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GoogleSharing, Now With No Trust Required

An anonymous reader writes "GoogleSharing, the popular Google anonymizing service created by well known privacy advocate and security researcher Moxie Marlinspike, has released a major new version today. The biggest change is leveraging Google's SSL search option to provide an anonymizing service which doesn't require you to trust either Google or GoogleSharing. This means that anyone who wishes to opt out of Google's data collection practices can now do so without having to trust the operator of the anonymizing service."

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  1. Re:No, not Really? by snowraver1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Let me refer you to the second sentence of the summary:

    "The biggest change is leveraging Google's SSL search option to provide an anonymizing service which doesn't require you to trust either Google or GoogleSharing."

    Kids today...

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  2. Re:Suddenly, it doesn't feel like '1984' anymore! by shoehornjob · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A great day for liberty!

    That is of course until someone in washington decides it's a security risk because terrorists could use it to plan their attacks. You know that will happen.

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  3. Re:Suddenly, it doesn't feel like '1984' anymore! by spazdor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The worst part is, they're right. As it turns out, the exact same kinds of privacy we want for the right reasons, the bad guys want for the wrong reasons.

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  4. Re:Suddenly, it doesn't feel like '1984' anymore! by h4rr4r · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I would think the same privacy they want for the right reasons you want for the right reasons. To be able to have privacy.

  5. Re:Not a Rhetorical Question by Chaonici · · Score: 5, Informative

    From GoogleSharing's FAQ:

    Why not use Anonymizer or any other anonymizing proxy service?

    General purpose anonymizing proxies are designed for something else.

          1. Most will mask your IP address, but not the identifying information in your HTTP headers. Google will still know who you are based on your Cookies, User Agent, etc...
          2. If the proxy does attempt to anonymize HTTP headers, they will do it by completely stripping cookies from your request. Google does not like this, and will tag you as a SPAM bot (how convient for them to do), which will force you to type in a CAPTCHA every time you issue a Google search, and will prevent you from issuing Maps requests at all.
          3. These types of proxies can be slow. It's not necessary to proxy all of your internet traffic if you're just trying to protect yourself from Google. Since GoogleSharing only proxies Google traffic, our bandwidth needs are much lower and thus our performance is much greater.

  6. Re:No, not Really? by interkin3tic · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let me refer you to the second sentence of the summary:

    Look old man, if it was important, it would be in the FIRST sentence because that's how we kids do it these days even if it means run on sentences and now I'll get off of your lawn.

  7. Re:Suddenly, it doesn't feel like '1984' anymore! by Afforess · · Score: 3, Informative

    Oh come on, it can't be that hard to match up spelling and search habits up with people, given enough data. In Google's case, they have lots. Lots and lots. Even if you use the proxy, you're going to visit an external machine sometime, at which case Google will have 2 key points of comparison, and Bam.

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  8. Re:No, not Really? by dakameleon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Bro, more than 140 characters? Gimmie a minute, I need to check like three other services.

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  9. Re:No, not Really? by vux984 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Let me refer you to the second sentence of the summary:

    "The biggest change is leveraging Google's SSL search option to provide an anonymizing service which doesn't require you to trust either Google or GoogleSharing."

    Wow.

    You are right. That says I don't have trust google or googlesharing. ... assuming I trust the entity that makes that claim.

    Oh. The entity making the claim that I don't need to trust GoogleSharing is GoogleSharing. Neat.

    So if I don't trust googlesharing, why would my distrust be satisfied by the fact that they claim I don't need to trust them? That makes about as much sense as a fly asking the spider if he can take a nap on the web... the spider said he wasn't hungry... I guess there's nothing to worry about. :facepalm

    Now, if you had instead referred me to the googlesharing FAQ:

    http://googlesharing.net/faq.html#faq6

    "If you're still worried, remember that the GoogleSharing addon and proxy code is publicly available. So it's possible for you to run a GoogleSharing proxy yourself, or to find someone who you do trust."

    That's at least a step in the right direction. I can inspect and run the software on a server I do trust.*

    And if I use the GoogleSharing servers, than I do still need to trust GoogleSharing to be running the software they claim to be running. I expect they are worthy of that trust but you still have to trust them unless you are running your own server after inspecting the source.*

    ** And you will need to find a bunch of people who trust YOU using your server for you to derive any privacy benefit from running your own server. Bit of a catch-22 there.

  10. Re:No, not Really? by nuckfuts · · Score: 3, Funny

    Welcome to Slashdot, where people are too lazy to read the summaries, never mind the articles, and restating a sentence from the summary gets modded +5 Informative.

  11. Re:Suddenly, it doesn't feel like '1984' anymore! by dynamo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We already decided as a nation, over 200 years ago. I'm not having a hard time walking the line between freedom and oppression, nor is anyone else who is not in a position to lose power if freedom wins. Ben Franklin was right.

  12. Re:Suddenly, it doesn't feel like '1984' anymore! by MyFirstNameIsPaul · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh, please. Just go wardriving with a vanilla install of ubuntu using a laptop you picked up on craigslist and a wifi card you found in a trash can and you're safe. As usual, these kinds of government activities only infringe on the innocent and do nothing to inhibit the criminals.

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  13. Re:Suddenly, it doesn't feel like '1984' anymore! by AHuxley · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yes its all about the plain text and your use of unique data eg a name on yahoo, facebook, MSN, an email ect.
    That will all get noted and linked back to a friend of a friend of a friend who has been flagged as a person of interest.
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:5jex52BhXYEJ:wikileaks.org/wiki/EU_social_network_spy_system_brief,_INDECT_Work_Package_4,_2009+INDECT+Work+Package+4&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk as
    http://wikileaks.org/wiki/EU_social_network_spy_system_brief,_INDECT_Work_Package_4,_2009 seems to be down. The NSA/GCHQ ect dont care where/how the text comes from, public/private/mirrored ect, just keep it in flowing in a usable form. Add in voice chat too :)

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  14. do you know how instant search works? by way2trivial · · Score: 3, Interesting

    they pass each keystroke in real time to the servers.

    go ahead, type carefully..

    they'll see each letter as typed and "fingerprint" you that way
    the typing speed and corrected mispellings even without you hitting 'search'

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  15. Re:No, not Really? by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    for that matter: Welcome to Slashdot, where people think scepticism is a good replacement for education and intelligence.

    It seems like half the commenter here may have at least RTFS, but simply don't know what SSL is.

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  16. Re:Why not just not have a Google account? by spazdor · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You do know what Google's business model is, right?

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  17. Re:Suddenly, it doesn't feel like '1984' anymore! by geminidomino · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh gods... as one of the three people on the internet that knows the difference between "lose" and "loose," they'll have no problem tracking me down!!!