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Indian Police Using Facebook to Catch Scofflaw Drivers

New Delhi police have a new weapon in the battle against bad drivers, Facebook. Two months ago the police created a Facebook page that allowed people to inform on others breaking traffic laws, and upload pictures of the violations. The page has more than 17,000 fans, and 3,000 pictures currently. From the article: "The online rap sheet was impressive. There are photos of people on motorcycles without helmets, cars stopped in crosswalks, drivers on cellphones, drivers in the middle of illegal turns and improperly parked vehicles. Using the pictures, the Delhi Traffic Police have issued 665 tickets, using the license plate numbers shown in the photos to track vehicle owners, said the city’s joint commissioner of traffic, Satyendra Garg."

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  1. ah this will be fun by Dyinobal · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Just make a copy of a government officials plate put it on your car and runs some red lights while a friend takes pictures to post.

    1. Re:ah this will be fun by Peter+Mork · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This type of shenanigan is already being done in Montgomery County (Maryland). High school students first find a teacher that owns a vehicle that resembles one they own. They then print out a fake license plate, tape it over their own license plate, and blow through a speed camera at a high velocity. It shouldn't take long for Indians to replicate this game.

    2. Re:ah this will be fun by BangaIorean · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You'd need the same make of car, same color, same dents and bruises on the car body (if any), and so on. I doubt if traffic violators would bother to take the trouble.

      Stuff like this is the only way to get indisciplined Indian drivers to fall in line. In Indian cities like New Delhi, Bangalore and Mumbai around 1000 new vehicles are added on the road EVERYDAY (and that's in each city). Imagine the tremendous pressure on the cops to maintain order. Given the statistics, it's a wonder that traffic even runs normally on the roads!! I am all for this extremely innovative use of tech.

    3. Re:ah this will be fun by BangaIorean · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "I think your easy fix solution to a very difficult problem might not work!"

      It does work. I drive almost 54 kilometers daily in Bangalore, and I have seen the result of the traffic police's punitive drives. One can literally see a difference. Your argument essentially is on the lines of, 'Orientals' are culturally disposed towards rule breaking, and Afghans are culturally disposed towards terrorism. I call BS. Singapore is full of 'orientals' too - in fact, one in three Singaporeans is a first generation Indian. Singapore traffic and discipline is much better than the US. What about Japan? Taiwan? South Korea? In India too, various cities have different levels of traffic indiscipline - how would you explain that?

    4. Re:ah this will be fun by Kitkoan · · Score: 3, Informative

      For those curious, here is the article about that. 2

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    5. Re:ah this will be fun by Agyani · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The only way you explain that is because, in India (I live here) in the end people just say "everything goes" they don't care about anything more then themselves. This selfish attitude as well as bad time management is the cause of all the traffic problem. Take for example, the roads will be free till 8.00am but by 9.00am when mostly everyone should be in office, you will find the road is congested like it was this way forever (at least in Delhi and NCR region) Stop getting worked up because someone calls us (Indians) the way they are, the fact is we have created a mess and we should be humble to accept it instead of talking about being Orientals.

  2. In America by qoncept · · Score: 3, Funny

    There are photos of people on motorcycles without helmets, cars stopped in crosswalks, drivers on cellphones, drivers in the middle of illegal turns and improperly parked vehicles.

    I can't even imagine seeing all that!

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  3. Drivers using their cellphones... by Fishead · · Score: 3, Funny

    What about pictures of drivers using their cellphones to take pictures of drivers using their cellphones to get first post on Slashdot?

    1. Re:Drivers using their cellphones... by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yo dawg, I heard you liked bad drivers so we've instituted a new policy to encourage bad driving to catch bad drivers who are trying to catch other bad drivers.

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  4. Oh god no by ZeroExistenZ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They opensourced policing!

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  5. Re:Good idea but I see too much chance for abuse by Tom · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because everything is bad if there is the theoretical possibility that it could potentially be abused?

    So, logically, you should shut down your firewall and disable the virus scanner. There's a chance they might not help. And they diminish the performance. Someone could even abuse them.

    Look, this is what the court system is for. Yes, there will probably be a few abuse cases. The vast majority will be found out quickly and easily, very few people have really good photoshop skills.

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  6. Slippery Slope by gbrandt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That sounds like a very slippery slope.

  7. Re:turn people against one another... by retech · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So India is a communist block country now?

    And in case you have not heard, people of been reporting their neighbors forever in the US.

  8. Re:I did this after my last ticket... by FinchWorld · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Thats quite lucky, judges take a dim view of people trying to pin something on the police. Remember, the police cannot be seen to do wrong, else no one will respect them, or so judges rule anyway.

    And in anycase, your defence seems to admit you were speeding, but thats ok because other people do, those other people aren't the ones being charged though. If you were in traffic whilst speeding the only real defence I know that has worked was the "Keeping with the flow of traffic" as to avoid wild overtaking by other people and some such.

    However, I am not a lawyer.

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  9. Re:stating the obvious.. by BangaIorean · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And why, exactly do you assume that the persons who photograph other drivers should necessarily be drivers? Ever heard of 'pedestrians'? Or maybe, drivers waiting at a red light?

  10. Re:Good idea but I see too much chance for abuse by nospam007 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Yes, there will probably be a few abuse cases. The vast majority will be found out quickly and easily, very few people have really good photoshop skills."

    You don't need much to waste a civil servant's time. Just thousand of false positives and images with cars in it.

  11. Crowdsourcing by Nushio · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is the term you were looking for, I think.

    Crowdsourced police? Sounds similar to those "Neighbors on Watch" signs I see on the streets.

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  12. Left Arm? Meet Right Arm. by Maarx · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I imagine this is going to stop working so well when they turn off everyone's Blackberries next month.

  13. neighbors reporting on you by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    is how the ideal society works

    it means people are invested in and care about their societies to make sure nobody violates it

    you are thinking of east germany, where the state, not average citizens, maintained a network of neighborhood agents to exert control. this is top down control, not bottom up control

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stasi#Stasi_operations

    remember when rodney king's beating was videotaped in la in the early '90s? this is "little brother": citizens reporting on injustice, whether done by fellow citizens, or even by the state itself, to maintain their society. it's the ideal. no, it's not "mob rule". the state still exists, and mob justice is not tolerated

    perhaps you would prefer the sort of "stop snitching" mentality that goes on in neighborhoods rife with crime. a combination of people not caring about their own communities (and therefore not fighting crime that goes on around them, becoming collaborators in their own misery, out of distrust of the police, deserved or not), and criminals ruling by intimidation and fear to bully witnesses of crimes, results in a hellhole that in my mind, is even worse than east german stasi

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  14. And the actual page by slack_prad · · Score: 4, Informative

    The facebook page of the Delhi police where pictures are being posted and challans issued.
    All this hullabaloo is due to the Common Wealth Games that are fast approaching. Once that's done, this facebook fiasco will die a slow death.

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  15. Re:I did this after my last ticket... by chinakow · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Who gives a shit what others where doing? Where you speeding or not? If yes, you are guilty of speeding, if no, then why the hell do you care what other people are doing? A ticket doesn't say you where the only one breaking the law, it says you where caught. Grow a pair and pay the ticket. If you still have that chip on your shoulder, then by all means, call in the police who break the law. You are still entitled to being an ass. Just don't blame others for the you own actions.

    Also, Tu quoque. I linked it so you could get an edumacation. This is why the judge would laugh at your log book as a defense.

  16. Old Robin Williams' bit by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This makes me think of an old Robin Williams' bit. To paraphrase, the idea was that every driver on the road is issued a gun that will shoot a flag that says "Asshole." When you see someone do something stupid, you fire the gun at the car and they end up with a little flag that says "Asshole" on their car.

    One advantage of this is you'd be able to tell who the idiot drivers are and give them a wide berth. Kind of like a few years ago back in Florida when all the rental-car license plates started with 'Y'--if you saw a car with a 'Y' license plate, there was a good chance they didn't know where they were going and might change lanes at any moment.

    Also, it would make it easier for the police to eventually catch these people. Heck, just make a law that says if you have more than 5 "Asshole" flags on your car, you get a ticket for being an asshole.

    (Obviously this wouldn't really work--it's a comedy bit. But one can dream...)