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7 Scientific Reasons a Zombie Outbreak Would Fail

Whether they spoil in the heat, freeze in the winter, or get taken out by a human-friendly venue of vultures, a zombie outbreak is unlikely to succeed. Here's 7 reasons why we should stop worrying about the shambling dead and start concentrating on a real threat: sparkly vampires.

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  1. Reason #0 by BSAtHome · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There are no zombies?

    1. Re:Reason #0 by lgw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But there is a huge market for all things zombie, and it doesn't even seem to have peaked yet. Zombies are the new vampires, and to date none of them sparkle in the sun.

      Most of the zombie fiction is just a different approach to RPG-style problem solving, and has the same appeal. A zombie outbreak happens near you, and the zombies work this way. What do you do? What do you eat? How do you defend yourself? Do you find others, or avoid others? etc, etc. It's good fun.

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    2. Re:Reason #0 by pgmrdlm · · Score: 4, Informative

      There are no zombies?

      Constructing the Haitian Zombie: An Anthropological Study Beyond Madness

      Persons identified as zombies are to be found among the inhabitants of Haiti, an impoverished and politically unstable Caribbean country with unique cultural characteristics. Using the lens of the anthropologist, an investigation into Haitian zombiism reveals not only a basis for the bizarre phenomenon of zombiism itself, but also the underlying characteristics of Haitian society that have fostered and it. While zombiism may be fundamentally understood in terms of mental illness, particular theories related to madness are useful in further illuminating the subject, including Sigmund Freud’s signature theses on melancholia, Frantz Fanon’s views on the psychological effects of colonialism, and Emily Martin’s ideas about the performance of mental disorders. The resulting analysis will demonstrate that Haitian zombiism constitutes a cultural construct of madness that thoroughly fits within its post-colonial population, where a bereft people have transformed zombiism into a reality.

      PASSAGE OF DARKNESS: THE ETHNOBIOLOGY OF THE HAITIAN ZOMBIE

      Are there really zombies in Haiti? Wade Davis devotes two long sections to this question. He first looks at the popular views and then explores cases where there have been some attempts to carefully and more scientifically determine the status of suspected cases. His key candidate for zombiehood is Clairvius Narcisse. In spring, 1962 Narcisse "died" at the Albert Schweitzer Hospital in Deschapelles, Haiti. His death was verified by the hospital staff. 18 years later Narcisse turned up alive and well, and claimed to be an escaped zombie.

      No, I did not read through those articles. I just remember watching an interview with some scientist that researched out the sposid myth. So I knew therw was legitimate research into it.

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    3. Re:Reason #0 by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 5, Funny

      Keep telling yourself that. You'll be sorry one day when you don't run, and a zombie eats your face.

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    4. Re:Reason #0 by w0mprat · · Score: 4, Informative
      It's a called a Zimboe.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimboe

      Real-life zombies are probably more subtle

      In fact most all of the world has been replaced with Zimboes, and there are very few of us real people left, examples being myself, and Cory Doctorow.

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    5. Re:Reason #0 by Dahamma · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually, my neurobiology professor (who has a definite knack for explaining complex ideas in everyday language) gives a great lecture on Haitian zombies from a neurobiological and athropological perspective.

      Basically, some Haitian (or more commonly, a bunch of Haitians) gets really pissed off at a person, and hires a witch doctor to "curse" them. The curse turns out to be slipping them some tetrodotoxin (better known in popular culture as "the thing in blowfish/fugu that paralyzes you"), which then... paralyzes them to a state in which they can be mistaken for dead.

      Most probably die. It's a pretty good poison. But once in a while one of them, after being taken for dead for up to a couple days, actually "comes back to life". This of course freaks everyone out (and gives the witch doctor some major cred). And now this person was officially cursed by the witch doctor, and came back from the dead. He's a zombie! Everyone in town is now both disgusted and somewhat frightened of him, and he starts to believe the stories (and conform to the stereotypes/myths). A zombie is born!

    6. Re:Reason #0 by Miseph · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Vampires are ancient, evil, debauched, blood drinking, monsters who turn to ash in the sun.

      Fairies are youthful, amoral (note the difference), sparkly, supernatural beings who turn children away from their families and gain strength from human emotions.

      Twilight is about fairies. Really lame fairies.

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    7. Re:Reason #0 by fractoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The problem with any of these "disaster A can't happen" is they always assume humans will band together and act logically which if anything history has taught us in a widespread panic humans are as dangerous and stupid as any other scared animal. To quote MiB "A person is smart, people are dumb, dangerous, panicky animals and you know it.

      You know, I love that quote as much as anyone but I'm not convinced it's true. Think of the times when people really HAVE been up against the wall in large numbers, with a cause they believe in, and I think you'll find that in general, we're pretty good in a pinch. Take, for example, the British in WW2. They're having the absolute shit bombed out of them but they stayed organized for the most part and put up a hell of a fight.

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    8. Re:Reason #0 by golden+age+villain · · Score: 4, Funny

      Most of the zombie fiction is just a different approach to RPG-style problem solving

      Do you mean RPG-style like in ruchnoy protivotankoviy granatomyot or RPG-7? It's a good option but you can't really run while carrying it.

    9. Re:Reason #0 by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But you are missing the fact that they had Churchill to lead them by example and to rally the troops, whereas in a zombie or other mass disease attack most likely the leaders would run for it like everyone else. We simply don't create leaders like Patton and Churchill anymore, instead we get politicians who will save their own ass first and foremost. Can you really picture Obama (or Palin or your choice of politician) standing there to rally folks with the risk of contagion like Churchill was willing to walk through bombed areas with the threat of further bombing looming?

      Then of course you have the religious aspect, which would REALLY bite us in the ass. If you remember Dawn of the Dead those that believed in the judgment actively helped the zombies believing that the walking monsters were really their dead relatives being risen by their God. In large cities this would create a quickly escalating situation, where just like in the movies believers would attempt to "care" for their dead relatives, getting infected themselves, and by doing so creating "nests" where whole buildings would become infected.

      In the end it would come down to whether or not we have any leaders that are willing to risk their own asses and make the hard choices on the spot. Sadly what we have now is a spoilt ruling class used to be coddled and treated like little kings that would probably abandon us at the first sign of danger to themselves. The days of leaders like Churchill that were willing to risk their lives for their people are long past I'm afraid.

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  2. Re:This! by DarkKnightRadick · · Score: 4, Informative
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  3. #7. They Have Too Many Natural Predators by Ocyris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Come on now. Everyone know if you eat zombie flesh you become a zombie. Before you know it we'll be up to our necks in zombie lion, zombie tiger and zombie bears. However, zombie birds will probably be the worst considering the distances they can cover.

    1. Re:#7. They Have Too Many Natural Predators by jadin · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh my!

  4. So tired by LordKaT · · Score: 3, Informative

    So, so tired of zombies, pirates, ninjas, and robots. Jesus, Internet, can you please latch on to something else? Anything? I know whatever it is you latch on to will still get annoying, with 18 year old girls running around pretending to be cute and funny, but just being fucking annoying, but for the love of god, let the Zombie bullshit die.

    1. Re:So tired by sthomas · · Score: 5, Funny

      If they let it die, it might rise again. Like. a. zombie. OMG!!!!!

    2. Re:So tired by mhajicek · · Score: 3, Funny

      Zombie Strippers are okay though.

  5. Re:One Reason Why by dlawson · · Score: 5, Funny

    You wouldn't be saying that if you'd met some of my managers.

    Brain dead - check; stumbling through life - check; rampant desire to eat people's brains (or simply recruit them to their own viewpoint) - check.

    QED.
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  6. Re:This! by blair1q · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, that article is the reason cracked.com exists.

    This response is the reason idle.slashdot.org exists.

    7. Natural predators can become zombies, too. Then where will your living natural predators be, hmm?

    6. Zombies rose from the dead, some years-dead. Making them deader by drying them out isn't going to affect them.

    6. Zombies rose from the dead. Dead is even more inert than frozen. Therefore, frozen isn't going to faze them.

    5. Biting works for rattlesnakes, black widow spiders, rabid dogs, and yucky girls with cooties. Zombies are onto a business model here.

    3. It's not like we're picking a Zombie President early in the cycle. There are zillions of them. Damage to one leaves another undamaged. You can't beat them in reasonable time with iterative solutions.

    2. You can run. You can hide. But death comes to us all. And then you'll be the zombie in the place behind the incorrectly designated zombie-proof barrier.

    1. Unless you plan to make bullets out of zombie finger bones, you're going to run out of bullets before you run out of zombies. Zillions, man. Zillions.

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  7. This doesn't seem very scientific... by pedantic+bore · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This person is claiming that zombie outbreaks will fail, but where is the evidence? Has there ever been a zombie outbreak that has actually failed for any of these reasons?

    It all seems like blind optimism to me.

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  8. Reason #8 by PPH · · Score: 4, Funny

    Zombies feed on brains. Thanks to our fine educational system, we'll starve them out.

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  9. Re:First Page Link by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Funny

    You actually read the f'ing article?

    I'd ask if you're new here, but judging from your user ID, you actually are.

    At least you're grumbling about the editors so I think you'll fit in okay here.

  10. Stephenie Meyer is a talentless hack by TiggertheMad · · Score: 4, Funny

    Zombies are the new vampires, and to date none of them sparkle in the sun.

    Want to know why zombies are so cool? Because Hollywood will never be able to get 14 year old girls interested in crappy zombie romance/emo books and movies....

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    1. Re:Stephenie Meyer is a talentless hack by Emerssso · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's what you think. Just wait until I finalize the deal with my publisher and my first novel hits the market. It features Zack the Zombie and his star-crossed love affair with teenaged Sarah, a clumsy yet lovable girl I'm sure young women across the country will fall in love with.

    2. Re:Stephenie Meyer is a talentless hack by Zerth · · Score: 3, Informative

      They made a comedy like that, back in the 90's: My Boyfriend's Back A couple other low-budget ones I can't remember from the 80's, too.

      Can't remember any serious/emo ones, though.

    3. Re:Stephenie Meyer is a talentless hack by Abstrackt · · Score: 4, Funny

      Zombies are the new vampires, and to date none of them sparkle in the sun. Want to know why zombies are so cool? Because Hollywood will never be able to get 14 year old girls interested in crappy zombie romance/emo books and movies....

      It's true. My lack of hygiene, tattered clothes and strange grunting noises prevent any 14 year old girls from taking an interest in me.

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    4. Re:Stephenie Meyer is a talentless hack by ubrgeek · · Score: 4, Funny

      Been done. Check out Breathers: A Zombie's Lament in which the main character is, "a newly risen zombie, he's forced to live in his parents' basement, attend Undead Anonymous meetings just to get out of the house, and endure abuse of all kinds from the living." A fun read.

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  11. "Ancient" as in... 19'th century? by Moraelin · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, while humanity had a ton of imagination when it comes to fearing death, nothing even came close to the modern idea of vampire.

    What Europe believed in is better described as "revenants", or what we nowadays think of as "zombies." They weren't supposed to be some clever and scheming count, but mindless bloated corpses of some peasants.

    Oh, and generally they'd transmit disease generally by just being there not by bit. Remember it was an era where even an educated medicus knew that diseases are transmitted by smells (no, really, the miasma theory of disease) and everyone else knew that corpses cause disease. A corpse walking around was a health hazard by itself.

    And just to drive the "zombie" aspect home, most of these were supposed to be literally brain dead. E.g., the ones from an outbreak in Venice could be prevented from biting anything ever again by just shoving a brick in the corpse's mouth. Your average Dracula or White Wolf kinda vampire would be sentient enough to basically go "oh, i have a brick in my mouth" and spit it out. Heck, even the dumbest animal would. But the version those people believed in would be forever thwarted by that brick because they weren't even able to figure that out.

    Other forms of thwarting an undead included the equivalent of the frat prank of tying someone's shoelaces together, except it was more like tying the ends a piece of string to the big toe on each foot. Yep, that would thwart them.

    Even when myths gave them a couple of neurons still working, then they'd be riddled with a crippling OCD, so they'd irresistably stop and count the grains in a pile of rice or whatever.

    Basically they're not quite the smart and scheming baron kind, nor the kind who'd blend in and maintain a Masquerade. They were mindless rotting corpses.

    The modern idea of a Vampire was pretty much used invented by Polidori in "The Vampyre", sort of reused in "Carmilla" (where it got some sexual part added too), but only really became mass known via "Dracula". It's really not about any single "ancient" myth, but a mix of several of those. Including a lot of the witchcraft beliefs, incubus beliefs, and various assorted other bits and ends. And yes, some stuff taken from fairies too.

    Basically what Polidori, Le Fanu and Stoker did there was already inventing a new kind of vampire and romanticizing it to appeal to their target audience. That was it, really. And each of them felt free to add a few personal touches and mix some even more unrelated mythical monsters to the definition of a Vampire, to make it even more mass-appeal. Which is basically why you've heard of Dracula over and over again, but most people never even heard of Carmilla or The Vampyre.

    Complaining that someone else did the same thing is a bit silly. Yes, Twilight included some stuff from an unrelated mythical beastie. What, unlike Stoker, Anne Rice, White Wolf and everyone else... who added bits from unrelated mythical beasties too?

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