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Tribalism Is the Enemy Within, Says Shuttleworth

climenole points out a post from Canonical founder Mark Shuttleworth about internal strife in the free software community. He wrote, "Tribalism is when one group of people start to think people from another group are 'wrong by default.' It's the great-granddaddy of racism and sexism. And the most dangerous kind of tribalism is completely invisible: it has nothing to do with someone's 'birth tribe' and everything to do with their affiliations: where they work, which sports team they support, which Linux distribution they love. ... Right now, for a number of reasons, there is a fever pitch of tribalism in plain sight in the free software world. It's sad. It's not constructive. It's ultimately going to be embarrassing for the people involved, because the Internet doesn't forget. It's certainly not helping us lift free software to the forefront of public expectations of what software can be."

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  1. Crap by overshoot · · Score: 2, Funny
    Shuttleworth again? Who cares what he thinks? Debian weenies are bad enough, and Ubuntu isn't even real Debian.

    Ignore him.

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  2. Typical. by LaminatorX · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just the sort of intellectual whining I'd expect from an Ubunt-dude.

  3. Re:Politics by enderjsv · · Score: 5, Funny

    And the other 20% is stupidity.

  4. Atari vs. Commodore by commodore64_love · · Score: 3, Funny

    ST vs. Amiga

    Mac vs. Amiga

    Mac vs. IBM PC

    Windows vs. Linux

    Republicans vs. Democrats

    Racists (R) vs. Racists (D)

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    1. Re:Atari vs. Commodore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      registered users vs. Anonymous Coward

  5. Tribalism? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... there is a fever pitch of tribalism in plain sight in the free software world.

    It's called Open Source. Get it right!

  6. Re:So drop out and there will be one less "tribe" by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1, Funny

    Kind of like the Common Climate Pattern deniers?

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  7. 'wrong by default' people are wrong? by Kenja · · Score: 2, Funny

    People who think people from another group are 'wrong by default' are wrong!

    If this was Startrek the androids head would now explode.

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  8. Re:So drop out and there will be one less "tribe" by MozeeToby · · Score: 2, Funny

    So tribalism == politics. Got it!

  9. Re:So drop out and there will be one less "tribe" by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1, Funny

    Teabaggers aren't racist, just wrong.

  10. Re:Public expectations... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hardly. Windows users' expectations of software are that it will crash too often and it'll be complicated to the point of unusability. Free software supports 4096 hot swappable CPUs.

    Fixed

  11. Re:So drop out and there will be one less "tribe" by metamatic · · Score: 2, Funny

    He didn't seem at all to be saying there should be a mono-culture.

    I see what you did there.

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  12. Re:Trolls, Offtopic, Flamebait by Reginald2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Mod this one down. I disagree with it's sentiment.

  13. of course Tribalism is the problem... by Darth_brooks · · Score: 2, Funny

    Unfortunately, at this stage, changing civics would cause civil unrest, and we're only three turns away from finishing the Oracle, and five turns away from the Pyramids.....

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  14. Re:Public expectations... by Tinctorius · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sorry, Linux won't support scissoring until 2.6.38, the patch is still pending. And by patch I mean dental dam.

  15. Re:Public expectations... by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2, Funny

    "The public expectations of software are not particularly rigorous -- it shouldn't crash too often, it should look moderately pretty, and it should get them on the web. Done, done, and done. Can we go back to arguing and tribalism now?"

    Which is why I no longer run Ubuntu. I found it terrible and the least stable Linux Distro. I am shocked people stand by it as it makes Windows look far supperior. My wife wont touch it anymore with a ten foot pull and was happy to return to Vista. Tribalism and inertia really put most of the Linux users with Ubuntu and its hard to convince them of anything else.

  16. Re:Trolls, Offtopic, Flamebait by shallot · · Score: 2, Funny

    Mod this one down. I disagree with it's sentiment.

    I disagree with whatever you have to say simply because you're pissing off Bob :)