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Vodafone Backs Down In Row With Android Users
jhernik writes with this excerpt from eWEEK Europe: "Vodafone has backed down in the face of angry opposition from Google Android customers, who last week received a software update thinking it contained Android 2.2, but instead found it contained Vodafone's branded 360 service. The Vodafone 360 service was launched in October last year. Essentially, Vodafone 360 is a user interface that puts social networking on the front screen of the phone, and arranges the users' contacts so you can reach any person with a phone call, IM, text or other call — or send a location message to meet up. However it also installs irremovable Vodafone-branded apps and bookmarks, including links to dating sites."
...lead to more usage of data sites with the SO picks it up and goes "Honey, why is Match.com on your phone?"
Whoever thought of this was a total idiot.
Yet another company that should pay me to be their CEO of common sense.
Most companys need someone like that to help them NOT do things that piss off all their customers. Yet no company has one it seems.
Just in case you're wondering like me how they back down ...
FTFA:
Following the complaints, Vodafone backed down and said it would now offer an update without the Vodafone-branded applications.
“Instead, in future we will offer customers two updates. The first will be a rollout of vanilla Android 2.2, once we have carried out appropriate testing to make sure it doesn’t cause any problems on our network or handsets.”
NB: The message above might reflect my opinion right now, but not necessarily tomorrow or next year.
This shows once again that the little bit of a subsidy the network gives is never worth it.
Remember lads this is in the UK where all networks offer good SIM-only plans and prepaid doesn't suck ass like it does in the States.
That's as well written as a Harry Potter slash fic.
If they're going to dictate mandatory apps and screen layout, that seems like it's moving away from a true smartphone and towards the realm of featurephone.
I can definitely see having some predefined layouts handy for new smartphone users who don't really know what to do next, but it seems to me that one of the biggest advantages of a smartphone is the ability to customize it for your own arbitrary uses, adding your own layout and apps. If wireless companies are going to start dictating layout and apps, that seems like a step backwards. These phones are going to keep getting more capable with every passing month, new hardware design, and OS release, and if anything the market for featurephones would seem like it ought to be shrinking (since a smartphone can completely replace a featurephone). At some point, it'll be easier to sell a smartphone with a predefined featurephone-like template for users who would prefer that - instead of developing separate featurephones.
Is it possible that someone at Vodafone simply doesn't quite understand this? I couldn't quite put my finger on what problem Vodafone 360 was designed to solve...
I'm on Three, and anyone who wasn't previously on their "Xseries" service*, and isn't willing to pay £5/month for that service, is subjected to a content block. The content block redirects objectionable sites like B3ta to Three's PPV porn portal. It's like a protection racket: "pay us £5 per month, or you might find yourself looking at porn instead of the site you wanted to go to".
*Long story involving their move from a walled garden internet service
No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
By the sounds of it, they haven't actually given the option to roll back to Vanilla 2.1, they just said, in fututre, the 2.2 will be available vanilla. Maybe they are expecting people to warm up to the "features" prior to the update?
Cool story, bro.
Vodafone don't care about firmware upgrades unless they can control the content.
I have an N900, admittedly a niche product, and they just stalled and stalled about putting newer firmware on it. I think they are currently 2 or 3 versions behind the latest, and they are unlikely to produce a newer version since they dropped the phone from their line up. They probably dropped it because they can't control it.
They intentionally make vague threats about installing vanilla firmware and losing your warranty. They refuse to clarify their position on the matter.
The only reason iPhone users get their upgrades on Vodafone is because Apple dictates what software goes on it through their contract.
Reading the last paragraph I realized what this is actually about. You are one of these guys that usually posts about/for GNAA here, right.
I keep telling this story **about** Vodafone, which cost me a **considerable** amount of money; and, they know it.
Quite a few years ago, not long after Vodafone arrived in Australia, I was sold a mobile plan with Vodafone using an existing handset. I inserted the Vodafone SIM, and the phone would not work. **I had not yet made one call!** The company's designated repairer agreed to have the phone "unlocked" and, weeks later, it was returned to me supposedly fixed.
I tested the phone in the store: The phone still did not work with Vodafone's SIM, but seemed to work with my old carrier's SIM. I gave it back to their designated repairer on the spot.
Weeks later the handset was returned to me and I was told that the phone was affected by water, and would cost over $1000 to fix; much more than the handset was worth, or could be replaced, even back then.
I pestered Vodafone for over a year, when they bothered to call to try to get me to pay their mounting monthly bills which I refused to pay. at the risk of repetition... **I had not yet made one call! (on Vodafone)**
My premise was that I would happily talk to their people, for hours in some cases, until I had used up the cost **of their time** that they had ascribed to my "bricked" phone (that Vodafone had "bricked".) And, I alays told them what I was doing; that I was using a headset with the phone when they rang me at work, and I was actually productive while they were not!
I regularly suggested that they buy me a new handset, which I would use with my existing Vodafone SIM. They refused. I would have used it, too! (Meanwhile, we had another handset with another company.)
Eventually, a senior manager from Vodafone who called me worked out -- in the midst of a long conversation -- that I really meant what I was saying, and "wiped" my bill. However, my parting shot to him was to say what I had said to his other people; that I would continue to tell this story ABOUT (and never 'against') Vodafone. After all, I do not want to get into any legal trouble by bad-mouthing such a prosperous company.
So, I just have told my story, again!
You decide.
Peter
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And here I thought everyone bought Android phones because they liked openness.
Dude, when one sits at home on the weekend, writing fiction (with utterly shite grammar btw) involving the iPhone, beating women and rape, one knows that it's time to get some help, get out of that basement and get a life.
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That's the other problem. I bought my unlocked phone, bought a T-Mo prepay plan and SIM. But T-Mo assured me there is no way I can get any data plan with that prepay.
As a "CLIQ with MOTOBLUR" victim, I also have a bunch of non-removable shovelware on this thing - plus Motorola appears to have removed certain basic functionality from the stock Android.
And don't get me started on their indefinitely delaying the long-promised update out of the Android 1.5 pit in order to "optimize the user experience in some key areas".
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Just another instance of mobile phone companies (mostly service providers) thinking they know what their customers want.
I got a HTC Hero on the meteor network in ireland for a subsidised price when it came out, and thank god the phone came with the standard Android 1.5 firmware with HTC sense, there was not one bit of meteor branding or any other bloatware and junk on it, they rolled out the 2.1 update and again the standard firmware with no branding what so ever, this is the way it should be done. Give you the phone you want e.g Android smartphone, with no branding bloatware or geneal other junk on it and let you do what you want with it. I left vodafone about 2 years ago and Im delighted to have cause they are one of if not the worst network in ireland at least anyway.
I don't have to deal with Vodafone, but I get so much ridiculous crap from AT&T I've started to wonder how long before *customers* have to form unions to protect themselves from this sort of garbage. One person threatening to take their business elsewhere gets no notice, but if you could organize and get thousands of customers willing to "strike" together, maybe we could actaully have telcos that don't act like they're monopolies. I think a little bit of collective bargaining could really help us out on the monthly fees department too.
Boost prepaid has data for 35 cents a day, either with their iden network phones, or cdma. They have cheap and dumb phones all the way to expensive smartphones. No long term contract required. Same as the more expensive guys, reasonable use up to five gigs a month, although advertised as unlimited. I am not aware of anyone kicked off yet for going over that, but it might have happened.
I have always hated the crap Vodaphone installs on phones. 1) the bullsh*t is always unstable
2) it lags the official latest firmware
3) The default crap can not be removed
I hate them and their stupid firmware versions
I'm amazed Verizon backed out. As far as I know, their BlackBerry users are still stuck with only having Bing in their browsers' quick search bars. (and an irremovable bing app/icon that they can only hide from their main screens to get rid of it)