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The Hobby of Energy Secretary Steven Chu

quanminoan writes "Nobel Laureate and US Secretary of Energy Steven Chu has continued to publish even while in federal office. While previous research topics include gravitational redshift, Chu has coauthored a paper entitled 'Subnanometre single-molecule localization registration and distance measurements' which discusses a way to optically image objects as small as 0.5 nm — a major step down from the previous limit of 10 nm. Chu does this in his free time, claiming 'I just consider it my equivalent of ... vegging out in front of the TV.'"

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  1. His equivalent of TV is publishing papers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ouch, the feeling of terrible inadequacy, laziness and lack of accomplishment. :P

    1. Re:His equivalent of TV is publishing papers by nomadic · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Every year you age, it will get worse.

    2. Re:His equivalent of TV is publishing papers by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 2, Informative

      I used to have a boss- every time I saw him, the thought went through my head, "you must have been washing your hair while this guy was reading papers." His hair was never combed straight and he wiped everyone's ass across the floor in every scientific staff meeting.

    3. Re:His equivalent of TV is publishing papers by mcvos · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I recently read an article that pointed out that the best geniuses are terribly lazy. You don't invent an easier way of doing something when you're okay with doing all the old-fashioned hard work. The wheel wasn't invented by someone who thought it was normal to carry heavy loads on his back.

    4. Re:His equivalent of TV is publishing papers by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It has to be a special kind of laziness, though, or laziness combined with severe environmental limitations.

      The wheel wasn't invented by the guy willing to carry loads the hard way; but while he was busy sweating over wheel prototypes, his even lazier counterpart was fanning himself in the shade while his slaves carried the heavy loads....

      In this case, Chu is the US Secretary of Energy. That almost certainly means a base salary in the 100k+ range. Not "rich beyond the dreams of avarice"; but not a position where need makes innovation the lazier approach than work.

  2. bill richardsons hobby by ifeelswine · · Score: 5, Funny

    was doing fred flintstone impersonations

  3. Right Wing and Moores Law by OldSoldier · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Two comments...

    a) how long before right wing pundits claim that this is proof Chu isn't doing the job he was hired for?
    b) is this viewing technique applicable in reverse for microchip optical etching/lithography?

    1. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      a) how long before right wing pundits claim that this is proof Chu isn't doing the job he was hired for?

      Well I think we just saw how long it takes for someone to politicise this.

      Pot, meet kettle.

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    2. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Mashiki · · Score: 2, Informative

      Bingo, as a "rightwing nut" I couldn't care as long as he does his job when he's supposed to.

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    3. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 4, Funny

      Bingo, as a "rightwing nut" I couldn't care as long as he does his job when he's supposed to.

      That disqualifies you from being a "nut" - at least in this area.
      Now if you want to lay claim to believing Obama was born in Kenya and is a secret muslim terrorist, you can have that title back.

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    4. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Dolphinzilla · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I know I am walking into your trap - but I know from my own personal career as an engineer that I have sought outside diversions (consulting, projects etc..) when I have had jobs where I was:

      a. Bored into oblivion / no challenges
      b. Couldn't get anything done at work because of process (one job I had as a government contractor)
      c. Felt my skills would wither and die if I did not actively pursue them myself

      So definitely I look at this as evidence of someone who is preparing for when this job is just a bad memory

    5. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by EdIII · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Obama was born in Kenya

      I. Don't. Fucking. Care.

      Quite seriously, why is that even important?

      I think a requirement that you have been a citizen, naturalized or not, for at least 15-20 years is reasonable. That would indicate you at least have some understanding of our culture and experience. There is already an age requirement, for pretty much the same reasons. That way, the unwashed masses could not get psychotic and vote in some barely 20 something American Idol finalist.

      Having to be born within some geographic boundaries as a serious consideration on whether or not I want you as my President? Ridiculous.... It is not much different than having to establish nobility on both sides for 5 generations. Way too much like a birthright to me. Why not call it something like Rule by Divine GPS Coordinates?

      We are all immigrants in this land, or children of immigrants. To grant a birthright, IMO, goes against what I consider being an American is. The idea is that WE get to elect our President. Why should our choice be limited on such an irrational basis? No felons? Makes sense. No children, or person under the age of 35? Sure, we want somebody mature. Purple? Uhhhh, what?

      I really could care less if Obama turned out to have been somewhere else on this planet. Saying he is secretly a fundamentalist Islamic Terrorist under Deep Cover is just CRAZY. No other words for it.

      What I am more concerned with is his piss poor performance so far as a President. Change never occurred, and things are really getting worse. Especially our rights, ACTA, Medical reform, reigning in Wall Street, ridiculous bail outs, etc. The last thing I care about right now is that he was allegedly born in Kenya.

    6. Re:Right Wing and Moores Law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Having to be born within some geographic boundaries as a serious consideration on whether or not I want you as my President? Ridiculous.... It is not much different than having to establish nobility on both sides for 5 generations. Way too much like a birthright to me. Why not call it something like Rule by Divine GPS Coordinates?

      You're right, that would be silly.

      But the Constitution doesn't say anything of the kind. It says, "a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution."

      You do know that children born to Americans outside the US are still citizens, right? That pregnant American women overseas are not rushed home in a terrified panic lest their children be foreigners with no right of residence? There's this whole nifty procedure we've got for these scenarios. There's this form you fill out with the local US Embassy to register the birth so that there won't be any problems later on when your child needs to prove their citizenship and their birth certificate is in Farsi or Basque.

      It might seem like Rule by Map, but that's really only true when dealing with, say, a non-citizen immigrant family who had one child before immigrating and another after. In that circumstance, yes, the location of the birth made all the difference, and the map won. I think edge cases like that are an acceptable sacrifice to make in the name of preserving our jus soli rather than jus sanguinis system of citizenship.

      I think the natural-born thing was a pretty reasonable defense mechanism for a tiny, fledgling group of republics who had just fought off the suzerainty of a king who had never set foot there. A king, indeed, who ruled over a great many lands he'd never set foot in; one amongst many such. Seems like a pretty fool-proof way to ensure that your leader has a vested interest in your nation's welfare, and isn't simply a silver-tongued French provocateur, no?

      If you don't like it, lobby to have the Constitution amended. It's a legacy of a bygone era, certainly, but it's not as capricious or asinine as you suggest.

  4. Re:Easier to get published by blackraven14250 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Theoretical principles come before implementation.

  5. Re:Easier to get published by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He is a Nobel Laureate. If that does not help him out then the extra boost for being a cabinet secretary is probably not going to be much extra help. Oh, and get a grip, wanker.

  6. Not too surprising by Weezul · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There are people around with amazing personalities, definitely not all top level academics are this dedicated, but they exist. Anyone who's done a PhD and postdoc(s) at top tier research universities will have spent time schmoozing with several.

    Obama got this guy largely because he asked. If a president doesn't get high level people, he's very likely got a reason he doesn't want them. Bush (cough)

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    1. Re:Not too surprising by fermion · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Someone can tell me if life has changed, but this is the way I recall authorship. The first author is ideally the person who did at least the broad development work(came up with the idea, worked out the general design, got funding) and hopefully wrote a rough draft of the paper. The second to n-1 author probably worked on the details and did the nitty gritty lab work, or equivalent. They probably expanded on the draft and created graphs to make almost a complete paper. The last author is often a high ranking administrator, often with great skill, that probably helped flesh out the original idea, helped overcome some problems, provided invaluable feedback on the paper, but is given authorship mostly because he or she runs the lab or is just nice to have on the paper.

      I don't want to minimize the contributions of Dr. Chu, he probably provided highly valuable technical assistance that allowed the success of the project. At that level, though, the value is the insight, not necessarily the day to day work. If I can cal someone like Dr. Chu to help me overcome a experimental issue, and he can help me out, that is value beyond a price tag.

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  7. Re:He should continue doing useful work... by bunratty · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, don't they know energy is always conserved? How could we ever run out?

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  8. Re:which way is it? by BKX · · Score: 2, Informative

    An object's mass warps space-time. Gravity is the after-effect. (Of course there are issues with that theory but it's a good start.)

  9. Re:Easier to get published by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh, and get a grip, wanker.

    I think that's pretty much the definition of a wanker.

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  10. NO! by Yaos · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's disgusting that we allow this person to be in office. His pro-science methods are incompatible with energy policy, pure and simple.

    1. Re:NO! by Beelzebud · · Score: 5, Funny

      Fucking magnets, how do they work? And I don’t wanna talk to a scientist Y’all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed!

  11. Re:Beats him whinging about Americans being spoile by Myji+Humoz · · Score: 5, Informative

    Americans aren't spoiled compared to most other Westerners? If you actually read the article, he said "The American public ... just like your teenage kids, aren't acting in a way that they should act" with respect to climate change. He seems correct, and I would say that it's a welcome change from PR spinning and political doublespeak.

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  12. Re:He should continue doing useful work... by Jhon · · Score: 2, Informative

    Question: Why was the department of energy created?

    Answer: Out of the oil crisis of the 1970's, it was formed to attempt to free us from dependence on foreign oil.

    Percentage of imported oil in 1977 (when the department was formed): ~35%
    Percentage of imported oil in 2010: ~64%

  13. Re:He should continue doing useful work... by bunratty · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Question: What is the purpose of China's One Child Policy is to decrease the Chinese population?

    Answer: To decrease the Chinese population.

    The Chinese population has nearly doubled since the One Child Policy started.

    But one has to wonder What would the population be today had there been no One Child Policy?

    Critical thinking: It's more that a knee-jerk reaction based on a sound bite.

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  14. Re:He's Qualified Because He's a Nerd? by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I work with people who have titles like "Chief Scientist". Some of them, sure, I'd vote for them for some office or another because I've seen them handle things like management and budget (this is the private sector after all) and how it pertains to pushing the edges of R&D. Concepts like "We can afford *this* cool breakthrough this year. Put *that* even cooler idea in your top drawer, and we'll explore it next year when we'll have more budget, but put hooks into your current design here and here for it so we can leverage the hardware we build this year."

    Others, if they were in charge, well, let's just say I'm not a violent person, but I'd personally lead the rebel army that took them down.

    Scientists are just people. The geekverse needs to let go of this scientist worship. Yes, this country needs to appreciate math and science more and yada yada and all that. I grok that and support it wholeheartedly. I'm ever considering writing a book to reach segments of our society previously written off for such things. But this idea that some here and elsewhere have that scientists are automatically these cool people dedicated to truth, justice and unbiased world views is pure fantasy. I can't even figure out where it came from other than as a reaction to all the religious loonery,

  15. Bottles Preserves by Culture20 · · Score: 3, Funny

    He makes his own Chu Jelly. The blue's okay, but don't eat the purple.

  16. Re:Beats him whinging about Americans being spoile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    He seems correct, and I would say that it's a welcome change from PR spinning and political doublespeak.

    I'm just amazed that someone as smart as Chu would think that you can effectively slow down the locust-like consumption of resources that humans are so good at. I won't begrudge people for TRYING to stop global warming, but really we should be trying to plan for the consequences... this thing is going to happen.

  17. I know this is supposed to be an article where we by Rei · · Score: 4, Interesting

    .. make fun of Chu, but I am such a Chu groupie. A surefire way to draw me to a conference is to announce that he'll be speaking there. ;) I just loved him during his confirmation hearing, how he perked up when finally asked a question that was even remotely technical. "Now we're getting to Science! I love this!" I had read some of his papers before he was even tapped for the position; I was so thrilled to hear he was picked. He really knows his stuff.

    His big weakness is that he's no politician, and he sometimes has trouble keeping is mouth shut from speaking politically inconvenient things. For example, dealing with the hydrogen people... ;)

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  18. He reminds me of GW Bush by Z8 · · Score: 4, Funny

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/bush-finds-error-in-fermilab-calculations,1463/

    Funny, but the fact that it's funny is also sad (sad that it's so ridiculous to think he'd be interested in science). Glad that what was parody is now sorta true.

  19. Re:What about the oil spill? by MobileC · · Score: 2, Funny

    The oil spill is larger than 0.5 nm so there shouldn't be a problem.

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  20. Re:He should continue doing useful work... by Artifakt · · Score: 4, Informative

    Except the Dept was really created to control nuclear applications, both for reactors and bombmaking. It wouldn't have become a Cabinet level post with armed agent personnel without the Nuclear side.

    Here's their mission statement. I've highlighted the Nukestuff:

    The Department of Energy's overarching mission is to advance the national, economic, and energy security of the United States; to promote scientific and technological innovation in support of that mission; and to ensure the environmental cleanup of the national nuclear weapons complex. The Department's strategic goals to achieve the mission are designed to deliver results along five strategic themes:
    Energy Security: Promoting America's energy security through reliable, clean, and affordable energy
    Nuclear Security: Ensuring America's nuclear security
            Scientific Discovery and Innovation: Strengthening U.S. scientific discovery, economic competitiveness, and improving quality of life through innovations in science and technology
    Environmental Responsibility: Protecting the environment by providing a responsible resolution to the environmental legacy of nuclear weapons production
            Management Excellence: Enabling the mission through sound management

    You'll notice that Nuclear related technologies are explicitly mentioned three times, and that, while energy security is about 'reliable, clean and affordable energy', and presumably economic security is referenced again by that 'affordable' bit, there's also the phrase national security as a separable clause.

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  21. Re:You would think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah he is, that's why he's continuing to do things that contribute to America staying on top of the technical bar rather than sinking into further MBAness (which is what got us in this mess in the first place. Too many MBAs, Lawyers, and Politicians, and not enough legal/technical ways to get rid of them :D

  22. Re:You would think... by oiron · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yeah, this is slashdot and all, but it wouldn't kill you to RTFA

    Both were published while he has been energy secretary, but started long before he took the job in January 2009.

  23. Re:You would think... by quanticle · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yeah, that all makes sense, but lets remember that Steven Chu has very little to do with any of the stuff that's going wrong. The DoE is essentially a laboratory, pushing research into new forms of energy generation and transport. Steven Chu knows the limits of his power and expertise and stays well away from fields where he doesn't have the necessary expertise and could do more harm than good. Heck, if more politicians followed his lead and STFU about things they know nothing about, the world would be a lot less fucked up at the moment.

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  24. Re:You would think... by SydShamino · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I would assume, the intelligent man that he is, that he can pay attention to more than one thing at the same time.

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  25. Re:Public Information by SydShamino · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Are you one of those people that think companies should own every creative output of their employees, even ones done at home on their own time on an unrelated topic?

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  26. Not true, nothing new here by ygslash · · Score: 2, Interesting

    TFA states:

    Instead of objects measuring 10 nanometers — thought to be the about the smallest scientists could see using such microscopes — Chu came up with a system using existing technology to see objects... as small as half a nanometer.

    Near-field Scanning Optical Microscopy (NSOM) has been an active area of research for over 25 years, and sub-nanometer aperture instruments have been on the market for over 20 years.

    Unfortunately, neither the poster nor TFA linked Chu's paper, or any other source of real information about Chu's claims. It could very well be that he has done something new and useful, but it sure doesn't sound like it from this article.

    1. Re:Not true, nothing new here by ygslash · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ah, here is Chu's paper: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature09163.html

      So this is conventional far-field microscopy. There is a hard physical limit to the resolution in far-field microscopes, about 250nm. Chu is demonstrating a way to leverage existing knowledge about the sample to coax out more information, e.g., the distance between what is already known to be two distinct fluorescent dots.

      A far cry from "seeing objects" at that scale using far-field microscopy, as claimed by MSNBC. For that, you need near-field.

      I wonder what the advantage could be to using clumsy far-field techniques like that instead of an existing NSOM instrument that is far more sensitive. In fact, the application mentioned in the paper, deciphering "the structure of large, multisubunit biological complexes in biologically relevant environments," is exactly the application that originally sparked the development of NSOM in the 1980's. Though of course NSOM is used for many other applications today.