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Swedish Pirate Party Launches ISP
WillDraven writes "Torrentfreak is reporting that the Swedish Pirate Party has launched an ISP. Starting with 100 residents in a housing organization in the city of Lund, Pirate ISP hopes to gain 5% of the market in Lund before spreading to other markets. Headed by longtime Pirate Party member Gustav Nipe (video interview in English), the company aims to provide Internet service with the sort of guarantees one would expect from the Pirate Party. Most notable are the promises to keep no logs of subscriber activity and thus to provide no data to law enforcement or private corporations."
Please spread to other countries...
That The **AA's are just going to love this idea.
I suspect that they'll just set up bulk mailers to send DMCA notices to this ISP's abuse@ address, every time a new movie, album or anything is released a mail gets sent to abuse@pirateisp.com because no doubt a copy of said work is bound to exist somewhere on their network.
Admit nothing. Deny Everything. Make Counter-accusations.
... people start using it for child pornography transfer and other things that SHOULD be illegal.
...that a special ISP has to be launched to get the type of protections every ISP should have.
how would you feel if i was able to call up and get your IP from this post - then call your ISP and get your address, along with usage logs so i can approximate when you will be home.
then i'll just go sit on your door step and say hi and talk to your neighbors that i'm just watching you for suspicious activity because you where online talking about keywords "child pornography & terrorism"
now - does it make a difference if i'm wearing a uniform or not?
what if i was a politician and you happened to say something negative about my campaign?
the point is - that we need an avenue for free speech - we need an avenue to be able to anonymous. do people abuse that? yes they do - should we penalize all of society to a nanny/police state for the few? NO..
'...if only "Jumping to a Conclusion" was an event in the Olympics.'
How much will it be per month? How much can I transfer per month? Is there a time when downloading is unlimited (such as weekends or between 10pm and 8am). Will they throttle the line during peak hours? What speed can I expect?
Logging my BT transfers is the least of my concerns when choosing an ISP.
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"... this age of terrorism and child pornography ..."
What the hell? You think this age is "different" some how?
Terrorism is certainly not rampant. Look back a few decades, to say, the fifties or the sixties when there were riots all over the USA.
Child Pornography, hell. Look back a century, "children" were getting married to middle-aged men and having their babies. The only difference is, back then nobody arrested you for it, or even thought twice about it.
"This age" is noted only for everybody being declared a criminal and living in fear that their government is going to lock them up if they happen to say something ... like, say, this post on SlashDot RIGHT HERE.
"Flame away, I wear asbestos underwear"
Would that be Pirate_Party.arg?
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That's going to be fun for the admins when the server falls over and they need to figure out why. /var/log is there for a reason.
-- I have a private email server in my basement.
the health and physical well-being of my family and neighborhood
Let me put you and your family in a prison I design and I'd be almost certain that your health and physical well-being will be ensured. I'm not sure you'd enjoy it much, though.
That is all.
I would assume via normal police investigation. You know the kind of stuff you would not need a warrant for.
You can wiretap other wire than just the phone lines, dummy. With a warrent, no need to be logging everything before.
I guess we should come to expect this level of cowardice from english folks.
in this age of terrorism and child pornography
You say that as though terrorism was something even slightly new (it isn't, and has been going on for centuries, if not millennia), and as though child pornography is anything more than child abuse (which isn't even limited to our species it goes so far back) with a camera.
Should we go after Kodak for making child porn possible, or after Polaroid for making it easy to anonymise?
I'm sure nothing bad could ever happen from a group calling itself the "Pirate Party" taking money to provide internet services for the purpose of illegal activities.
Look past the "Pirate" and see the "Party". Should the Pirate Party get elected to a national legislature within the next decade or so, watch illegal activities become legal.
The stupid pirate party and the stupid Swedish government have just handed a huge propaganda victory to the RIAA. Within a week the entire swedish economy will have ground to a halt and terrorists will be overrunning sweden and building WMDs! Then the RIAA will say "We told you so! Look what happens when ordinary people are allowed freedom!"
They whose government reduces their essential liberties for temporary security, receive neither liberty nor security.
Child Pornography, hell. Look back a century, "children" were getting married to middle-aged men and having their babies. The only difference is, back then nobody arrested you for it, or even thought twice about it.
I know, that always kills me. People try to say that they're "kids", yet not that long ago they would be married at that age. Hell, people try to talk down on teenagers and say that they're stupid and such, but it's only because society changed to make them less responsible. 100 years ago many of those high schoolers would have had a job and a family already. That's how things were for thousands of years, then all of the sudden society goes batshit crazy and decides that anyone under 30 is incompetent and needs the government to tell them what they can and cannot do.
I'm all for punishing people who intentionally harm others. However, I'm not for having blanket rules because a few old people who had crappy lives decide that they know better than everyone else.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." ~Thomas Jefferson
Not that much, actually. The apprentice system tended to keep teens under their master's thumbs.
They don't need to get elected, they just need to get sufficient recognition. In a truly diverse parliament (read: not the US), a party with 10% has enough influence to make other parties take them seriously.
In fact, it has already happened in Finland: remember that story on how the government asked the PP's opinion on the change on the wifi law?
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And really, in this age of terrorism and child pornography is it even a good idea to have an anonymous isp?
Yes, in this age of very real abuse of our rights in freedoms for the sake of fighting largely imaginary and/or irrelevant threats such as terrrorism and child pornography, it is an extremely good idea to have an anonymous ISP.
Oh yes, the promise to pay for a one-way ticket to North Korea applies to you as well, and I'm dead serious here: you get your Big Brother wet dream come true (with minor inconveniences such as a mostly-grass diet, but it's a small price for safety, isn't it?), and we get one less person who is eager to vote away his and others' freedoms that make up the cornerstone of the modern Western society.