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Blizzard To Require Real First and Last Names For Official Forums

An anonymous reader writes "Recently, Blizzard Entertainment implemented a Real ID feature for some of its current games and all of its future Battle.net-based games. Today, Blizzard announced that it intends to require usage of the real names of Battle.net posters for its StarCraft II forums before release, and for its World of Warcraft forums shortly before the release of World of Warcraft: Cataclysm. From the announcement: 'The first and most significant change is that in the near future, anyone posting or replying to a post on official Blizzard forums will be doing so using their Real ID — that is, their real-life first and last name — with the option to also display the name of their primary in-game character alongside it. These changes will go into effect on all StarCraft II forums with the launch of the new community site prior to the July 27 release of the game, with the World of Warcraft site and forums following suit near the launch of Cataclysm. Certain classic forums, including the classic Battle.net forums, will remain unchanged.'"

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  1. How does this work for those under 13? by ImNotAtWork · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm assuming it's under the parents name for the account which should be a pleasant conversation at work when your boss asks you why you are trolling the warlock forum?

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    1. Re:How does this work for those under 13? by NecroPuppy · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Well, Bob, it's like this. Everyone in HR is playing Alliance, and trying to convince Blizzard that Locks are overpowered. You can't expect me to let them get away with that, now can you?"

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    2. Re:How does this work for those under 13? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm assuming it's under the parents name for the account which should be a pleasant conversation at work when your boss asks you why you are trolling the warlock forum?

      Already laying the groundwork for the "it was my 13-year-old" excuse, I see. ;)

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    3. Re:How does this work for those under 13? by UDGags · · Score: 5, Informative

      From the Real ID FAQ Will parents be able to control their child’s access to posting on the forums? Yes. When this change to the forums goes live, parents will be able to decide whether to allow their child to post on official Blizzard forums that use Real ID through Battle.net Parental Controls.

    4. Re:How does this work for those under 13? by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 4, Funny

      why you are trolling the warlock forum?

      You can't fool me. Trolls can't be warlocks!

    5. Re:How does this work for those under 13? by cappp · · Score: 5, Informative

      A Blizzard employee went ahead and put his name out there as detailed on this site.

      In short, a little digging has found the guy's phone number, home address, the names and home address of his parents, his siblings' names, the valuation of his property, the name of his spouse, his facebook account, pictures of his home, pictures of him, his twitter account, his age, and so on.

  2. Hmm.... by Pojut · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Real first and last name? Full, no initial? Not sure what I think about that one, Blizzard...

    1. Re:Hmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I know what to think of it.

      It is a horrible, horrible idea.

      You know that list of things every responsible parent teaches their children to never do on the internet?

      One of those things is to tell someone your real name.

      Blizzard is forcing them to in a way they are unlikely to notice first or are willing to do anyway because it is for all the new big games.

      Blizzard is going to expose the identities of millions of people, including children and adolescents publicly on the internet. They can then be exploited by anyone, including the "wonderful" guys over at 4chan, and worse.

    2. Re:Hmm.... by rxan · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And yet everyone gives out their real name on Facebook when they have the choice to give a fake one.

    3. Re:Hmm.... by Spazztastic · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My thought: Internet Detectives are going to have a field day with this. Got ganked by a Rogue last night? Search the forums for his character name, find his real name, figure out where he lives, and get him right back with harassing phone calls, pizzas, etc...

      Or they...
        - Track him down and set his house on fire.
        - Find his workplace and tell his boss/coworkers that he's a pedophile/rapist/etc.
        - Find their SO and tell them the same as above.

      It's sickening the amount of things that could follow through from this action and just one remark. The whole RealID thing is a problem in the first place for transgender folks who don't want others to know their legal names, but all of the above listed reasons.

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    4. Re:Hmm.... by osu-neko · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And yet everyone gives out their real name on Facebook when they have the choice to give a fake one.

      People who read your Facebook page are less likely to be mad than people who you gank and corpse-camp in Stranglethorn Vale.

      Well, for most people anyway... don't know what's on your Facebook page specifically...

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    5. Re:Hmm.... by Haffner · · Score: 4, Insightful

      facebook profiles are created with that intention. You are making an account that is you. No one makes their orc warlock thinking it is really who they are. (I'm preparing for contradictory comments below).

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    6. Re:Hmm.... by kent_eh · · Score: 4, Funny

      And yet everyone gives out their real name on Facebook when they have the choice to give a fake one.

      Not everyone.
      not that my "A. Guy" profile is used for much more than looking at other people's public stuff, but still...

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    7. Re:Hmm.... by a+whoabot · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You actually don't have that choice, unless you infringe their terms, which say, "You will not provide any false personal information on Facebook, or create an account for anyone other than yourself without permission".

    8. Re:Hmm.... by TruthSauce · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's pretty interesting that a couple of random phone calls "Mr xxx is a pedophile" would pretty much destroy most people's lives.

      Doesn't that underscore a fundamental breakage in our social system?

    9. Re:Hmm.... by Volguus+Zildrohar · · Score: 5, Funny

      (I'm preparing for contradictory comments below).

      No you're not!

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    10. Re:Hmm.... by stonewallred · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Really? I have two facebook profiles. One with my real name, with very limited details, and one with a fake name where all my RL friends can find me. A google search brings up nothing about me, even though I was convicted of a felony 23 years ago, there are no pictures of me on the internet that I can find, and I use my real name for nothing, including my WoW account. My phone, cable and power bill are all in fake names, and I rent for cash from a former employer. My vehicles are registered to me, at a 10 year old address and my DL shows the same address. Which the banks also have as my permanent address. I use a PO box in the same county as my "official" address shows. Not everyone is willing to let the government or corporations track their where abouts and doings with ease.

  3. Lawsuit Incoming! by Nailer235 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wonder how long it'll be until someone finally tracks down a troll (in real life) and loots their corpse

  4. Jay and Silent Bob by whisper_jeff · · Score: 5, Funny

    Images of the ending of Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back come to mind ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjWFZPJZTxU ).

    And those images are happy, indeed. :)

  5. I actually like this trend... by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... with more and more people being forced to use their real names on the Internet, you'll see a lot less flaming, trolling, and defacing. People I believe will be less quick to turn a discussion into an argument and more interested in understanding one another.

    However, I do not personally like the idea of my first and last name being made public everywhere, which is why I have generally shunned Facebook and would not use this feature even if I wanted to.

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    1. Re:I actually like this trend... by selven · · Score: 5, Interesting

      So you like other people not being anonymous, but you want yourself to still be anonymous? That kind of reminds me of this.

      I personally think internet anonymity is a good thing. It forces people to attack each other's arguments rather than resorting to ad hominems, and ensures an even playing field, since newbies' arguments are heard on the same level as those of our celebrities (at least in theory).

    2. Re:I actually like this trend... by Pluvius · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ... with more and more people being forced to use their real names on the Internet, you'll see a lot less flaming, trolling, and defacing. People I believe will be less quick to turn a discussion into an argument and more interested in understanding one another.

      However, I do not personally like the idea of my first and last name being made public everywhere, which is why I have generally shunned Facebook and would not use this feature even if I wanted to.

      So in other words, chilling effects on free speech are a good idea, but only if they're placed on other people?

      Rob

    3. Re:I actually like this trend... by BobMcD · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes, because trolls would never stoop to using fake "real" names.

      Well, they'll find it very difficult to do that unless they figure out a way to spoof the same name on their credit card.

      FYI, you can buy 'Game Time Cards' with cash at every big-box store in the United States.

    4. Re:I actually like this trend... by breakfastpirate · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Only about 12 people in the United States have my last name. If I tell someone my full name, I might as well just tell them my social security number. Names aren't always as anonymous as you'd think...

    5. Re:I actually like this trend... by Naturalis+Philosopho · · Score: 5, Insightful

      never ONCE has it or should it ever affect your work.

      Except, of course, for that time when your boss was considering you for a promotion but chose the other candidate because he doesn't play that "stupid kid's game" in all his spare time.

      True story: I moved to a new town and started a new job working at a management level with a few other degree-level pros and also a large group of high-school and GED level workers. I joined an online dating site and set one of my preferences to be for at least college level education. Some of the ladies at work checked out my profile (you can hide your name, but not having a photo means no views), and it got quickly spread that I was "against" only having high-school level education. Oh, well, right? Well, then I got transferred to work under an older supervisor with "only" a high-school diploma who'd gotten his current position by working for 30+ years in the industry. Yeah, lot of fun working under someone who believed the rumors that you don't think people with only high-school level education are worth anything. Maybe it shouldn't happen, but people judge you both on what you do online and what you're perceived as doing online. That's just the way the world works. Forcing people to use their real names will have many effects, but one big one is that it will cause many thinking people to simply not post anymore, good or bad posts.

  6. Re:trying to imagine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now you bastards will know how it feels

    - Johnathan Doe

  7. Now so bad. by snarfies · · Score: 4, Funny

    Fortunately, my real name actually is KÖRGULL THE EXTERMINATOR, so I won't be needing to change my battlenet ID.

  8. Everquest didn't have forums by Selfbain · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In the old EQ days (I know it's still around but who cares these days), all the forums for the game were run by the fans because there were no official ones. I have a feeling this change will cause similar forums to rise in popularity and Blizzard will accomplish little other than losing control of the conversation and pissing off their users.

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  9. What a sham! by yoshi_mon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While a lot of people have gone on and on about how using real names will promote more civility and better discourse, something I seriously doubt is necessarily true, that is no where near the real reason Blizzard is forcing RealID.

    It's a means to open up their TOS to allow dataminers access to a vast swath of information. Cha ching! Add to that anyone in game using RealID that then links up friends list? Cha ching! Even more information to datamine. And of course anyone who has played WoW knows that they log damn near everything. You can bet that gchat, party chat, officer chat, raid chat, general chat, trade chat, and every other channel that you type a letter in will be up for datamining. Cha ching!

    It's all about the money people. Cloaked in a flag of good intentions.

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  10. Only idiots post with real name by junglebeast · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1) Did Blizzard ever stop to think that many (most?) people play their games as an ESCAPE from real life?

    2) Anything on Blizzard forums goes on Google, and comes up in search results. That means anybody who uses their forums is going to be labeling themselves, forever after, as a nerdy computer game player to future employers, dates, etc...which is not something that is looked upon positively by many people. I would certainly discriminate against potential employees if I saw that they were a WoW geek.

    3) People sometimes have bad days, say things they regret later...on a forum this is all saved forever. Luckily only the people who know their forum name can find it. So you protect your hidden identities more securely than you protect your email passwords. Blizzard aims to make all those mistakes unforgivable.

    There is nothing that is possibly worth saying on the Blizzard forums that is worth sacrificing one's anonymity for.

    1. Re:Only idiots post with real name by Divide+By+Zero · · Score: 4, Funny
      Sir or madam, I respectfully object to the title of your most recent post. I have found using my real name to be an uplifting experience.

      Respectfully,

      Divide B. Zero III, Esq.

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  11. While I do agree I still dislike it in general by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I mean I completely agree, that if you remove the anonymity you'll remove a lot of the asshole factor online. People are much bigger pricks when they don't think it can come back to bite them. So it would remove a lot of that.

    However it would also discourage people form sharing thoughts as freely. If I had to use my real name on Slashdot, I wouldn't post nearly as much. I'd make sure to restrict it only to things I was comfortable with all current and future employers seeing. I wouldn't want to screw myself out of a job because I posted something that someone disagreed with.

    As it stands though, a pseudonym allows me to do that. It isn't true anonymity, with a bit of sniffing around you could easily come up with who I really am. However it means that a simple search for my real name will not come up with any of this. That is enough to keep it form being a problem. Just removing the direct connection is all I need.

    Over all, I think it is good to have things that way. I like to be able to freely share my thoughts online, and I'd like to think some people find it valuable (on Slashdot people seem to at least sometimes as I do get modded up). I wouldn't want to have to restrict some of those because of the worry of retribution. I can only do that so long as I can have a small barrier between my real and online identity.

  12. Re:In Blizzard's defense by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No trolls here.

    Hey, if you're browsing at -1, that's your problem, not Slashdot's.

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  13. The children! by Rydia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I like how slashdot commenters love to use "won't somebody think of the children?!" as a device for sarcastic mockery of various Internet policies. Then this happens, and we get a thread full of ...

    "But ... won't somebody think of the children?!"

  14. There are no girls on the internet... by Brandee07 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If there are no girls on the internet now, there won't be any ever once this goes into effect.

    There's no quicker way to be harassed, stalked, and otherwise massively annoyed by EVERYONE than to reveal that you are in possession of TWO X chromosomes, instead of the internet norm XY configuration.

    And the absolute last thing I want is random assholes that I've pissed off on my server to Google my name, of which the first result is the staff listing on my current employer's website, and then start sending nasty emails to my boss.

  15. Not for me by nege · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While I think that overall this is a good thing for the Blizzard forums (as well as other changes they are making according to TFA, including rating up and down on posts), it completely removes my desire to post on their forums. I don't troll as a rule (but I can't say it’s never happened), but my last name is so unique that finding me on the Google is already ridiculously easy (my first and last name - all of the first page is me). I don't need prospective employers knowing about my gaming habits, and even less so prospective dates. Not that I go out of my way to hide these things from people, but I don't want it popping up as a matter of course just because someone googles my last name.

  16. Re:trying to imagine... by butterflysrage · · Score: 4, Interesting

    what has me worried is that I rarely disclose that I'm female in WoW except to my guild... when other people find out they tend to be less than mature. I would rather not face a barrage of /tells and real_id friend requests from the "plz cyber?" crowd.

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  17. I see you, You see me by Herkum01 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    OK, then be sure to let us, the users know the REAL NAMES of the moderators, business managers, sales staff, marketing gurus of your business and I am sure that openness will be embraced by all!

  18. Great Idea by tiny69 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think posting a person's real name is a great idea. I'd never get embarassed by having my real name associated with some lame username that I picked over 10 years ago.

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  19. Re:Reduced server useage by B1oodAnge1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Go die in a fire.

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  20. Re:trying to imagine... by Bakkster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why shouldn't I seperate my online persona(s) from my real life identity? What problem is Blizzard trying to solve here?

    The Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory. People are less likely to act like an asshole if they don't have anonymity to hide behind. The only people who will be idiots any more are those who are idiots already.

    Another example of a game using real names is iRacing, though real names are used throughout the game, instead of just on the forums. Again, the idea is to discourage anti-social behavior (intentional wrecking, profanity, etc), and this is part of their aggressive policing against griefers. In this case, such a prevention is especially necessary for a racing game of this type. I don't frequent the Blizzard forums, so I'm not sure if there are enough douchebags there to justify such measures.

    I make it a point to avoid any forum identity that could be easliy traced back to my real name, because stuff comes back to haunt you. Do you really want somehting you said 20 years ago in some gaming forum to come up in a job interview?

    In that case, either:
    1) Don't be a jack-ass on the Blizzard forums.
    2) Don't use the Blizzard forums.

    That said, I've given my screen name which I've used for the last decade as part of a background check for an interview, so I'm well aware of the issue. However, nothing I said in the past (I've said a lot of stupid stuff) was an issue. If it is a concern to you, don't use the forums (it's an optional part of an optional game you play, you can deal with it), or simply police your behavior before it is recorded for all posterity on the Intertubes.

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  21. Re:Internet Anonymity is good! by Burnhard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes! This is the point. Anonymity is pretty much the foundation stone of identity security. I know it sounds kind-of obvious, but there it is.

  22. Re:trying to imagine... by thirtybelow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem is that the degree to which anyone is deterred will be determined by how concerned they are about their online image. People with careers and families will be even more cautious, and probably less like to contribute to a discussion. 13-y.o. dickheads will go right on being dickheads, because they have nothing to lose and it will be several years before they are in any position to worry about an online reputation. So, people who are most likely to say something worthwhile are the most likely to be silenced by lack of anonymity.