phone to a Droid X soon. Seems like their new policy of not hobbling their phones is working out for Verizon so far.

  6. Too bad by Darkness404 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Its really too bad Apple didn't go with multiple carriers from the beginning, I think they've already tarnished their phones reputation by keeping it on AT&T's crappy network, not to mention now bandwidth caps, how am I supposed to use Hulu's Iphone app if I only have 2GB of data to last me a month?

    Really, Apple should have gone multi-carrier from the 3G(S) onwards and probably from the first iPhone... But, this is Apple, after all, AT&T's terrible network is just part of the experience! Now you can be complaining about it like the masses!

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    1. Re:Too bad by caerwyn · · Score: 2, Informative

      They didn't have a choice in the matter. AT&T was the only one willing to let them do what they wanted with the phone, and without that freedom it wouldn't have been the iPhone. Now that it has completely changed the direction for smartphones, everyone's willing to play ball, but that exclusivity was almost a requirement early on.

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  7. small impact, android will trump by farble1670 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    this will have less of an impact for verizon than people might think. in a year, android will be even more entrenched in their existing user base. for new users, there will be new android offerings that out-gear the iphone 4.

    1. Re:small impact, android will trump by josteos · · Score: 2, Informative

      A real keyboard.

      Some of you iDandys may not want one, but I do. I've got my eye on the Droid 2, not the iPhone or the Incredible or the EVO.

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    2. Re:small impact, android will trump by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And for those of us not attempting to take professional photography with our cell phones, and those who don't feel the "magic" of pixel density, and those who want to make video calls while not connected to Wifi, and those who don't have vegetarian-starved thin fingers with which to manipulate a tiny (but immaculately crisp, no doubt) onscreen keyboard, and those who want to use, and wirelessly share, a 7-10 Mbps data connection, all while paying less per month - there's the EVO 4G.

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    3. Re:small impact, android will trump by aristotle-dude · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Examples of cellphones other than iPhone 4 affected by holding it:

      HTC Droid Incredible: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaDE941PzQk

      Nexus One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2g5J4qPp54

      Nokia E71: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi1gHDa7-X0

      Nokia 6230: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_RP7Fn1w8Q

      Nokia 6720: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ7t75Uo6qQ

      Basically, any phone that has an integrated antenna will have diminished signal when you hold them from the bottom instead of how almost everyone in the civilized world holds a cellphone when making a call. Take note of the Verizon phone in the mix.

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    4. Re:small impact, android will trump by brentrad · · Score: 2, Informative

      The iPhone 4 does has a pretty nice display at 960x640 and it's true you can't see the pixels. Then again, on my Droid's 854 x 480 screen, I can't see the pixels either - that was one thing I marveled at when I first got it, and I still do. I too can view a web page zoomed all the way out and still read it - not comfortably, but you can at least see how the page is supposed to look. I think we're at the point of diminishing returns here with display resolution on these small screens. And my display is perfectly readable in full sunlight - not sure how the iPhone is.

      But I'll give you the fact that the iPhone has a superb camera. Android manufacturers need to take the hint from Apple and work on BETTER cameras, not just more megapixels.

      Some things that some Android phones have that iPhone does not: 4G (Sprint EVO 4G), swappable battery, wireless syncing (you only have to plug an Android phone into your computer to sync music, video, and files - all the contact data and etc. is backed up in the cloud automatically).

    5. Re:small impact, android will trump by brentrad · · Score: 2, Informative

      My Moto Droid works fine making calls when I hold it at the bottom. So does my wife's Eris And I know for a fact that my Droid's antenna is at the bottom - the way I usually hold my phone, I cup and completely engulf the bottom section with my hand. I never ever have dropped calls.

      Yes, SOME phones have problems with dropped calls when held from the bottom. Please don't try to make the argument that ALL phones have this issue, when it's just SOME phones that have this issue. Including the iPhone 4. Just admit - it's a design flaw in the phone. I really don't think this would have been a very big issue, except Steve Jobs and Apple are trying to pretend that there is no issue or it's the users' fault. THAT is what all the hoopla about the antenna has been about.

    6. Re:small impact, android will trump by Wovel · · Score: 2, Informative

      Just talked for 65 minutes on an iPhone 4 with my finger bridging the antenna gap the entire time.. So?

    7. Re:small impact, android will trump by brentrad · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Fair enough. Personal preference, and all that. I happen to really like the stock Android UI (which is what my Droid has.) And I actually think that "you can get porn on Android!" is a pretty weak argument - a 4 inch screen and surfing over 3G is not my preferred porn experience.

      No, I don't have much experience with the iPhone. From what I've heard though, it has a great interface that works very well, and has quality hardware. And Apple's industrial design is second to none - I wish the Android manufacturers would take a hint from Apple and design better-looking phones.

      But none of that is really that important to me. To me, it's all about what you can do with it.

      The reason I'd never own an iPhone is because of Apple's and Jobs' app store policies, the fact that the iPhone UI is not very customizable, the apps you can get on Android but not on iPhone (old console game emulators are one example, but there are many.)

      And most importantly, the features Android phones have that iPhones do not:

      - swappable batteries - I've gotten in the habit of hardly ever charging my phone, I just swap out with my spare battery when it gets low. I have a battery charger that cost $20.
      - direct USB drive letter access to the internal memory - no drivers needed, no iTunes sync needed.
      - cloud backup - all my contacts are automatically synced to Google, and in the upcoming 2.2 release of Android, app data will also be synced. You do need to connect with USB to copy over music and video though.
      - USB tethering - iPhone finally has this also I believe.
      - ability to change just about any setting I want on the phone. Can use any mp3 as a ringtone. Can change the wallpaper. Can even completely replace the UI with a different one if I want (but I like the stock UI personally.)
      - homescreen widgets - on my homescreens, I have: widgets to turn on and off all the radios (bluetooth/wifi/gps), a WeatherBug widget, a battery level widget, a calendar widget so I can see my next appointment at a glance, and many web page shortcuts. Also folders, but iPhone has those now. You can put direct links to any contact on your home screens - when you click on one, it gives you the option to Navigate to their address, call them, text message them, email, Google talk, Facebook, etc.
      - Google Maps Navigation - so good that I got rid of my standalone GPS. Plus it's integrated into the phone all over - if you have an address in one of your contacts, it'll give you the option to Navigate there.
      - Flash in the browser (coming soon). No, I don't want to play flash games, but there are a lot of websites that I visit that use flash for their video players, like CNN. I wish everyone was using HTML 5 and not flash, but like it or not, flash is very common on the web right now today.
      - notification panel - Android has a notification panel at the top that saves all your notifications until you dismiss them. Easy to see at a glance from anywhere that you have new email, voicemails, which radios are on and connected, etc.
      - standard USB connections - my Droid uses micro USB, my wife's Eris uses mini USB. All Droids use one or the other. This makes it very easy to buy extra power cords (got a phone charger for $12), and you don't have to buy them from Apple, or pay extra to an approved manufacturer to cover the dock royalty fee.

    8. Re:small impact, android will trump by tgibbs · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Clearly this is not true. Some phones have these issues. Some don't.

      We know that all phones will have this issue to some extent--it is an inescapable consequence of the physics of RF and antennas. But it will not be a problem for some people, because it will also depend upon their individual electrical properties. Whether the frequency of such problems is any greater for the iPhone than for other phones remains to be seen. For example, Ars Technica reported "We were able to reproduce this problem consistently once we learned the proper technique for "cupping" the phone—before watching a video how to do this, several of us on staff were unable to just figure out on our own how to make this happen...During our testing, this did not seem to affect our actual phone calls outside of when we were explicitly trying to degrade the signal.".

  8. Blame Verizon by gig · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > 'It's hard to ignore the quality issues that AT&T has faced.'"

    Even harder to ignore that Verizon's closed network only runs Verizon phones.

    If Verizon is building LTE then that can run iPhone 4G. Can't see a CDMA iPhone at this late stage. It's been end-of-lifed for quite some time. An iPhone 4G launch on Verizon is an event. Verizon and AT&T competing for iPhone users with the same handsets is an event.

  9. different systems by swschrad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    nothing that will work on the ATT network will work on Verizon. different chipsets, different modulation, different cell-skip algorithms.

    so Apple would have to whip up two different phones altogether. they could keep the screen and maybe some of the case parts, but nothing else. they don't do that.

    we are entering a new era, in which the 4G systems are going to be more similar than different. now, it makes sense for Apple to span multiple 4G systems, as you just fork the software left or right at boot, and twiddle some tables. note the rumored verIphone will only work in the 4G realm, which will be 1/5 of the network or so in January, but the whole thing by the 2012/2013 boundary.

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    1. Re:different systems by Darkness404 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, but its Apple, look at Motorola which pretty much shipped 4 versions of the Razor phone for each of the major carriers, just add some drivers to iOS and divide manufacturing between CDMA and GSM iPhones, for a company as large as Apple, its not too huge of a feat. For a tiny community driven company, yes, for a major hardware vendor like Apple? Its easy.

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    2. Re:different systems by Lars+T. · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes, but its Apple, look at Motorola which pretty much shipped 4 versions of the Razor phone for each of the major carriers, just add some drivers to iOS and divide manufacturing between CDMA and GSM iPhones, for a company as large as Apple, its not too huge of a feat. For a tiny community driven company, yes, for a major hardware vendor like Apple? Its easy.

      Why do something as easy as ship 4 different phones for the 4 major US carriers, when they can do something as complicated as ship one phone that works with at least one provider in just about every place on earth.

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    3. Re:different systems by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 2, Funny

      ... like the optimal positioning of the antenna ...

    4. Re:different systems by dafing · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Ah, but see, what SHOULD have happened is that US carriers should have STUCK with GSM...

      Up until now, all iPhone complaints seemed to be "ITS ONLY ON AT&T!!!!111!!!!!", including reviews for international readers. Here in New Zealand, I can easily use our iPhones, sold unlocked by Vodafone, on THREE carriers. Overseas, the iPhone is sold EXPLICITLY to be used on any network you choose,

      "Buy your iPhone from Apple SIM-free."

      "It works with the carrier of your choice.

      Buy your iPhone from the Apple Online Store and choose your own GSM carrier. You can change carriers at any time."

      "It works internationally.

      Because this iPhone is SIM-free, you can purchase a micro-SIM or SIM card and service from a local carrier at your destination. Or check with your home carrier regarding international roaming charges."

      From the UK iPhone page http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone

      Its practically ORDERING me to beg my UK friends to send me an iPhone 4...

      Yes, the entire world knows the tragedy of the AT&T network, and it seems OBVIOUS that the iPhone deserves to be sold on more than one carrier in the USA, just like pretty much every other country in the world.

      But please, can we actually WAIT until this happens, instead of whispering overheard rumours?

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  10. Re:Verizon FUD? by EkriirkE · · Score: 4, Informative
    Perhaps they are implementing this? http://www.cdg.org/news/press/2009/Aug17_09.asp

    A complementary device enhancement known as simultaneous 1X Voice and EV-DO Data (SVDO) will also become available during the same timeframe and will enable CDMA2000 devices to access EV-DO packet data services while in an active 1X circuit-switch voice call.

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  11. Uh, Exclusive Deal (And GSM)? by Kostya · · Score: 2, Informative

    How can anyone post this when we have the exclusive deal confirmed? http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/confirmed-apple-and-atandt-signed-five-year-iphone-exclusivity-de/

    And the other is that the last time I checked, Verizon doesn't have GSM. Why would Apple manufacture two different devices, and one that can't be used in all the other world markets? I'm not trying to start a GSM/CDMA holy war, just acknowledging that Apple is doing just fine with AT&T and GSM. Why would they go through all that trouble just to get Verizon customers?

    Especially since Verizon seems to insist on branding all phones they offer--I don't see how Steve would accept that either.

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    1. Re:Uh, Exclusive Deal (And GSM)? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      In Japan, NTT Docomo sell iPhone and has been for a while. NTT Docomo uses Wideband CDMA (WCDMA), so there's already CDMA version of the iPhone. Anyone that knows the cell phone industry knows supporting GSM/TDMA and CDMA/WCDMA is required for global rollout. Europe is still dominated by GSM/TDMA, while much of asia uses WCDMA/CDMA for the extra capacity and bandwidth. Don't take my word for it, just ask wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTT_DoCoMo)

    2. Re:Uh, Exclusive Deal (And GSM)? by moosesocks · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There are also phones that simultaneously do GSM and CDMA. My BlackBerry Tour works on Verizon's network, but can also roam onto just about any GSM network worldwide (and even has a Verizon SIM card, which is a bit of an oddity I suppose)

      The phone's a piece of shit otherwise, but it can indeed hop onto both networks, (and make incomprehensibly noisy phone calls, and achieve miserable speeds for its limited selection of worthless apps during its incredibly short battery life).

      That's my work phone. My personal phone is a Droid Incredible, which is a fantastic piece of hardware with some great software underneath it. RIM is going to tank once another company figures out how to capture the "enterprise" market. Their products are godawful.

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    3. Re:Uh, Exclusive Deal (And GSM)? by aristotle-dude · · Score: 4, Informative

      In Japan, NTT Docomo sell iPhone and has been for a while. NTT Docomo uses Wideband CDMA (WCDMA), so there's already CDMA version of the iPhone. Anyone that knows the cell phone industry knows supporting GSM/TDMA and CDMA/WCDMA is required for global rollout. Europe is still dominated by GSM/TDMA, while much of asia uses WCDMA/CDMA for the extra capacity and bandwidth. Don't take my word for it, just ask wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTT_DoCoMo)

      Oh, my goodness. WCDMA is the air interface for HSPA which AT&T calls 3G. WCDMA has nothing to do with the CDMA which Verizon and Sprint use which is called CDMA2000. Other names for 3G are HSPA, UMTS and FOMA. NTT DoCoMo is "NOT" the official iPhone carrier, Softbank is the official iPhone carrier. I roamed on NTT DocCoMo when I was in Tokyo with my iPhone 3GS.

      There is only one type of iPhone which is a GSM (Edge) and HSPA (UMTS) device. CDMA != WCDMA. Do you understand?

      Go look on Wikipedia. WCDMA is linked with HSPA/UMTS/FOMA "NOT" CDMA aka CDMA2000.

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  12. Uh huh. by Snap+E+Tom · · Score: 5, Funny

    And 2011 will finally be the year of Linux on the desktop.

    1. Re:Uh huh. by Locke2005 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Close! With Android, 2011 will finally be the year of Linux on the cell phone. The forte for Linux is embedded applications and servers. Desktop users are already trained to use Windows, so it doesn't matter how much technically "better" another OS is.

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  13. Where's the damn SEC? by KarmaKhameleon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hope the feds investigate these rumor-churns that seems to do nothing else but manipulate the price of Verizon's stock than actually - you know - result in an iPhone for Verizon. They've been putting out false flags for 3 years now.

    Only Madoff could run a game as long as Verizon is.

  14. Apple's 28% marketshare of smartphones... by mollog · · Score: 2, Informative

    Apple currently has a 28% market share of the smartphone market, even with its phone being exclusive to ATT. Opening it to the Verizon network will surely cause its market share to climb sharply.

    Right now, Apple is in a three-way tie for the market. It will start to dominate the market if/when it goes onto the Verizon network.

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  15. Re:Many with family plans on Verizon are waiting . by Low+Ranked+Craig · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Infinion chipset in the iPhone already has the support needed for CDMA from what I've read, basically they just need to put the right radios in the phone, and Verizon needs to make the network enhancements to support visual voice mail.

    THe potential market in the US is huge, probably in the neighborhood of 60 million potential new buyers. Of course only a fraction of those will purchase, but since the Verizon customer base is about the same size as AT&T's and given the penetration of the iPhone in to AT&T's customer base, it will be millions of sales for Apple.

    On a personal note, I've had LA Cellular / Cingular / AT&T for a long time, and in So Cal / Arizona I've never had any issues with AT&T

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  16. Re:AT&T....can you fear me now? by pauljlucas · · Score: 2, Funny

    Steve to AT&T: "I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further."

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  17. Re:AT&T....can you fear me now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yup. That's why when the iPhone 4G launched they allowed anyone to sign up for one, even if they weren't near the end of their contract. Now AT&T has locked in everyone who was an Apple fanboy or early adopter, and probably the majority of iPhone upgraders. When (if) it hits Verizon in January the only people who will be interested are the (relatively) few people who wanted an iPhone but who didn't want to leave Verizon for AT&T AND who didn't already shell out for a Droid X, Droid 2, or whatever Droid device launches this fall that includes everything the iPhone 4 has.

    What would be interesting though is if the Verizon iPhone 4 were an LTE handset. Verizon has been rolling out LTE but has said that they won't launch a handset until 2011. An LTE iPhone launch would be a real head-turner, providing the simultaneous voice and data capability that AT&T likes to tout along with 4G bandwidth.

  18. Re:More bullshit to drum up ad hits by spleck · · Score: 2, Informative

    I suspect the "5 year agreement" started earlier than 2007... say end of 2005 when Apple wanted to lock down a network/carrier to try out their new revenue system.

    None of the previous rumors have involved Pegatron already tooling up for production of an iPhone. Granted, that leak was right before their IPO--so I'd says there's an even chance that someone made it up to boost the stock, or they really are producing an iPhone under secrecy and needed to leak the info to boost the stock.

    I'd say if we're going to hear something official, it will be at the September iPod event. If Pegatron really is going to produce iPhones, it will be hard to keep it a secret, so I would be shocked if Apple didn't plan to reveal something until Nov-Jan timeframe (which would coincide with VZW's LTE announcements).

    http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20100617PD215.html