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If You Don't Want Your Car Stolen, Make It Pink

pickens writes "A study in the Netherlands illustrates car thieves' preferences. From 2004-2008, the most commonly colored vehicle stolen was black. This may be because black vehicles look more luxurious. Following close behind black were gray/silver automobiles. Of the 109 pink cars in the study, not one was stolen. A bright and uncommon color, like pink, may be as effective deterrent as an expensive security system. Ben Vollaard, who conducted the research, wrote, 'If the aversion to driving a car in an offbeat color is not too high – or if someone actually enjoys it – then buying deterrence through an uncommon car color may be at least as good a deal as buying deterrence through an expensive car security device.'"

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  1. Hm... by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Of course, if everyone who didn't want their car stolen drove a pink car, then thieves would start stealing pink cars, and some other color would become the least popular.

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    1. Re:Hm... by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think that analogy fails: the technical differences between operating systems are a bit more significant than the technical differences between car colors. I could be wrong, though, and it may also be the case that nobody is painting a car worth stealing pink...

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    2. Re:Hm... by ericspinder · · Score: 2, Funny

      Using a tech analogy to explain a car issue just doesn't have the same feeling as it does the other way around. Good try though.

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    3. Re:Hm... by rtaylor · · Score: 2, Informative

      Both operating systems allow a user program to access, modify, and delete content in the users home directory; can automatically start background tasks at user login by modifying .profile or .bashrc or similar; and will allow external communications for user executed programs on high ports.

      A trojan would work just as well with a person on Linux as it does for that same person on Windows but the odds of that person using Linux at the moment is lower and there isn't critical mass for it to spread.

      I'm far far more protective of the contents of /home than I am /usr. Do whatever you want to /usr, it takes less than 10 minutes to reinstall but the contents of /home can represent significantly more work.

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    4. Re:Hm... by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That is terrible logic. It assumes that either a) everybody (or a least a majority) cares more about their car getting stolen than its color or b) thieves care more about the motivation of owners' choice of colors than the color itself.

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    5. Re:Hm... by robthebloke · · Score: 5, Funny

      After my 3rd cycle was stolen in a year, I spray painted my new bike bright pink, put spokey-dokeys on it, and attached a large rainbow flag to the back. I've now managed to keep the same bike for over a year! (Admittedly, I now get a lot of people shouting words like 'gay' and 'bender' when i cycle past. In hindsight I should have probably thought about that before welding the flagpole on.... )

    6. Re:Hm... by grumbel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The only significant difference between Linux and the rest is how you get software. In Linux you get by far most of it from your distribution, on Windows you get most stuff from more or less trustworthy webpages, so it is much easier to catch something evil by accident.

      In terms of actual security there really isn't much difference, as neither OS properly isolates applications by default and thus every evil tool has far more permissions then it needs.

    7. Re:Hm... by troc · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Linux servers don't generally hang about in the average family home being badly managed by the average non-techy person like the average Windows box does :)

      Linux servers are usually seen hanging out in specially constructed and managed server farms (a.k.a. dungeons), administrated by gangs of pale, bespectacled geeks and BOFHs and generally up to date with decent security.

      to get slightly back on topic, the only pink cars I see in Holland tend to be bubblegum pink Nissan Micras, poverty-spec MINIs plastered with estate agency stickers and random old stuff that's been hand-painted by hippies. None of these would be particularly attractive targets even if they were black.

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    8. Re:Hm... by hedwards · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Thieves do care about the motivation of the owner's choice of color more than the color itself. The reason why they don't steal pink cars is that they stick out and are quickly spotted. Were it to become the dominant color it would be stolen far more frequently than it is now. Thieves like Black and grey cars simply because they blend in to the background. It's a stupid suggestion by the summary that it has to do with the luxurious look, that's bullshit, thieves choose based upon what's easy, profitable and available. It's no surprise that they choose the ones that blend into the background first.

    9. Re:Hm... by hedwards · · Score: 4, Funny

      Color, no, but driving a Prius requires you to forget how to drive and act generally dickishly when behind the wheel.

    10. Re:Hm... by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Cool car. Shows how progress really isn't and how we're gradually getting poorer physically.

      Try sticking a probe up the tailpipe and running an emissions test before you say that. This car was technologically advanced for its day. My 1982 MBZ 300SD is a diesel, probably gets similar emissions overall, and gets 30 mpg. A 1990s Golf TDI gets 50 mpg freeway and has even better emissions. It's not that it's not possible, it's that we're buyin' what they're sellin'.

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    11. Re:Hm... by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 4, Informative

      There is another significant difference: there is no "Linux monoculture," the way there is a "Windows monoculture." If I tell you that I use Linux, I am not really telling you much -- as a case in point, plenty of people look at my monitor and ask, "What the heck operating system is that?!" because they have never seen e16 before. Even a basic trojan would stand out if a user did not have the particular environment that the author thinks they have -- a KDE user will be harder to fool with a trojan that was intended for GNOME users.

      As another example, consider the number of viruses that exploit buffer overflows in Windows Media Player. I have seen these files, played in another media player, and they display a simple message: to play this properly, use Windows Media Player. Would such a strategy work for a desktop Linux user? Well, again, which media player would you target? There is no one universally installed media player across different distros or different "flavors" of a single distro. Your trojan is going to be less successful if you need to force people to open their package manager and search for a given media player first.

      These sort of things basically dull the impact of viruses. It is still possible to write viruses, of course, but it will be harder to spread a single virus as rapidly.

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    12. Re:Hm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Painting my brand new bike with ugly fluorescent colors in combination with a very good lock did the trick for me. The lock can only be cut by a diamond saw used by professional thieves, and they cannot sell the bike anymore for a reasonable price. The amateurs who don't care about the color cannot steal the bike because of the hardened lock. The combination is perfect. See this blog article for the details how I transformed my new bike into a ugly but more thieve resistant bike.

    13. Re:Hm... by Belial6 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think the diversity of Linux vs. the weakness of the MS mono-culture is pretty much a myth. Not %100, but enough that it isn't a valid argument. The vast majority of users are running either Ubuntu or Fedora. XP and Windows 7 have have as much of a difference as Ubuntu and Fedora. Sure there are other distros out there, but pointing them out is a little like pointing out that some people still run win98. Then, you have to consider that the people who would run a Linux distro that is not Ubuntu or Fedora are the kind of people that would specifically go out and search for different options. Those people would be the ones already running Linux and Non-Ubuntu/Fedora OSes. If you brought all of the Windows users over to Linux, 98% of them would end up on Ubuntu.

      As for targeting the applications, Gnome or KDE... Exactly the same issue as with the rest of the OS. You write two simple front ends. One for KDE and one for Gnome, or you just hope the user doesn't notice that you are using the wrong widgets. It is the exact same issue as malware on various versions of windows. Media players? Target VLC or MPlayer. Even better target any of the libraries that get heavily reused like the ogg decoder.

      If you target any application that is installed by default by both Fedora and Ubuntu, you have targeted most users, and the percentage would only rise with more users switching from Windows.

    14. Re:Hm... by marcosdumay · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "The vast majority of users are running either Ubuntu or Fedora."

      Or Susie, or plain Debian, or slackware. From the Distrowatcher, Debian based distros are the mos common, they are 1/3 of them. Of course, saying "Debian based" isn't enough information for an attacker (unless he targets synaptic, or should he target aptitude instead?), the most used is Ubuntu (all versions of it) with something near 20% of the instalations. So, the best you can target at is 1/5 of the population. Also, Ubuntu systems are mostly low profile, if you want to get the best computers, you'll have to go for Red Hat (the most used on that segment), and you'll discover that from the point of view of the attacker, one Red Hat install (or any distro on a hight profile system) differs way more from another HR install (even of the same version) than a Windows NT install differs from a Windows 2008 one.

      Anyway, diversity alone is not the end all explanation for Linux machines not being infected so often. Usability, bug count, the expertize of users and admins, and even the smaller number of instalations (on some segments) are also important.

  2. Tonight in COPS! by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 3, Funny

    Nobody wants to be that guy on youtube arrested at the wheel of a pink Miata.

    1. Re:Tonight in COPS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh please! He was driving 65 in a 30 zone while wearing a blond wig, lipstick, G-string, fishnet stocking and fuck-me shoes.

      He wanted to get caught honey.

  3. Solution to theft by quatin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Have stuff nobody wants.

    1. Re:Solution to theft by xSauronx · · Score: 4, Funny

      this is why the patch cables I buy are purple....haven't lost a single one yet

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    2. Re:Solution to theft by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 4, Funny

      This reminds me of one of the IT guys where I work. When I was tasked with setting up a new server for my research group, he loaned me a screwdriver...and it was pink. He said he had held on to it since the early 80s, because nobody wanted a pink screwdriver.

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    3. Re:Solution to theft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      he loaned me a screwdriver...and it was pink.

      Maybe it's some sort of code.

    4. Re:Solution to theft by grimJester · · Score: 3, Funny

      My red stapler always disappears. I've thought about pink, but I like my red stapler.

    5. Re:Solution to theft by Reilaos · · Score: 2, Funny

      Thanks. Now I'll never be raped.

    6. Re:Solution to theft by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 5, Interesting

      There's a similar trick for wrenches in a machine shop. There's a couple sizes of wrench that are extremely common for changing tools on a mill/lathe. What you do is buy a combo wrench (one with a wrench on both ends) and use a chop saw or plasma cutter to cut off the worthless end of the wrench. The wrench still works great for changing tools, but no one steals it because no one wants a "broken" wrench in their toolbox.

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    7. Re:Solution to theft by kaizendojo · · Score: 3, Funny

      Or maybe that wasn't a screwdriver he was handing him....

    8. Re:Solution to theft by Aphoxema · · Score: 5, Funny

      he loaned me a screwdriver...and it was pink.

      Maybe it's some sort of code.

      Yeah, "Don't fucking steal my screwdriver."

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    9. Re:Solution to theft by Aphoxema · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My dad drove a POS 94 Ford Ranger up until a few months ago and he never locked the doors. The only time it was broken into in the whole time he owned it was when kids were going around the movie theater parking lot stealing change out of cars. I bet they made a whole lot of money doing that...

      I had a cousin who never locked his doors because if someone was going to steal his shit he didn't want them breaking his windows to do it. Eventually someone got into his car to steal his stereo, but even though the doors were unlocked they had smashed the driver side window.

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    10. Re:Solution to theft by tophermeyer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Electricians I used to work with would replace the guts of their old broken power tools with the guts of the new shiny ones, leaving the old busted plastic casing.

      To be funny, they would then put the old guts into the new shiny cases and leave them lying around for people to find and steal. Eventually people stopped stealing tools from their job sites because even their new pretty tools didn't work.

    11. Re:Solution to theft by Culture20 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I like having different colored cables all in the same switch/patch panel. Makes rats nests easier to deal with. Pink, purple, chartruse, aqua, brown, tan, yellow, red, blue, black, gray, green. I got lotsa colors.

    12. Re:Solution to theft by toxonix · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't lock my doors or roll up the windows. The only time I roll up the windows is if its raining, and I'm actually driving. I leave them down in the rain. Truck has holes in the floor, so rain just drains out. No problem. I also don't have the door keys, just the ignition. Is a big white rusty truck, so nobody messes with it anyway. I have lots of tools under and behind the bench seat, but nobody bothers to look in a truck that looks like it was borrowed from a Afghan warlord. Does NOT work for picking up girls. Not at all.

    13. Re:Solution to theft by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Is that a screwdriver in your hand or are you just happy to see me?"

  4. Maybe it's simpler than that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Perhaps the thieves prefer to drive something hard to pick out of a crowd?

    Pretty easy to find the stolen pink anything. Not as easy to find the stolen blue Civic. If you have a choice of cars (and in most cases thieves do) you'd pick something you can get away with for longer.

    1. Re:Maybe it's simpler than that. by Third+Position · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe it's just harder to steal a car which usually has it's tires slashed.

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  5. Or you could by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Drive a stick shift :)

    1. Re:Or you could by Theoboley · · Score: 5, Funny

      I second this. I remember reading a story where a car was about to pull away from a gas station, and the jacker, while pointing the gun and screaming at the driver to get out, noticed the car was a Manual and exclaimed "Oh Shit" and Ran off.

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    2. Re:Or you could by tekrat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Right on.

      I remember reading about a woman who pulled into her own driveway and was then "carjacked" by two guys that had followed her. But she drove stick, and the theives had no idea how to operate the car. She's rolling around on her lawn laughing her ass off while the two guys kept stalling the car. They eventually fled the scene in the car they had arrived in.

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    3. Re:Or you could by sznupi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not in the Netherlands; and most of the world for that matter.

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    4. Re:Or you could by Amarantine · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's a study done in the Netherlands. Most people there drive a stick shift. My parents are about the only people i know driving automatic transmissions. It's considered a luxury.

    5. Re:Or you could by KDR_11k · · Score: 2, Informative

      He was probably not planning to pull the trigger. Murder isn't easy to get away with.

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    6. Re:Or you could by Aphoxema · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah, that's smart. Discharging a gun at a gas station, of all places. He really didn't think things through, did he?

      I suspect most people who use firearms to try to coerce people don't actually intend to use them until alternatives have been exhausted.

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    7. Re:Or you could by natehoy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Tell me about it. Sheesh.

      I went to France on business a couple of years ago, and the company's French travel agent assumed that, since I was American, of course I wanted "ze very large auto with ze automatique, and you want to be picked up at ze airport, yes?"

      After a very long conversation, I got train tickets from Paris to Orleans, a map of the subway system including a few markings where they had rent-a-locker places available for my luggage, and a manual-shift Yaris waiting for me in Orleans (which was an amazingly fun little car that hadn't quite reached the US at the time).

      Had a great if initially confusing time riding the Paris subway system to the train station, locked up my bags at a rent-a-locker place, toured Paris on foot/subway for a good chunk of a day, then took the train to Orleans to get my car.

      The woman at the train station, after I managed in my poor French to get across who I was, tried to tell me that there was some sort of mistake. The gist of what she was saying was "You are American and this is a small manual car, there must be some horrible mistake. I am very sorry that the car rental agency is closed, they only left me the key, I will call you a cab which we will pay for and the rental agency will have a larger automatic car delivered to your hotel early tomorrow morning." After nearly an hour of stumbling with funny gestures and my poor French (she was incredibly good-natured about my mangling of her language), I was able to tell her that the car was in fact what I had requested, and was told that I was pretty OK, "for an American", and got my key and directions to the car. :)

      Damn good thing I got a small car, too. Those streets are NARROW. But most of my travels in Orleans were done on foot anyway. The only thing I needed the car for was to get to work on the outskirts of town.

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    8. Re:Or you could by sznupi · · Score: 2, Informative

      Less control could still be irritating sometimes - when I see a stretch where higher torque at the wheels might get handy, I want to have it instantly at the push of gas pedal; hence downshifting in advance. Heck, with how often I use the engine to return steering wheel to "neutral" after a bend, I probably prefer to be sure that the gear ratio will certainly remain constant.

      Now, if only people tought themselves to regularly brake with an engine; that's, I guess, a beauty of automatic - it kinda goes with it?

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  6. Resale Value by bencollier · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Of course, the crazy colour will also affect resale value, so the money you save in insurance you lose in depreciation.

  7. Only part of the story by Palestrina · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For example, pink cars might garner a greater degree of derision, leading to a greater incidence of vandalism. They might be pulled over more for speeding. Their owners might be more often victims of other crimes. Mechanics might inflate prices more.

    What you want to look at is the "total cost of ownership" for the car over a period of time, as a function of color.

  8. Top Gear already demonstrated this... by kazade84 · · Score: 3, Funny
  9. This sounds familiar... by Lindril · · Score: 2, Funny

    If you don't want viruses, run Linux!

  10. Sanrio's Next Wave of Products by tekrat · · Score: 4, Funny

    The "Hello Kitty Car".

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    1. Re:Sanrio's Next Wave of Products by Xemu · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The "Hello Kitty Car".

      They are way ahead of you. Outside. And inside.

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  11. Re:resale by DarkGreenNight · · Score: 4, Funny

    If only there was some way to replace the paint colors with colors of our own choosing. If only we possessed that level of technology...

    from : http://leasticoulddo.com/comic/20100719

  12. Re:How to fail with statistics by guyminuslife · · Score: 4, Informative

    All of them. At least, new-ish cars in the Netherlands, in 2004-2008. ...you could have easily looked that up, TFA links to its sources.

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  13. Re:More lies with statistics... by guyminuslife · · Score: 4, Informative

    Zero. There were exactly zero pink cars stolen. (The study, if you had bothered to look at it, includes all reported thefts of all cars less than 3 years old in the Netherlands from 2004-2008).

    I really hate it when people start prattling along about errors with statistics when they don't bother looking at the actual statistics.

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  14. Direct link to the study by Xest · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here:

    http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/5262

    I generally agree with you though, I'm not sure the conclusions are valid from what's given. It basically says 0.26% of black cars, the most stolen colour, get stolen, whilst 0.16% of red cars, the least stolen get stolen. Apparently there's something like 6.8 million vehicles in the Netherlands, but it's hard from the data to tell how many cars this actually translates to in practice, particularly as the graph given changes over time, and older cars will most likely be off the road. I'm sure you could figure it out by averaging the amount bought over the period and factor in an exponential decrease in those taken off the road, but it'd be more reasonable if the author had done this. The very fact he does seem to have basically left things half finished and come to a conclusion without providing better supporting evidence and clearer data does leave me a little skeptical I'll admit, the level of work done would be fine for a high school science class, but for a professor of economics? a bit of a poor show to be honest.

  15. I knew this since high school by Ayanami_Rei_II · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Back in high school, I mostly used mechanical pencils. But I kept breaking them: the metal tips snap off usually within a week of use. Maybe I press down too hard, or they just make shitty pencils where I live.

    So I imported from Japan a few very well made--but obviously expensive--mechanical pencils. They have no problem taking my abuse. However, I ended up losing all of them over the course of the semester. I sometimes lend one to a classmate, but I didn't always get it back. I don't think they kept it on purpose, but they simply forgot to return it.

    Next semester, I had to import another batch, but I got one in pink. And since then, I only lend out the pink one. I still have most of the pencils I bought then, including the pink one.

    You might think that this strategy will only work ~50% of the time, but since I'm posting this on /. you should be able to figure out why I beat the odds.

  16. Pink cigarettes by pmcevoy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've always thought that more people would quit smoking, if cigarettes were pink...

  17. Child seats = problem solved by evilandi · · Score: 2, Funny

    Two baby seats (twins) plus one child seat seems to have solved the car theft problem for me. These days the only lock I bother with on the car is the one that stops the little blighters from opening the doors from the inside.

    If someone stole the stereo and the collection of children's song CDs from the car, I'd consider that a blessing. Well, apart from Lazytown, which sounds similar enough to Scooter that I might miss it.

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  18. Re:Pink everything, including ponies!@£ by sznupi · · Score: 2, Informative

    Societal norms would quickly change anyway. Less than a century ago, in western culture, blue was the color for girls...and pink for boys.

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  19. Re:More lies with statistics... by sznupi · · Score: 3, Funny

    Did you really just put this disclaimer in a reply to the post ending with "I really hate it when people start prattling along about errors with statistics when they don't bother looking at the actual statistics"?...

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  20. Actually... No. It is quite the opposite. by denzacar · · Score: 5, Informative

    From TFA:

    http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/5262

    It's resale value, not the fear of getting caught

    Is it only resale value that drives the preference of thieves for cars in common exterior colours or does the probability of apprehension also play a role?
    The recent history of car theft gives us some idea. Red is obviously a bright colour that attracts attention - including that of the police.
    Red is also a colour that has fallen out of fashion since the turn of the century (Figure 1).
    In the beginning of the 1990s around 25% of all new cars were red, now the number is close to 5%.
    The decline of red doesn't only go for the Netherlands, but is a worldwide trend according data from DuPont.
    If thieves are primarily interested in resale value and do not care much about being spotted in a bright coloured car, then we should see higher rates of theft for red cars in the 1990s.
    That is exactly what we find. Figure 3 shows that, just with the colour silver/grey, the popularity of red in new car sales is tightly linked with the prevalence of red among stolen cars.
    This suggests that car thieves do not seem to be particularly worried about being picked out from traffic by police.

    Figure 3. Popularity of colour in new car sales vs. theft risk by colour, the Netherlands
    http://www.voxeu.org/sites/default/files/image/Vollaardfig3.png

    Source: CBS/RDW

    Conclusion

    Differences in theft rates between cars in common and uncommon colour suggest that resale value is on the mind of car thieves.
    We find evidence that it is indeed the resale value rather than the fear of getting caught that is driving this difference.
    If the aversion to driving a car in an offbeat colour is not too high - or if someone actually enjoys it - then buying deterrence through an uncommon car colour may be at least as good a deal as buying deterrence through an expensive car security device.

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  21. Re:How to fail with statistics by gurps_npc · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Your grasp of statistics is poor. Consider the effect if there were only a SINGLE pink car in a study. Then when you say 0 pink cars were stolen, your study is no better than me saying my car has never been stolen. Now imagine what would have happened if the single guy with a pink car happened to have his car towed for illegally parking and didn't realized what had happened till after the article was published. Now you have 100% of pink cars being stolen. Sample size is ALWAYS important, regardless of the percentage.

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  22. Works on underwear too by jmichaelg · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When my boys were growing up, they were constantly stealing my underwear. I made them do their own laundry but they didn't get to that chore as often as they should have so they felt free, despite my protests, to dip into my underwear drawer. Nothing worked until I died my shorts pink.

    My girlfriend thought it was funny but I was just happy to be able to rely on having a clean stash of underwear.

    1. Re:Works on underwear too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      When my boys were growing up, they were constantly stealing my underwear.

      For some reason, I assumed you were female until I read the whole post. It made that first sentence really creepy :)

  23. I would rather... by ashtophoenix · · Score: 2, Funny

    have it stolen than color it pink.

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  24. Re:More lies with statistics... by AndersOSU · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, if you really want to be pedantic (and this is /., so who doesn't?), the 95% upper confidence interval of 0 events out of 109 is 2.7%. This does not compare favorably to the average risk of car theft of ~0.25%. I'd need more data to calculate the confidence intervals for risk of theft for black or average cars, but it's likely to be much tighter than +/- 2.5% given the total number of car sold.

    So the only think you can say from this study is that there's insufficient data to determine whether pink cars are more or less at risk than cars of another color.

  25. Re:More lies with statistics... by Idarubicin · · Score: 2, Informative

    I really hate it when people start prattling along about errors with statistics when they don't bother looking at the actual statistics.

    And I really hate it when others start prattling about errors with statistics when they don't know when to take an adequate sample.

    In the linked 'study', we find that the highest risk category is for black cars, with a theft risk of approximately 0.25% during the length of the study. We also learn that the number of pink vehicles included in the study is just 109.

    If car thieves had an identical preference for pink cars and black cars (don't ask me why), then in a sample this size, there's still only about a 25% chance that any of the pink cars would be stolen over the study period. The sample is too small to draw any meaningful conclusions. It could be that car thieves desperately want to take pink cars, but are having too much trouble finding them.

    The data used in this study are insufficient to show that pink cars are less likely to be stolen than the other less-common colors; they aren't even a big enough sample to show that pink cars are safer than the most-stolen colors.

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  26. Non-relevant statistics? by cowboy76Spain · · Score: 2, Interesting


    With a mean probability of 0.1% of theft (at least it looks close to it in the charts, I do not have the study numbers), a sample size of 109 cars may be too small.
    To put an analogy, think that a medical researcher goes to a city of 10.000 people and finds that there are 10 cancer patients, and when he goes to the village with 100 people then claims that there is some kind of cancer cure in that village because there are no cancer patients in it.... Hardly significative at all..

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  27. My pink $3mil Bugatti won't be stolen? by Maarek · · Score: 2, Informative

    I highly doubt the case. The pink cars are always a repaint. Theives know that pink is not a color that is sold off a car lot. But, paint a Porsche, Lexus, Bugatti, etc pink, and the car will still be stolen.

  28. Already knew that... by Skal+Tura · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I drove for 4-5 years a pink car. It was a type of car likely to be stolen, in an area where cars are being stolen quite frequently, in a visible, big parking area, where practically no one was watching if there's a car being stolen.

    Car was easy to steal type, many cars like that even a ice cream stick was enough of a key, on top of that the trunk couldn't be locked so you could get inside from there, and if that's not enough i frequently forgot to lock the doors. It was never stolen, or attempted even.

    Not only that, but all the girls were curious about it always ;) It drew eyes like a magnet everytime i drove it around, and girls came talking to me at times just because how the car looked, yet the car had about nothing special in it's looks other than being pink.

    Best color for a car, ever.