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Xfire Purchased, Team Leaving

phorce phed and several other readers sent news that a system notification was sent out this evening through the Xfire IM client, to wit: "Xfire was bought by new owners today. Most of the team that has built Xfire over the last six years is leaving. We enjoyed working for you for the last 127 releases and wish we could stay to create the next 127. Good bye, good luck, and game on. — The Xfire Team." According to Wikipedia, the new owner is 3D Realms.

161 comments

  1. Don't rely on wiki too much.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    From what I've heard it's been edited multiple times since the announcement and both times was a different name of the buyer. Just wait until something official turns up.

    1. Re:Don't rely on wiki too much.. by crossmr · · Score: 5, Funny

      You do realize who posted this story right? If you went by his house and scrawled "Aliens ate Sarah Palin using the new X75 fork from IBM" on his sidewalk in chalk it'd be here the next day as gospel.

  2. Please Gaming Gods, No! by cosm · · Score: 3, Funny

    3D Realms decided that in order to get DNF completed, they needed 100% X-Fire integration, otherwise DNF would remain DNF, Forever.

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    1. Re:Please Gaming Gods, No! by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      Peace talks are rumoured in the Middle East, new developers for Duke Nukem Forever, a ruined global economy.

      Stock up on tinned food and ammunition and pack warm clothes for hell people. The seventh seal is opening!

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    2. Re:Please Gaming Gods, No! by ZeroExistenZ · · Score: 1

      Stock up on tinned food and ammunition and pack warm clothes for hell people

      Nukem 'till they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark!

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  3. no buyout. by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 5, Funny

    At 127 releases; they were on the verge of an 8 bit signed integer overflow. I suspect one of the managers panicked and convinced the CEO to sell before they had a chance to launch another and have to start over from scratch anyway.

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    1. Re:no buyout. by ben_kelley · · Score: 5, Funny

      It sure sounds plausible, but do you want to know the real truth?? The 8 bit integer overflow is still years away. And technologies like Integer-NAT will push it out even further.

    2. Re:no buyout. by gavron · · Score: 0, Redundant

      I wish I had mod points.

      +1 on parent

      Great subtle dry wit on IPv4/CIDR/NAT :)

      E

    3. Re:no buyout. by MBGMorden · · Score: 5, Funny

      Great subtle dry wit on IPv4/CIDR/NAT :)

      Yeah . . . I can just imagine you as a kid.

      "Hahaha. That joke's awesome! It's funny because the boy yelled 'Wolf!' but nobody believed him after lying about it so many times. Brilliant!" ;)

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    4. Re:no buyout. by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

      Now that 3D Realms owns the joint they don't have to worry about releasing anything preventing this possible catastrophe

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    5. Re:no buyout. by nanospook · · Score: 1

      Release 128.. "Oh my GOD! The stars are going out!"

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    6. Re:no buyout. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah . . . I can just imagine you as a kid.

      "Hahaha. That joke's awesome! It's funny because the boy yelled 'Wolf!' but nobody believed him after lying about it so many times. Brilliant!" ;)

      That's great -- a brilliant bit of satire on losers who feel they have to explain the humour behind the jokes they read! Awesome! ... Oh. ... Bastard.

    7. Re:no buyout. by natehoy · · Score: 1

      Meta-satire on satire?

      Oh, shit, now I've done it.

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    8. Re:no buyout. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Okay, I gotta know. Is that a reference to 'The Nine Billion Names of God'? Because I keep seeing that line, and that's the only place I know it from.

  4. 3D realms? Ummm... No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not according to Wikipedia -- according to some random edit made to wikipedia with no source and reverted minutes later. Given DNF jokes, I hardly think this bears mentioning.

    1. Re:3D realms? Ummm... No. by hedwards · · Score: 1

      It's technically possible, however, it's a long enough shot that we can pretty much dismiss it out of hand. In order for that to happen, Take-two would have to be giving up the lawsuit and somebody would have to be coming up with the money. Definitely possible, but highly, highly unlikely. I'm guessing that the edit was a joke.

  5. ...game on, or AM GONE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    g a m e o n
    am gone

    Thank you, come see me tonight at Billy's Bar & Grill.

  6. What a shitty summary by sopssa · · Score: 2, Informative

    3D Realms seems unlikely and the random edit was only in Wikipedia for a few minutes. And why does the summary link to the static "down" html page? The website is up and working. Nice twisting there.

    But really, the previous owner was Music Television. I always thought that was a little bit weird.

    1. Re:What a shitty summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      3D Realms seems unlikely and the random edit was only in Wikipedia for a few minutes. And why does the summary link to the static "down" html page? The website is up and working. Nice twisting there.

      But really, the previous owner was Music Television. I always thought that was a little bit weird.

      Exactly, the whole summary is just bullshit.

      Titan Platform is a good candidate and it goes along with their business.

    2. Re:What a shitty summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      From Kotaku

      Titan Gaming, a startup company, has purchased Xfire from MTV." ... "I'm just an (eX)fire Web Developer; the Marketing Department is gone too, so you'll have to wait for Titan to issue the press release, sorry."

    3. Re:What a shitty summary by tomhudson · · Score: 0

      Because that static page is what xfire is showing the public. Go to the forums instead: http://www.xfire.com/forums/182619/

    4. Re:What a shitty summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you even try the xfire site before making that statement?

    5. Re:What a shitty summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OMG, someone on the FORUM said that Xfire was bought by 3D Realms! It MUST be true!

      Seriously, the only thing that I see on that forum is saying that some unknown company, "Titan Games", bought them out. TechCrunch says the same.

    6. Re:What a shitty summary by Low+Ranked+Craig · · Score: 3, Informative
      Yep, and now it's on the xfire website:

      Titan Gaming acquires Xfire.

      August 2, 2010--Titan Gaming acquires Xfire.

      Titan will be taking on the Xfire name, with a focus towards ongoing innovation in the gaming space. The Xfire services will continue uninterrupted for its users. Xfire redefined how gamers communicate, Titan...

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    7. Re:What a shitty summary by nacturation · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And naturally kdawson will be updating this story to correct the misinformation, right? Hello? Is this thing on? [crickets]

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    8. Re:What a shitty summary by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      I can't believe people on /. are questioning the accuracy of a story posted by kdawson. First time for everything, I guess.

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    9. Re:What a shitty summary by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      Yes. As others also reported, all the links on the front page were dead.

    10. Re:What a shitty summary by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      It shows you where the original Viacom rumor came from - it's 4-year-old news.

    11. Re:What a shitty summary by Low+Ranked+Craig · · Score: 1

      negatory good buddy.

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  7. It's been bought by CSFFlame · · Score: 1

    By who I don't know, go look at xfire's main page.

    1. Re:It's been bought by Fumus · · Score: 1

      I would be happy if Valve bought them. Xfire is a rather bad piece of software nowadays when compared to what Steam has managed. No detection or anything, in Steam you just add the app from a list of installed software on your computer and it Just Works (TM). Xfire on the other hand simply refuses to support 64-bit systems and out of maybe fifty games I played five had the overlay functioning.

  8. Staff Leaving Can Only Mean One of Two Things by the+roAm · · Score: 1

    1: The buyout was so huge that they all decided to "go out on top" with a huge retirement package.
    2: The team was so unhappy with the terms of Viacom's selling of the company that they are all leaving in lock-step.

    I'm, unfortunately, leaning towards the second option as it seems more realistic. I always knew the Viacom buyout would end in tears, I just didn't know it would take this long.

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  9. What is up with this site lately? by WankersRevenge · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As of late, Slashdot seems to be phoning it in at best. I've been following the site for years and I've never seen such an apathetic disregard to both the site and the community from the editors. Lately, stories have either been incredibly sensational or just downright retarded. Or hell, even troll'ish. I'm wondering if Taco and company should just hang it up and try something new. Give people with some fire in their belly a shot. I don't know ... when you're citing wikipedia as a breaking news source, you gotta be wondering if what you're scraping is the bottom of the barrel, or the pile of shit underneath it.

    And by the way ... it's all right to change the Microsoft icon. It was funny twelve years ago. It's kind of retarded now. Especially since the company now looks to be run by the three stooges after a weekend bender.

    1. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Threni · · Score: 1

      I agree about the Microsoft icon. Use it for Apple. I can't imagine what you'd use for Microsoft though.

    2. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I agree about the Microsoft icon. Use it for Apple. I can't imagine what you'd use for Microsoft though.

      A picture of a giant bald ape?

    3. Re:What is up with this site lately? by maccodemonkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "I can't imagine what you'd use for Microsoft though."

      I thought the three stooges sounded pretty good as an icon for Microsoft.

    4. Re:What is up with this site lately? by JustOK · · Score: 1

      i heard they're going to turn slashdot into a giant invisible hot buffet table and then sell it.

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    5. Re:What is up with this site lately? by PinkyGigglebrain · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Agreement on the opinion of /., recently it seems to have lost it's Mojo.

      I like the MS icon. It recalls the days when MS really was something to worry about and is way better than one of Balmer photoshoped to look like Bozo the Clown, which would be my choice.

      To describe MS's current managment as "the three stooges after a weekend bender." is overrating MS's managment and insulting the three stooges. The Stoogies were way more innovative.

    6. Re:What is up with this site lately? by __aatgod8309 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The parent post has a good suggestion; the three stooges after a weekend bender.

    7. Re:What is up with this site lately? by wowbagger · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Considering that Slashdot didn't even bother to report on this New York Times story about Slashdot (even though it appeared in the Firehose twice (at least), but they DID report on The Science of Caddyshack (in Idle), are you surprised?

      (oh, BTW mods - I really don't give a shit about karma anymore - that's how big a "joke" Slashdot has become. Prove me right about this place swirling the drain....)

    8. Re:What is up with this site lately? by blahbooboo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Where should we long time Slashdotters go then?

    9. Re:What is up with this site lately? by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Some interesting excerpts from the article:
      "However this relatively narrow focus means that Slashdot has not grown to have broader appeal, like StumbleUpon and Digg. "
      "In addition, Slashdot has historically favored stories submitted from traditional media, over 'new media' such as blogs. Both of these things have made Slashdot seem behind the times and a bit too closed minded."
      "Likewise, library student @battmutler commented that Slashdot "seems to always be 12-36 hours behind the curve.""
      "However the impact that this community has on the social Web is minimal, according to Woopra's statistics. "

      Seriously? The issue is that Slashdot is 12 hours behind "the curve"? It's impact is minimal on the social web? It's not Digg? That's just fucking retarded.

      Let me summarize why I read Slashdot and not Digg or random blogs: I don't care if I'm behind 12 hours. I don't care about reading stories found at digg and StumbleUpon. I don't care to have an impact on the social web.

      I read Slashdot for two reasons: it gives me a broad overview of what's going in topics I find interesting, and the commentary is just about as good as ever - or as bad, depending on your take.

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    10. Re:What is up with this site lately? by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The nytimes story is beyond stupid. slashdot is not digg, and if it became like digg, And hackernews? Come off it.

      Why would anyone want slashdot to became like that piece of sh*t known as facebook (if there's one site that has a worse UI than slashdot it HAS to be facebook). Tis is a tech web site, not myspace.

    11. Re:What is up with this site lately? by wowbagger · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Oh, I don't disagree with your analysis of the content of the NYT article - indeed, see my Journal Entry on the subject for more.

      But the fact that Slashdot did not even see fit to post the story, and allow discussion of the issues raised - that they weren't even willing to take the risk that people like you would find fault with the story - THAT is what is the real "tell" on what is going on.

    12. Re:What is up with this site lately? by zullnero · · Score: 1

      Oh, come on. You completely missed the fact that most of the tech news was probably posted at Engadget a day or two before.

    13. Re:What is up with this site lately? by raddan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think you bring up some an important point: /. is not about breaking news. It may have been back in the earlier days (when tech reporting was still largely on paper), but I don't think that ever was the focus. The thing that still draws me here, after ten years of reading, is the community.

      The NYT article contends that /. has lost traffic without providing a single shred of evidence to support this. Ten years ago, social media was largely unheard of, except for the few geeks who came from places like USENET or BBS scene. I think /.'s base is still largely those people. So the site doesn't draw the crowds. BFD. That's why I come here. I like that narrow focus. The instant ./ tries to follow in Digg's footsteps, I'm outta here. Anyway not growing and losing are two completely different things, NYT!

      We've probably lost a few great commentators over the years, but it's likely not because ./ isn't trendy enough for them. It's because the stories aren't nerdy enough anymore. Hey editors: we want more science stories. Challenge us. I'd personally like to see ./ pick up more cutting-edge research (like computer science and computer engineering journal articles), because that's when the broad base of knowledge in the readership really shows, and where ./'s value is head and shoulders above the other "social media" sites out there.

    14. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

      I came up with a good idea for a successor to Slashdot. It'd be kind of like of Slashdot, but there would be some differences:

      1. A GOOD "moderating moderators" system would be in place. If a set amount of logged-in/registered users think that the moderation for a comment was wrong, a "point" would go on the moderators account. If a user has a set amount of points, they would not be able to moderate for a set amount of time (eg: 6 months? A year?) and they would see a message telling them why.

      2. Better content and better editing. Slashdot "articles" are full of misspellings and the "articles" themselves are lackluster, sometimes even trollish. There'd also be editorial content and more in-depth reviews of different software/media.

    15. Re:What is up with this site lately? by westlake · · Score: 2, Interesting

      it's all right to change the Microsoft icon. It was funny twelve years ago. It's kind of retarded now. Especially since the company now looks to be run by the three stooges after a weekend bender.

      The geek is easily distracted by glitz:

      In the most recent three months, Microsoft earned $4.52 billion in profits, versus Apple's $3.25 billion and Google's $1.8 billion. Lost from view is Microsoft's very best story -- its transformation into a powerhouse supplier of the specialized software that meets the complex needs of large corporations. Microsoft's enterprise software business alone is approaching the size of Oracle. Even With All Its Profits, Microsoft Has a Popularity Problem

    16. Re:What is up with this site lately? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The issue is that Slashdot is 12 hours behind "the curve"?

      Can I let you all in on a little secret?

      "The Curve" does not exist. It's a concept created by press agents and PR flacks to try to force media outlets to jump on their bogus stories before taking the time to make sure they're not complete bullshit. It's a far sight more important to get it right than to get it fast, but our corporate media has gotten it backwards. The worst part is that they try to cover up their incompetence with assertions like "I had to go with it, it was breaking news" or "we didn't want to be scooped by our competitor".

      Have any of you not read a superior in-depth, accurate article on a topic because some tabloid had gotten to it first with a lot of crap? Do any of you read Slashdot because you expect to be among the first to read about a "breaking story"?

      Now there's even a further reason why people are pushing "breaking stories": because then they can get out in front and try to shape the way the story is told. They can get away with that because most people are pretty dumb. So if someone comes out with a breaking story, let's say that "So and so, who is black, admits to being a racist and is cheered by the audience, which was also black" it's not going to matter that the whole thing was completely fabricated, because it confirmed a bunch of stupid people's small-mindedness (and small-minded people just love to have their small-mindedness confirmed and affirmed). But if you're someone who maybe tries to be aware of what's going on in the world, and you see this story picked up by the number one cable news network (this is all purely hypothetical) and then repeated on the numbers two and three networks because they don't want to be scooped, and you buy into the story, you're going to look like a complete horse's ass when you find out that it was all bullshit to begin with. You're going to feel used, and sullied and well, kind of stupid for being in such a goddamn hurry that you'd pay any attention to the number one cable news network to begin with (hypothetically).

      So you know what? Fuck "the curve". You don't have to be ahead of it any more than you have to be "outside the box" or "in the know" or "in touch" because none of those things matter as long as you're capable of a little discernment.

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    17. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is wrong with Facebook UI? It's actually really clear and easy.

    18. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We can’t bust heads like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to tell them stories that don’t go anywhere. Like that time I took the ferry over to Shelbyville; I needed a new heel for my shoe. So, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them. ‘Give me five bees for a quarter,’ you’d say. Now where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn’t have any white onions, because of the war; the only thing you can get was those big yellow ones

    19. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Idiomatick · · Score: 1

      #1 is pretty much in place. But yeah we really could use better editors. Perhaps the ability to moderate topics? That way say, kdawson could be moderated off the editing team if /. so desired. Also, editors that follow the story a bit would be nice. So many times new data comes out and the summary never gets edited. (A few days ago there was an article saying that solar was cheaper than nuclear, obviously false and it was corrected in comments but not.)

    20. Re:What is up with this site lately? by EllF · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Where should we long time Slashdotters go then?

      Pay Rusty a visit at www.kuro5hin.org. Then you'll really pine for the old days.

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    21. Re:What is up with this site lately? by pspahn · · Score: 1
      Think of name yet? How about doshslat.com? dashslot.com is already taken, but not the other.

      Fine print: By looking at this response you are in agreement that 50% of all revenues from doshslat.com will paid to me, in monthly sums of cash to be delivered at a location yet to be determined.

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    22. Re:What is up with this site lately? by snero3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Considering that Slashdot didn't even bother to report on this New York Times story about Slashdot [nytimes.com] (even though it appeared in the Firehose [slashdot.org] twice [slashdot.org] (at least),

      I can see why they didn't bother to report that NT times story, it is utter sh!t. I am sorry but really there is nothing news worthy in the whole piece. Maybe their point has some weight to it but the way there reported it definitely didn't. They could have (and probably did) just of made it up.

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    23. Re:What is up with this site lately? by snero3 · · Score: 1

      Could not agree more!

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    24. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Nukenin · · Score: 1

      Since the New York Times is just the aggregator here, would it not be more more pertinent to begin with "Considering that Slashdot didn't even bother to report on this ReadWriteWeb blog post about Slashdot..."?

      After all, you want to link to the original story for maximal relevance, right? If Slashdot accepted summary contributions that linked to third party aggregate sites reposting other site' original articles, or accepted summary contributions with no citations whatsoever beyond virtual hearsay, imagine the degradation of relevance!

    25. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd suggest a flightless bird - to represent a company that once flew high but after years of evolution and competiton from better-adapted species has lost the use of its wings.

      As Linux already has Tux, a penguin would only be confusing so my suggestion would be a dodo.

    26. Re:What is up with this site lately? by unity · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "The thing that still draws me here, after ten years of reading, is the community. "
      ^That.
      and most especially this:
      "We've probably lost a few great commentators over the years, but it's likely not because ./ isn't trendy enough for them. It's because the stories aren't nerdy enough anymore. Hey editors: we want more science stories. Challenge us. I'd personally like to see ./ pick up more cutting-edge research (like computer science and computer engineering journal articles), because that's when the broad base of knowledge in the readership really shows, and where ./'s value is head and shoulders above the other "social media" sites out there"

      I've been coming here forever, nowhere near as much as I used to mainly because the majority of the stories don't interest me.

    27. Re:What is up with this site lately? by crossmr · · Score: 1

      Seriously? The issue is that Slashdot is 12 hours behind "the curve"? It's impact is minimal on the social web? It's not Digg? That's just fucking retarded.

      12 hours is very generous. About 1/2 of the stories I see on slashdot were on digg, not 12 hours ago, but 2-3 days ago.
      A few hours behind is fine. But when we're talking days, when the rest of the internet has moved on, it gets a bit much.

      Especially when slashdot is reporting some inaccurate information that was already cleared up days ago. That is when it gets really embarrassing.

    28. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From what I've seen, the current system isn't working all that great. Troll mods for comments that are quite simply not a troll. The current meta moderation system just seems lackluster. My editors idea was kind of a mix of K5 and Slashdot. There would be administrators that are permanent editors, but standard users with high enough karma would be eligible for being an editor (but with less power than the administrators, much like moderator vs administrator in other forums) after the administrators see if that person would do well as an editor and of course there would be article moderation.

    29. Re:What is up with this site lately? by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 1

      A picture of a giant bald ape?

      You mean Kwyjibo?

    30. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Cylix · · Score: 1

      I like where they stated, ", Slashdot "drives close to 0% of traffic to the sites Woopra measures.""

      Who the fuck is woopra?

      There are two standing issues I have with this statement which make it a non-issue.

      I come to slashdot for the technical discussion on the matter and there is a good deal of user generated content. This is exactly why meme's have developed regarding TFA. It is considered roughly the norm to read the user content above the link posted because slashdot users cannot be bothered with such mundane details. Yet we can still slashdot an unprepared website.

      Another common issue revolves around the class of user. Taco once had a bitchfest that stated we were a hard group to monitor. There are a large number of individuals who don't have crapware installed and take steps to not publically disclose every facet of their web viewing history.

      So we don't read the articles and we are a hard group to judge.

      Still... again... who the fuck is woopra.

      By no means is this a defense of kdawson or soulskill.

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    31. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Arykor · · Score: 2, Funny
      NYT says:

      Slashdot Struggles to Remain Relevant in The Social Web

      Hah! Pretty funny coming from a NEWSPAPER...

    32. Re:What is up with this site lately? by cmholm · · Score: 2, Informative

      Re: not growing v. losing... exactly. If someone wants to see a losing site, surf to kuro5hin.org. Once in a blue moon I'll surf there to see what's up, and find that the leading posts haven't changed in weeks. I could probably host the site on my DSL connection.

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    33. Re:What is up with this site lately? by StuartHankins · · Score: 1

      I approve using a 3 Stooges pic in place of the Microsoft Borg pic. Do we have a third?

    34. Re:What is up with this site lately? by westlake · · Score: 1

      I thought the three stooges sounded pretty good as an icon for Microsoft.

      It's not.

      The Stooges were in their prime in 1940. The Borg made their first appearance in Star Trek:TNG in 1989. Cowboy Bebop aired in 1998.

      Slashdot could stand to look a little less adolescent and a little more trend-forward.
         

    35. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Hadlock · · Score: 1

      It would appear they at least recently hired kdawson, who is of the same "quantity over quality" mentality of cory doctorow. That's one problem with the site. All the stories at the beginning of the week are terrible, and lo and behold, they're released to the front page by kdawson. There's a huge discrepency in story quality, headline and commentary depending on who posts them.

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    36. Re:What is up with this site lately? by maccodemonkey · · Score: 1

      "The Stooges were in their prime in 1940. The Borg made their first appearance in Star Trek:TNG in 1989. Cowboy Bebop aired in 1998.

      Slashdot could stand to look a little less adolescent and a little more trend-forward."

      At the rate Hollywood is going, they'll probably do a Three Stooges reboot within the next five years. Then'll it'll be brand new again.

    37. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Pteraspidomorphi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sorry if I'm wrong about this, but aren't slashdot stories submitted by users and voted up or down by users in the firehose? Editors just OK the highest rated ones... They don't do much else, from my observation.

      You're right about wikipedia, of course.

    38. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Hadlock · · Score: 1

      That way say, kdawson could be moderated off the editing team if /. so desired.

      I think that is desired! How can I sign up for your newsletter? kdawson's "editing" seems to be skewed towards making wildly inaccurate claims on the front page, so as to spread misinformation and cause a flurry of posts explaining why he is wrong. It attracts the wrong crowd (let's keep digg, reddit and 4chan where they are, thanks) and dumbs down Slashdot in general.

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    39. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Back, foul 4-digiter! The planets are not aligned yet!

    40. Re:What is up with this site lately? by HereIAmJH · · Score: 1

      Considering that Slashdot didn't even bother to report on this New York Times story about Slashdot

      Interesting article. Slashdot isn't a big social media site. Social media is generally the term that journalists use for sites like Facebook and MySpace. They compare Slashdot traffic to; Stumble Upon, Digg, Reddit (never been to any of those on purpose) and Hacker News (never heard of it). And then we are asked to respond to the article via Twitter. (never used it)

      There is good and bad about Slashdot, there always has been. But lets be clear, I come here to read and discuss topics. I'm not looking to be your 'friend'.

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    41. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about a Windows logo? Or perhaps the Microsoft logo? All of this other stuff is just childish.

    42. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So Microsoft made about 30% more than Apple?

      How much bigger is Microsoft than Apple again? About 30% bigger, right? ....right?

      Microsoft's earnings are driven by its monopoly on the desktop and office software. As it continues to stumble with those, it will continue to fall and lose other markets. At least without some major changes. Microsoft seems determined to break itself up through incompetence where the government refused to through antitrust law.

    43. Re:What is up with this site lately? by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Oh, I don't disagree with your analysis of the content of the NYT article - indeed, see my Journal Entry on the subject for more.

      But the fact that Slashdot did not even see fit to post the story, and allow discussion of the issues raised - that they weren't even willing to take the risk that people like you would find fault with the story - THAT is what is the real "tell" on what is going on.

      Or maybe it's more along the lines of "...and nothing of value was lost." If you agree with the analysis that the article is bogus (and clearly, with a statement like "Oh, feel the BURN!", you feel otherwise) then I fail to see any significance in posting the story. People can, and will continue, to grouse about Slashdot without a topic dedicated to it. Although it would be interesting if said grousing was actually on-topic for once; I don't know what the complainers would do with themselves.

    44. Re:What is up with this site lately? by trytoguess · · Score: 1

      I can certainly see why someone would not want to post an article stating my site is losing relevance. At worst, people agree with that, and it hurts me. At best, people consider the whole thing a troll and start drama, and yes I know /. loves drama. Either way, the end result isn't good.

    45. Re:What is up with this site lately? by NotBorg · · Score: 1

      But when we're talking days, when the rest of the internet has moved on, it gets a bit much.

      Let them move on. I still see plenty of insightful commentary about the subject matter that isn't found other places. People come here for the user generated content that happens despite poor summaries.

      I'm with PopeRatzo above. Fuck the out of control bandwagon.

      Much of the good content isn't really that time sensitive. A good article about a research project is still relevant and interesting for some time publish date. Its quality you can't get from instant news which is often 10 times more sensational than reality. The reason "the rest of the internet has moved on" so quickly is because it wasn't worth pause to begin with. So yeah the more time sensitive articles on /. are the crappier articles. But even the crappier articles can yield interesting, insightful, and informative comments which is what /. is about.

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    46. Re:What is up with this site lately? by steelfood · · Score: 1

      No kidding. I laughed when I read that.

      And the "data" is a joke, considering how many users block the very same tools used to gather the data. But I'm not interested in how many people come to the site. I'm more interested in what they have to say. And out of all the sites out there, I think Slashdot's users still have the most interesting (informative, and insightful) things to say. Sure, there are other niche sites where the users know more about a particular topic. But here, there's guaranteed to be at least one expert in every topic, sometimes even several with differing opinions.

      I think the reporter has it backwards. NYT is struggling to find relevancy. Slashdot, on the other hand, is as relevant as it was 10 years ago, this in spite of the sudden explosion of users to the internet.

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    47. Re:What is up with this site lately? by martin-boundary · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, k5 used to be great back in 2001. RIP.

    48. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Aceticon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Funilly enough this ties back to the crisis of news reporting:
      - There is no more in-depth news reporting in daily news media: the ones that on their own words are at or ahead of the "curve" just parrot events, hear-saying and gossip.

      In fact, thinking about it, the main reason I come to Slashdot is for the further in-depth analysis which are the comments.

      For example, just look at some of the articles about the Internet filter in Australia:
      - You'll see comments from ozzies explaining how the current Australian government has to pander to politicians from a specific conservative state to keep support for other laws.
      - You'll see comments explaining how the state is set-up in Australia (i.e. the dual-chamber system)
      - You'll see technology comments on the technical viability of such sytems.
      - You'll be pointed out other similar systems in other countries and past news about those systems.

      When was the last time that any mainstream daily news media actually had an article about some political decision in some country of other and actually explained the political background in that country and/or pointed out similar decisions in other countries and subsequent results?

      In fact, when was the last time that any mainstream daily news media had an article about basic human rights, liberty and/or privacy?

      An this is not just limited to ideological subjects:
      - Go to articles about medicine and you're likelly to find comments from doctors.
      - Go to articles about a scientific area and you're likelly to find comments from researchers in that area.
      - Go to (the early) articles about the oil-spill in the Gulf and you'll find comments from people that work in propection in the oil industry.

      For all the dross, baseless opinionating and ad hominem attacks, almost any Slashdot article together with it's comments has more in-depth reporting than almost any "news story" in daily mainstream news media today.

      PS: I say "daily" news media because I believe some of the weekly and monthly magazines - you know, the ones behind the curve - do have more in-depth news reporting.

    49. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      They're trying to claim slashdot is losing traffic based on how many times people follow a link from slashdot to another site. The fact is many slashdot readers already saw the link from another source before it was posted on slashdot, but they still read slashdot to take part in the comments section because 9 times out of 10 the discussion is going to be more engaging on slashdot than on some random blog or than reddit or digg. And also due to the moderation system, the quality of the individual featured articles is generally going to be higher than on reddit or digg. My brother reads reddit all the time. Even with filters set up he scrolls through the equivalent of cat pictures for 90% of the news posts. Even including the idle section slashdot's front page is maybe 5-15% "cat pictures" on any given day.

    50. Re:What is up with this site lately? by kiddygrinder · · Score: 2, Funny

      current front page of digg:

      3 Best Performances by Paul Rudd
      Google brings translation tool in Google Docs Suite! | Crazy
      Tin Man, How Can I Ever Thank You (GIF)
      Prey Fish Turns Predator (this one isn't too bad actually, i was shocked it wasn't an animated gif)
      20 Classic Opening Lines In Books

      etc etc etc, they can keep this shit tbh

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    51. Re:What is up with this site lately? by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 1

      Where should we long time Slashdotters go then?

      Pay Rusty a visit at www.kuro5hin.org. Then you'll really pine for the old days.

      I'm not sure I see what you mean ...

      "Pissing in the shower (3.00 / 3) (#23)
      by rusty on Fri May 28, 2010 at 03:41:16 PM EST

      ...is environmentally responsible. You use gallons less water than if you showered and pissed separately.

      Showering in piss alone would be even better. "

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    52. Re:What is up with this site lately? by crossmr · · Score: 1

      The problem isn't simply that they've moved on. it is that Slashdot has turned around and summarized the story with something that was debunked 2 days before it made it to Slashdot because they're so far behind the curve. Slashdot will actually post some of that sensational news a day or two after another site and act like its new and that the rest of the internet hasn't already clued in that it is junk.

    53. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's nothing wrong with it, it's just cool to hate popular things.

    54. Re:What is up with this site lately? by ZeroExistenZ · · Score: 1

      I have the simular sensation, and not just this site but alot of fluffy content: The internet was a geek-out place for the last decade.

      Now it's just like "interaction television" and advertizing is taking over wheras it used to be a common technological playground.

      I wonder who still is getting experimental instead of "studying frameworks", and trying to figure things out?

      News online is diluted and reintrepreted from only a few main sources (everything is echo'd around, reaggregated, reposted, retweeted, ...)

      I really lack authentic content and people doing new significant things instead of facebooking and being scuked into online pseudo social life or rehash over rehash over rehash over rehash.


      Really, it seems this decade people are only watching screens and pushing buttons.


      For me it was superawesomely cool to push some buttons, and have a physical result (driving hardware) now all feels very virtual; it has quasi no meaning when you turn off your PC and you're not "interacting".

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    55. Re:What is up with this site lately? by el_nino · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, that information is only available to users with the Member of the {1,2,3,4,5} Digit UID Club achievement.

    56. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "just of"? Those two words never go together.

    57. Re:What is up with this site lately? by V!NCENT · · Score: 1, Insightful

      A chair with motion blur :)

      And for Apple you use Steve heil!

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    58. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have the simular sensation, and not just this site but alot of fluffy content

      "simular"? "alot"? You're one of the people that have helped kill Slashdot.

      I wonder who still is getting experimental instead of "studying frameworks", and trying to figure things out?

      Apparently you aren't.

      I really lack authentic content

      Truer words have never been written.

      For me it was superawesomely cool to push some buttons, and have a physical result (driving hardware)

      I rest my case.

    59. Re:What is up with this site lately? by ctusch · · Score: 1

      FTFA: "Why is Slashdot almost irrelevant to the social media community? It used to be the biggest driver of traffic to tech web sites, but now it hardly delivers any traffic at all to them."

      That's because:

      a) half of the readers hardly even read the headline before commenting, much less click on the link
      b) the other half doesn't want to click through a 10 pages article cluttered with annoying ads

    60. Re:What is up with this site lately? by moonbender · · Score: 1

      Apparently a web analysis tool like Google Analytics... but in REAL TIME!!!

      Used by 100k sites, whatever that's worth.

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    61. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have any of you not read a superior in-depth, accurate article on a topic because some tabloid had gotten to it first with a lot of crap? Do any of you read Slashdot because you expect to be among the first to read about a "breaking story"?

      I'm sorry, are you saying that you read Slashdot for the articles and in depth reporting? I sure as hell don't. Slashdot is just an aggregator aimed at geeks and wannabe-geeks. You speak of accurate, but the source for this article is wikipedia for crying out loud. Slashdot has basically become Digg for geeks. Look at idle for a minute. No really, go have a look at it. The current article at the top there is "Wendy's Robber Calls Back to Complain". Don't worry though, there's always "Fur Flies Over Squirrel Meat Sales" to redeem Idle. What does this even have to do with "news for nerds" anymore? But it's not just slashdot. Look at Ars Technica. Ars used to have great in depth articles like this one about cpu caching, but nowadays that kind of writing is boring, uninteresting ... Oh look, another story about the iPhone 4 and its antenna.

      These days I open slashdot and ars, and I get a few iPhone/iPad articles shoved down my throat, some more google glorification, and every now and then Microsoft does something worth mentioning so we all get to stand in line booing at Redmond for a couple of minutes. We get rehashes of rehashes of carefully orchestrated press-releases by companies at slashdot. Yes, we all know what a great fantastical magic thing the iPad is, can we look past the AppStore and tear the goddamn thing open? No, not the rehash of the review of the writeup on the ARM inside. Get your toolkit and do something geeky. It's not about having good articles for a technical or geeky crowd anymore, it's purely for pageviews, advertising revenue and in slashdots case articles that 'll make geeks going through the same old tiring "emacs vs vi", "company du jour is evil", "your programming language sucks more than mine" debates. Slashdot "editors" like kdawnson and samzenpus are a fucking joke, but it's not just them. If 5% of what is on this site qualifies as "a decent summary", it would be a miracle. So when new articles get submitted, editors don't even bother to spellcheck, or check that the links go to a somewhat reputable source, or for that matter that there are any links at all. Do slashdot editors randomly pick things out of the firehose not marked as spam? "Oh my, Bill Gates has tea and biscuits with Jesus Christ aboard a UFO. What a scoop!"

      Investigative reporting in traditional media and in depth technical writing has made way for "breaking news"-style reporting, carefully orchestrated press releases, hyping, pageview whoring and such hilarious faits divers like youtube videos of cats putting their paws on iPads and sedated kids in the car on their way home from the dentist. Why? Because there's money in appealing to the masses. Fuck content, let's write another iGadget story.

      Is there nothing better to write about on a website that caters to a geek crowd?

    62. Re:What is up with this site lately? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, are you saying that you read Slashdot for the articles and in depth reporting? I sure as hell don't.

      No, most people read Slashdot for the comments.

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    63. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My vote goes to Steve Balmer holding a chair in a threatening manner.

    64. Re:What is up with this site lately? by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Wasn't that the one that went invite-only, or closed new membership completely, or something like that?

    65. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Cloud+K · · Score: 1

      Well, Bill Gates has pretty much nothing to do with Microsoft any more so yeah it's outdated. I think an ape or a flying chair would probably suffice. "What do you want to throw today?"

      As for /. we are still here so it can't be that bad. It does compare to the tabloids (UK) with regard to its sensationalism, bias and quality of "journalism". But just like the tabloids, if you don't take it seriously and instead treat it as entertainment, it's much easier to appreciate.

    66. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You make an excellent point.

    67. Re:What is up with this site lately? by tomhudson · · Score: 1
      You mean aside from the 420-character limit for posts, the lack of threading in comments, the way that everything is so poorly organized that it's impossible to keep a sustained conversation going, that the layout was done by someone from 1979, where displays are a fixed format and layouts rigid, so on wide screens you end up with a lot of useless white space, and that it is possibly the first site to demonstrate what photo-chemists and astronomers taking long-term exposures call "reciprocity failure", or that the "network effect" has an optimal peak, and beyond that it actually devalues the network?

      Oh, and of course, the privacy issues. Mustn't forget that.

    68. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Fulkkari · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, but the NYT story was just stupid. I think I'm like many others in here: I come here for the news and the discussion. I don't care about the "social media". I don't want to have any "Facebook and Twitter integration". I don't care about what some guy wrote on his blogpost. And I don't care if some article is a day or half a day late - hardly ever are news really that important. And if I did not follow the link, then I probably just did not think the topic was worth my time.

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    69. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Raenex · · Score: 1

      Look at idle for a minute. No really, go have a look at it.

      No, really, I'm not going to look at it. I have it turned off in my preferences for a reason. Are you seriously complaining about the content in Idle? Here's a fucking clue: "change the channel".

    70. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The correct usage is only "just," of course.

    71. Re:What is up with this site lately? by john83 · · Score: 1

      I'm a much more recent arrival at slashdot than that. An engineering PhD, I also come here for the technical focus and for the commentary. The community really shows its knowledge base in topics in computer science, astronomy and maybe particle physics, and its passions in copyright and other areas of IP, privacy and human rights. When the stories drift away from those areas, the comments can be fairly inane.

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    72. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 1

      That's sort of the problem. Editors are supposed to, you know, edit the things they post.

    73. Re:What is up with this site lately? by AdamWeeden · · Score: 1
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    74. Re:What is up with this site lately? by maccodemonkey · · Score: 1

      Screw Software Engineering. I'm going to Hollywood to become a movie exec.

    75. Re:What is up with this site lately? by blahbooboo · · Score: 1

      At one point a couple years ago i tried to like that site and just couldn't get into it.

    76. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not a NYT piece, it's just a story from readwriteweb that was aggregated onto NYT's tech section. You'll notice that the link to 'their Twitter' goes to twitter.com/rww

    77. Re:What is up with this site lately? by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

      Nope, k5 was open to anyone. In the early century, it had a nicely varied selection of topics with a pretty advanced CMS (called Scoop), but a combination of things killed it. When the war drums started, the major (and practically only) topic became Iraq. There was a troll infestation, and an ill fated attempt to extract revenue from the community for yachts and monocles. By 2004-5, most of the early members had left.

    78. Re:What is up with this site lately? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      #1 is pretty much in place.

      You seem to have missed the bit where he said GOOD.

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  10. Looking around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    xfire itself

    Team Leaving

    August 2, 2010--Xfire has been purchased by another company. Most of the team that has brought you Xfire for the last 6 years is leaving, including me. We've enjoyed our time and I personally am sad that I was only able to do 127 releases. Good bye and game on!

    --- Chris

    Kotaku

    Kotaku has tried to reach Xfire for additional comment through a press inquiry email address. Any that comes will be updated here.

    So in other words, 3D Realms seems more of a rumor than anything. Hey, let's just say EA bought it. Or Curse?

    1. Re:Looking around by Grimbleton · · Score: 1

      If it was EA, I'm uninstalling.

      I like a lot of their games, but I do not like them.

    2. Re:Looking around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Update from Kotaku for people who care.

      Update: At 7:30 p.m. Kotaku received the following statement from Titan Gaming CEO John Maffei.

              Titan Gaming has purchased Xfire. The terms of the purchase are undisclosed. Titan will be taking on the Xfire name, with a focus towards ongoing innovation in the gaming space. The Xfire services will continue uninterrupted for its users. Xfire redefined how gamers communicate, Titan intends to build upon this tradition and utilize the Xfire platform to help gaming companies better engage and monetize their games.

      Titan Gaming, based in Santa Monica, Calif., is the developer of a platform that helps games makers create skill-based competitions. It was incorporated in 2006.

      Yeah I don't know who the hell Titan is.

  11. New Owners by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    3D realms like Duke Nukem 3D realms? Those guys haven't done anything that I know of for a LONG time.

    Is this goodbye Xfire?

  12. Re:Why bother with seperate widgets? by Grimbleton · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You aren't really familiar with what Xfire is, are you?

  13. Re:Why bother with seperate widgets? by Kamokazi · · Score: 1

    Not sure where you are getting off accusing games to be bundled with 'crap widgets' ('widgets', seriously?) Xfire was completely 3rd party. I can't think of any games off the top of my head that came bundled with it, though I am sure there were a few. I used it once for like a week and got rid of it, I never used it, though I thought it was a pretty decent application.

    I really can't think of any random crap 'widgets' other than Gamespy.../shudder. I'm, sure there are a few other random things I'm forgetting, but it's far from the deluge of crap that you are describing.

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  14. Re:Why bother with seperate widgets? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    You aren't really familiar with what Xfire is, are you?

    Actually I'd never heard of it, and so had no idea at all, but thanks to the excellent summary I now have only almost no idea at all.

  15. Hm... I bet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This was probably the work of Blizzard! They're entering Phase II of the "Real ID/Piss everybody off" market with this purchase.

    Well.. it can't be worse than 3D realms right... right? ...Guys?

  16. Slashdot Not Purchased, Team Leaving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anonymous Coward and several other readers sent news that a new article was posted this evening through the Slashdot website, to wit: "Slashdot was not bought by new owners today. Most of the team that has built Slashdot over the last twelve years is leaving. We enjoyed working for you for the last 127,000 stories and wish we could stay to create the next 127,000, but we simply don't care anymore. Good bye, good luck, and comment on. -- The Slashdot Team."

  17. Well played, sir. by rakslice · · Score: 2, Funny

    Step 1: Edit Wikipedia article to make outrageous claim.
    Step 2: Submit story about the news to /.
    Step 3: ???
    Step 4: Profit.

    Discuss.

    1. Re:Well played, sir. by crossmr · · Score: 1

      step 3 is wave a piece of cheese in front of kdawson's face.

    2. Re:Well played, sir. by larry+bagina · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      dick cheese, maybe.

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    3. Re:Well played, sir. by Warll · · Score: 1

      If you're going to be vulgar at least be witty, please.

    4. Re:Well played, sir. by tomakaan · · Score: 1

      An Xfire system wide message did go out making the same announcement that was edited to Wikipedia. The cited source may have been poor but it is not an outrageous claim.

    5. Re:Well played, sir. by rakslice · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I didn't really clarify: the outrageous claim I'm talking about is that the "the new owner is 3D Realms." 3D Realms is a company that recently cancelled the main project it had under development, laid off most of its staff, and is facing a breach of contract lawsuit from the publisher. I would have a hard time believing an announcement that 3D Realms acquired any company even if it was confirmed in 10 different major newspapers.

  18. People still use this shite? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I must be out of touch... but I can't believe people still use Slashdot anymore either so I guess there's something going on there.

  19. Sneaking, sinking feeling... by Anachragnome · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Sneaking, sinking feeling...and I can't shake it.

    Blizzard goes Facebook, China goes Facebook(-ish and pulls the same thing Blizzard did--Real Names>Anonymity...WTF is UP with that?), ICQ purchased by shady, Russian outfit(Digital Sky Technologies), now this...another 16 million users data changing hands.

    Why do I get the feeling that this is all somehow connected?

    EACH of these transactions (don't even get started on the China thing) involve tens of millions of users. Some, hundreds of millions.

    The thing that bothers me is the numbers. They appear to be growing larger and larger with each transaction(sales--partnerships peaked with the Blizzard/Facebook deal).

    Are these guys actually trading in data, then selling it again to other customers? Wouldn't that have the effect of "stacking" databases, a sort of cross-pollination that artificially inflates the total "pool" of data available for sale? If this data is being SOLD, this artificial "inflation", the repeated selling of a single product--data--could be analogous to flooding a market with counterfeit cash.

    In short, this market might be a pyramid scheme of Grand Proportions.

    Or maybe I spent too much time in the sun today...

  20. Wait What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    x what?

  21. Repeat After Me "Wikipedia is not a source" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NEVER, EVER, EVER cite Wikipedia as a source. If there is a link on then to a real source, then cite that.

  22. I remember Xfire by Kevin108 · · Score: 1

    It's what we used before Steam matured and added all of its modern features. Why would someone buy a free chat client?

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    1. Re:I remember Xfire by DudemanX · · Score: 1

      This is what I was thinking. Xfire was really neat when I tried it like 5 years ago but I could never get enough other friends to use it for it to hit critical mass. Steam on the other hand IS my social network. My friends aren't on Facebook, AIM, or Xfire but they're ALL on Steam. Everyone I know uses it to buy games. We use it to buy games for our friends that are broke. Even games that don't use Steam like Starcraft2 we run through Steam. It lets everyone else know that you're playing and gives in-game access to the Steam overlay(SC2 doesn't minimize/restore very gracefully). The only feature I miss from Xfire is the ability to directly send files to people but it's something that hardly ever comes up anymore.

      Steam made Xfire totally irrelevant and these guys are really smart to still have been able to sell it for a nice sum and get the hell out while they can.

  23. wikipedia is not a good news source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Goodbye, Au Revoir, Da Svida, Auf Wiedersehen
    2010-08-02 5:52 PM PDT
    Xfire has been sold by MTV / Viacom to Titan Gaming, a startup. The vast majority of the remaining staff has been laid off.

    There is no official press release at this time.

    As a Web Developer who has been with this company full-time for 4+ years, I'm sad to have to pack up all of the posters from my office walls, though MTV has been trying to sell us for some time now.

    I received about 800 messages in the minutes after the system broadcast went out. If I don't respond to your messages, please understand that it's nothing personal.

    The Xfire service itself, as far as I know, will continue. A million people a day log into the Xfire client and FOUR million unique visitors use the website each week. No one in their right mind, in this author's humble opinion, would walk away from that kind of userbase by terminating the program.

    Thank you all for your support!

    I have always believed in Xfire, and our community of users has played a big part in that. Together, we made Gaming History.

    source

    1. Re:wikipedia is not a good news source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Blog now appears to be deleted, but front page states

      Titan Gaming acquires Xfire.

      Titan will be taking on the Xfire name, with a focus towards ongoing innovation in the gaming space. The Xfire services will continue uninterrupted for its users. Xfire redefined how gamers communicate, Titan intends to build upon this tradition and utilize the Xfire platform to help gaming companies better engage their users. We look forward to continuing and expanding upon the Xfire service.

      source

  24. Buyer is actually Titan Gaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Wikipedia: about as reliable as TMZ

    http://techcrunch.com/2010/08/02/exclusive-titan-gaming-takes-xfire-off-viacoms-hands/

    "We’ve just confirmed with Titan Gaming CEO John Maffei that they have acquired Xfire – the deal was signed just a couple of hours ago – but have not been able to pin down the exact purchase price. Here’s a brief statement from Titan:

            Titan Gaming has purchased Xfire. The terms of the purchase are undisclosed. Titan will be taking on the Xfire name. The Xfire services will continue uninterrupted for its users. Xfire redefined how gamers communicate, Titan intends to build upon this tradition and utilize the Xfire platform to help gaming companies better engage and monetize their games"

    1. Re:Buyer is actually Titan Gaming by xded · · Score: 1

      Correct.

      From TFS:

      August 2, 2010--Titan Gaming acquires Xfire.
      Titan will be taking on the Xfire name, with a focus towards ongoing innovation in the gaming space. The Xfire services will continue uninterrupted for its users. Xfire redefined how gamers communicate, Titan intends to build upon this tradition and utilize the Xfire platform to help gaming companies better engage their users. We look forward to continuing and expanding upon the Xfire service.

  25. Xfire = MTV by Bootes · · Score: 1

    Xfire has been owned by MTV for a long time. http://www.xfire.com/cms/xf_acquisition/ I can't think of anyone else that I would consider worse.

  26. Oh boy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, it seems that Techcrunch has the skinny on who really bought the thing. It appears to be Titan Gaming

  27. Massive quit by dargaud · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just a general question, does it ever happen that the employees of a company all quit after said company changes owners? Then the company is suddenly worthless if it's based on intellectual stuff like software, right? So is the law OK with it or can the new owners sue or whatever ?

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    1. Re:Massive quit by totally+bogus+dude · · Score: 2, Informative

      I imagine this would be part of the buyout proposal if it matters to the purchasing company. You'd have to notify every employee and have them agree to terms of employment with the new owner (which may just be the same terms, but not necessarily). I mean, you can't force people to work at a certain place, so you'd have to new contracts set up to retain the employees. Of course that means you have to spend longer in negotiations with more people knowing details of the deal, which increases the likelihood of leaks.

      The IP isn't necessarily worthless if everyone leaves though. Generally all rights to the software developed by the employees of a company are owned by the company, so the buyer would get those. They would of course lose the knowledge from the people who wrote it/worked on it; but depending on how many leave and how complex the software is (and what kind of state the codebase is in), it's quite feasible to have others take over. Especially if you already have programmers etc. in a related field.

      Again, all this stuff should be spelled out in the buyout proposal, including whether the buying company actually gets rights to the source code or just the trademarks, etc. Maybe not initially, but during the negotiations certainly. You're not going to buy another company without all the details pertaining to exactly what you're getting being agreed to in writing. Unless you're an idiot, of course. Although sometimes you might just be killing of a competitor, so loss of knowledge etc. isn't a problem -- you don't plan to do anything with it anyway, except bury it.

    2. Re:Massive quit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Technically, yes. It's not unheard off for small family-owned businesses to sell out to competitors as a form of retirement. Basically they're selling of their customer base, existing contracts, supplies, etcetera. This might even happen to law firms, so your "intellectual stuff" label might still apply.

      In more serious takeovers, the top management will sign agreements to stay on for several years, and key personnel might receive similar incentives. The banking world is (in)famous for this, with guaranteed bonuses. But other personnel can certainly quit. New owners might have a reason when those employees had non-competition clauses yet move on to competing companies. Takeovers do not automatically break such clauses (however, this is one of the things that can be negotiated when potential employers propose a non-competition clause)

    3. Re:Massive quit by moro_666 · · Score: 1

      ' So is the law OK with it or can the new owners sue or whatever ?'

      sue whom ? it's their own failure in the purchase process if they failed to set up sufficient benefits for the existing employees. suing one self is not that profitable.

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    4. Re:Massive quit by PegLegPete · · Score: 1

      It would be silly to quit.

      Laid-off = good chance of a receiving severance package, i.e. paid unemployment for 1-6 months, which you can combine with government unemployment

      Quit = 24 hours of high emotion, followed by the realization you have no income

      Also, if it were me, I would be pissed they laid me off, but I wouldn't want to sabotage the product I helped create over many years, regardless of who now owned it. Considering the previous owner, it could not have been much of a surprise in the first place.

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  28. This needs to stop. by Jaruzel · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I don't need to see this right at the top of the comments [1]. I thought slashdot released stories earlier to logged in users or subscribers? If so, then how are ACs getting first comment?

    -Jar

    [1] Yes I know I can change my comment browsing level, but I shouldn't have to. Besides, thanks to the useless mods on /. there's a lot of good stuff modded down into the minuses.

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    1. Re:This needs to stop. by nospam007 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Subscribers post their frosty piss also as AC.

    2. Re:This needs to stop. by Inda · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      They can't comment before the rest of us, only read.

      And yes, you should have to browse above +1. It's why it's there.

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    3. Re:This needs to stop. by gorzek · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I have Troll posts automatically bumped to 5 so they're always visible to me. You never know what sorts of strange things are lurking in -1 territory.

      But, yeah, it's usually just a puddle of frosty piss.

  29. Re:Why bother with seperate widgets? by roman_mir · · Score: 1

    sure I do, it's a framework that allows quick generation of web-service servers/clients.

  30. With jews you lose. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Viacom destroyed MTV, then they destroyed Blizzard.

    God I love the Synagogue of Satan and it's work to squeaze tears out of boys and girls that never grew-up

    1. Re:With jews you lose. by ShadowDragoonFTW · · Score: 1

      Um... Blizzard is still doing great. What are you smoking? And why would you think Viacom has anything to do with Blizzard? I don't think Viacom owns Activision, and it's Activision that bought Blizzard...

    2. Re:With jews you lose. by AltairDusk · · Score: 1

      I think you have your companies mixed up unless you know something about Viacom the rest of the world doesn't, they're one of Activision's competitors (Activision owns the Guitar Hero franchise and Viacom acquired Harmonix, makers of Rock Band). Activision Blizzard was formed when Activision and the Vivendi Games group (of which Blizzard was a part) merged.

      Beyond that after playing Starcraft II, hearing that Blizzard was destroyed is certainly news to me.

  31. SOLD TO TITANGAMING by djdevon3 · · Score: 1

    Titan Gaming Buys XFIRE
    It says right on their website they bought XFIRE.

  32. Re:Why bother with seperate widgets? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Call of Duty 1 asked you if you wanted to install xfire at the end of the installer.