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Thieves Use Vacuum To Siphon Cash From Safes

Tootech writes "A gang of thieves armed with a powerful vacuum cleaner that sucks cash from supermarket safes has struck for the fifteenth time in France. The burglars broke into their latest store near Paris and drilled a hole in the pneumatic tube that siphons money from the checkout to the strong-room. They then sucked rolls of cash totaling £60,000 from the safe without even having to break its lock. Police said the gang — dubbed the Vacuum Burglars — always raid Monoprix supermarkets and have hit 15 of the stores branches around Paris in the past four years. A spokesman added: 'They spotted a weakness in the company's security system and have been exploiting it ever since.'"

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  1. You can make this stuff up. by suso · · Score: 3, Informative

    Sounds like someone has been watching "How To Beat The High Co$t Of Living". Anyone remember that movie? Similar plot, only it was a big bubble holding $1 million in cash in the middle of a shopping mall.

    1. Re:You can make this stuff up. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's it. We should ban vacuums.

    2. Re:You can make this stuff up. by mapkinase · · Score: 3, Informative

      Search google news for robbers paris vacuum and the only story you will find is from this The Sun tabloid.

      I smell hoax

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    3. Re:You can make this stuff up. by Rhaban · · Score: 3, Insightful

      try searching cambrioleurs aspirateur monoprix.

    4. Re:You can make this stuff up. by cmiller173 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wouldn't a government required registration of vacuums be sufficient?

    5. Re:You can make this stuff up. by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It goes back even more, to the 1960s or 1970s, in the "Casino" episode of Mission: Impossible (the real one, the good one, not that crap with the self-aggrandizing Tom Cruise). They drilled into a vault and ran a vacuum to suck out all the money.

    6. Re:You can make this stuff up. by somersault · · Score: 2, Informative

      Two? There are over 4000 results for that search string, and the first page is all French news sites (apart from Slashdot, of course) covering this story..

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    7. Re:You can make this stuff up. by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 2, Informative

      Try searching just for aspirateur monoprix (i.e. without cambrioleurs). Plenty of hits, some even with pictures, and all of them about the gang (... and none about the vacuum cleaners that monoprix might be selling...)

    8. Re:You can make this stuff up. by mapkinase · · Score: 2, Informative

      Apparently, we are looking at different searches:

      http://www.google.com/search?q=cambrioleurs+aspirateur+monoprix&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#q=cambrioleurs+aspirateur+monoprix&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=gdU&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=iv&source=lnms&tbs=nws:1&ei=ZbWcTJKPLITGlQeY2PGXCg&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&ved=0CAoQ_AU&prmdo=1&fp=4e781b66e30e329a

      Gives at my screen:

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      Conte d'automne : les 2 Brigands et l'Aspirateur magique

      Documentissime.fr (Blog) - 1 day ago
      Vol à l'aspirateur lundi 20 septembre au Monoprix de Saint-Ouen. Les deux complices ont emporté 70 000 euros. Les cambrioleurs utilisent le même mode ...
      Seine-Saint-Denis. Ils vident les coffres avec un aspirateur - LaDépêche.fr
      Le gang à l'aspirateur dévalise les Monoprix - Le Parisien
      Seine-Saint-Denis un braquage avec un aspirateur - Sur Le Feu
      Le Monde - 20minutes.fr
      all 24 news articles
      Ouest-France
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      Les beaux faits-divers de la presse française

      France24 - 2 days ago
      Le gang des aspirateurs qui a encore frappé, ou encore L'Homme qui se prétend père d'une ... Leur cible particulière, les magasins de l'enseigne Monoprix. ...

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    9. Re:You can make this stuff up. by Abstrackt · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's it. We should ban vacuums.

      That idea sucks.

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    10. Re:You can make this stuff up. by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Funny

      No..

      declare only terrorists own vacuums..

      Then point out to the moron senators that space is full of vacuum and we should declare war on it.

      Suddenly NASA has all the money it needs.

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    11. Re:You can make this stuff up. by CraftyJack · · Score: 2, Funny

      That idea sucks.

      Watch the language...let's keep it clean.

    12. Re:You can make this stuff up. by jpyeck · · Score: 3, Funny

      I've already seen the bumper sticker for that: "Mean People Suck"

  2. Noise by Thelasko · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wouldn't a vacuum cleaner that size be really loud?

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    1. Re:Noise by MBGMorden · · Score: 3, Insightful

      With proper baffling you can quiet down just about anything. Also depends on the area. In many cities there's pretty much constant road-work being done. If they could possibly park it beside the street I'd bet almost everyone would just assume it was construction equipment and wouldn't even question it.

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    2. Re:Noise by Abcd1234 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Plus, you really can't underestimate the ability of people to ignore things that don't immediately concern them.

    3. Re:Noise by i.r.id10t · · Score: 3, Funny

      The famous "Somebody else's problem" field

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    4. Re:Noise by clone53421 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Or the ability of people to assume that weird activity is normal because the guy was wearing overalls and a cap and looked like a maintenance worker.

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    5. Re:Noise by kevinNCSU · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, but unfortunately dogs can't call the police and since they are the only animal which believes the operation of a vacuum cleaner is a sinister act worth alerting authorities for the thieves plan is pretty foolproof.

  3. Duckburg by Sonny+Yatsen · · Score: 5, Funny

    Did anyone else picture the Beagle Boys doing this when you read the article?

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  4. Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    That sucks.

  5. Re:well, that blows by FuckingNickName · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What sucks enough must blow.

  6. time ot sue vacuum makers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    after all like software that does p2p its the cause of them being able to steal cash....we need to regulate and make sure you have controls for the vacuums

  7. Re:Similar to Mission Impossible by bsDaemon · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well, nothing sucks like a VAX...

  8. 15 branches of the same store in Paris? by macwhizkid · · Score: 2, Funny

    Are they living in a vacuum? How many times do you have to get suckered before you change your system? Their business must really be going down the tubes. It blows me away.

    (I'm just cleaning up today... :)

    1. Re:15 branches of the same store in Paris? by cmiller173 · · Score: 3, Funny

      So your saying the store simply surrendered?

  9. HADOPI by srussia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's 15 times already that they've connected to the intertubes to illegally download stuff. HADOPI should have sent out 5 cut-off orders already. Oh wait, they are actually stealing real stuff? Carry on then.

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  10. Re:beautifully done :) by TheLink · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Perhaps it isn't hurting the supermarket enough.

    The thieves have taken 4 years to suck up 500000 euros. That's 125000 per year.

    Monoprix have more than 300 stores. If it costs more than 500 euros per store per year to install, maintain and support the extra security measures, it'll cost them more than the thieves are taking.

    Monoprix might just be hoping that the police would eventually catch the thieves, and nobody else will copy them.

    Will be a different thing if they shot or hurt people (since customers might stop going to their stores).

    Lastly if the team has 3 members, assuming equal shares, each is only getting an average of about 40K per year. Not peanuts but definitely not a good way to get rich :).

    In contrast, those infamous investment bankers and friends have certainly taken more than 40k/year each...

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  11. Re:Fool me once... by Kenoli · · Score: 2, Funny

    Fool me... 15 times... :(

  12. This isn't new by Nuskrad · · Score: 4, Informative

    Thieves have attempted this approach for as long as this type of cash delivery system has existed, and consequently there are numerous security measures to prevent it. The ceiling space that contains the tubes is usually protected by motion sensors, the cash delivery system usually has some form of intrusion countermeasure that would detect a change in pressure, and the most simple method is a timer system that detects whether the money is received in the strong room N seconds after it's sent by the cashier, triggering an alarm if not.

    It seems that for whatever reason this chain of stores hadn't implemented the basic security measures, or they were ineffective, probably due to human error (i.e. forgetting to set the alarm in the roofspace).

    1. Re:This isn't new by interval1066 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "It seems that for whatever reason this chain of stores hadn't implemented the basic security measures, or they were ineffective, probably due to human error (i.e. forgetting to set the alarm in the roofspace)."

      Forgetting to set the alarm on 15 different "Monoprix" (whatever that is) stores? No, there was a fundamental design flaw in the system. They didn't implement a basic security measure, ie; installing a simple, one-way baffle or hatch that would allow the money to enter the strong room but not leave it, at least through the pneumatic tube system, was all that would have been required. Good allegory on security in the digital age; your only as strong as your weakest point. Usually its the system architect. I wonder if Monoprix had had this cash delivery system peer reviewed if it would have still passed into general use.

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  13. Re:hold on your horses by thijsh · · Score: 2, Informative

    You are smart enough to use 'faux' to describe this news, but not to google on the French words: 'voleurs paris aspirateur'... For example the first link I found.

    Other than that: Nice try, It's good to check for faux news, but be sure not to make a faux pas youself. ;-)

  14. Re:beautifully done :) by RabidMonkey · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have worked for a large retail chain, and I can whole-heartedly confirm this logic. They have a chain of over 1000 stores, and some of the costing that was done blew your mind.

    Want to put a lock on the IT cabinet in each store? $100 per cabinet (buy the lock, pay the service guy to go in, train the store people to use the key/make duplicates). *1000 stores, and you're suddenly looking at a non-trivial amount of money for something that should be a simple, no brainer.

    We saw similar things when we wanted to put a shelf in each cabinet to help organize the various little device that went in the cabinet. $200 per store ... forget it. Print labels to put on each piece of equipment to help the store identify it? $50 per store. Forget it.

    It was a good experience ... we learned how to think in massive scale for every project, every little idea we had, but we also found it incredibly stifling. And thats why I *used* to work there.

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  15. Re:beautifully done :) by nametaken · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'd always imagined the trick there is to present your case in a, "It's $350 per store, one time, but it'll cost you $1000/yr, per store, in lost/broken equipment and wasted man hours if we don't".

  16. Re:beautifully done :) by wideBlueSkies · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't doubt your experience at all. I can see things going down that way, corporate culture and all being what it is.

    But I still don't get it.

    If a guy with a small store would have to expense similar tasks, (locks on cabinets, a labeling system, etc).. at his level of the economy. Why is the same a problem for a huge 1000+ store chain? I mean, they are that big because they are making money - right? And you'd think that the economy of scale would mae the installation of some of these things even cheaper proportionally than it would be for the small shop guy.

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  17. Re:beautifully done :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The scaling is not linear. As a company gets bigger they do make more money but not as much more as it costs to run things.

    That's a problem in general with all sorts of designs that need to scale. Once you get past a certain point you run into all sorts of organizational and operational issues that are difficult to solve.

    In other words, it's much harder to maintain a huge successful business than a small successful one. Think of it as a King of the Hill game.

  18. Re:beautifully done :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How do you cost out not having a lock on a cabinet or not having a extra shelf?

  19. Re:beautifully done :) by eth1 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Because at that scale, it's enough money to notice.

    When I worked at a small 10-employee company, the owner would always get really good coffee for the break room. Cost a few $ more, but wasn't a big deal.

    When I moved to a 20,000-employee company, the good coffee didn't last long, because $(peanuts * 20,000) is enough savings to be noticed (and increase the bonus of some executive, so he's not going to leave it on the table for the next guy).

  20. Re:beautifully done :) by jahudabudy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Risk assessment. The guy with one store only has one store. If someone steals his server, he is tits up till he replaces it. If someone steals one of the servers out of one of the 1000 stores, there are still 999 making money for the company.

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